Board 8 > English Literature Mafia Topic 5: Don't Forget to Read the Forward

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RogueNoble posted...

I think Corrik is claiming miller

Apparently eaed didn't read the rules about replacing either in his actual inactivity.
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I read topic 1 and I think topic 2. But Im not current. What I did remember during my read

Lopen is scum
Dowolf is also scum. Maybe more scum than Lopen. He made like maybe 3 posts and each one I said "Okay this is scum"

I am giving town reads to both Pez and to Tom. Tom because of the read from Chris, I buy it pretty well that a Tom that is fresh out of water would not want to fuck with him. However If Tom is scum Chris is likely scum as well, because of how true that statement really is. Pez feels different from last game but it is in a more relaxed way that seems like he doesnt fear he has to worry about Tom which is good

Red is town. The way he gave his "Kill Chris if I die in such a fastion ect" or whatever it was felt very much like a Red who is worried for his death and trying to leave the roadmap for town

Ben had me worried and then he outright said "I know Im scum eager but pay no mind" and it froze me so I am not sure whats up with Ben

good vibe from Cam

Oh, I dont know if you guys know but @Camarija and @DoomTheGyarados I think you guys have played before. Doom is Achromatic, Cam is Frog on MU

thinking what other reads I had
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Love looks not with the eyes but with the mind and therefore is winged Cupid painted blind?

Hey, uh, dowolf sounds like an amazing lunch choice.
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Seriously like

The pressure made him claim. It obviously stands to reason the pressure was not due to his claim, as he hadn't claimed yet.

Have you been reading the game or are you just doing the red strategy and pretending to?

Also you did not vote me for that reason. You voted me as a countervote well before I said what he voted me for.

The case on him was that the outrage about me telling red to skip the game seemed faked. He cited so called important posts, but never actually acted on the post he pulled at my request in any sort of way himself, stretching any sort of credibility he had in claiming the post was actually important. With respect to my questions on why he was so upset about telling red to skip topic 1 he acted in a way that seemed like he was trying to give the "right answer" rather than an honest one. He also claimed that I should have reacted to his vote by apologizing and wringing my wrists, but there's no reason that that's inherently pro-town. He also tried to justify his vote by saying he thought I overreacted to pressure but I received no notable pressure from over what I'd already been receiving from you-- when I corrected him on that he made no effort to re-evaluate his position, only admitted he was wrong on it.

In fact, as a contrast, I thought your outrage seemed more normal-- overblown, because well, you're still 'rar mad' but the reasoning seemed more consistent. You'll note I haven't been pushing for your lynch but still think hb is a solid pick.
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Ah, Star. I actually kind of expected it to be you I replaced in for when the time came, I recall you saying you were struggling with keeping up

Have some free town points
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Hey scare why am I scum.
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Someone be a doll (not a tails doll scumwolf) and fill me in on important claims and stuff from last few pages, dont have a ton of time to read up at the moment
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At first I thought Dowolf was kinda towny because he wasn't very peppy, which I associate with his scum self, but just kind of weakly pawing at Ben all day is a poor look.
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Lopen posted...

Hey scare why am I scum.

I did not like really anything you did in topic 1 and 2

Also if you were town wouldnt you say "Why do you 'think' I am scum" and not 'why am I scum'

because of that I change my answer to "Your role pm"
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ScareChan posted...

Someone be a doll (not a tails doll scumwolf) and fill me in on important claims and stuff from last few pages, dont have a ton of time to read up at the moment

Puns is Miller
HB is Vanilla

Those are the only claims, unless you want to make up for Eaed lurking for 40 hours.
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A lot of people liked what I did in topic 2. Explain why they're wrong. What rubbed you the wrong way?
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##Unvote
##Vote: Scarechan

zzzz

If you actually read posts you'd know I only didn't vote because I felt it was unnecessary at the time (and because he's a deadly target bomb). If you want me on the voting log for him I can do a quick vote and unvote before the end of the day.
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I was struggling because I woke up to like 400 posts, then every time I got near caught up I got busy at work again and the posts piled up. I just read through it. It took literally hours. It probably wasnt worth it. You can read my suspicions though and just follow them if you dont want to read. Assuming hb and Ulti dont mind.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Lopen has no problem voting for me, Red, or Cam, but he hasn't voted for HB who he supposedly thinks is scum. There was also that nonsense about how skipping 400 posts and mentioning SK isn't a big deal.

This was part of it

I felt the way you went after ulti and the way you pulled off and talked about no lynch or how you would still vote Ulti it just didnt come off as a town mentality to me

The voting thing that caused a dirty read from cam I didnt like either, you know better

And if Iunderstood it right you made up a fake read to call Cam scum by saying he used to be a Basham which felt oppertunitic and scummy to me to fabricate

Also telling people not to read the topic in priciple is scummy as there was content there previously

Come to think of it the way HB responded to that wasnt the best either, and if you have been hounding him but not voting I can see you both being scum together
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You're right. As the main guy who pushed for his lynch obviously not voting him will dissociate me from the lynch. Great plays by Lopen to avoid suspicion.
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5tarscream posted...

I was struggling because I woke up to like 400 posts, then every time I got near caught up I got busy at work again and the posts piled up. I just read through it. It took literally hours. It probably wasnt worth it. You can read my suspicions though and just follow them if you dont want to read. Assuming hb and Ulti dont mind.

negatory bro, my reads are crisp based on 20% of the game

all I need
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Ulti looks like you have been playing nice right now and I think you are town thus far

give me your reads please
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ScareChan posted...

the way you pulled off and talked about no lynch

Lmao what. Maybe you should have skipped the first topic I don't even know what you were reading. You could get the same amount of insight from my posts just reading the voting logs if you think I "talked about no lynch"
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Who am I supposed to be voting, Chris?
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5tarscream posted...

No problem Sultan. You want to explain why you think Chris is scum over some of the other candidates or is this just posturing to show that youre not scared to call him out despite his rep.

5tarscream posted...

Though Sultan has since said he simply missed my post about Ben so maybe I can ask a different question.
Do you believe both Ben and SBell defended hb because they both legit think hes town and others are wrong or do you think one of them is likely scum and trying to look good early. Im sure you can predict the follow up question.

Okay first question. I genuinely think chris is kind of off thia game his reasoning for vote jumping is "Putting pressure" putting pressure on a person with 1 vote how treatening is that when their is what 11 needed to lynch someone? I mean yeah i also do want to let it be known im not afraid to press the big dogs like chris exsphally since he is supposed to be the best player to mafia and hasnt shown me he is town yet yeah he is definitely worth going back and looking on i advise people to stop just being like chris is so good lets not look at him kind of mentality

Also i can see where some of the protecting of hb has come in by people ive been back and forth on it myself, alot of people jumping on him for saying vanilla over villager is kind of silly exsphally when in the context that Hb was using was he wanted it to be obvious to everyone exsphally if someone didnt take the time to read 4 post of game introductions.

However some of the flavor meta is also silly since it was stated that not to take character flavor into consideration when deciding if someone is town or scum. Harry potter being a villager i mean yeah it could aound silly like why would a wizard be village well think about it in another context he is a preteen when the books start and ia faulted by basically needing to die to beat his villian

FLAVOR METTA ISNT GOOD as a true read on someone
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D1 of ohko mafia. It takes 1 vote to end day 1 early.

ScareChan posted...

And if Iunderstood it right you made up a fake read to call Cam scum by saying he used to be a Basham which felt oppertunitic and scummy to me to fabricate

Also you understood this incorrectly. What does a Basham have to do with reads?

Are you intentionally being ridiculous here? Like, what even is this post in general?
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Lopen posted...

Are you intentionally being ridiculous here? Like, what even is this post in general?

Just vote him

Lopen posted...

ScareChan posted...

And if Iunderstood it right you made up a fake read to call Cam scum by saying he used to be a Basham which felt oppertunitic and scummy to me to fabricate

Also you understood this incorrectly. What does a Basham have to do with reads?

Are you intentionally being ridiculous here? Like, what even is this post in general?

It read to me as you were saying that they were someone from earliar days when you played when they are in fact new to our community.
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I can understand the speculation but I think its worth considering that Chriss vote is rarely 1 vote or seems. Hes like a pied piper or maybe a shepherd would be a better metaphor

##Unvote

##Vote: Scare

You should have signed up for the main player list instead of inheriting this cursed slot.
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I did sign up for main playerlist

I was asked to be a replace to make room for you all
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Scare are you seriously going to replace in and build your case on Lopen making a comment about a basham brother? Thats your best read so far?

No, his real issue was how he was with Ulti to start the game
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Oh okay. So you're speed reading in a way where you're not actually absorbing the game if you thought Basham had anything to do with that and was not just a stupid reference (my interactions with Tom should've made that clear) to WWE's Danny Basham's alter ego The Damaja in a weird way to make fun of the guy's name.

I'm going to ignore your so called suspicions until you actually catch up then. Please take your time. But not too much time. Good lord though. If anyone proves my point of just skipping some of the early fluff if you're pressed for time you did it splendidly with that incoherent mess of an interpretation of what happened in topic 1.
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I think Scare might be a Serial Killer
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Then you should maybe make that point instead of this confusing nonsense.
Is this why Ulti was so happy to see you? Are you scum buddies?

I ask because if I was scum Ulti and Scare replaced in as my teammate over Ed Id be pretty happy too.

Im going to sleep. Hopefully I dont wake up to 400 pages of time wasting

RogueNoble posted...

I think Scare might be a Serial Killer

I am the Serial Killer. You can stop searching for it now and search for scum.
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Alright, let's leash Corrik. There's a lot of scum in this game that needs to be taken out.

Scare, in the interest of time I'd rather you just play in real time and answer/ask questions and such. Such as, what is your role?
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Hey scare are you scum should i be voting for you?
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RogueNoble posted...

Alright, let's leash Corrik. There's a lot of scum in this game that needs to be taken out.

Scare, in the interest of time I'd rather you just play in real time and answer/ask questions and such. Such as, what is your role?

Oh are you actually scum?
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Break in work whoo.

I see we have a Scare, always nice to have a Scare.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

ScareChan posted...

Ulti looks like you have been playing nice right now and I think you are town thus far

give me your reads please

Scum reads are Pez, Tom, and Lopen. Pez and Lopen I've covered already, but when people post giant lists like Tom did at the end of last topic I tend to assume it's fake scum activity. Cam talked about lost scum and pocketing well before he should have if he was town.

Scummy but not totally sure, need more info: Lea, Chris. Lea's vote pattern is so, so bad and it's just naturally hard for me to trust Chris before a scan. It may not be 5 years ago but that dude's cleverness has not left him.

Town reads: HB, Sultan, Corrik, Puns, you.

Sultan is my #1 town read. Dude could not be more obvious, and newbie scum isn't going to sit there and vote for Chris and Corrik.

I think HB is town and his lynch train was garbage. I'm using that to make reads, more or less.

I was going to do a fun post and call out how bad you were in real time last game and flip your lists but I already have pez and Tom as town
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