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I4NRulez
06/28/19 9:46:06 PM
#101:


Good on her. I hope she gets off scott free.

If she didn't all that would have happened was she would have been killed and people would be like "OMG we need to figure out how to stop things like this from happening"
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Ruvan22
06/29/19 1:46:02 PM
#102:


The Admiral posted...
If you're at the point of turning in your husband's guns because you fear he might kill you, it's probably time to move out and leave him.


Did you not read the OP/article?
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FarFromFields
06/30/19 8:34:41 PM
#104:


ArmieBuff posted...
There should be kind of exemption for stuff like this when you feel your life or others are threatened.

I know this comparison is a stretch, but if I disarm an attacker, it's not considered theft.
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darkjedilink
07/02/19 8:24:37 AM
#106:


ArmieBuff posted...
There should be kind of exemption for stuff like this when you feel your life or others are threatened.

There is no reason for her to feel threatened, though. The dude is literally in jail, and the cops were going to be taking his guns legally.
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Ruvan22
07/02/19 10:59:50 AM
#107:


darkjedilink posted...
ArmieBuff posted...
There should be kind of exemption for stuff like this when you feel your life or others are threatened.

There is no reason for her to feel threatened, though. The dude is literally in jail, and the cops were going to be taking his guns legally.


Again, he was being released the next day (Joseph Irby was spending one day in jail at the time, accused of ramming into her car after a June 14 divorce hearing) and had already rammed her car with his. You genuinely think there "is no reason for to feel threatened"?

On top of this the article states "Federal law prohibits people under a domestic violence restraining order from possessing guns, but it's up to local law enforcement to enforce it" - the guns may not have been taken/surrendered for some time.
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darkjedilink
07/02/19 11:06:52 AM
#108:


Ruvan22 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
ArmieBuff posted...
There should be kind of exemption for stuff like this when you feel your life or others are threatened.

There is no reason for her to feel threatened, though. The dude is literally in jail, and the cops were going to be taking his guns legally.


Again, he was being released the next day (Joseph Irby was spending one day in jail at the time, accused of ramming into her car after a June 14 divorce hearing) and had already rammed her car with his. You genuinely think there "is no reason for to feel threatened"?

On top of this the article states "Federal law prohibits people under a domestic violence restraining order from possessing guns, but it's up to local law enforcement to enforce it" - the guns may not have been taken/surrendered for some time.

Yes, I genuinely feel that there is no way to feel threatened by a guy who is in jail.
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_Matchabuu_
07/02/19 11:16:37 AM
#109:


I4NRulez posted...
Good on her. I hope she gets off scott free.

If she didn't all that would have happened was she would have been killed and people would be like "OMG we need to figure out how to stop things like this from happening"


Yup.
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FarFromFields
07/02/19 12:33:04 PM
#110:


darkjedilink posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
ArmieBuff posted...
There should be kind of exemption for stuff like this when you feel your life or others are threatened.

There is no reason for her to feel threatened, though. The dude is literally in jail, and the cops were going to be taking his guns legally.


Again, he was being released the next day (Joseph Irby was spending one day in jail at the time, accused of ramming into her car after a June 14 divorce hearing) and had already rammed her car with his. You genuinely think there "is no reason for to feel threatened"?

On top of this the article states "Federal law prohibits people under a domestic violence restraining order from possessing guns, but it's up to local law enforcement to enforce it" - the guns may not have been taken/surrendered for some time.

Yes, I genuinely feel that there is no way to feel threatened by a guy who is in jail.

>reading comprehension
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darkjedilink
07/02/19 12:48:15 PM
#111:


FarFromFields posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
ArmieBuff posted...
There should be kind of exemption for stuff like this when you feel your life or others are threatened.

There is no reason for her to feel threatened, though. The dude is literally in jail, and the cops were going to be taking his guns legally.


Again, he was being released the next day (Joseph Irby was spending one day in jail at the time, accused of ramming into her car after a June 14 divorce hearing) and had already rammed her car with his. You genuinely think there "is no reason for to feel threatened"?

On top of this the article states "Federal law prohibits people under a domestic violence restraining order from possessing guns, but it's up to local law enforcement to enforce it" - the guns may not have been taken/surrendered for some time.

Yes, I genuinely feel that there is no way to feel threatened by a guy who is in jail.

>reading comprehension

No, I read it perfectly. I'm trying to figure out how him being released the day after she busted into his house and stole his stuff means she had a right to bust into his house and steal his stuff.
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Ruvan22
07/02/19 1:13:15 PM
#112:


darkjedilink posted...
FarFromFields posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
ArmieBuff posted...
There should be kind of exemption for stuff like this when you feel your life or others are threatened.

There is no reason for her to feel threatened, though. The dude is literally in jail, and the cops were going to be taking his guns legally.


Again, he was being released the next day (Joseph Irby was spending one day in jail at the time, accused of ramming into her car after a June 14 divorce hearing) and had already rammed her car with his. You genuinely think there "is no reason for to feel threatened"?

On top of this the article states "Federal law prohibits people under a domestic violence restraining order from possessing guns, but it's up to local law enforcement to enforce it" - the guns may not have been taken/surrendered for some time.

Yes, I genuinely feel that there is no way to feel threatened by a guy who is in jail.

>reading comprehension

No, I read it perfectly. I'm trying to figure out how him being released the day after she busted into his house and stole his stuff means she had a right to bust into his house and steal his stuff.


Because as a rational person, you think "He's detained right now.. but tomorrow he will be released, and has already tried to hurt me.. he could do a lot more with his guns that without them, especially as the guns might not immediately be surrendered".

Do you genuinely only operate on "today" mentality? I would imagine you'd have trouble functioning if all you ever thought about is "what's true today". For example, if your driver's license was expiring tomorrow... would you wait till tomorrow to get it renewed?
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darkjedilink
07/02/19 5:34:57 PM
#113:


Ruvan22 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
FarFromFields posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
ArmieBuff posted...
There should be kind of exemption for stuff like this when you feel your life or others are threatened.

There is no reason for her to feel threatened, though. The dude is literally in jail, and the cops were going to be taking his guns legally.


Again, he was being released the next day (Joseph Irby was spending one day in jail at the time, accused of ramming into her car after a June 14 divorce hearing) and had already rammed her car with his. You genuinely think there "is no reason for to feel threatened"?

On top of this the article states "Federal law prohibits people under a domestic violence restraining order from possessing guns, but it's up to local law enforcement to enforce it" - the guns may not have been taken/surrendered for some time.

Yes, I genuinely feel that there is no way to feel threatened by a guy who is in jail.

>reading comprehension

No, I read it perfectly. I'm trying to figure out how him being released the day after she busted into his house and stole his stuff means she had a right to bust into his house and steal his stuff.


Because as a rational person, you think "He's detained right now.. but tomorrow he will be released, and has already tried to hurt me.. he could do a lot more with his guns that without them, especially as the guns might not immediately be surrendered".

Do you genuinely only operate on "today" mentality? I would imagine you'd have trouble functioning if all you ever thought about is "what's true today". For example, if your driver's license was expiring tomorrow... would you wait till tomorrow to get it renewed?

Rational people don't break into their ex's house and steal their shit.
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Ving_Rhames
07/02/19 5:46:03 PM
#114:


Rational people also know how to read
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Ruvan22
07/02/19 7:21:40 PM
#115:


darkjedilink posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
FarFromFields posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
darkjedilink posted...

There is no reason for her to feel threatened, though. The dude is literally in jail, and the cops were going to be taking his guns legally.


Again, he was being released the next day (Joseph Irby was spending one day in jail at the time, accused of ramming into her car after a June 14 divorce hearing) and had already rammed her car with his. You genuinely think there "is no reason for to feel threatened"?

On top of this the article states "Federal law prohibits people under a domestic violence restraining order from possessing guns, but it's up to local law enforcement to enforce it" - the guns may not have been taken/surrendered for some time.

Yes, I genuinely feel that there is no way to feel threatened by a guy who is in jail.

>reading comprehension

No, I read it perfectly. I'm trying to figure out how him being released the day after she busted into his house and stole his stuff means she had a right to bust into his house and steal his stuff.


Because as a rational person, you think "He's detained right now.. but tomorrow he will be released, and has already tried to hurt me.. he could do a lot more with his guns that without them, especially as the guns might not immediately be surrendered".

Do you genuinely only operate on "today" mentality? I would imagine you'd have trouble functioning if all you ever thought about is "what's true today". For example, if your driver's license was expiring tomorrow... would you wait till tomorrow to get it renewed?

Rational people don't break into their ex's house and steal their shit.


Whether rational people "break into their ex's house and steal their shit." is beside the point, since you were stating you couldn't see why she (or anybody) would feel threatened. Do you still stand by that statement?
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darkjedilink
07/02/19 8:21:58 PM
#116:


Ruvan22 posted...
Whether rational people "break into their ex's house and steal their shit." is beside the point, since you were stating you couldn't see why she (or anybody) would feel threatened. Do you still stand by that statement?

Yes, I do, because there is no reason to be so afraid of someone CURRENTLY IN JAIL that you commit multiple felonies.
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FarFromFields
07/02/19 9:14:54 PM
#117:


darkjedilink posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
Whether rational people "break into their ex's house and steal their shit." is beside the point, since you were stating you couldn't see why she (or anybody) would feel threatened. Do you still stand by that statement?

Yes, I do, because there is no reason to be so afraid of someone CURRENTLY IN JAIL that you commit multiple felonies.

So if she waited until the next day when he was released, and then broke into his house while he was there, it would somehow make more sense to you?
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Ruvan22
07/03/19 10:50:25 AM
#118:


FarFromFields posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
Whether rational people "break into their ex's house and steal their shit." is beside the point, since you were stating you couldn't see why she (or anybody) would feel threatened. Do you still stand by that statement?

Yes, I do, because there is no reason to be so afraid of someone CURRENTLY IN JAIL that you commit multiple felonies.

So if she waited until the next day when he was released, and then broke into his house while he was there, it would somehow make more sense to you?
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darkjedilink
07/03/19 1:38:01 PM
#119:


Ruvan22 posted...
FarFromFields posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
Whether rational people "break into their ex's house and steal their shit." is beside the point, since you were stating you couldn't see why she (or anybody) would feel threatened. Do you still stand by that statement?

Yes, I do, because there is no reason to be so afraid of someone CURRENTLY IN JAIL that you commit multiple felonies.

So if she waited until the next day when he was released, and then broke into his house while he was there, it would somehow make more sense to you?

At least at that point you could argue he was a threat to her.

She's still a multiple felon, and would likely die for breaking into the house of an armed man, but her fear is at least logical at that point.

Then again, novel idea - how about, instead of her commiting multiple felonies, she gets the cops to do their job, as the law dictates?
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Ruvan22
07/03/19 4:36:18 PM
#120:


darkjedilink posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
FarFromFields posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
Whether rational people "break into their ex's house and steal their shit." is beside the point, since you were stating you couldn't see why she (or anybody) would feel threatened. Do you still stand by that statement?

Yes, I do, because there is no reason to be so afraid of someone CURRENTLY IN JAIL that you commit multiple felonies.

So if she waited until the next day when he was released, and then broke into his house while he was there, it would somehow make more sense to you?

At least at that point you could argue he was a threat to her.

She's still a multiple felon, and would likely die for breaking into the house of an armed man, but her fear is at least logical at that point.

Then again, novel idea - how about, instead of her commiting multiple felonies, she gets the cops to do their job, as the law dictates?


Because (as has been stated many times in this thread), there is often a waiting period, and sometimes guns are never confiscated.

You've often advocated being armed and acting before something happens..why don't you apply the same logic here? (getting his guns BEFORE he is armed, especially given past physical attacks on her)
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darkjedilink
07/03/19 4:59:34 PM
#121:


Ruvan22 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
FarFromFields posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
Whether rational people "break into their ex's house and steal their shit." is beside the point, since you were stating you couldn't see why she (or anybody) would feel threatened. Do you still stand by that statement?

Yes, I do, because there is no reason to be so afraid of someone CURRENTLY IN JAIL that you commit multiple felonies.

So if she waited until the next day when he was released, and then broke into his house while he was there, it would somehow make more sense to you?

At least at that point you could argue he was a threat to her.

She's still a multiple felon, and would likely die for breaking into the house of an armed man, but her fear is at least logical at that point.

Then again, novel idea - how about, instead of her commiting multiple felonies, she gets the cops to do their job, as the law dictates?


Because (as has been stated many times in this thread), there is often a waiting period, and sometimes guns are never confiscated.

You've often advocated being armed and acting before something happens..why don't you apply the same logic here? (getting his guns BEFORE he is armed, especially given past physical attacks on her)

When have I advocating shooting someone before they do anything threatening?

I've literally never done that.

You're the one advocating shooting someone who literally cannot be a threat.
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Ruvan22
07/05/19 1:32:56 AM
#122:


darkjedilink posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
FarFromFields posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
Whether rational people "break into their ex's house and steal their shit." is beside the point, since you were stating you couldn't see why she (or anybody) would feel threatened. Do you still stand by that statement?

Yes, I do, because there is no reason to be so afraid of someone CURRENTLY IN JAIL that you commit multiple felonies.

So if she waited until the next day when he was released, and then broke into his house while he was there, it would somehow make more sense to you?

At least at that point you could argue he was a threat to her.

She's still a multiple felon, and would likely die for breaking into the house of an armed man, but her fear is at least logical at that point.

Then again, novel idea - how about, instead of her commiting multiple felonies, she gets the cops to do their job, as the law dictates?


Because (as has been stated many times in this thread), there is often a waiting period, and sometimes guns are never confiscated.

You've often advocated being armed and acting before something happens..why don't you apply the same logic here? (getting his guns BEFORE he is armed, especially given past physical attacks on her)

When have I advocating shooting someone before they do anything threatening?

I've literally never done that.

You're the one advocating shooting someone who literally cannot be a threat.


In another topic on suspicion activity outside your house. Where did I advocate "shooting someone"?
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