Board 8 > Politics Internment Topic 226

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Bidens comment sucks because of the pattern.

Why cant Biden speak to a little girl without remarking on her looks?

An extremely annoying part of it all is that his strongest supporters are the former Hillary diehards. Like, how is this your mans?
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Trump admits he would probably take information from a foreign government again if it was offered in 2020:
https://twitter.com/abc/status/1138936855573999616?s=21
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

without remarking on her looks?

Was the full quote not listed? I don't see anything about looks.
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Nrrr posted...

https://twitter.com/heqt1c/status/1138930534095249413

Too lazy to look up this poll to see if they asked about the other candidates but interesting.

Also just wanna point out that isn't even the most awful thing Joe Biden said this week... (and the jakyl interpretation is how I also read that.) when Joe Biden said that republicans will start being cool again once Trump is gone, a part of my soul died. No fucking way is Biden acceptable if he thinks that.

Is it wrong that the first thing I think when reading this isn't anything about what the poll means, but that the tweet writer doesn't know how math works? With the way they did it, 156% of people who approve or strongly approve of Trump would vote him over Bernie >_>
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About her looks isnt really accurate, I agree

Its just sad that he immediately thinks of her as a sexual creature first and foremost
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Thats silly. Obviously hey you better watch out for the boys with this one is an old man way of praising her looks.
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Now this is an even more pointless debate but I honestly feel like he would have said that about any 13-year old girl with brothers
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Oh we're on the same page with that.

I think the confusion is that you guys think I'm saying Joe wants to fuck this girl, but what I'm really saying is how fucked it is he seems to only see value in her appearance.
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In better news, House Oversight (Dems + Amash) voted to hold Barr and Ross in contempt. Unless they come to an agreement, there should be a full House vote but who knows when.
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xp1337 posted...

In better news, House Oversight (Dems + Amash) voted to hold Barr and Ross in contempt. Unless they come to an agreement, there should be a full House vote but who knows when.

I thought I saw that this vote was strictly along party lines, and that Amash explicitly voted against?

Reg posted...

xp1337 posted...

In better news, House Oversight (Dems + Amash) voted to hold Barr and Ross in contempt. Unless they come to an agreement, there should be a full House vote but who knows when.

I thought I saw that this vote was strictly along party lines, and that Amash explicitly voted against?

Two different votes.

There was a full House vote yesterday that was a party line vote. That vote was empowering House Judiciary to be able to go to federal court and petition a judge to force Barr and McGahn to comply with the subpoenas they have defied. It also allows for other committees to go to court to enforce subpoenas without requiring a full House vote provided they have the blessing of leadership.

Today's vote in House Oversight was to hold Barr and Ross in contempt over their defiance in regards to the Census matter. Amash voted with the Dems on this one.
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Bidens comment sucks because of the pattern.

Why cant Biden speak to a little girl without remarking on her looks?

An extremely annoying part of it all is that his strongest supporters are the former Hillary diehards. Like, how is this your mans?

Biden is my, like, 4th to last choice out of the 20some and easily my last out of the major names.

I still think his comment was harmless and is being blown out of proportion
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Nrrr posted...

https://twitter.com/heqt1c/status/1138930534095249413

Too lazy to look up this poll to see if they asked about the other candidates but interesting.

Also just wanna point out that isn't even the most awful thing Joe Biden said this week... (and the jakyl interpretation is how I also read that.) when Joe Biden said that republicans will start being cool again once Trump is gone, a part of my soul died. No fucking way is Biden acceptable if he thinks that.

The tweet is wrong, and they group both "strongly approve" and "somewhat approve" together at 15% when the image itself shows the if they approve of Trump the number is 10% (5% for the first box and 15% for the second).

Sanders - 10%
Biden - 9%
Warren - 5%
Buttigieg - 4%
Booker - 3%
Harris - 3%

https://morningconsult.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/190618_crosstabs_POLITICO_RVs_v1_cxy7nwRpto.pdf
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Trying to imagine the brain hoops these voters must pretzel themselves into for these results

Nrrr posted...

Trying to imagine the brain hoops these voters must pretzel themselves into for these results

Who is least likely to take away my livelihood?
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Bernie's speech today was very good at comparison between the rise of facism in the 1930s and FDR and our current situation. Loved the bits about how every major gain for workers in on our lifetimes has been decried as socialism. I like the Economic Bill of Rights framing as well.

https://twitter.com/Adry_Curvy/status/1138906204103536641?s=19
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https://twitter.com/justinamash/status/1139158567553044480?s=21
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LordoftheMorons posted...

https://twitter.com/justinamash/status/1139158567553044480?s=21

A group of writers could work over the weekend and still not craft a better response tweet than this.
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The Lying Secretary of Lies is leaving at the end of the month! No more SHS!
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How do you know thats not a lie?
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Jakyl25 posted...

How do you know thats not a lie?

Because it wouldn't make a difference if she was lying here or not. Either she leaves, and no more SHS press conferences, or she stays and no more SHS press conferences anyway cause she doesn't do them anymore.
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I say we get a new press secretary who answers every question by flipping a coin.

Reporter: Should President Trump be impeached?

*Press secretary flips coin and gets heads*

Press secretary: Yes.

President Trump, by video link: You're fired.
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Office of Special Counsel (not Mueller, OSC is a permanent office) finds that Kellyanne Conway repeatedly violated the Hatch Act and recommends her removal from federal office.

WH asked them to rescind that recommendation (before the release of this report) and they declined.
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xp1337 posted...

Office of Special Counsel (not Mueller, OSC is a permanent office) finds that Kellyanne Conway repeatedly violated the Hatch Act and recommends her removal from federal office.

WH asked them to rescind that recommendation (before the release of this report) and they declined.

So what's next? WH formally rejects the advice of OSC?
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Incidentally, I read an article a while back shedding light on a similar procedure used between the government of Australia and the Queen as of the 80s. Presumably the same procedure remains in place in all the countries over which the Queen reigns.

The procedure is, before a minister issues formal advice to the Queen, the minister gives informal advice. The Queen can then advise that the advice will be accepted or suggest that it be changed. If the latter, the minister usually makes the changes recommended by the Queen and then issues the formal advice based on the changes which the Queen then follows. But if the minister refuses to make the change requested and issues the original advice as formal advice, the Queen is all but bound by convention to follow the formal advice.

But in principle, it is advice and the Queen could reject it.....which would trigger a constitutional crisis. I suppose the situation here is similar, except since we have a written constitution, it's clear that the president can reject the advice of any of his advisers.
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Suprak the Stud posted...

LordoftheMorons posted...

https://twitter.com/justinamash/status/1139158567553044480?s=21

A group of writers could work over the weekend and still not craft a better response tweet than this.

I feel like I'm dumb but I do not get the joke

Paratroopa1 posted...

Suprak the Stud posted...

LordoftheMorons posted...

https://twitter.com/justinamash/status/1139158567553044480?s=21

A group of writers could work over the weekend and still not craft a better response tweet than this.

I feel like I'm dumb but I do not get the joke

It was Don Jr's response to Rob Goldstone when he pitched Jr the Trump Tower meeting
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The most ridiculous thing about that whole episode is that the Trump team believed that Russia had a crown prosecutor. Russia has not been a monarchy in name since 1917.
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Trump is finally facing some consequences for his behavior...!:

https://twitter.com/scott_h_rome/status/1139361863395938304?s=21

Possibly not fit to own a liquor license, but why not let him run a country
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LordoftheMorons posted...

Trump is finally facing some consequences for his behavior...!:

https://twitter.com/scott_h_rome/status/1139361863395938304?s=21

Possibly not fit to own a liquor license, but why not let him run a country

That's just a ruling that they are allowed to challenge. Not a very high burden.
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Well, the claim seems to be that Trump can't be charged for his crimes and that we're "not there yet" on impeachment despite the fact that he's pretty clearly committed impeachable offenses, so this still seems to be the most progress that's been had in actually holding him accountable for something!
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LordoftheMorons posted...

Well, the claim seems to be that Trump can't be charged for his crimes and that we're "not there yet" on impeachment despite the fact that he's pretty clearly committed impeachable offenses, so this still seems to be the most progress that's been had in actually holding him accountable for something!

Well, there's a reason the Trump International in Vegas does not have gambling. Probably the Nevada regulators won't give a license to someone with a history of running casinos into bankruptcy!
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In the interest of clarity (and lawsuit avoidance), I am not suggesting that Nevada ever denied a license to Trump or any related entities or people. I am expressing an opinion that Trump may have decided not to seek a Nevada gaming license because he expects to be denied.
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so uh, how about those increased US - iran tensions
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

so uh, how about those increased US - iran tensions

Definitely concerning, especially with Bolton there, but if I absolutely had to guess no action outside tightening sanctions/trying to pressure Europe to go along with it and abandon the Iran deal too.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

so uh, how about those increased US - iran tensions

https://politics.theonion.com/bleeding-john-bolton-stumbles-into-capitol-building-cla-1834847900
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Looking forward to Warren dominating that first debate:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/14/politics/first-democratic-debate-stages-2020/index.html
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HeroicSpiderPig posted...

Looking forward to Warren dominating that first debate:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/14/politics/first-democratic-debate-stages-2020/index.html

I fear that is entirely too many people for anyone to dominate.

Edit: although holy shit, shes really the only person on her day whos even IN this bitch. She actually could crush it.
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She'll do great but honestly without any if the other frontrunners I don't think she'll stand to gain much. It seems like a much bigger opportunity for Booker and Beto.
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Oh man, as much as I dont really care for any of the three of them, Harris and Buttigieg are gonna look great out there dunking on Biden all night
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On Warrens night, every time De Blasio opens his mouth, the rest all need to just start yelling at him
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Biden wiped the floor with Paul Ryan in the VP debate in 2012
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LordoftheMorons posted...

Biden wiped the floor with Paul Ryan in the VP debate in 2012

Paul Ryan is an idiot
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Huge missed opportunity with Warren and Biden not in the same debate. Oh well, perhaps Gillibrand will take up the fight.

Also not really pleased with Warren kind of on an island there, could work to her advantage I suppose, but I'm afraid her performance might get lost because it's almost like a "kids table" debate aside from her (and maaaaybe Beto)
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How long does Hickenlooper last in Day 2 before going after Bernie ~*~SOCIALISM~*~
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CelesMyUserName posted...

How long does Hickenlooper last in Day 2 before going after Bernie ~*~SOCIALISM~*~

first opportunity
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Having that many people in a debate doesn't work well. It is really conducive to Trump's attention hogging style of debating.

"You can't insult your way to the presidency."
"Well, let's see here. I'm at 42, and you're at 3."
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These debates will be an incredible farce and the American people will gravitate towards whichever candidate is the most outrageous because we have the attention span of goldfish. Warren benefits the most by far from this arrangement if people actually watch her night, which they may skip because it has literally nobody else important. The candidate Warren must look out for is Gabbard, who will go after her weak points (campaign and candidate are very very bad on foreign policy and never talk about their plan for healthcare) if she ever is given the chance to. Probably gets two questions about gay marriage instead. The second night the real question is going to be if the other candidates are actually trying to win or not, and we will be able to tell by whether they go after Biden or Bernie.

Bernie has a major advantage this time that he didn't have last time, which is that there isn't a contested Republican primary going on at the same time. All those Bernie/Trump voters are free to vote for Bernie in the Democratic primary.
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