Board 8 > The Yu-Gi-Oh mobile game is way more fun than it should be.

(+) Yeah! (+)

It's such a fun nostalgia trip. I've been playing for two days and I already have a solid deck, lots of cards, and plenty of the in-game currency to spare without having to spend a dime. I just got into a PvP duel as Joey Wheeler vs. Kaiba and we spent the entire duel spamming fully voice-acted taunts at each other. I laid a trap, outright told him I had laid a trap, and he didn't believe me. I guess it was hard to take Joey's Brooklyn-accented warning seriously.

Also being able to open booster packs without having to spend actual money is making my inner 10-year old lose his mind.
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Have you played Legacy of the Duelist? I'm all about that these days.
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Which game it is?
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Duel Links? Yeah its really good.
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How can people like this? I mean it is a heavy watered down version of the real game.
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I haven't played duel links, but given what's happened to Yu-Gi-Oh a watered down version is honestly more appealing than the real deal. I know I enjoyed the hell out of getting to play slower duels again in Legacy of the Duelist.
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I admit the main game now is so complicated with an infinite amount of effects and card combos. Maybe that is why this Links game is doing nice.
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It's simpler yeah, but in a good way. It also goes way faster. Great to just pick up and go. Though I stopped playing since they introduced synchros so I fear they'll be ditching the first sentence of that pretty soon.
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Blue Eyes ULTIMATE DRAGON
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Yeah, it's hardly complicated but quick and easy, and I like collecting lots of cards without having to...well, pay money. Deckbuilding is always fun, and with the reduced LP total it doesn't feel like the ridiculous meta combo decks are quite as necessary to win.
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I didn't knew people gave a damn about Yu-Gi-Oh in 2019.

I loved Yugioh back in the day and when I started playing Duel Links it was super old-school nostalgia... now they've added XYZ and Syncho and it's just as bad as real Yugioh. Fun while it lasted.

Wait xyz is in there now too? Ugh
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Safer_777 posted...

How can people like this? I mean it is a heavy watered down version of the real game.

that's great because yu-gi-oh has become WAY too complicated

if this shit ever got synchros and pendulums and shit it would fall apart just like yu-gi-oh
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As someone who's been out of the YGO loop for like...a decade, Synchro seems simple enough. No idea what XYZ is though.
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Synchros were ok but they ended up getting too broken imo, like originally they just seemed to be a new way to summon things but they started stacking crazy effects on them that made them basically invincible in some situations. Also it became a lot like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBIsZlV1jHk" data-time="

i mean YGO was already kind of like that but it's gotten 100x worse in the past few years
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KamikazePotato posted...

As someone who's been out of the YGO loop for like...a decade, Synchro seems simple enough. No idea what XYZ is though.

XYZ are actually much simpler than synchro.
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That video is gold

So far my strategy has been to spam simple Warriors + Equip Cards with Joey Wheeler and honestly I haven't had much trouble doing alright in PvP against Synchro stuff
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XYZ is just "combine multiple monsters of the same level to get a more powerful monster of that level with special effects."
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is it synchro or XYZ that uses its own material as "ammo" to use for effects/to not die
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Also I dont know why considering I disliked Jaden as a kid, but he's growing on me now. His quotes are so bad they're great

GET YOUR GAME ON
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ZenOfThunder posted...

is it synchro or XYZ that uses its own material as "ammo" to use for effects/to not die

That's XYZs.
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Jaden's music is snazzy. Most of the music in the game is great imo.
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I like XYZ summons since you can splash them into any deck. Not sure how I feel about the pronunciation of its name though...

I haven't even tried Pendulum Summons yet (I'm only at GX in LotD), but those seem really weird.
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I've seen some Link cards and they look like they belong in a totally different game. No defense stat and arrows pointing on the sides like it's Tetra Master or something.

I don't think I've seen any Pendulum cards yet.
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mnkboy907 posted...

I've seen some Link cards and they look like they belong in a totally different game. No defense stat and arrows pointing on the sides like it's Tetra Master or something.

I don't think I've seen any Pendulum cards yet.

Link cards are a part of Pendulum summoning and it's the dumbest shit ever.
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I was told they introduced link cards as a way of limiting pendulum summons or something.
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Emeraldegg posted...

I was told they introduced link cards as a way of limiting pendulum summons or something.

Nah, they're a key part of how they work in general.
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Links have nothing to do with pendulums, lol.
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MikeTavish posted...

Links have nothing to do with pendulums, lol.

Wait, for real? Maybe I'm confused <_< what are links then?
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presumably they have to do with dueling
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Waluigi1 posted...

MikeTavish posted...

Links have nothing to do with pendulums, lol.

Wait, for real? Maybe I'm confused <_< what are links then?

Yeah it's the newest summoning mechanic/type of monster. I hate it.
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Yeah it is very complicated too. And basically Links go with ALL types of decks so you are forced to have them now.
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IIRC, there's now an extra deck monster zone so you can normally only have one extra deck monster out at a time. But if you have a link monster pointing at a zone you can summon extra deck monsters there.
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Safer_777 posted...

Yeah it is very complicated too. And basically Links go with ALL types of decks so you are forced to have them now.

Yikes. Sounds like an abandon ship scenario. Glad that hasn't made it into the mobile game yet.
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Oohh I do think I remember reading about those now! I had just got them mixed up with the pendulum shit because I've never played with either of those myself. I do remember reading about how Links were created because the game had become such an unbalanced mess that something drastic had to be done.

Can't say I'm surprised Konami doesn't know how to run a card game either.
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Yeah that sounds like the gist of what I was told.
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Well it depends. Card Games need to evolve right? But in Yugioh it was always about the effects and the combos. So as time goes by they have to up their game it seems. I mean some cards have like 5 different effects! I mean they should take it down a noth.
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My issue with yugioh has always been the no limit on special summoning rule. A lot of the combos revolve around just filling your board with monsters that you'd normally have to tribute summon for, but utilizing special summons just completely bypasses it. It's no fun to play against a fur hire deck in duel links because turn 1 you end up with a full enemy monster zone with a huge beatstick and ways to negate your removal cards, in addition to being able to destroy either 1 of your monsters or spell/traps via effects, all done through special summoning. That's a big gripe with how xyzs and synchros worked to me as well, since those are all done via special summoning, you're only limited by the cards you've got to work with.
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@Emeraldegg This is to speed up the game thus you can play more matches. I mean if you are good and manage to special summon a lot of monsters in 1 turn and the opponent hasn't anything good to counter you, you deserve to win.
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yeah you need to work on countering your opponent before you get a turn c'mon git gud
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I don't mind the silly combos too much, but cards with 4-5 effects each is dumb. Something's wrong when I have to squint to read a card. Especially when my opponent plays a bunch I've never seen before and I have to spend a few minutes in the middle of the duel reading them.
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I've never played yugioh- somehow it always sounds both more basic and more convoluted than mtg
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Safer_777 posted...

@Emeraldegg This is to speed up the game thus you can play more matches. I mean if you are good and manage to special summon a lot of monsters in 1 turn and the opponent hasn't anything good to counter you, you deserve to win.

So, the winner is decided by coin flip you mean?

banananor posted...

I've never played yugioh- somehow it always sounds both more basic and more convoluted than mtg

Sounds about right lol.
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Waluigi1 posted...

Safer_777 posted...

@Emeraldegg This is to speed up the game thus you can play more matches. I mean if you are good and manage to special summon a lot of monsters in 1 turn and the opponent hasn't anything good to counter you, you deserve to win.

So, the winner is decided by coin flip you mean?

Welcome to YGO

I actually think the mobile game is slightly more fair - the reduced LP means that you don't *need* BS combos to get ahead and stay ahead, as a few more 'normal' monsters can get the job done just as quickly
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Safer_777 posted...

@Emeraldegg This is to speed up the game thus you can play more matches. I mean if you are good and manage to special summon a lot of monsters in 1 turn and the opponent hasn't anything good to counter you, you deserve to win.

I think there are good and bad points in this stance. I agree that more matches faster is part of what's so appealing with DL. I also agree for the most part with the "if you can't stop the opponent's combo, you deserve to lose." The caveat to me is, did you even have the chance to stop the combo in the first place in a way that determines your skill? Fur hire specifically as an example is a turn 1 full board combo. For starters, you need to do both of the following to stop it:
A) Even be able to go before the opponent which is luck-based
B) Draw a monster negation card in your opening hand, which is luck-based

If you fail to do either of these beyond-your-control things, you end up with an enemy board of:
A 2700 beatstick that can change your attack targets to itself and thus protect the squishier bits via direct attack
A monster that can negate any spell/trap card OR any other type of effect (including monster cards, no man-eater bugging this chick)
A monster that can either destroy any spell/trap card or any monster card, either way opening you up for a OTK

Neither of these things determine your skill, and yet they often times decide the outcome against such decks. In no world should the opening coin flip determine the outcome of a game. Now, if we're talking maybe a combo like this that gets set up in like 4 turns, and you didn't draw what you needed? Hey, luck happens sometimes, maybe take a look at your deck and see how you can tweak it to draw the card you need more often. Deck building is a part of skill, no doubt. But even stuff like destiny heroes or blue eyes doesn't reach the level of stuff like fur hire and its ilk. At least, not when I played.
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Emeraldegg posted...

My issue with yugioh has always been the no limit on special summoning rule. A lot of the combos revolve around just filling your board with monsters that you'd normally have to tribute summon for, but utilizing special summons just completely bypasses it. It's no fun to play against a fur hire deck in duel links because turn 1 you end up with a full enemy monster zone with a huge beatstick and ways to negate your removal cards, in addition to being able to destroy either 1 of your monsters or spell/traps via effects, all done through special summoning. That's a big gripe with how xyzs and synchros worked to me as well, since those are all done via special summoning, you're only limited by the cards you've got to work with.

I had a game today where I summoned five monsters in a single phase, and I already had two on the field when I started.

That was pretty balling.
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KamikazePotato posted...

Waluigi1 posted...

Safer_777 posted...

@Emeraldegg This is to speed up the game thus you can play more matches. I mean if you are good and manage to special summon a lot of monsters in 1 turn and the opponent hasn't anything good to counter you, you deserve to win.

So, the winner is decided by coin flip you mean?

Welcome to YGO

I actually think the mobile game is slightly more fair - the reduced LP means that you don't *need* BS combos to get ahead and stay ahead, as a few more 'normal' monsters can get the job done just as quickly

Oh I know. Lol
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This is how the game is. I mean there are monsters that are immune to all effects now. Come on now. And even these you can still destroy them outside of battle too!
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Oh my god Synchro Summon decks take so fucking long to duel against, that last enemy turn took 5 minutes
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