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Ving_Rhames 05/17/19 3:12:04 PM #101:	because we care about human life...least until its born! --- the real Irving Rameses https://imgur.com/A7f6F9h <cite>Ving_Rhames posted [p:922025228] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote>because we care about human life...least until its born!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SavenForever 05/17/19 3:29:02 PM #102:	Sackgurl posted... the AL law was written by a woman /topic <cite>SavenForever posted [p:922025906] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sackgurl posted...</cite> <quote>the AL law was written by a woman</quote> /topic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
burritosatan 05/17/19 3:56:57 PM #103:	You realize you can fall into the obese category even, with minimal body fat, right? Ya and how much of the population do we really think are 5 foot 5 bodybuilders? Exactly --- Same sex marriage is not gay privilege, its equal rights. Privilege would be something like gay people not paying taxes. Like churches don't <cite>burritosatan posted [p:922027077] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote><quote>You realize you can fall into the obese category even, with minimal body fat, right?</quote> Ya and how much of the population do we really think are 5 foot 5 bodybuilders? Exactly</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryo_the_Inferno 05/17/19 4:39:31 PM #105:	_Rinku_ posted... Gobstoppers12 posted... _Rinku_ posted... I'm sorry you think abortion involves murdering a baby. It does. That is its sole purpose. Abortion does nothing other than end the life of a growing child inside its mother's womb. It kills a baby. It's not like gun ownership, where ~95% of people who own a gun have never shot/killed anything with it. 100% of abortions have been performed with the intention of purposely slaying a growing baby. It's not a baby. Your argument that a fetus isn't a baby is very flawed. baby (bb) n. pl. babies 1. a. A very young child; an infant. b. An unborn child; a fetus. c. The youngest member of a family or group. d. A very young animal. A fetus is literally a baby. Specifically it is one stage of development of a baby. Your own words defeat your argument. To clarify a few other terms: Abortion, often, isn't "murder", because murder is, specifically, the unlawful killing of another human without justification or valid excuse. Abortion is, however, always homocide, which is the killing of one human by another. --- 3DS FC: 3222-6077-2683 <cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted [p:922028759] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Gobstoppers12 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote>I'm sorry you think abortion involves murdering a baby.</quote> It does. That is its sole purpose. Abortion does nothing other than end the life of a growing child inside its mother's womb. It kills a baby. It's not like gun ownership, where ~95% of people who own a gun have never shot/killed anything with it. 100% of abortions have been performed with the intention of purposely slaying a growing baby.</quote> It's not a baby.</quote> Your argument that a fetus isn't a baby is very flawed. baby (bb) n. pl. babies 1. a. A very young child; an infant. b. An unborn child; a fetus. c. The youngest member of a family or group. d. A very young animal. A fetus is literally a baby. Specifically it is one stage of development of a baby. Your own words defeat your argument. To clarify a few other terms: Abortion, often, isn't "murder", because murder is, specifically, the unlawful killing of another human without justification or valid excuse. Abortion is, however, always homocide, which is the killing of one human by another.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Im_JustMe0129 05/17/19 4:40:37 PM #106:	Then liberal men on these boards shouldn't be advocating for abortion if this whole thing is a woman's choice anyway. See how a double-edged sword works? <cite>Im_JustMe0129 posted [p:922028807] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote>Then liberal men on these boards shouldn't be advocating for abortion if this whole thing is a woman's choice anyway. See how a double-edged sword works?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mecha Sonic 05/17/19 4:41:13 PM #107:	republicans arent good people --- https://imgur.com/iMNC6RU <cite>Mecha Sonic posted [p:922028827] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote>republicans arent good people</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eridania67814 05/17/19 4:51:56 PM #108:	Foppe posted... Perhaps women should vote in some more females into those kind of positions? This, I blame women because I am a woman and I see the impact my mom had on the people around me, the impact I have on my son, and the impact of many women in my life. A lot of them just defer to sad ass dudes because the patriarchy said so --- -- - <cite>eridania67814 posted [p:922029296] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote><cite>Foppe posted...</cite> <quote>Perhaps women should vote in some more females into those kind of positions?</quote> This, I blame women because I am a woman and I see the impact my mom had on the people around me, the impact I have on my son, and the impact of many women in my life. A lot of them just defer to sad ass dudes because the patriarchy said so</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 05/17/19 4:53:19 PM #109:	People should really listen to the woman who wrote the bill's BBC interview. She's a fucking moron. --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:922029353] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote>People should really listen to the woman who wrote the bill's BBC interview. She's a fucking moron.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Rinku_ 05/17/19 5:01:30 PM #110:	Ryo_the_Inferno posted... _Rinku_ posted... Gobstoppers12 posted... _Rinku_ posted... I'm sorry you think abortion involves murdering a baby. It does. That is its sole purpose. Abortion does nothing other than end the life of a growing child inside its mother's womb. It kills a baby. It's not like gun ownership, where ~95% of people who own a gun have never shot/killed anything with it. 100% of abortions have been performed with the intention of purposely slaying a growing baby. It's not a baby. Your argument that a fetus isn't a baby is very flawed. baby (bb) n. pl. babies 1. a. A very young child; an infant. b. An unborn child; a fetus. c. The youngest member of a family or group. d. A very young animal. A fetus is literally a baby. Specifically it is one stage of development of a baby. Your own words defeat your argument. To clarify a few other terms: Abortion, often, isn't "murder", because murder is, specifically, the unlawful killing of another human without justification or valid excuse. Abortion is, however, always homocide, which is the killing of one human by another. That's a lot of words. Here's a few: It's not a baby. Im_JustMe0129 posted... Then liberal men on these boards shouldn't be advocating for abortion if this whole thing is a woman's choice anyway. See how a double-edged sword works? It's called being an ally. Hard concept, I'm sure. Try talking to some women and you'll get it eventually. <cite>_Rinku_ posted [p:922029728] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Gobstoppers12 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote>I'm sorry you think abortion involves murdering a baby.</quote> It does. That is its sole purpose. Abortion does nothing other than end the life of a growing child inside its mother's womb. It kills a baby. It's not like gun ownership, where ~95% of people who own a gun have never shot/killed anything with it. 100% of abortions have been performed with the intention of purposely slaying a growing baby.</quote> It's not a baby.</quote> Your argument that a fetus isn't a baby is very flawed. baby (bb) n. pl. babies 1. a. A very young child; an infant. b. An unborn child; a fetus. c. The youngest member of a family or group. d. A very young animal. A fetus is literally a baby. Specifically it is one stage of development of a baby. Your own words defeat your argument. To clarify a few other terms: Abortion, often, isn't "murder", because murder is, specifically, the unlawful killing of another human without justification or valid excuse. Abortion is, however, always homocide, which is the killing of one human by another.</quote> That's a lot of words. Here's a few: It's not a baby. <cite>Im_JustMe0129 posted...</cite> <quote>Then liberal men on these boards shouldn't be advocating for abortion if this whole thing is a woman's choice anyway. See how a double-edged sword works?</quote> It's called being an ally. Hard concept, I'm sure. Try talking to some women and you'll get it eventually.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tennisdude818 05/17/19 5:02:43 PM #111:	This line of thinking is so transphobic. Some men have uteruses, and some women dont. --- "I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." Thomas Sowell <cite>tennisdude818 posted [p:922029770] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote>This line of thinking is so transphobic. Some men have uteruses, and some women dont.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryo_the_Inferno 05/17/19 5:18:49 PM #112:	_Rinku_ posted... It's called being an ally. Hard concept, I'm sure. Try talking to some women and you'll get it eventually. https://clinicquotes.com/women-are-more-pro-life-than-men/ https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/democrat-pollster-admits-women-are-more-pro-life-than-men-millennials-ignor https://www.lifenews.com/2016/01/12/do-women-support-abortion-more-than-men-the-answer-will-surprise-you/ --- 3DS FC: 3222-6077-2683 <cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted [p:922030393] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote>It's called being an ally. Hard concept, I'm sure. Try talking to some women and you'll get it eventually.</quote> https://clinicquotes.com/women-are-more-pro-life-than-men/ https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/democrat-pollster-admits-women-are-more-pro-life-than-men-millennials-ignor https://www.lifenews.com/2016/01/12/do-women-support-abortion-more-than-men-the-answer-will-surprise-you/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kami_no_Kami 05/17/19 5:33:03 PM #113:	Im_JustMe0129 posted... Then liberal men on these boards shouldn't be advocating for abortion if this whole thing is a woman's choice anyway. See how a double-edged sword works? No one here is advocating for abortion, lol. <cite>Kami_no_Kami posted [p:922030970] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote><cite>Im_JustMe0129 posted...</cite> <quote>Then liberal men on these boards shouldn't be advocating for abortion if this whole thing is a woman's choice anyway. See how a double-edged sword works?</quote> No one here is advocating for abortion, lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Rinku_ 05/17/19 5:45:55 PM #114:	Ryo_the_Inferno posted... _Rinku_ posted... It's called being an ally. Hard concept, I'm sure. Try talking to some women and you'll get it eventually. https://clinicquotes.com/women-are-more-pro-life-than-men/ https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/democrat-pollster-admits-women-are-more-pro-life-than-men-millennials-ignor https://www.lifenews.com/2016/01/12/do-women-support-abortion-more-than-men-the-answer-will-surprise-you/ Some women want to oppress other women. That isn't new. Be an ally to women who aren't oppressive control freaks. Also LOL @ those biased as fuck sources <cite>_Rinku_ posted [p:922031471] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote>It's called being an ally. Hard concept, I'm sure. Try talking to some women and you'll get it eventually.</quote> https://clinicquotes.com/women-are-more-pro-life-than-men/ https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/democrat-pollster-admits-women-are-more-pro-life-than-men-millennials-ignor https://www.lifenews.com/2016/01/12/do-women-support-abortion-more-than-men-the-answer-will-surprise-you/</quote> Some women want to oppress other women. That isn't new. Be an ally to women who aren't oppressive control freaks. Also LOL @ those biased as fuck sources</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryo_the_Inferno 05/17/19 5:50:44 PM #115:	_Rinku_ posted... Ryo_the_Inferno posted... _Rinku_ posted... It's called being an ally. Hard concept, I'm sure. Try talking to some women and you'll get it eventually. https://clinicquotes.com/women-are-more-pro-life-than-men/ https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/democrat-pollster-admits-women-are-more-pro-life-than-men-millennials-ignor https://www.lifenews.com/2016/01/12/do-women-support-abortion-more-than-men-the-answer-will-surprise-you/ Some women want to oppress other women. That isn't new. Be an ally to women who aren't oppressive control freaks. Also LOL @ those biased as fuck sources LOL "Only be allies to women I agree with!" --- 3DS FC: 3222-6077-2683 <cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted [p:922031650] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote>It's called being an ally. Hard concept, I'm sure. Try talking to some women and you'll get it eventually.</quote> https://clinicquotes.com/women-are-more-pro-life-than-men/ https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/democrat-pollster-admits-women-are-more-pro-life-than-men-millennials-ignor https://www.lifenews.com/2016/01/12/do-women-support-abortion-more-than-men-the-answer-will-surprise-you/</quote> Some women want to oppress other women. That isn't new. Be an ally to women who aren't oppressive control freaks. Also LOL @ those biased as fuck sources</quote> LOL "Only be allies to women I agree with!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Rinku_ 05/17/19 5:52:23 PM #116:	Ryo_the_Inferno posted... _Rinku_ posted... Ryo_the_Inferno posted... _Rinku_ posted... It's called being an ally. Hard concept, I'm sure. Try talking to some women and you'll get it eventually. https://clinicquotes.com/women-are-more-pro-life-than-men/ https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/democrat-pollster-admits-women-are-more-pro-life-than-men-millennials-ignor https://www.lifenews.com/2016/01/12/do-women-support-abortion-more-than-men-the-answer-will-surprise-you/ Some women want to oppress other women. That isn't new. Be an ally to women who aren't oppressive control freaks. Also LOL @ those biased as fuck sources LOL "Only be allies to women I agree with!" Be allies to women who aren't trying to take rights away from other women. This isn't hard stuff. <cite>_Rinku_ posted [p:922031722] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote>It's called being an ally. Hard concept, I'm sure. Try talking to some women and you'll get it eventually.</quote> https://clinicquotes.com/women-are-more-pro-life-than-men/ https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/democrat-pollster-admits-women-are-more-pro-life-than-men-millennials-ignor https://www.lifenews.com/2016/01/12/do-women-support-abortion-more-than-men-the-answer-will-surprise-you/</quote> Some women want to oppress other women. That isn't new. Be an ally to women who aren't oppressive control freaks. Also LOL @ those biased as fuck sources</quote> LOL "Only be allies to women I agree with!"</quote> Be allies to women who aren't trying to take rights away from other women. This isn't hard stuff.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryo_the_Inferno 05/17/19 5:53:21 PM #117:	_Rinku_ posted... Ryo_the_Inferno posted... _Rinku_ posted... Ryo_the_Inferno posted... _Rinku_ posted... It's called being an ally. Hard concept, I'm sure. Try talking to some women and you'll get it eventually. https://clinicquotes.com/women-are-more-pro-life-than-men/ https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/democrat-pollster-admits-women-are-more-pro-life-than-men-millennials-ignor https://www.lifenews.com/2016/01/12/do-women-support-abortion-more-than-men-the-answer-will-surprise-you/ Some women want to oppress other women. That isn't new. Be an ally to women who aren't oppressive control freaks. Also LOL @ those biased as fuck sources LOL "Only be allies to women I agree with!" Be allies to women who aren't trying to take rights away from other women. This isn't hard stuff. Abortion is a medical service. Nobody has rights to anyone's service. That's called slavery. And nobody has the right to take the life of another human being. --- 3DS FC: 3222-6077-2683 <cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted [p:922031754] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote>It's called being an ally. Hard concept, I'm sure. Try talking to some women and you'll get it eventually.</quote> https://clinicquotes.com/women-are-more-pro-life-than-men/ https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/democrat-pollster-admits-women-are-more-pro-life-than-men-millennials-ignor https://www.lifenews.com/2016/01/12/do-women-support-abortion-more-than-men-the-answer-will-surprise-you/</quote> Some women want to oppress other women. That isn't new. Be an ally to women who aren't oppressive control freaks. Also LOL @ those biased as fuck sources</quote> LOL "Only be allies to women I agree with!"</quote> Be allies to women who aren't trying to take rights away from other women. This isn't hard stuff.</quote> Abortion is a medical service. Nobody has rights to anyone's service. That's called slavery. And nobody has the right to take the life of another human being.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Rinku_ 05/17/19 5:55:08 PM #118:	Ryo_the_Inferno posted... _Rinku_ posted... Ryo_the_Inferno posted... _Rinku_ posted... Ryo_the_Inferno posted... _Rinku_ posted... It's called being an ally. Hard concept, I'm sure. Try talking to some women and you'll get it eventually. https://clinicquotes.com/women-are-more-pro-life-than-men/ https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/democrat-pollster-admits-women-are-more-pro-life-than-men-millennials-ignor https://www.lifenews.com/2016/01/12/do-women-support-abortion-more-than-men-the-answer-will-surprise-you/ Some women want to oppress other women. That isn't new. Be an ally to women who aren't oppressive control freaks. Also LOL @ those biased as fuck sources LOL "Only be allies to women I agree with!" Be allies to women who aren't trying to take rights away from other women. This isn't hard stuff. Abortion is a medical service. Nobody has rights to anyone's service. That's called slavery. What a nonsensical and irrelevant statement. Come back when you have something meaningful to say. And review this legitimate source before you do: https://news.gallup.com/poll/244709/pro-choice-pro-life-2018-demographic-tables.aspx P.S.: A fetus is not a human being with rights, and it never should be. <cite>_Rinku_ posted [p:922031830] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote>It's called being an ally. Hard concept, I'm sure. Try talking to some women and you'll get it eventually.</quote> https://clinicquotes.com/women-are-more-pro-life-than-men/ https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/democrat-pollster-admits-women-are-more-pro-life-than-men-millennials-ignor https://www.lifenews.com/2016/01/12/do-women-support-abortion-more-than-men-the-answer-will-surprise-you/</quote> Some women want to oppress other women. That isn't new. Be an ally to women who aren't oppressive control freaks. Also LOL @ those biased as fuck sources</quote> LOL "Only be allies to women I agree with!"</quote> Be allies to women who aren't trying to take rights away from other women. This isn't hard stuff.</quote> Abortion is a medical service. Nobody has rights to anyone's service. That's called slavery.</quote> What a nonsensical and irrelevant statement. Come back when you have something meaningful to say. And review this legitimate source before you do: https://news.gallup.com/poll/244709/pro-choice-pro-life-2018-demographic-tables.aspx P.S.: A fetus is not a human being with rights, and it never should be.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryo_the_Inferno 05/17/19 5:58:18 PM #120:	_Rinku_ posted... Ryo_the_Inferno posted... _Rinku_ posted... Ryo_the_Inferno posted... _Rinku_ posted... Ryo_the_Inferno posted... _Rinku_ posted... It's called being an ally. Hard concept, I'm sure. Try talking to some women and you'll get it eventually. https://clinicquotes.com/women-are-more-pro-life-than-men/ https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/democrat-pollster-admits-women-are-more-pro-life-than-men-millennials-ignor https://www.lifenews.com/2016/01/12/do-women-support-abortion-more-than-men-the-answer-will-surprise-you/ Some women want to oppress other women. That isn't new. Be an ally to women who aren't oppressive control freaks. Also LOL @ those biased as fuck sources LOL "Only be allies to women I agree with!" Be allies to women who aren't trying to take rights away from other women. This isn't hard stuff. Abortion is a medical service. Nobody has rights to anyone's service. That's called slavery. What a nonsensical and irrelevant statement. Come back when you have something meaningful to say. And review this legitimate source before you do: https://news.gallup.com/poll/244709/pro-choice-pro-life-2018-demographic-tables.aspx P.S.: A fetus is not a human being with rights, and it never should be. A fetus is literally a human being. All human beings have rights. Why are your arguments against babies so anti-science? If you really wanted to make an argument about developing babies, you wouldn't use "fetus", since that's the developmental stage that lasts from 2 months until birth. If you really wanted to argue for abortion you'd go with something pre-fetus, like zygote or embryo. A baby is a fetus until birth, when it becomes an infant. --- 3DS FC: 3222-6077-2683 <cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted [p:922031944] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote>It's called being an ally. Hard concept, I'm sure. Try talking to some women and you'll get it eventually.</quote> https://clinicquotes.com/women-are-more-pro-life-than-men/ https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/democrat-pollster-admits-women-are-more-pro-life-than-men-millennials-ignor https://www.lifenews.com/2016/01/12/do-women-support-abortion-more-than-men-the-answer-will-surprise-you/</quote> Some women want to oppress other women. That isn't new. Be an ally to women who aren't oppressive control freaks. Also LOL @ those biased as fuck sources</quote> LOL "Only be allies to women I agree with!"</quote> Be allies to women who aren't trying to take rights away from other women. This isn't hard stuff.</quote> Abortion is a medical service. Nobody has rights to anyone's service. That's called slavery.</quote> What a nonsensical and irrelevant statement. Come back when you have something meaningful to say. And review this legitimate source before you do: https://news.gallup.com/poll/244709/pro-choice-pro-life-2018-demographic-tables.aspx P.S.: A fetus is not a human being with rights, and it never should be.</quote> A fetus is literally a human being. All human beings have rights. Why are your arguments against babies so anti-science? If you really wanted to make an argument about developing babies, you wouldn't use "fetus", since that's the developmental stage that lasts from 2 months until birth. If you really wanted to argue for abortion you'd go with something pre-fetus, like zygote or embryo. A baby is a fetus until birth, when it becomes an infant.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Rinku_ 05/17/19 5:59:56 PM #121:	Ryo_the_Inferno posted... A fetus is literally a human being. All human beings have rights. Why are your arguments against babies so anti-science? It's not a legal human being. It has no rights nor should it. You're projecting by calling my argument the unscientific one. <cite>_Rinku_ posted [p:922031999] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote>A fetus is literally a human being. All human beings have rights. Why are your arguments against babies so anti-science?</quote> It's not a legal human being. It has no rights nor should it. You're projecting by calling my argument the unscientific one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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karlpilkington4 05/17/19 6:09:27 PM #123:	_Rinku_ posted... Ryo_the_Inferno posted... A fetus is literally a human being. All human beings have rights. Why are your arguments against babies so anti-science? It's not a legal human being. It has no rights nor should it. You're projecting by calling my argument the unscientific one. Legality is literally made up by politicians and lawmakers. Many states are now giving a fetus the ability to live. You can disagree with their decision, but thats not up to just you. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922032369] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote>A fetus is literally a human being. All human beings have rights. Why are your arguments against babies so anti-science?</quote> It's not a legal human being. It has no rights nor should it. You're projecting by calling my argument the unscientific one.</quote> Legality is literally made up by politicians and lawmakers. Many states are now giving a fetus the ability to live. You can disagree with their decision, but thats not up to just you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Rinku_ 05/17/19 6:11:26 PM #124:	karlpilkington4 posted... _Rinku_ posted... Ryo_the_Inferno posted... A fetus is literally a human being. All human beings have rights. Why are your arguments against babies so anti-science? It's not a legal human being. It has no rights nor should it. You're projecting by calling my argument the unscientific one. Legality is literally made up by politicians and lawmakers. Many states are now giving a fetus the ability to live. You can disagree with their decision, but thats not up to just you. Oh, you're back. Yes, some states are trying to control women. It sucks. <cite>_Rinku_ posted [p:922032437] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote>A fetus is literally a human being. All human beings have rights. Why are your arguments against babies so anti-science?</quote> It's not a legal human being. It has no rights nor should it. You're projecting by calling my argument the unscientific one.</quote> Legality is literally made up by politicians and lawmakers. Many states are now giving a fetus the ability to live. You can disagree with their decision, but thats not up to just you.</quote> Oh, you're back. Yes, some states are trying to control women. It sucks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PBusted 05/17/19 6:15:04 PM #125:	karlpilkington4 posted... _Rinku_ posted... Ryo_the_Inferno posted... A fetus is literally a human being. All human beings have rights. Why are your arguments against babies so anti-science? It's not a legal human being. It has no rights nor should it. You're projecting by calling my argument the unscientific one. Legality is literally made up by politicians and lawmakers. Many states are now giving a fetus the ability to live. You can disagree with their decision, but thats not up to just you. States that are the highest in crime rates and lowest in health care, opportunity for residents, education, and intelligence rates. Also states that were against gay marriage and likely would be for segregation if it was a current issue. So basically American third world states. <cite>PBusted posted [p:922032572] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote>A fetus is literally a human being. All human beings have rights. Why are your arguments against babies so anti-science?</quote> It's not a legal human being. It has no rights nor should it. You're projecting by calling my argument the unscientific one.</quote> Legality is literally made up by politicians and lawmakers. Many states are now giving a fetus the ability to live. You can disagree with their decision, but thats not up to just you.</quote> States that are the highest in crime rates and lowest in health care, opportunity for residents, education, and intelligence rates. Also states that were against gay marriage and likely would be for segregation if it was a current issue. So basically American third world states.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryo_the_Inferno 05/17/19 6:16:14 PM #126:	_Rinku_ posted... Ryo_the_Inferno posted... A fetus is literally a human being. All human beings have rights. Why are your arguments against babies so anti-science? It's not a legal human being. It has no rights nor should it. You're projecting by calling my argument the unscientific one. Using the term "legal human being" basically admits that you're arguing unscientifically. The definition of "legal human being" can change, the scientific fact that a fetus is human cannot. SerperiorThanU posted... cientifically, a fetus isnt any more human than skin cells are. Im sure youll give out extra justifications like itll become a human but those are arbitrary conditions and not part of science. I don't need extra justification, because it already is a human being. "It will become a human" is a legal argument, not scientific. You saying it's no more human than skin cells is absolutely ridiculous. A fetus has it's own heart, brain, skin, blood, bones, and everything else. It is an entire, separate, human from the mother. --- 3DS FC: 3222-6077-2683 <cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted [p:922032613] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote>A fetus is literally a human being. All human beings have rights. Why are your arguments against babies so anti-science?</quote> It's not a legal human being. It has no rights nor should it. You're projecting by calling my argument the unscientific one.</quote> Using the term "legal human being" basically admits that you're arguing unscientifically. The definition of "legal human being" can change, the scientific fact that a fetus is human cannot. <cite>SerperiorThanU posted...</cite> <quote>cientifically, a fetus isnt any more human than skin cells are. Im sure youll give out extra justifications like itll become a human but those are arbitrary conditions and not part of science.</quote> I don't need extra justification, because it already is a human being. "It will become a human" is a legal argument, not scientific. You saying it's no more human than skin cells is absolutely ridiculous. A fetus has it's own heart, brain, skin, blood, bones, and everything else. It is an entire, separate, human from the mother.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BignutzisBack 05/17/19 6:17:27 PM #127:	Another topic where people try to delude themselves into thinking they aren't killing babies smh, I get abortion is a tough subject but please stop with your it's not a life yet nonsense --- https://imgur.com/plA0Vg9 https://media.giphy.com/media/dgK22exekwOLm/giphy.gif <cite>BignutzisBack posted [p:922032654] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote>Another topic where people try to delude themselves into thinking they aren't killing babies smh, I get abortion is a tough subject but please stop with your it's not a life yet nonsense</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthWendy 05/17/19 6:18:54 PM #128:	_Rinku_ posted... TennTux posted... _Rinku_ posted... Sackgurl posted... the AL law was written by a woman And she's a traitor to her sex. Lol Yeah, loss of bodily autonomy is really hilarious. Kek --- Ave Caesar, Rosae Rosam et Spiritus Rex ! - Voila, ca ne veut absolument rien dire mais l'effet reste le meme https://i.imgtc.com/eRE0ORV.jpg <cite>DarthWendy posted [p:922032706] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TennTux posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sackgurl posted...</cite> <quote>the AL law was written by a woman</quote> And she's a traitor to her sex.</quote> Lol</quote> Yeah, loss of bodily autonomy is really hilarious.</quote> Kek</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Rinku_ 05/17/19 6:19:06 PM #129:	Ryo, your argument is a joke. Scientifically speaking, a fetus is effectively a parasite. It siphons resources from its host and can threaten her life. Miss me with that "it'sthe same species SO it's not" mess because we're not being strictly literal here. There is absolutely zero reason to give something that can't exist outside of another living creature rights. <cite>_Rinku_ posted [p:922032715] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote>Ryo, your argument is a joke. Scientifically speaking, a fetus is effectively a parasite. It siphons resources from its host and can threaten her life. Miss me with that "it'sthe same species SO it's not" mess because we're not being strictly literal here. There is absolutely zero reason to give something that can't exist outside of another living creature rights.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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marc55 05/17/19 6:23:29 PM #131:	Paragon21XX posted... Duncanwii posted... Gobstoppers12 posted... imagine being this upset because you're not allowed to murder your own unborn child anymore It's no worse then expelling a tapeworm. Unless you want to say killing a tapeworm is murder too. I don't think you quite understand how to make valid comparisons. dont be surprised there are people like him who think crimes like that one https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/chesapeake/man-charged-with-attempted-murder-of-unborn-child-in-chesapeake/1919846206 or when the unborn babies are killed shouldnt be punished and others tell themselves stuff like that to make abortion easier for them --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:922032884] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote><cite>Paragon21XX posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Duncanwii posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Gobstoppers12 posted...</cite> <quote> imagine being this upset because you're not allowed to murder your own unborn child anymore</quote> It's no worse then expelling a tapeworm. Unless you want to say killing a tapeworm is murder too.</quote> I don't think you quite understand how to make valid comparisons.</quote> dont be surprised there are people like him who think crimes like that one https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/chesapeake/man-charged-with-attempted-murder-of-unborn-child-in-chesapeake/1919846206 or when the unborn babies are killed shouldnt be punished and others tell themselves stuff like that to make abortion easier for them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eridania67814 05/17/19 6:24:23 PM #132:	_Rinku_ posted... Ryo, your argument is a joke. Scientifically speaking, a fetus is effectively a parasite. It siphons resources from its host and can threaten her life. Miss me with that "it'sthe same species SO it's not" mess because we're not being strictly literal here. There is absolutely zero reason to give something that can't exist outside of another living creature rights. No, that's not even the problem. It's that all of these measures don't do a damned thing to dudes for ejaculating irresponsibly. It would be ok to say "the fetus has rights" if it didn't trump the rights of the 'host' and didn't require anything of the host after it was born --- -- - <cite>eridania67814 posted [p:922032924] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote>Ryo, your argument is a joke. Scientifically speaking, a fetus is effectively a parasite. It siphons resources from its host and can threaten her life. Miss me with that "it'sthe same species SO it's not" mess because we're not being strictly literal here. There is absolutely zero reason to give something that can't exist outside of another living creature rights.</quote> No, that's not even the problem. It's that all of these measures don't do a damned thing to dudes for ejaculating irresponsibly. It would be ok to say "the fetus has rights" if it didn't trump the rights of the 'host' and didn't require anything of the host after it was born</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Rinku_ 05/17/19 6:28:55 PM #133:	eridania67814 posted... _Rinku_ posted... Ryo, your argument is a joke. Scientifically speaking, a fetus is effectively a parasite. It siphons resources from its host and can threaten her life. Miss me with that "it'sthe same species SO it's not" mess because we're not being strictly literal here. There is absolutely zero reason to give something that can't exist outside of another living creature rights. No, that's not even the problem. It's that all of these measures don't do a damned thing to dudes for ejaculating irresponsibly. It would be ok to say "the fetus has rights" if it didn't trump the rights of the 'host' and didn't require anything of the host after it was born I actually find that pretty agreeable. The issue is that most people who want a fetus to have rights explicitly want them to take priority over the woman's no matter what. <cite>_Rinku_ posted [p:922033081] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote><cite>eridania67814 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote>Ryo, your argument is a joke. Scientifically speaking, a fetus is effectively a parasite. It siphons resources from its host and can threaten her life. Miss me with that "it'sthe same species SO it's not" mess because we're not being strictly literal here. There is absolutely zero reason to give something that can't exist outside of another living creature rights.</quote> No, that's not even the problem. It's that all of these measures don't do a damned thing to dudes for ejaculating irresponsibly. It would be ok to say "the fetus has rights" if it didn't trump the rights of the 'host' and didn't require anything of the host after it was born</quote> I actually find that pretty agreeable. The issue is that most people who want a fetus to have rights explicitly want them to take priority over the woman's no matter what.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0xDEFECADE 05/17/19 6:30:55 PM #134:	when youre right youre right HypnoCoosh posted... Cut myself on the edge lmao --- 1101 1110 1111 1110 1100 1010 1101 1110 <cite>0xDEFECADE posted [p:922033152] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote>when youre right youre right <cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote>Cut myself on the edge</quote> lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eridania67814 05/17/19 6:43:38 PM #135:	I want to hear what anyone else here who actually carried a baby in their body has to say. We're the only ones who know --- -- - <cite>eridania67814 posted [p:922033627] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote>I want to hear what anyone else here who actually carried a baby in their body has to say. We're the only ones who know</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BignutzisBack 05/17/19 6:46:11 PM #136:	eridania67814 posted... We're the only ones who know know what? --- https://imgur.com/plA0Vg9 https://media.giphy.com/media/dgK22exekwOLm/giphy.gif <cite>BignutzisBack posted [p:922033711] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote><cite>eridania67814 posted...</cite> <quote>We're the only ones who know </quote> know what?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eridania67814 05/17/19 6:48:30 PM #137:	BignutzisBack posted... eridania67814 posted... We're the only ones who know know what? Well, I take that back, there are plenty of dumb women out there who managed to give birth and still go around talking about "you gotta have sex more than once to get pregnant" and other such nonsense. Would be nice to hear other mothers talk about it rather than just you irresponsible and responsible ejaculators --- -- - <cite>eridania67814 posted [p:922033793] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote><cite>BignutzisBack posted...</cite> <quote><cite>eridania67814 posted...</cite> <quote>We're the only ones who know </quote> know what?</quote> Well, I take that back, there are plenty of dumb women out there who managed to give birth and still go around talking about "you gotta have sex more than once to get pregnant" and other such nonsense. Would be nice to hear other mothers talk about it rather than just you irresponsible and responsible ejaculators</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Rinku_ 05/17/19 6:48:46 PM #138:	BignutzisBack posted... eridania67814 posted... We're the only ones who know know what? The physical and mental toll of carrying a pregnancy to term. Like the fact that a lot of women suffer permanent damage to their ability to control their bladder. It's not to the point that they're incontinent, but the joke about "It's your fault your mama pees when she laughs" is surprisingly true. <cite>_Rinku_ posted [p:922033800] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote><cite>BignutzisBack posted...</cite> <quote><cite>eridania67814 posted...</cite> <quote>We're the only ones who know </quote> know what?</quote> The physical and mental toll of carrying a pregnancy to term. Like the fact that a lot of women suffer permanent damage to their ability to control their bladder. It's not to the point that they're incontinent, but the joke about "It's your fault your mama pees when she laughs" is surprisingly true.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eridania67814 05/17/19 6:50:00 PM #139:	That's small, @_Rinku_ but yes --- -- - <cite>eridania67814 posted [p:922033834] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote>That's small, @_Rinku_ but yes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Rinku_ 05/17/19 7:01:44 PM #140:	eridania67814 posted... That's small, @_Rinku_ but yes That's just one of the things I've read can happen. I don't have firsthand experience. Would you please share what it was like for you? Only if you feel comfortable, of course. <cite>_Rinku_ posted [p:922034254] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote><cite>eridania67814 posted...</cite> <quote>That's small, @_Rinku_ but yes</quote> That's just one of the things I've read can happen. I don't have firsthand experience. Would you please share what it was like for you? Only if you feel comfortable, of course.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryo_the_Inferno 05/17/19 7:02:49 PM #141:	SerperiorThanU posted... Ryo_the_Inferno posted... I don't need extra justification, because it already is a human being. "It will become a human" is a legal argument, not scientific. You saying it's no more human than skin cells is absolutely ridiculous. A fetus has it's own heart, brain, skin, blood, bones, and everything else. It is an entire, separate, human from the mother. Thats late-term. Prior to developing a defined brain and nervous system they arent any more human than the various other organs within the body. That's not even late term, it's more like early to mid term. The baby's brain starts growing during week 6-7. That's first trimester. The brain starts functioning around week 10, which is still the first trimester. _Rinku_ posted... eridania67814 posted... _Rinku_ posted... Ryo, your argument is a joke. Scientifically speaking, a fetus is effectively a parasite. It siphons resources from its host and can threaten her life. Miss me with that "it'sthe same species SO it's not" mess because we're not being strictly literal here. There is absolutely zero reason to give something that can't exist outside of another living creature rights. No, that's not even the problem. It's that all of these measures don't do a damned thing to dudes for ejaculating irresponsibly. It would be ok to say "the fetus has rights" if it didn't trump the rights of the 'host' and didn't require anything of the host after it was born I actually find that pretty agreeable. The issue is that most people who want a fetus to have rights explicitly want them to take priority over the woman's no matter what. It's less about wanting the baby's rights to trump the woman's, and more about wanting the baby's rights to be put into consideration at all. --- 3DS FC: 3222-6077-2683 <cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted [p:922034295] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote><cite>SerperiorThanU posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote>I don't need extra justification, because it already is a human being. "It will become a human" is a legal argument, not scientific. You saying it's no more human than skin cells is absolutely ridiculous. A fetus has it's own heart, brain, skin, blood, bones, and everything else. It is an entire, separate, human from the mother.</quote> Thats late-term. Prior to developing a defined brain and nervous system they arent any more human than the various other organs within the body.</quote> That's not even late term, it's more like early to mid term. The baby's brain starts growing during week 6-7. That's first trimester. The brain starts functioning around week 10, which is still the first trimester. <cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>eridania67814 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote>Ryo, your argument is a joke. Scientifically speaking, a fetus is effectively a parasite. It siphons resources from its host and can threaten her life. Miss me with that "it'sthe same species SO it's not" mess because we're not being strictly literal here. There is absolutely zero reason to give something that can't exist outside of another living creature rights.</quote> No, that's not even the problem. It's that all of these measures don't do a damned thing to dudes for ejaculating irresponsibly. It would be ok to say "the fetus has rights" if it didn't trump the rights of the 'host' and didn't require anything of the host after it was born</quote> I actually find that pretty agreeable. The issue is that most people who want a fetus to have rights explicitly want them to take priority over the woman's no matter what.</quote> It's less about wanting the baby's rights to trump the woman's, and more about wanting the baby's rights to be put into consideration at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thanosibe 05/17/19 7:08:26 PM #142:	Wow its funny how the extremists on both sides are so much exactly alike but both think their opinion is superior to the other side. A woman should be able to abort her baby for any reason!! A woman should never be able to abort her baby for any reason!! No nuance, no intelligence. Just bad opinions that encompass no special circumstances and events that lead up to the pregnancy. No honesty within themselves that 100% of abortions are a case by case decision. And that educating men and women in sexual responibility as well as the ramifications of a decision to abort or not will follow a person their whole life. Just a lot of shit posting. --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski <cite>thanosibe posted [p:922034460] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote>Wow its funny how the extremists on both sides are so much exactly alike but both think their opinion is superior to the other side. A woman should be able to abort her baby for any reason!! A woman should never be able to abort her baby for any reason!! No nuance, no intelligence. Just bad opinions that encompass no special circumstances and events that lead up to the pregnancy. No honesty within themselves that 100% of abortions are a case by case decision. And that educating men and women in sexual responibility as well as the ramifications of a decision to abort or not will follow a person their whole life. Just a lot of shit posting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eridania67814 05/17/19 7:14:16 PM #143:	@Ryo_the_Inferno if you have two people arguing over a given piece of property, how do you determine who has rights to it? Can you split it up? Can you compensate one for their "loss?" Do you go with the "sooner state" option where whomever was there first gets the rights? This is exactly one way you need to consider this argument. Woman exists. Baby shows up inside of woman. Woman has rights to that space. Figure out some options where baby does not have to occupy the same space and still lives and that works. It's only one way y'all refuse to look at it, but I probably have more anecdotes y'all will claim don't make sense or are inaccurate --- -- - <cite>eridania67814 posted [p:922034621] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote>@Ryo_the_Inferno if you have two people arguing over a given piece of property, how do you determine who has rights to it? Can you split it up? Can you compensate one for their "loss?" Do you go with the "sooner state" option where whomever was there first gets the rights? This is exactly one way you need to consider this argument. Woman exists. Baby shows up inside of woman. Woman has rights to that space. Figure out some options where baby does not have to occupy the same space and still lives and that works. It's only one way y'all refuse to look at it, but I probably have more anecdotes y'all will claim don't make sense or are inaccurate</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem boy 05/17/19 7:16:26 PM #144:	This whole narrative about how men shouldn't be making the laws regarding abortion is kinda annoying me. Mainly because I think pro choice people do a disservice to themselves on focussing on this narrative. It removes the fact that there are women who are pro life and would probably make the same legislature if they were in the seat. If a group of all women voted on strict abortion laws, would that make the law any better? Of course not. Focus on why there should be abortions instead of some tangent narrative that doesn't speak to the real issue --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>emblem boy posted [p:922034698] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote>This whole narrative about how men shouldn't be making the laws regarding abortion is kinda annoying me. Mainly because I think pro choice people do a disservice to themselves on focussing on this narrative. It removes the fact that there are women who are pro life and would probably make the same legislature if they were in the seat. If a group of all women voted on strict abortion laws, would that make the law any better? Of course not. Focus on why there should be abortions instead of some tangent narrative that doesn't speak to the real issue</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 05/17/19 7:17:56 PM #145:	emblem boy posted... This whole narrative about how men shouldn't be making the laws regarding abortion is kinda annoying me. Mainly because I think pro choice people do a disservice to themselves on focussing on this narrative. It removes the fact that there are women who are pro life and would probably make the same legislature if they were in the seat. If a group of all women voted on strict abortion laws, would that make the law any better? Of course not. Focus on why there should be abortions instead of some tangent narrative that doesn't speak to the real issue I think it speaks to an inability or unwillingness on the part of many liberals to identify the real villains. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:922034732] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote><cite>emblem boy posted...</cite> <quote>This whole narrative about how men shouldn't be making the laws regarding abortion is kinda annoying me. Mainly because I think pro choice people do a disservice to themselves on focussing on this narrative. It removes the fact that there are women who are pro life and would probably make the same legislature if they were in the seat. If a group of all women voted on strict abortion laws, would that make the law any better? Of course not. Focus on why there should be abortions instead of some tangent narrative that doesn't speak to the real issue</quote> I think it speaks to an inability or unwillingness on the part of many liberals to identify the real villains.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eridania67814 05/17/19 7:20:10 PM #146:	Antifar posted... emblem boy posted... This whole narrative about how men shouldn't be making the laws regarding abortion is kinda annoying me. Mainly because I think pro choice people do a disservice to themselves on focussing on this narrative. It removes the fact that there are women who are pro life and would probably make the same legislature if they were in the seat. If a group of all women voted on strict abortion laws, would that make the law any better? Of course not. Focus on why there should be abortions instead of some tangent narrative that doesn't speak to the real issue I think it speaks to an inability or unwillingness on the part of many liberals to identify the real villains. So who are the real villains? --- -- - <cite>eridania67814 posted [p:922034817] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>emblem boy posted...</cite> <quote>This whole narrative about how men shouldn't be making the laws regarding abortion is kinda annoying me. Mainly because I think pro choice people do a disservice to themselves on focussing on this narrative. It removes the fact that there are women who are pro life and would probably make the same legislature if they were in the seat. If a group of all women voted on strict abortion laws, would that make the law any better? Of course not. Focus on why there should be abortions instead of some tangent narrative that doesn't speak to the real issue</quote> I think it speaks to an inability or unwillingness on the part of many liberals to identify the real villains.</quote> So who are the real villains?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 05/17/19 7:20:57 PM #147:	eridania67814 posted... So who are the real villains? In this case, Republican lawmakers regardless of gender. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:922034839] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote><cite>eridania67814 posted...</cite> <quote>So who are the real villains?</quote> In this case, Republican lawmakers regardless of gender.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Rinku_ 05/17/19 7:21:37 PM #148:	Here's another thing I think people don't consider: women who want to outlaw abortion are still getting their choice (to carry to term if they get pregnant). They are taking that choice away from other women. ~~Not to mention the extraordinarily vocal ones who get abortions and then protest outside of the clinic.~~ <cite>_Rinku_ posted [p:922034853] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote>Here's another thing I think people don't consider: women who want to outlaw abortion are still getting their choice (to carry to term if they get pregnant). They are taking that choice away from other women. Not to mention the extraordinarily vocal ones who get abortions and then protest outside of the clinic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem boy 05/17/19 7:22:05 PM #149:	Antifar posted... emblem boy posted... This whole narrative about how men shouldn't be making the laws regarding abortion is kinda annoying me. Mainly because I think pro choice people do a disservice to themselves on focussing on this narrative. It removes the fact that there are women who are pro life and would probably make the same legislature if they were in the seat. If a group of all women voted on strict abortion laws, would that make the law any better? Of course not. Focus on why there should be abortions instead of some tangent narrative that doesn't speak to the real issue I think it speaks to an inability or unwillingness on the part of many liberals to identify the real villains. Who would be the villains? I think it's a willingness on the part of many to want to create a villain when there might be none --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>emblem boy posted [p:922034869] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>emblem boy posted...</cite> <quote> This whole narrative about how men shouldn't be making the laws regarding abortion is kinda annoying me. Mainly because I think pro choice people do a disservice to themselves on focussing on this narrative. It removes the fact that there are women who are pro life and would probably make the same legislature if they were in the seat. If a group of all women voted on strict abortion laws, would that make the law any better? Of course not. Focus on why there should be abortions instead of some tangent narrative that doesn't speak to the real issue</quote> I think it speaks to an inability or unwillingness on the part of many liberals to identify the real villains.</quote> Who would be the villains? I think it's a willingness on the part of many to want to create a villain when there might be none</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Rinku_ 05/17/19 7:22:30 PM #150:	Antifar posted... eridania67814 posted... So who are the real villains? In this case, Republican lawmakers regardless of gender. That's why I say Terri Collins is evil. <cite>_Rinku_ posted [p:922034880] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>eridania67814 posted...</cite> <quote>So who are the real villains?</quote> In this case, Republican lawmakers regardless of gender.</quote> That's why I say Terri Collins is evil.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BilalPowell 05/17/19 7:26:37 PM #151:	One point nobody's brought up: there are trans-men who get pregnant and women making laws that tell them what to do with their body. --- Former #1 Birmingham Iron Fan. RIP AAF <cite>BilalPowell posted [p:922035019] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote>One point nobody's brought up: there are trans-men who get pregnant and women making laws that tell them what to do with their body.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eridania67814 05/17/19 7:26:46 PM #152:	There's only one villain here, ignorance. Abortion is like everything else in life, there are reasons to do it, some better than others, and ultimately the choice of the person carrying the baby. If you're ignorant enough to think women won't still have abortions, by themselves, regardless of risk, then you're just as ignorant as the people trying to bang guns. Also, if you don't acknowledge the real problem, you're just putting a band-aid on a puncture wound --- -- - <cite>eridania67814 posted [p:922035022] in Men should... [t:77721579]...</cite> <quote>There's only one villain here, ignorance. Abortion is like everything else in life, there are reasons to do it, some better than others, and ultimately the choice of the person carrying the baby. If you're ignorant enough to think women won't still have abortions, by themselves, regardless of risk, then you're just as ignorant as the people trying to bang guns. Also, if you don't acknowledge the real problem, you're just putting a band-aid on a puncture wound</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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