Board 8 > [VGMC] Discussion 3: Final Effort/In Final, (End All)2, Final Showdown/Last Duel

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At the time I'm composing this, the second semifinal is too close to call. Because it might end in a tie or at the very least I won't confirm the victor until after 10:00, I've decided having one day to react to the results and to hype ourselves for the final isn't a bad thing.

Regarding the poll, please keep in mind that the choice should be a topic everyone can come up with meaningful contributions toward, and most of the contributions should be recognizable by someone besides yourself.

Links:
Bracket - http://www.bracketmaker.com/tlist.cfm?tid=471679
Contest info - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17rEeB1_oYWgryWzIxOaZXw2a381gKGnMegjHCG_2OTQ
Discussion and results thread - look up, fool.
Trivia playlist - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLW9O9mntH1RFShDoszX9eb5Nl2fQAgK0r

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Bonus match 1:

Halo 3 - One Final Effort

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Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story - In the Final

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBLp-3Rw_u0" data-time="

Bonus match 2:

Fire Emblem: Fates - End of All (Land)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4F7MhS1ATU" data-time="

Mass Effect 3 - An End Once and For All

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5JvbD2Zc9I" data-time="

Bonus match 3:

Donkey Kong '94 - The Final Showdown...?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtbKA1WreJY" data-time="

Lufia II - The Last Duel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsIXvHteoK0" data-time="

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Easy vote form:
One Final Effort / In the Final
Fire Emblem / Mass Effect
The Final Showdown / The Last Duel

Please do not vote in the second match with only the track title. That'll be a pain to count.

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Song lyric trivia:

And you're not gonna take
What they've got to give
And you're not gonna let 'em take your will to live
Because they've taken enough
And you've given them all you can give
And luck won't save them tonight
They've given you a reason to fight
And all the storms you've been chasin'
About to rain down tonight
And all that pain you've been facin'
About to come into the light

Final note -- I may post tomorrow's topic slightly early in order to be able to post it myself. It will still end at the usual time.

I should add, since it wasn't previously in the post, that the finals will be between Revenger and EXSPHERE.
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Ar nosurge: Ode to an Unborn Star - Class::EXSPHERE_NOSURGE;
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xp1337 posted...

Ar nosurge: Ode to an Unborn Star - Class::EXSPHERE_NOSURGE;

Should I take that as an advance vote?
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...Oh, I didn't think of that. Nah, I should be around.

it was my snarky way of confirming the previous match results
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Great, Revenger vs Exsphere, my preferred final match of the top 8.

Deciding a winner is going to be very hard though.
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One Final Effort
End of All (Land) reluctantly
Last Duel
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Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story - In the Final
Fire Emblem: Fates - End of All (Land)
Lufia II - The Last Duel
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Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story - In the Final
Fire Emblem: Fates - End of All (Land)
Lufia II - The Last Duel
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Halo 3 - One Final Effort
Mass Effect 3 - An End Once and For All
Donkey Kong '94 - The Final Showdown...?
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In the Final
Fire Emblem
The Last Duel... I had no idea until just now that there was a version of this in the original Lufia game. (not nearly as good, though)

Revenger vs. EXSPHERE is my preferred final among the top four! ... however, the final four is my 100% un-preferred final four among the top eight.... _
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Halo 3 - One Final Effort
Fire Emblem: Fates - End of All (Land)
Lufia II - The Last Duel

Oh, I guess if we're really counting this...

Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story - In the Final
Mass Effect 3 - An End Once and For All
Lufia II - The Last Duel
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One Final Effort
An End Once and For All
Final Showdown
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Halo 3 - One Final Effort
Fire Emblem: Fates - End of All (Land)
Donkey Kong '94 - The Final Showdown...?

Don't want to disparage ME3, but that's, like, no contest right there.
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xp1337 posted...

Oh, I guess if we're really counting this...

The topic's also doubling as a last minute discussion topic. So, uh, how 'bout that final match-up?
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azuarc posted...

So, uh, how 'bout that final match-up?

just one victory away from redemption
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good job guys this is the worst final of all time by a pretty big margin. i don't know why i bother anymore.
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EXSPHERE would be a top 2 champion easily!

lets not invoke the horror of vgmc3 so casually
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Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story - In the Final
Fire Emblem: Fates - End of All (Land)
Donkey Kong '94 - The Final Showdown...?

vgmc3 finals aren't even close to the bottom at this point. at least one of the songs in it was really good. which has only happened once since... vgmc8. even just ranking winners, Reset might be at the bottom but Sieze the Truth is really close and i can't even remember what won last year, i don't think that was too great either.
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Halo 3 - One Final Effort
Fire Emblem: Fates - End of All (Land)
Lufia II - The Last Duel

As for rankings, I guess End of All (Land) > The Last Duel > One Final Effort > The Final Showdown...? > And End Once and For All > In the Final

Most of these are pretty close for me. End of All (Land) is the only one that I think should decidedly rank above the rest. Everything else is a bit of a tossup.

I want to say last year was ELFERIA... but then I stop and think that was two years ago.

fake edit: oh i cheated and looked it up. sunshine coastline. that's a good song! (tho not as good as hidra heteromycin which it beat)
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emil karma was 2 years ago actually. ELFERIA (losing to Megalovania) was 3 years ago.
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oh

lmao my memory really did break a few years ago. i could tell you the winner up to like vgmc8 and then it's just a blur >_>

Also: ELFERIA won didn't it? It was just controversial because Megalovania had votes DQ'd and that's why azuarc put the message he's had in for the final four about new voters certifying they've listened to both.
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I thought last year's final was pretty awesome...one of my favorite final matches of any VGMC, even though I wasn't there to vote in it. This year's final isn't quite as good, IMO, though I certainly love EXSPHERE.

I say the worst final was probably VGMC 10.... Megalovania vs. Despair of Elferia. I guess? There haven't been any finalists that I truly dislike.... there was one that lost by one vote in a tiebreaker in the semi's.... (hint: it's from VGMC 11)
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One Final Effort
End of All (Land)
The Final Showdown...?

One Final Effort
Fire Emblem
The Final Showdown

Five excellent songs, and also In the Final.

Haste_2 posted...

There haven't been any finalists that I truly dislike.... there was one that lost by one vote in a tiebreaker in the semi's.... (hint: it's from VGMC 11)

*glares*

only reason it even lost was because I was out on both days

Halo 3 - One Final Effort
Fire Emblem: Fates - End of All (Land)
Lufia II - The Last Duel
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In the Final
Fire Emblem
The Last Duel

One Final Effort
Fire Emblem
The Last Duel



Final match is pretty good; I really like EXSPHERE, so I cant complain.
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In the Final
Fire Emblem
The Last Duel

One Final Effort
End of All (Land)
The Final Showdown

Both semis went against my votes but I don't really object to either finalist.
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In The Final
End Of All (Land)
The Final Showdown....?

In The Final > End of All > One Final Effort > The Final Showdown > The Last Duel > An End Once and For All
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In the Final
End of All (Land)
The Last Duel

In the Final
Mass Effect
The Final Showdown
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In the Final
Fire Emblem
The Last Duel
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I'm kind of disappointed we didn't get a Servants/Infestation bonus match-up, but hey, I'll gladly give 6 brand new songs a listen!

I'll vote later in the day...
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In the Final
Fire Emblem
The Final Showdown

In the Final
Fire Emblem
The Last Duel

Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story - In the Final
Fire Emblem Fates: Conquest - End of All
Lufia II - The Last Duel
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Xuxon posted...

good job guys this is the worst final of all time by a pretty big margin. i don't know why i bother anymore.

Nah, nah, at least Revenger is good. VGMC7 was the worst by far.
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In the Final
Mass Effect
The Final Showdown

really tight on that third match
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TsunamiXXVIII posted...

Xuxon posted...

good job guys this is the worst final of all time by a pretty big margin. i don't know why i bother anymore.

Nah, nah, at least Revenger is good. VGMC7 was the worst by far.

11 is the closest we've had to a terrible finals. I like FCDH enough to consider that a bit unfair.

Definitely nothing wrong with 7's finals.
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In the Final
Mass Effect
The Last Duel

Lots of bad songs today. In the Final is the only one I really like. An End Once and For All is cool, but I think I like the Extended Cut version better.
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One Final Effort
Fire Emblem
The Last Duel

After returning to this contest with extreme pessimism I'm glad to have been proven wrong; I'd be happy with either remaining song winning the Big Championship. Sure neither are among my "favorites" but I'd still say they're both pretty great which is good enough.

On the other hand I'm sorry but I gotta say all these bonus matches today feel really weak imo. Seems like the only decently good song is the Halo one if you ask me. Whoops
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azuarc posted...

In the Final
Mass Effect
The Final Showdown

really tight on that third match

Good In The Final

Not so good final

(yes I am stealing your vote)
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In the Final
Fire Emblem
The Last Duel

I-just-realized-why-these-songs-were-chosen-today day. Also anti-hype day.

Match 1:

-Ah... Nothing like a good rendition of the original Halo theme. Sure, it lacks punch and depth, but... Okay, I'll admit the piano and the beat are not really helping it much since they make it sound way cheesier (it was the perfect opportunity to enhance it with more epicality, especially since this is Halo 3 we're talking about), but it still has good things going for it.

-I've talked about In the Final in the past with more detail (particularly in the first round of the contest), but I don't remember much, other than saying this sounds so dramatical, but in a good way. And... yeah, that's pretty much it.

Match 2:

-Upon listening to End of All (Land), I gotta admit I miss the earlier rounds when we had a wide array of quality songs throughout, but this contest I think we destroyed the opportunity to have a super awesome set of retirees. I know you can't have an ideal world (that was proven two matches ago), but overall I was a little underwhelmed with the average quality of this contest's songs in comparison to last year's beasts. Ironically enough, I'm not saying all of this because End of All (Land) is great (it wasn't as good as other rivals it had), but it was good enough this time to remember me about what I'm just saying. The semi-drumrolls it has are glorious, though.

-As for this Mass Effect song, I thought it was the awesome one with a melancholic piano and an ominous loud sound similar to a boat's whistle that gave you the idea of "everything is doomed now"... But no. This is an okay song (I'm not much into slow songs). The ending also had me like: "...Huh? What now? Why did it get so loud and vanished just like that?".

Match 3:

-I remember this song from way back in the VGMotD's days. It's an interesting chiptune with bold choices; however, I rank it low not because of its execution but because it's not my personal cup of tea. It's also a song that makes me say: "Hey, that sounds pretty passionate for a song with suspensive dots and a question mark for what it's actually asking!".

-"Um... Generic SNES RPG caution theme?". Yes at first, but it then develops into a more fleshed-out, adventurous tune, so it's not bad.

Rankings were rather easy this time around since every match was in itself easy (it was also pretty average, like a Round 1 day or something):

This Is the End (of the Land) > It's Time [for the] Last D-D-D-Duel! > Mamma Mia, the Final Is Coming! > (In Chief's voice [if he has one]:) Care For a Cheesy, Final Piano Lesson? >> It's the Final Countdown... >> Yeah But This Is the End (Once and For All)
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I am going out for the evening, so I will be posting the finals shortly. As noted in the thread, they will remain open until 10 tomorrow.
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