Board 8 > English Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events

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Playerlist (15 alive)
1. Pezloco
2. UltimaterializerX
3. Lea3Lea
4. Benjamin
5. SBell (Obellisk)
6. Camarija
7. MZero
8. 5tarscream
9. Hbthebattle
10. Death (HtaeD)
11. Tom Bombadil
12. Lopen
13. turbopuns3
14. Corrik
15. Lolo_Guru

Deadlist (6 dead)
LD1 - Luis_Sera aka The One Ring (Lord of the Rings), MAFIA Redirector
KN1 - Scarechan (replaced eaedwards) aka J.D. Salinger (as portrayed on BoJack Horseman), TOWN Villager
LD2 - Red13n aka Nyarlathotep (H.P. Lovecraft), MAFIA Backup
MKN2 - TheSultanOfSlam aka Atticus Finch (To Kill A Mockingbird), TOWN Mayor
KN2 - Dowolf aka Piggy (Lord of the Flies), TOWN Kingmaker
KN2 - Sir Chris aka g (the English alphabet), TOWN Villager

Votals (as of post 1)
(3) Lolo: (Corrik), (Tom), SBell, Tom, Lopen
(3) MZero: (Lea), (Ben), (5tar), (Ulti), Lea, Ben, Ulti
(2) Cam: (5tar), (Ulti), (SBell), (Tom), Lolo, Corrik
(2) SBell: Puns, MZero, (Ben), (Lea), (Lopen), (Tom)
(1) Lea: (Tom), Hb
(1) Tom: (Lopen), Cam
(0) Hb: (Corrik)
(0) Puns: (SBell)
(0) Ben: (Lopen)
(0) Hb: (Lopen)

With 15 players alive, it takes 8 votes to reach a majority. Day will end on Wednesday, June 26th at 9PM EDT or if majority is reached ahead of time.
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Oh no the drama.
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pezloco posted...

Part of why I think you're town is not because of much of what you describe above. But because you don't seem to be able to see the game from anyone else's perspective. You can only see the game from your perspective. You don't seem to understand at all that for example thinking Red and Luis were scum D1 doesn't give you any points when you didn't lead to their lynches. Scum frequently soft busses each other. You say you put all this effort in. As town you know why you did it. But do you think that scum isn't also putting in effort? You think scum isn't also doing whatever their equivalent of taking notes is? But you know you're town so clearly the effort and insight you've provided is 100% trustworthy and on the up and up. But we can't see that because we don't start knowing you're alignment.

So I think you're town. But not because you nailed scum. But because you don't see why we aren't convinced (to over simplify).

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Sorry for double post but I somehow missed the Cam quote I was responding to.

pezloco posted...

Camarija posted...

At least as many Town voted me

So in a game of perception, I've failed somewhere

I dunno how though

I mean, I feel like I did everything right

Day 1 I kept the game in front of me, didn't let anyone get by just skating along

That accountability lead to a list of at least 2/4 Mafia in crunch time

Then Day 2 I did analysis that had at least 1 of the three question mark associations flip Mafia

I just don't understand what more I could do

Or what I could have done better

I thought it was more or less flawless

So I'm led to believe that even a flawless effort and performance will mean nothing in the metric of perception

So what's the point if I get it right but fail anyway?

I've already failed even I deliver all of the mafia

Part of why I think you're town is not because of much of what you describe above. But because you don't seem to be able to see the game from anyone else's perspective. You can only see the game from your perspective. You don't seem to understand at all that for example thinking Red and Luis were scum D1 doesn't give you any points when you didn't lead to their lynches. Scum frequently soft busses each other. You say you put all this effort in. As town you know why you did it. But do you think that scum isn't also putting in effort? You think scum isn't also doing whatever their equivalent of taking notes is? But you know you're town so clearly the effort and insight you've provided is 100% trustworthy and on the up and up. But we can't see that because we don't start knowing you're alignment.

So I think you're town. But not because you nailed scum. But because you don't see why we aren't convinced (to over simplify).

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Camarija posted...

I'm voting all of you in spirit

Tom Bombadil posted...

*blinks* folks sure like 180ing on me this game

Camarija posted...

I've failed somewhere

I dunno how though

As several of us have said, you just...haven't contributed as much as you think. Just slapping folks on a list, especially d1 when it's as much luck as anything, doesn't mean as much as you think it does. There's a difference between "handing you scum" and putting them on a list which doesn't do much until Chris/5tar power role them into the ground. You're also insisting that you are more town than the closest thing we have to a confirmed scanner. My advice, regardless of your alignment or mine, is to untilt yourself, stop OMGUSing everybody who doesn't agree with you, and stop thinking you are some sort of super cleared town hero. Heck I was considered obvtown d1 and look at me now!
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more advice: don't give up just because you're the #3 lynch and people aren't following you onto the confirmedish scanner >_>
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like, nobody alive is "lock town" right now and if there was somebody it'd be 5tar
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nobody announced they were going to bed
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Tom Bombadil posted...

like, nobody alive is "lock town" right now and if there was somebody it'd be 5tar

Me, Lolo, 5tar.

Lock us UP!

Cam is a lock liar. Ain't no Opera Singer. Lynch all Liars!
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I'm pretty certain I'm legit the only lock town here.
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Obellisk posted...

I'm pretty certain I'm legit the only lock town here.

If you claim right now and I like it, I will lock you up.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Cam is just struggling getting in with our community. I completely understand this, plus Chris had faith in the dude. He should not be lynched today, because him responding poorly to pressure is understandable.

This could be an attempt to look out for a newbie or an attempt to butter them up and pocket (right?) them. Gut Tom leans the latter but Logic Tom is still giving Ulti a pass from 5tar.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Tom Bombadil posted...

like, nobody alive is "lock town" right now and if there was somebody it'd be 5tar

So 5tar is lock town who handed us scum on a plate yesterday, but a guy he scanned town is not lock town. "Okay."

You are lock town too. Welcome to the locks, bro!
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All the protection is outted, I say we mass claim! WoooO!
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Corrik7 posted...

Lynch all Liars!

you have changed your claim at least once!
so has most of the game actually
Lopen made a joke during the Kingmaker bit about lynching 20 people and honestly mood
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Corrik7 posted...

Obellisk posted...

I'm pretty certain I'm legit the only lock town here.

If you claim right now and I like it, I will lock you up.

Why not right?

I'm Jim, (adventures of huck Finn), unlynchable independent survivor.
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Tom Bombadil posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Lynch all Liars!

you have changed your claim at least once!
so has most of the game actually
Lopen made a joke during the Kingmaker bit about lynching 20 people and honestly mood

I never changed my claim ever. Where?
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Obellisk posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Obellisk posted...

I'm pretty certain I'm legit the only lock town here.

If you claim right now and I like it, I will lock you up.

Why not right?

I'm Jim, (adventures of huck Finn), unlynchable independent survivor.

##unvote:
##vote: Sbell

I'll test this claim and indy is not town.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Tom Bombadil posted...

like, nobody alive is "lock town" right now and if there was somebody it'd be 5tar

So 5tar is lock town who handed us scum on a plate yesterday, but a guy he scanned town is not lock town. "Okay."

reread my post and tell me where I said 5tar was lock town
also the scan sounds vague enough that it *could* be wrong even if he was guaranteed
best I can do for you is a "wait and see"
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Corrik7 posted...

Obellisk posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Obellisk posted...

I'm pretty certain I'm legit the only lock town here.

If you claim right now and I like it, I will lock you up.

Why not right?

I'm Jim, (adventures of huck Finn), unlynchable independent survivor.

##unvote:
##vote: Sbell

I'll test this claim and indy is not town.

Corrik. Give me more credit than that. That was a joke.
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Corrik7 posted...

Tom Bombadil posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Lynch all Liars!

you have changed your claim at least once!
so has most of the game actually
Lopen made a joke during the Kingmaker bit about lynching 20 people and honestly mood

I never changed my claim ever. Where?

you claimed survivor at one point and now you're chronomancer

fake edit: oh hey speaking of survivor
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No way does Han hand out "unlynchable" to me.
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Obellisk posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Obellisk posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Obellisk posted...

I'm pretty certain I'm legit the only lock town here.

If you claim right now and I like it, I will lock you up.

Why not right?

I'm Jim, (adventures of huck Finn), unlynchable independent survivor.

##unvote:
##vote: Sbell

I'll test this claim and indy is not town.

Corrik. Give me more credit than that. That was a joke.

I don't believe you. You have lost the benefit of the doubt.
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I trapped Sbell. Let's FINISH HIM!
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Corrik7 posted...

All the protection is outted, I say we mass claim! WoooO!

I was going to post a fish emoji but I think wifebolo's computer is too old for that
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I am still up for a mass flavor claim but still not up (or even down) for a regular mass claim
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I just thought it was just funny enough...

Live on Harry Potter clan, your faithful sbell will fall on the sword of lost humor.
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Obellisk posted...

I just thought it was just funny enough...

Live on Harry Potter clan, your faithful sbell will fall on the sword of lost humor.

I won't change my vote unless Cam tells me who scum Is.
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I am Jim from Huck Finn by the way.

Just strolling down the river.
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if it makes you feel any better that was the second alleged joke claim this game that I didn't get!
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Corrik7 posted...

Obellisk posted...

I just thought it was just funny enough...

Live on Harry Potter clan, your faithful sbell will fall on the sword of lost humor.

I won't change my vote unless Cam tells me who scum Is.

I'm on borrowed time anyway.
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Tom Bombadil posted...

if it makes you feel any better that was the second alleged joke claim this game that I didn't get!

Its a double really. First it's racist because Jim is a freed slave so he's unlynchable.

And second it's sbell and he is sooooo lynch able.
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real talk I didn't even register the "unlynchable" part of the claim at first
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I can't even joke well this game.
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Tom Bombadil posted...

nobody announced they were going to bed

Sorry I had to start dinner. I forgot to tell you.
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I am going to bed...soon
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I need to make the kids dinner. Forgot to go food shopping... Hotdogs and ice cream sandwiches it is.
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Obellisk posted...

I need to make the kids dinner. Forgot to go food shopping... Hotdogs and ice cream sandwiches it is.

My kids eat the same dinner every night. I need to work on this. My older one eats banana omelettes we call pancakes and the younger eats a corn dog that's actually a sausage wrapped in a pancake. But it's the only protein they eat other than peanut butter.

I don't like the mass claim idea necessarily. I still feel like town might have another surprise or two for scum. I know a flavor claim might not reveal that, but I generally want to avoid giving information out if we don't need to. I'm not sure what the mass exactly accomplishes. I guess it locks in claims before the pressure of claim or be lynched.
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I'm not sure how much of this evening and tonight I'll be around for. I'd like to hear more from MZero. He contributed a decent but earlier and disappeared again. So,

##vote: MZero

What's up dude? What do you think of the mess that happened while you were at work and/or asleep?
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Hey puns, lea,

Given the general air surrounding Mzero and Sbell and their posting today..... I'm starting to see a world where both are town and are just lame
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I ditto flavor scanning HB. 3 Harry Potter roles is kind of unbelievable. Scum Lolo wouldn't have came out with one with two on the table and with 5tar claimed. HB claimed before scum knew about flavor scanner, so if scum he'd have claimed off the safelist and can thus be resolved with the scan.

I really want to kill one of the roommates today. I see Tom is slowly backing out of his Pez scum read. Every time Pez tries to tell me what each of them would be doing if they were both scum it comes off so fake. I get roommate powers. You can read each other well. When town. It sounds fake.
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Sbell is not hardly trying enough to be scum. Right? He sounds genuine in his laziness. Mzero still sounds much less genuine in the laziness. I definitely now would kill Mzero and defend Sbell if im picking between the two.
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Scum can't be lazy?
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UltimaterializerX posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

I ditto flavor scanning HB. 3 Harry Potter roles is kind of unbelievable. Scum Lolo wouldn't have came out with one with two on the table and with 5tar claimed. HB claimed before scum knew about flavor scanner, so if scum he'd have claimed off the safelist and can thus be resolved with the scan.

I really want to kill one of the roommates today. I see Tom is slowly backing out of his Pez scum read. Every time Pez tries to tell me what each of them would be doing if they were both scum it comes off so fake. I get roommate powers. You can read each other well. When town. It sounds fake.

They're probably both scum.

You feel it too?

##Unvote
##Vote: Pez

Tommy boy, you've been complaining day 1 and 2 that you can't vote Pez because no one would listen. Will you join in our crusade?
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I feel completely dead. That mud road hell was the worst I've ever seen it, and then there was blinding sheet rain and hailstones on the actual highway. I did survive but barely. Lynch mzero etc etc