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Paragon21XX 05/17/19 11:52:48 AM #51: |
_Rinku_ posted...
BilalPowell posted...Date out of stomach is kind of an arbitrary point in time to decide a child can no longer be murdered. People can't live independently until we're 18. Maybe that should be the legal abortion limit. Some could successfully argue that about your own existence. --- Hmm... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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burritosatan 05/17/19 11:53:33 AM #52: |
BilalPowell posted...
Date out of stomach is kind of an arbitrary point in time to decide a child can no longer be murdered. People can't live independently until we're 18. Maybe that should be the legal abortion limit. Baby develop in the stomach? --- Same sex marriage is not gay privilege, its equal rights. Privilege would be something like gay people not paying taxes. Like churches don't ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tennisdude818 05/17/19 11:54:18 AM #53: |
It is very annoying to hear big government feminists trying to sound libertarian. My body, your wallet is a weak position to be doing that from.
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Nidhoggr 05/17/19 11:56:55 AM #54: |
It's a lost cause. Anti-lifers continually go out of their way to dehumanize unborn babies to convince themselves and others that it isn't the taking of a life. They want to virtue signal and be "progressive" to the point that they are fine with cold-blooded murder. Honestly sickens me.
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hollow_shrine 05/17/19 11:56:58 AM #55: |
tennisdude818 posted...
It is very annoying to hear big government feminists trying to sound libertarian. My body, your wallet is a weak position to be doing that from. As opposed to 'my body, my choice,' you mean. I agree. Their chosen position on bodily autonomy and reproductive justice is much more defensible. --- Ignorance is a choice https://imgtc.com/i/7UnK3hx.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thanosibe 05/17/19 11:59:44 AM #56: |
GasMonkey posted...
A pregnant woman who is injured and aborts the fetus warrants financial compensation only (to her husband), suggesting that the fetus is property, not a person (Exodus 21:22-25).I like how all your examples but one are from the Old Testament, a defunct covenant between God and his people with Jesus sacrifice and a new covenant was made. And then the one example you do take out of the New Testament is completely taken out of context and Jesus' words in that scripture have zero to do with abortion. To be honest, the shit posting extremist on both sides of this controversy make actual discussion almost indistinguishable. So most people that want actual conversation just give up. --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski ... Copied to Clipboard!
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jborgan 05/17/19 12:00:48 PM #57: |
Nidhoggr posted...
It's a lost cause. Anti-lifers continually go out of their way to dehumanize unborn babies to convince themselves and others that it isn't the taking of a life. They want to virtue signal and be "progressive" to the point that they are fine with cold-blooded murder. Honestly sickens me. "Anti-life" That's a new one. The trolls are coming up with new ways to lie to fit their agenda. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BilalPowell 05/17/19 12:02:37 PM #58: |
jborgan posted...
Nidhoggr posted...It's a lost cause. Anti-lifers continually go out of their way to dehumanize unborn babies to convince themselves and others that it isn't the taking of a life. They want to virtue signal and be "progressive" to the point that they are fine with cold-blooded murder. Honestly sickens me. Pro-choice people like to call pro-life people anti-choice. Same thing both sides. --- Former #1 Birmingham Iron Fan. RIP AAF ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Rinku_ 05/17/19 12:02:57 PM #59: |
thanosibe posted...
GasMonkey posted...A pregnant woman who is injured and aborts the fetus warrants financial compensation only (to her husband), suggesting that the fetus is property, not a person (Exodus 21:22-25).I like how all your examples but one are from the Old Testament, a defunct covenant between God and his people with Jesus sacrifice and a new covenant was made. And then the one example you do take out of the New Testament is completely taken out of context and Jesus' words in that scripture have zero to do with abortion. Pretty sure Jesus literally says he did not come to abolish the old laws. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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burritosatan 05/17/19 12:03:20 PM #60: |
GasMonkey posted...
A pregnant woman who is injured and aborts the fetus warrants financial compensation only (to her husband), suggesting that the fetus is property, not a person (Exodus 21:22-25). Numbers 31:17 (Moses) Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every women that hath known man by lying with him. Hosea 9:11-16 Hosea prays for Gods intervention. Ephraim shall bring forth his children to the murderer. Give them, 0 Lord: what wilt thou give? Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. . .Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit: yea though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb. Judges 11:30-40 Jephthah killed his young daughter (his only child) by burning her alive as a burnt sacrifice to the lord for he commanded it. Psalms 137:8-9 Prayer/song of vengeance 0 daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us. Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. The list is endless for both sides --- Same sex marriage is not gay privilege, its equal rights. Privilege would be something like gay people not paying taxes. Like churches don't ... Copied to Clipboard!
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jborgan 05/17/19 12:07:56 PM #61: |
BilalPowell posted...
jborgan posted...Nidhoggr posted...It's a lost cause. Anti-lifers continually go out of their way to dehumanize unborn babies to convince themselves and others that it isn't the taking of a life. They want to virtue signal and be "progressive" to the point that they are fine with cold-blooded murder. Honestly sickens me. Nope. Pro-choice people don't care if a woman has a baby or not. They care if she has the choice. Pro-lifers want to take that choice away. Anti-choice is accurate. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Rinku_ 05/17/19 12:09:35 PM #62: |
jborgan posted...
BilalPowell posted...jborgan posted...Nidhoggr posted...It's a lost cause. Anti-lifers continually go out of their way to dehumanize unborn babies to convince themselves and others that it isn't the taking of a life. They want to virtue signal and be "progressive" to the point that they are fine with cold-blooded murder. Honestly sickens me. Was about to say just that. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dragonblade01 05/17/19 12:09:44 PM #63: |
While I'm all for more representation making its way into political offices, I'm less concerned about their demographics and more about their shitty policies.
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BilalPowell 05/17/19 12:11:39 PM #64: |
jborgan posted...
BilalPowell posted...jborgan posted...Nidhoggr posted...It's a lost cause. Anti-lifers continually go out of their way to dehumanize unborn babies to convince themselves and others that it isn't the taking of a life. They want to virtue signal and be "progressive" to the point that they are fine with cold-blooded murder. Honestly sickens me. I'm sure if it's a pregnant 14 year old they're very anti-life. --- Former #1 Birmingham Iron Fan. RIP AAF ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dragonblade01 05/17/19 12:11:43 PM #65: |
Regarding the Bible, since women are primarily the property of men, its views surrounding abortion fall in line with that (typically, unacceptable if it's the husband's child, more acceptable if it isn't).
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jborgan 05/17/19 12:18:01 PM #66: |
BilalPowell posted...
jborgan posted...BilalPowell posted...jborgan posted...Nidhoggr posted...It's a lost cause. Anti-lifers continually go out of their way to dehumanize unborn babies to convince themselves and others that it isn't the taking of a life. They want to virtue signal and be "progressive" to the point that they are fine with cold-blooded murder. Honestly sickens me. Mainly because pregnancy, and giving birth specifically, is a very stressful experience that many fully developed, adult women have trouble going through, let alone a 14 year old. But if the 14 year old wanted to have the baby, I would be okay with that...because it's her choice, as long as she knows the risks involved. Pro-lifers don't understand that pregnancy is not easy and would force, let's say an 11 year old to give birth, even though it would probably kill her. Kind of defeats the purpose of being pro-life. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ohio-abortion-heartbeat-bill-pregnant-11-year-old-rape-victim-barred-abortion-after-new-ohio-abortion-bill-2019-05-13/ --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Rinku_ 05/17/19 12:18:22 PM #67: |
BilalPowell posted...
jborgan posted...BilalPowell posted...jborgan posted...Nidhoggr posted...It's a lost cause. Anti-lifers continually go out of their way to dehumanize unborn babies to convince themselves and others that it isn't the taking of a life. They want to virtue signal and be "progressive" to the point that they are fine with cold-blooded murder. Honestly sickens me. Why do you think that? Pro-choice people want that girl to have the choice of what to do. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gobstoppers12 05/17/19 12:19:46 PM #68: |
burritosatan posted...
I'm gonna stop you right here, because if you're trying to compare a human child to a wild/farm animal, it's not gonna hold any water. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hollow_shrine 05/17/19 12:21:35 PM #69: |
You see, what pro-choice people apparently aren't telling you is that we're all actually just worshipers of Darkseid, and if abortion access is completely democratized, Thanos will snap and Omega Beams will jump out of every cell phone and start deleting unborn children from their wombs.
So we can see this "anti-life" verbiage is actually spot on. Have a good morning and remember. Darkseid is. --- Ignorance is a choice https://imgtc.com/i/7UnK3hx.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Top Crusader 05/17/19 12:22:32 PM #70: |
CableZL posted...
No one should be writing legislation based on religious beliefs. I realize that a lot of pro-life groups are religion based but I never understood that. The recent laws everyone is talking about are pretty crazy, but I'm generally against abortion because I think murdering babies is usually not cool, not because of God or Jesus or Moses or something. *shrugs* --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Rinku_ 05/17/19 12:23:37 PM #71: |
The Top Crusader posted...
CableZL posted...No one should be writing legislation based on religious beliefs. I'm sorry you think abortion involves murdering a baby. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gobstoppers12 05/17/19 12:28:18 PM #72: |
_Rinku_ posted...
I'm sorry you think abortion involves murdering a baby. It does. That is its sole purpose. Abortion does nothing other than end the life of a growing child inside its mother's womb. It kills a baby. It's not like gun ownership, where ~95% of people who own a gun have never shot/killed anything with it. 100% of abortions have been performed with the intention of purposely slaying a growing baby. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Duncanwii 05/17/19 12:31:07 PM #73: |
The 11 year old needs to just get the abortion anyway. Her life overshadows the "life" of the thing the rapist put inside her.
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_Rinku_ 05/17/19 12:32:54 PM #74: |
Gobstoppers12 posted...
_Rinku_ posted...I'm sorry you think abortion involves murdering a baby. It's not a baby. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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burritosatan 05/17/19 12:33:21 PM #75: |
Gobstoppers12 posted...
burritosatan posted... Woah - I asked about how you feel about the killings of innocent animals. Are you insinuating that all life is sacred? Or are some animals more important than others to you? Who gets to make that call? --- Same sex marriage is not gay privilege, its equal rights. Privilege would be something like gay people not paying taxes. Like churches don't ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dragonblade01 05/17/19 12:35:21 PM #76: |
The purpose of abortion is not to kill the fetus. The purpose of abortion is to remove the fetus from the mother. The fact that the former follows the latter in the vast majority of cases does not alter the purpose of abortion.
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scorpion41 05/17/19 12:37:02 PM #77: |
When you have liberals advocating for late term abortions, like in New York, youre going to have conservatives pushing to the other extreme, which is a ban on the procedure almost entirely. I dont know why people didnt foresee this coming.
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_Rinku_ 05/17/19 12:40:14 PM #78: |
scorpion41 posted...
When you have liberals advocating for late term abortions, like in New York, youre going to have conservatives pushing to the other extreme, which is a ban on the procedure almost entirely. I dont know why people didnt foresee this coming. "Liberals" weren't advocating for late term abortions in New York. When you say that, you are spreading a lie. New York simply wanted it to be legal for non-viable late term pregnancies to be viable. That way women aren't dying of sepsis due to a literal rotting corpse inside of them. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pikachupwnage 05/17/19 12:41:05 PM #79: |
burritosatan posted...
No one should have the right to tell anyone what they can or cant do with their own body. Man or woman. Except when it affects others. We shame, shun or expel those who are filthy and unhygienic. Like Vaccines. If we gave a fuck whether people wanted Vaccines or not we might still have smallpox going around. Flu outbreaks would be worse. Various diseases would be more common. Or smoking. It expels harmful smoke and thus its not just about your body. Those around you can be harmed. Also this is quite problematic for universal health care because you effectively foot the bill for someone disregarding their own health and strain overall medical resources. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Were_Wyrm 05/17/19 12:45:47 PM #80: |
What if the man making the law has a vagina?
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Kami_no_Kami 05/17/19 12:52:48 PM #81: |
Gobstoppers12 posted...
_Rinku_ posted...Nah. It's potential to be a human at best as a fetus. You still sound like an edgy kid to me... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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burritosatan 05/17/19 12:54:42 PM #82: |
pikachupwnage posted...
burritosatan posted...No one should have the right to tell anyone what they can or cant do with their own body. Man or woman. Except when it affects others. 1. If you get the vaccine then what's there to worry about 2. Sure second hand smoke is bad I agree, but you cant ban smoking entirely. Just force people to do it on their own property. Also this is quite problematic for universal health care because you effectively foot the bill for someone disregarding their own health and strain overall medical resources. I've been saying forever we need a mandatory fat tax unless you get a physical from your doctor starting you are not in the obese category. --- Same sex marriage is not gay privilege, its equal rights. Privilege would be something like gay people not paying taxes. Like churches don't ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dragonblade01 05/17/19 12:55:59 PM #83: |
pikachupwnage posted...
burritosatan posted...No one should have the right to tell anyone what they can or cant do with their own body. Man or woman. We do indeed give up some degree of control when allowing what goes in our bodies. But not regarding what is taken from our bodies. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pikachupwnage 05/17/19 1:00:38 PM #84: |
1. If you get the vaccine then what's there to worry about
Because those with compromised immune systems(Those with cancer, AIDS, the extremely young/old etc.) often cant get them or the effectiveness is lost. And because vaccines are not 100% assurances you cant get that disease. Its highly unlikely but a vaccinated person can still catch that disease. Herd immunity is important. 2. Only allowable if no other non smokers live in the same property/you can regularly prove you smoke in place/manner that allows no-negligible amounts of smoke to be exposed to non smokers. Also still the issue with state funded/universal healthcare. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scorpion41 05/17/19 1:19:16 PM #85: |
_Rinku_ posted...
scorpion41 posted...When you have liberals advocating for late term abortions, like in New York, youre going to have conservatives pushing to the other extreme, which is a ban on the procedure almost entirely. I dont know why people didnt foresee this coming. If thats the reason they gave, then its bullshit because you can go up to a month before the corpse causes an infection. Two things will happen depending on the month, preterm labor if its before 39 weeks and term delivery after 39 weeks. Theres almost no reason to justify a third trimester abortion unless its something that will immediately affect the mother. --- PSN: scorpion_4160 Currently Playing: NCAA 14, Darksiders series(PS3) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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burritosatan 05/17/19 1:25:42 PM #86: |
scorpion41 posted...
_Rinku_ posted...scorpion41 posted...When you have liberals advocating for late term abortions, like in New York, youre going to have conservatives pushing to the other extreme, which is a ban on the procedure almost entirely. I dont know why people didnt foresee this coming. Would you be cool with a dead corpse inside you fornan entire month??... --- Same sex marriage is not gay privilege, its equal rights. Privilege would be something like gay people not paying taxes. Like churches don't ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scorpion41 05/17/19 1:27:42 PM #87: |
burritosatan posted...
scorpion41 posted..._Rinku_ posted...scorpion41 posted...When you have liberals advocating for late term abortions, like in New York, youre going to have conservatives pushing to the other extreme, which is a ban on the procedure almost entirely. I dont know why people didnt foresee this coming. Im saying the human body takes care of the issue itself. --- PSN: scorpion_4160 Currently Playing: NCAA 14, Darksiders series(PS3) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Rinku_ 05/17/19 1:45:50 PM #88: |
scorpion41 posted...
burritosatan posted...scorpion41 posted..._Rinku_ posted...scorpion41 posted...When you have liberals advocating for late term abortions, like in New York, youre going to have conservatives pushing to the other extreme, which is a ban on the procedure almost entirely. I dont know why people didnt foresee this coming. Holy shit no it doesn't. You need to learn before you run your mouth. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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burritosatan 05/17/19 1:46:04 PM #89: |
scorpion41 posted...
burritosatan posted...scorpion41 posted..._Rinku_ posted...scorpion41 posted...When you have liberals advocating for late term abortions, like in New York, youre going to have conservatives pushing to the other extreme, which is a ban on the procedure almost entirely. I dont know why people didnt foresee this coming. Yaaa... the same way it can literally fail and die during a natural childbirth to a healthy baby... the body isnt infallible --- Same sex marriage is not gay privilege, its equal rights. Privilege would be something like gay people not paying taxes. Like churches don't ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Duncanwii 05/17/19 1:47:53 PM #90: |
scorpion41 posted...
burritosatan posted...scorpion41 posted..._Rinku_ posted...scorpion41 posted...When you have liberals advocating for late term abortions, like in New York, youre going to have conservatives pushing to the other extreme, which is a ban on the procedure almost entirely. I dont know why people didnt foresee this coming. Remember the guy who said that rapes are consensual because the body would have ways of shutting "legitimate" rapes down? You sound just like that guy right now. --- Hello, I like video games and comedies. Let's be friends. :) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Foppe 05/17/19 1:48:24 PM #91: |
Perhaps women should vote in some more females into those kind of positions?
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DevsBro 05/17/19 1:49:27 PM #92: |
burritosatan posted...
pikachupwnage posted...burritosatan posted...No one should have the right to tell anyone what they can or cant do with their own body. Man or woman.Except when it affects others. That's a whole lot of people getting a fat tax. It's amazing how few people realize what a borderline case looks like. --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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burritosatan 05/17/19 1:51:39 PM #93: |
DevsBro posted...
burritosatan posted...pikachupwnage posted...burritosatan posted...No one should have the right to tell anyone what they can or cant do with their own body. Man or woman.Except when it affects others. Overweight and obese are different, but if that many peoples are borderline obese then the fat tax makes sense. Besides, it's the same as smoking cigarettes. You can literally change anytime you want to --- Same sex marriage is not gay privilege, its equal rights. Privilege would be something like gay people not paying taxes. Like churches don't ... Copied to Clipboard!
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jborgan 05/17/19 2:01:24 PM #94: |
scorpion41 posted...
burritosatan posted...scorpion41 posted..._Rinku_ posted...scorpion41 posted...When you have liberals advocating for late term abortions, like in New York, youre going to have conservatives pushing to the other extreme, which is a ban on the procedure almost entirely. I dont know why people didnt foresee this coming. The human body does not just take care of a dead fetus inside the body. This type of misinformation is exactly why the US has the highest number of pregnancy related mortality rates regarding first world countries. The dead fetus needs to come out via a medical procedure, which is why you have liberals "advocating" for late term abortions. It's so she doesn't die, not because she decided she didn't want a baby at the last minute. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DevsBro 05/17/19 2:05:30 PM #95: |
burritosatan posted...
DevsBro posted...burritosatan posted...pikachupwnage posted...burritosatan posted...No one should have the right to tell anyone what they can or cant do with their own body. Man or woman.Except when it affects others. I know. And here's what a case that is borderline between overweight and obese looks like: --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scorpion41 05/17/19 2:11:54 PM #96: |
_Rinku_ posted...Duncanwii posted...
You really need to learn how the human body works before calling someone out. Makes you look less stupid. burritosatan posted... scorpion41 posted...burritosatan posted...scorpion41 posted..._Rinku_ posted...scorpion41 posted...When you have liberals advocating for late term abortions, like in New York, youre going to have conservatives pushing to the other extreme, which is a ban on the procedure almost entirely. I dont know why people didnt foresee this coming. Never said the body was infallible. If that were the case thered be hardly any reason for doctors and specialists. But, the odds of the body not ejecting the dead fetus before infection sets in is slim to none. --- PSN: scorpion_4160 Currently Playing: NCAA 14, Darksiders series(PS3) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Rinku_ 05/17/19 2:18:28 PM #97: |
scorpion41 posted...
_Rinku_ posted...Duncanwii posted... Yeah, that's why maternal mortality is so high in this country, because the body just almost always does that. Seriously, actually listen to the multiple people telling you how dead wrong you are. You are actively making society worse by spreading your misinformation. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Catgirl Fondler 05/17/19 2:59:34 PM #98: |
Pro-lifers proving once again to be shit-tier people?
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Sackgurl 05/17/19 3:08:22 PM #99: |
The bigger lie is the idea that anything liberals do is driving the conservative push for total abortion bans; it's been explicitly stated by the AL bill author that her motivation is to be the one to force a new SCOTUS case on Roe v Wade. Same is true for the others. This is happening now because there's a clear conservative majority.
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IfGodCouldDie 05/17/19 3:08:54 PM #100: |
burritosatan posted...
DevsBro posted...burritosatan posted...pikachupwnage posted...burritosatan posted...No one should have the right to tell anyone what they can or cant do with their own body. Man or woman.Except when it affects others. You realize you can fall into the obese category even, with minimal body fat, right? --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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