Board 8 > English Literature Mafia Topic 5: Don't Forget to Read the Forward

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Yes, Sultan. You hounded me for days lol
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guys I literally had a conversation with Chris about how I didn't support the request for lists

attacking me for putting a list with only scare on it is pretty silly

You guys made like over 500 posts while i was sleeping...

Also who did Scare replace.

ScareChan posted...

My posts to start the game were most similar to my posts I started the game where reg came back

Take that as you will

I have zero context for this whatsoever

Scare is Eaed, and you may still be the lyncher leader

Does that really mean i owe you though?
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turbopuns3 posted...

guys I literally had a conversation with Chris about how I didn't support the request for lists

attacking me for putting a list with only scare on it is pretty silly

By the way, your jab of that particular post being low effort given the effort I've shown in my posts is absurd and I repeat this because you didn't address it.
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Does that really mean i owe you though?

You said it not me.
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Puns only having 1 read that is a newly replaced scare idk if he was being funny or serious

it was a mild form of civil protest

DoomTheGyarados posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

guys I literally had a conversation with Chris about how I didn't support the request for lists

attacking me for putting a list with only scare on it is pretty silly

By the way, your jab of that particular post being low effort given the effort I've shown in my posts is absurd and I repeat this because you didn't address it.

turbopuns3 posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

I find it absurd beyond measure that you would say my approach to this game is low effort when I woke up this morning and posted two posts full of reactions and reads.

is this to me?

I wasn't calling your approach to the game as a whole low effort. I was just saying that particular post was an excellent return on investment

Ah thank you, I missed that.

Why is return on investment a bad thing for a bustling town member posting between work tasks to have? I am being efficient.
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So Chris, you gonna explain the point of all those lists?
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Yes.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Yes.

When?
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Lopen, i am slightly put off that oyu are trying to discredit my opinions because they are not made out of everyones full content so far this game.

Chris asked everyone to give a top 5. I did. end. You were at the top of my list and instead of defending the actions i spoke about in the earlier time of this day you chose to discredit me as a person in this game.

am i on you again yet?

##unovte
##vote: Lopen

I am now.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

chris do you have the pocket-size cliff notes of why ben is scum handy?

In my wall of posts I noted I liked 5tar's thinking on Ben but I disagreed because I thought HB was scum.

Buuut HB's been doing some earnest defending of people this topic that made me waffle on that more and thus Ben's grr defense of HB looks like TMI

Again, I had established why HB WAS CONFIRMED TOWN well before HB was in the limelight/had a vote on him. So no there is no way I was defending HB just to look good. So you and 5tar are straight up wrong here?
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Lopen sure had to force you into that vote
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Why is return on investment a bad thing for a bustling town member

It's not a bad thing, obviously.

My point was simply that if you analyze both sides here, that return is higher for a scum member than a town member.

To which you responded "maybe for mere mortals like you but I am Chris and I am Mega Town Force of Nature"

To which I responded "ok fair I look forward to seeing you solve everything"

I felt the conversation was over at that point

RogueNoble posted...

Lopen sure had to force you into that vote

The rage.

And its not like I wasn't voting him before, champ.
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I had a typo.

##unvote
##vote: Lopen
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Obellisk posted...

Lopen, i am slightly put off that oyu are trying to discredit my opinions because they are not made out of everyones full content so far this game.

I am not discrediting your opinions exactly.

I am saying town would show some humility and probably not feel the need to post a list of 5 if they hadn't read much of the game yet or didn't have 5 solid suspicions.

Posting a list at all seems scummy. Like you're doing it to avert suspicion moreso than to be helpful.

Please continue to try to build the case though this is how we find if you're defensive misguided town or scum. This case is still weak. Read the topics.
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What do you think of luis, Lopen?
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Luis's logic has seemed mostly sound to me. He hasn't posted a lot but I think what he has has for the most part made sense and has had enough focus to seem like stuff a town member would post. I lean town on him. I also inherently trust his ability to identify scum to a degree so I don't want to lynch him early unless I'm dead certain he's scum.
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benjamin3740 posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

chris do you have the pocket-size cliff notes of why ben is scum handy?

In my wall of posts I noted I liked 5tar's thinking on Ben but I disagreed because I thought HB was scum.

Buuut HB's been doing some earnest defending of people this topic that made me waffle on that more and thus Ben's grr defense of HB looks like TMI

Again, I had established why HB WAS CONFIRMED TOWN well before HB was in the limelight/had a vote on him. So no there is no way I was defending HB just to look good. So you and 5tar are straight up wrong here?

Point out why he was CONFIRMED TOWN again for me?
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Thanks!

I don't have everyone's super happy fun time list. Please everyone supply me a list and just trust that if nothing else I will make it interesting.
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Lopen posted...

I am saying town would show some humility and probably not feel the need to post a list of 5 if they hadn't read much of the game yet or didn't have 5 solid suspicions.

Posting a list at all seems scummy. Like you're doing it to avert suspicion moreso than to be helpful.

And stifling opinions, no matter how misguided they might be to you, in itself is anti-town and scummy.
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Obellisk posted...

Lopen posted...

I am saying town would show some humility and probably not feel the need to post a list of 5 if they hadn't read much of the game yet or didn't have 5 solid suspicions.

Posting a list at all seems scummy. Like you're doing it to avert suspicion moreso than to be helpful.

And stifling opinions, no matter how misguided they might be to you, in itself is anti-town and scummy.

Not true.
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Stifling misguided opinions is how to play mafia well, actually. A bunch of chickens running around with their heads cut off unable to reach a consensus because they haven't digested the game and formed a good basis for their suspicions is exactly how scum forces bad lynches.

Someone in your position, should you be town, until having read the game well enough to obtain a solid grasp on it, should cede to someone you trust as town for guidance rather than being stubborn and furthering your agenda, because your agenda is based off of next to nothing, currently.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Obellisk posted...

Lopen posted...

I am saying town would show some humility and probably not feel the need to post a list of 5 if they hadn't read much of the game yet or didn't have 5 solid suspicions.

Posting a list at all seems scummy. Like you're doing it to avert suspicion moreso than to be helpful.

And stifling opinions, no matter how misguided they might be to you, in itself is anti-town and scummy.

Not true.

He's stiffling my opinions of himself.

I think i can have a pass here.
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I'm actually stifling your opinions of everyone. I said you should not have posted a list.
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Yeah, you came at me for my list because you were on top though. Lets not play games here.
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I came at you because I was on top and you have made no attempt to push for my lynch and your initial post against me was weak (and I'm not the only one who said that)

Then you revealed, well, you haven't read the game. So now I'm coming at you because only scum would post a list if they haven't read much of the game, because if you haven't read the game your suspicions are not valuable to town.
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Lopen for the record if you are scum this game I am going to be upset because I feel like I am vibing with you so well.
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I think you are scum.

You think that because i didn't read your chat with X that I dont have a full opinion of you this game. This has no bearing on anything. I thought you were scum before and till given evidence you aren't, you be scum, you want me to find more fuel for the fire? Don't worry, i'll be doing an ISO. But something tells me that seeing what you say to someone else isn't going to sway my opinion right now.

You don't have to like it.
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The feeling is mutual.

But I'm sure we'll know by tomorrow, one way or the other.
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Ok I'm here for maybe two hours it depends on when my friend gets out of work. I don't have time to read the entire new topic that popped up since this morning. But that's pretty cool. I skimmed page 8 and 9 here. It seems like Scare has replaced in for Eaed. And Puns thought Eaed was scum but was waiting to confront Eaed until he appeared. Scare doubts the Miller.

People agree with me on Red, I nailed him last game it would be cool to nail him this game too.

What's up with Lea? I know Chris voted her suggesting she could do better and SBell thought she wilted a little under pressure. Does that sum it up or is there more someone wants to point me to?
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Lopen strikes me as a guy who just wants to make it through day1
He responds to people responding to him (mostly), but when he does I do feel that he cares about figuring out the game... if not from a tiny starting point.
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Lopen posted...

and you have made no attempt to push for my lynch

I dont push for lynches on day 1 of ANY game, but especially a game with this much overbearing power. You kidding me? I know my place at the table.

I'll place my votes when i find waht i think is scum. If others want to join in on the fun, be my guest.
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htaeD posted...

Lopen strikes me as a guy who just wants to make it through day1
He responds to people responding to him (mostly), but when he does I do feel that he cares about figuring out the game... if not from a tiny starting point.

Through D1 or just live in general? I think these imply very different things.
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pez, death, official top 5 lists please.
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pezloco posted...

htaeD posted...

Lopen strikes me as a guy who just wants to make it through day1
He responds to people responding to him (mostly), but when he does I do feel that he cares about figuring out the game... if not from a tiny starting point.

Through D1 or just live in general? I think these imply very different things.

The former
The things he said imply he will put in more effort day2. Granted I have to take him at his word for this.
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htaeD posted...

Lopen strikes me as a guy who just wants to make it through day1

This isn't wrong. I think relatively speaking my day 1s are my weakest day by far. I much do better with actual data on the table.

Of course ideally I'd like to make it through night 1 too.

That being said I don't really feel like I have been half assing this game at any point beyond the first topic.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

pez, death, official top 5 lists please.

I like lists,

Top scum reads Red > Ult, Chris, Sultan sorry don't have a 5th.

Top 5 town Tom > Puns > Corrik, Death, Lea

Since Lea has votes I want to single her out here. I think she has seemed genuine and earnest. The earnest part in particular. She doesn't seem to be trying to misdirect anything. I'd read her as stronger town if I wasn't aware of the fact that I recognize similar thought processes to my own. I know that makes me biased towards liking her and therefore associating her with town.
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Scare's actions definitely haven't changed my mind that he's scum.

His attack on me is almost strictly just "it is not impossible for puns to be scum"

He kinda attacked my attacks of him but in doing so he kinda missed some blatant context which leaves much to be desired compared to his typical town play

turbopuns3 posted...

Scare's actions definitely haven't changed my mind that he's scum.

His attack on me is almost strictly just "it is not impossible for puns to be scum"

He kinda attacked my attacks of him but in doing so he kinda missed some blatant context which leaves much to be desired compared to his typical town play

Can you point to specific post numbers? I'm way behind and have barely skimmed the most recent stuff.
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I think the assessment that Sultan is very town is an accurate one upon reflection of THE LISTS
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Town puns suspected like the whole game and worked through everyone as recent as last game

Here he only has eyes for me

Curious, no?
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You couldnt infer my list, Chris?
Fine, but keep in mind that its temporary since I am still reading up and I dont have a real order other then that I like Scare the most out of these 5

Dowolf
Luis
Red
Cam
Scare
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