Current Events > the UK's first meat free butchers is opening

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Weve already got a dairy-free cheese shop and now Sainsburys is jumping on the vegan trend opening a meat-free butchers. Billed as a completely vegan butchers the stunt coincides with World Meat Free Week this June. The pop-up butchers will look the part, sausages in hanging in the window and all, but everything inside from the bangers to the mince to the ribz will be entirely plant-based.

Youll be able to sample some of the supermarkets meat-free range for free as well as pick up some boneless bites, which will be weighed and wrapped the traditional way, for a bargain price. And if you need some tips on vegan cooking, the in-store butcher will be on hand with recipe advice.

https://londontheinside.com/the-uks-first-meat-free-butchers-is-coming/

ofc its in east london. thanks sainsburys
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Zurkon posted...

Neat. Some of those meatless products are pretty good. Id like to start eating more of that stuff tbh.

i think it would be good to have a few meat free meals per week
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Cucks

nice
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GucciGang posted...

Cucks

its the way to live in 2019
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And if you need some tips on vegan cooking, the in-store butcher will be on hand with recipe advice.

"Pour lots of gravy on it"
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bump
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I always like those kinds of products, but I feel like I enjoy them less when I'm invited to compare them to actual meat.
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Parappa09 posted...

GucciGang posted...

Cucks

its the way to live in 2019

As if I got modded for that

How was this not a thing in Brighton? Everything there has vegan options
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GucciGang posted...

Parappa09 posted...

GucciGang posted...

Cucks

its the way to live in 2019

As if I got modded for that

lmao

maybe it hit too close for home for someone

FvP posted...

How was this not a thing in Brighton? Everything there has vegan options

east london outdoes brighton in weird pretentious concepts
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Is East London bad? I stayed near that West Ham arena once.
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scar the 1 posted...

Is East London bad? I stayed near that West Ham arena once.

I lived near there for a year. It's not the best.

scar the 1 posted...

Is East London bad? I stayed near that West Ham arena once.

some parts of east london are terrible. i grew up there.

im surprised you stayed near the stadium - thats pretty much one of the most deprived areas in the whole of the UK

was it the hostel near the pub on the corner?
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Parappa09 posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Is East London bad? I stayed near that West Ham arena once.

some parts of east london are terrible. i grew up there.

im surprised you stayed near the stadium - thats pretty much one of the most deprived areas in the whole of the UK

was it the hostel near the pub on the corner?

It wasn't a hostel, it was a hotel. Sadly I don't remember exactly where, but it was kind of in between the West Ham station and the once before. Quite a wide, straight road, to get to West Ham stadium/station we went left on it from the hotel, then left again after a while. Lots of car repair shops.
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scar the 1 posted...

Parappa09 posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Is East London bad? I stayed near that West Ham arena once.

some parts of east london are terrible. i grew up there.

im surprised you stayed near the stadium - thats pretty much one of the most deprived areas in the whole of the UK

was it the hostel near the pub on the corner?

It wasn't a hostel, it was a hotel. Sadly I don't remember exactly where, but it was kind of in between the West Ham station and the once before. Quite a wide, straight road, to get to West Ham stadium/station we went left on it from the hotel, then left again after a while. Lots of car repair shops.

ahhh right, i thought you meant by upton park station where west ham stadium was at

where you stay isnt too bad actually, its not the best but definitely not the worst
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Parappa09 posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Parappa09 posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Is East London bad? I stayed near that West Ham arena once.

some parts of east london are terrible. i grew up there.

im surprised you stayed near the stadium - thats pretty much one of the most deprived areas in the whole of the UK

was it the hostel near the pub on the corner?

It wasn't a hostel, it was a hotel. Sadly I don't remember exactly where, but it was kind of in between the West Ham station and the once before. Quite a wide, straight road, to get to West Ham stadium/station we went left on it from the hotel, then left again after a while. Lots of car repair shops.

ahhh right, i thought you meant by upton park station where west ham stadium was at

where you stay isnt too bad actually, its not the best but definitely not the worst

It's right before they moved to the new stadium. And now that I'm looking closer, you're actually right. It was between Upton Park and Plaistow. I remember because we had no idea how Plaistow was supposed to be pronounced before we got there (and my friends never learned because they didn't listen in the tube announcements). IIRC our hotel was on the A124. But it's some years ago now so I'm not sure.

EDIT: Yup, I found it, it's the Excel hotel on the A124 (Barking road?). It's a really shitty hotel but the area seemed very like, good-bad. So I wasn't sure if your East London comment was more about hipsters or trashy area or something else
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Selling/eating vegan stuff is fine and all but calling it a "meat free butcher" just sounds rather dumb to me.

Can't wait for the grain free bakery.

So what do they just sell a bunch of jackfruit or something?
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specialkid8 posted...

Can't wait for the grain free bakery.

There are plenty of grain-free bread recipes
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Ah, so a vegetable store staffed by liars.
You didn't "butcher" anything!

That said, mainly robbing, I don't really care.
Good for the vegans.
I have tried a vegan burger, the Impossible Burger I believe.
Could immediately tell it wasn't meat.
Wasn't awful mind you, but I prefer meat.
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Won't somebody think of the plants!?!?!?

i eat meat almost every meal with tons of veggies and would never not want to eat meat.
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There's a vegan butcher a few blocks from my house, they make good stuff.

The idea of a vegan butcher might not make sense if you haven't eaten a variety of vegan meats, but they're made with different textures, flavors, and shapes. Each tailored for different cooking methods. Examples of stuff at the vegan butcher:
-Pepperoni
-Ginger Beef
-Chicken Breasts
-Bacon
-Ham
-Sausage rolls
-Burgers
-Steak
-Deli cuts

You use them like normal. They're just crafted and cooked instead of killed and carved.

It's a little spendy so I don't have it super often. From what I've seen animal meat is more costly these days. I'm cheap and I like beans and lentils so veg meat is a treat
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Shouldn't it be called something else?
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Machete posted...

Shouldn't it be called something else?

What specifically?
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Doctor Foxx posted...

Machete posted...

Shouldn't it be called something else?

What specifically?

I honestly don't know but a meat-free butcher isn't exactly butchering stuff per se, so the term seems like a misnomer.
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Machete posted...

Doctor Foxx posted...

Machete posted...

Shouldn't it be called something else?

What specifically?

I honestly don't know but a meat-free butcher isn't exactly butchering stuff per se, so the term seems like a misnomer.

Wikipedia says that Merriam-Webster says:
A butcher is a person who may slaughter animals, dress their flesh, sell their meat, or participate within any combination of these three tasks.
It's true that a meat-free butcher can't really slaughter anyone, or dress the flesh, but if you can be a butcher just by selling meat, then it makes sense that you're a meat-free butcher if you sell substitutes that is supposed to taste like meat. Why invent a new word for it when it's such a related category?
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scar the 1 posted...

Machete posted...

Doctor Foxx posted...

Machete posted...

Shouldn't it be called something else?

What specifically?

I honestly don't know but a meat-free butcher isn't exactly butchering stuff per se, so the term seems like a misnomer.

Wikipedia says that Merriam-Webster says:
A butcher is a person who may slaughter animals, dress their flesh, sell their meat, or participate within any combination of these three tasks.
It's true that a meat-free butcher can't really slaughter anyone, or dress the flesh, but if you can be a butcher just by selling meat, then it makes sense that you're a meat-free butcher if you sell substitutes that is supposed to taste like meat. Why invent a new word for it when it's such a related category?

You don't need to invent a word. All sorts of stores sell vegan meat and don't classify their employees as butchers. It's just a marketing stunt.

I had a vegan cheese pizza once. It wasn't bad. But I can't do tofu. No matter how much it looks like real sausage or pepperoni it just tastes weird.

Or I could always just do vegan pizza my way - pizza sauce and mushrooms only.
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Doctor Foxx posted...

Machete posted...

Shouldn't it be called something else?

What specifically?

A vegetable stand?
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Grischnak posted...

You don't need to invent a word. All sorts of stores sell vegan meat and don't classify their employees as butchers. It's just a marketing stunt.

Of course it is, but it's also a descriptive category.
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How are you a butcher if you aren't butchering anything?
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DeadBankerDream posted...

How are you a butcher if you aren't butchering anything?

You're preparing different cuts of meat

Just happens to be plant meat not animals
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scar the 1 posted...

Grischnak posted...

You don't need to invent a word. All sorts of stores sell vegan meat and don't classify their employees as butchers. It's just a marketing stunt.

Of course it is, but it's also a descriptive category.

Not really. I've never met anyone classified as a butcher who didn't actually, you know, butcher meat and I work with meat so I kind of meet a lot of those people. Hell, using your definition I am in fact a "butcher", but....I'm not. I'd never refer to myself as that because it would be a lie and actual butchers would laugh at me if I claimed something like that.

Doctor Foxx posted...

DeadBankerDream posted...

How are you a butcher if you aren't butchering anything?

You're preparing different cuts of meat

Just happens to be plant meat not animals

Plant "meat"? Different "cuts"? Now you're just using words improperly. Vegan meat substitutes are made with soy and stuff. They aren't actually "meat" and they don't have different "cuts". It's more like baking a cake then butchering an animal.

Grischnak posted...

Not really. I've never met anyone classified as a butcher who didn't actually, you know, butcher meat and I work with meat so I kind of meet a lot of those people. Hell, using your definition I am in fact a "butcher", but....I'm not. I'd never refer to myself as that because it would be a lie and actual butchers would laugh at me if I claimed something like that.

Nothing of what you said contradicts what I said. Do you also object to the term data mining because it's not actual mining in a mine? Or farming in video games because it's not actually tending a farm? Words take on broader meanings in different contexts. When it's a store/department that specifically deals with products mimicking those in a butcher shop, guess which word is descriptive? Butcher.
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Look, if you don't want to eat meat, then fine. But then quit trying to make your substitute look and taste like real meat.
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East London is horrific
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This shit makes someone a butcher the same way me making sandwiches makes me a chef.
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scar the 1 posted...

EDIT: Yup, I found it, it's the Excel hotel on the A124 (Barking road?). It's a really shitty hotel but the area seemed very like, good-bad. So I wasn't sure if your East London comment was more about hipsters or trashy area or something else

ahhh right, yeah that area is bad in the sense that it's a poor and deprived area

to be honest there are some nice parts of east london but it's further towards central london. haggerston, shoreditch, de beauvoir town. even some parts of stratford are nice post-regeneration
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also for the record i have no problem with the term meat free butchers
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scar the 1 posted...

Nothing of what you said contradicts what I said. Do you also object to the term data mining because it's not actual mining in a mine? Or farming in video games because it's not actually tending a farm? Words take on broader meanings in different contexts. When it's a store/department that specifically deals with products mimicking those in a butcher shop, guess which word is descriptive? Butcher.

Ehh? Data mining? Mining = "delve into (an abundant source) to extract something of value, especially information or skill.". Data mining as a term makes perfect sense. Farming is just slang. There isn't anything wrong with slang. This isn't slang though. Calling people who sell vegan meats butchers is not some popular thing people say. I've literally never seen it before this topic and I'm 99.999% sure it's not because my experience is limited. People simply do not say that. This isn't a thing. It's just a marketing stunt. As we already agreed.

Any topic remotely relating to veganism never ceases to trigger ce

GucciGang posted...

Cucks

That words doesnt mean what you think it means.
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shoreditch is terrible too
and stratford
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Grischnak posted...

Ehh? Data mining? Mining = "delve into (an abundant source) to extract something of value, especially information or skill.". Data mining as a term makes perfect sense. Farming is just slang. There isn't anything wrong with slang. This isn't slang though. Calling people who sell vegan meats butchers is not some popular thing people say. I've literally never seen it before this topic and I'm 99.999% sure it's not because my experience is limited. People simply do not say that. This isn't a thing. It's just a marketing stunt. As we already agreed.

People didn't say data mining before someone coined it. Merriam-Webster describes mining as the process or business of working a mine, similar to how it describes butcher as someone who does any combination of slaughter, dressing meat or selling it. Analogously, the words "mining" and "butcher" take on a more general meaning when you put the respective descriptors "data" and "meat-free" in front of them. The reason you haven't seen this before is because it's recent. Similarly, machine learning is not actually learning in a psychological or pedagogical sense, AI has very little to do with actual intelligence, proving things colloquially is entirely different from logical proofs, and so on.

And most of all, the word "butcher" in this context is actually very descriptive, since it specifies exactly what kind of vegan foods you'll expect to find there.
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I really need to eat some vegetarian/vegan meals. I fucking love Thai and can smack down some tofu pad thai, I just find chicken/pork to be more tasty and usually the same price
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