Board 8 > English Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events

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pezloco
06/25/19 10:44:04 PM
#151:


benjamin3740 posted...
Lopen posted...
I think that you went for Pez but have been grilling Tom more and seem to have a more solid case on Tom really isn't a good look. Combined with your red lynch reactions and dowolf chaos wagoning your votes just tell too ugly a story for me to ignore at this point.

I'm already convinced Pez is scum given the fakeness of his posts. I'm grilling Tom because I need to resolve him harder in my head and find out if they're buds or not. Again, Scum Tom + Town Pez is impossible because of what Pez has been posting all game. That's already figured out


benjamin3740 posted...
Lopen posted...
Build the case on Pez if you think he's scum. What you're doing isn't working for me.

Lopen posted...
Build the case on Pez if you think he's scum. What you're doing isn't working for me.

Most of the case is process of elimination. But that's also my strongest asset an has led to results every time in the past, so, I'm not ashamed by it.


POE and of course I'm apparently fake. Would you like to clarify the fake part?
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MZero11
06/25/19 10:45:09 PM
#152:


UltimaterializerX posted...
My job has a cell phone ban and I've been more active than you, so don't even try.


I can't use my cell phone at work either so

and I just woke up
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pezloco
06/25/19 10:50:31 PM
#153:


MZero11 posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
My job has a cell phone ban and I've been more active than you, so don't even try.


I can't use my cell phone at work either so

and I just woke up


Yup it is a little before End of Day for WWE, this makes sense.
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MZero11
06/25/19 10:50:34 PM
#154:


UltimaterializerX posted...
In my iso, I caught a comment from you about Cam being belligerent, which is a bit hilarious given you're being belligerent yourself.


I called him insufferable because he was calling everyone stupid and not reading the game and claiming he caught two scum for us or whatever
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Lea3Lea
06/25/19 10:51:35 PM
#156:


MZero11 posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
In my iso, I caught a comment from you about Cam being belligerent, which is a bit hilarious given you're being belligerent yourself.


I called him insufferable because he was calling everyone stupid and not reading the game and claiming he caught two scum for us or whatever


He really gave them to us on a silver platter
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benjamin3740
06/25/19 10:53:50 PM
#157:


pezloco posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Lopen posted...
I think that you went for Pez but have been grilling Tom more and seem to have a more solid case on Tom really isn't a good look. Combined with your red lynch reactions and dowolf chaos wagoning your votes just tell too ugly a story for me to ignore at this point.

I'm already convinced Pez is scum given the fakeness of his posts. I'm grilling Tom because I need to resolve him harder in my head and find out if they're buds or not. Again, Scum Tom + Town Pez is impossible because of what Pez has been posting all game. That's already figured out


benjamin3740 posted...
Lopen posted...
Build the case on Pez if you think he's scum. What you're doing isn't working for me.

Lopen posted...
Build the case on Pez if you think he's scum. What you're doing isn't working for me.

Most of the case is process of elimination. But that's also my strongest asset an has led to results every time in the past, so, I'm not ashamed by it.


POE and of course I'm apparently fake. Would you like to clarify the fake part?

It's a gut thing. I think on day 1 I was saying you felt "distant" from the rest of us. Bad word to qualify it, but it's that same feeling.

I know this isn't going to win me any supporters.

At least I'll be able to gloat at the end of the game.

I'll try to look for more specific examples....

Like I said, I'm better at town reads and thus process of elimination. I like when the POE and day 1 gut aligns
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Lopen
06/25/19 10:56:44 PM
#158:


Would you call Pez's style of posting similar to Luis's?
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pezloco
06/25/19 11:01:48 PM
#159:


benjamin3740 posted...
pezloco posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Lopen posted...
I think that you went for Pez but have been grilling Tom more and seem to have a more solid case on Tom really isn't a good look. Combined with your red lynch reactions and dowolf chaos wagoning your votes just tell too ugly a story for me to ignore at this point.

I'm already convinced Pez is scum given the fakeness of his posts. I'm grilling Tom because I need to resolve him harder in my head and find out if they're buds or not. Again, Scum Tom + Town Pez is impossible because of what Pez has been posting all game. That's already figured out


benjamin3740 posted...
Lopen posted...
Build the case on Pez if you think he's scum. What you're doing isn't working for me.

Lopen posted...
Build the case on Pez if you think he's scum. What you're doing isn't working for me.

Most of the case is process of elimination. But that's also my strongest asset an has led to results every time in the past, so, I'm not ashamed by it.


POE and of course I'm apparently fake. Would you like to clarify the fake part?

It's a gut thing. I think on day 1 I was saying you felt "distant" from the rest of us. Bad word to qualify it, but it's that same feeling.

I know this isn't going to win me any supporters.

At least I'll be able to gloat at the end of the game.

I'll try to look for more specific examples....

Like I said, I'm better at town reads and thus process of elimination. I like when the POE and day 1 gut aligns


I was distant on D1, when I was consistently like 2+ pages behind? If you have the time, do me a favor. Go back and read D1 starting at topic 5 page 8. Do I still feel distant then? I had been trying and failing to keep up. But we were approaching the end of D1. I wanted to get in as much as I could before dinner with my friend and the baseball game. So, I sat on a bench and then at Starbucks for about 2-3 hours trying to give whatever insight I could and involve myself in the end of the day, knowing I'd be sitting in the stands of my baseball game. Point is, that stretch I wasn't trying to catch up. If I still feel "distant" over that stretch I don't know what to day.
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pezloco
06/25/19 11:04:38 PM
#160:


Here's a link to page 8 of topic 5

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77805002?page=7
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benjamin3740
06/25/19 11:06:32 PM
#161:


pezloco posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
pezloco posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Lopen posted...

I'm already convinced Pez is scum given the fakeness of his posts. I'm grilling Tom because I need to resolve him harder in my head and find out if they're buds or not. Again, Scum Tom + Town Pez is impossible because of what Pez has been posting all game. That's already figured out


benjamin3740 posted...
Lopen posted...
Build the case on Pez if you think he's scum. What you're doing isn't working for me.

Lopen posted...
Build the case on Pez if you think he's scum. What you're doing isn't working for me.

Most of the case is process of elimination. But that's also my strongest asset an has led to results every time in the past, so, I'm not ashamed by it.


POE and of course I'm apparently fake. Would you like to clarify the fake part?

It's a gut thing. I think on day 1 I was saying you felt "distant" from the rest of us. Bad word to qualify it, but it's that same feeling.

I know this isn't going to win me any supporters.

At least I'll be able to gloat at the end of the game.

I'll try to look for more specific examples....

Like I said, I'm better at town reads and thus process of elimination. I like when the POE and day 1 gut aligns


I was distant on D1, when I was consistently like 2+ pages behind? If you have the time, do me a favor. Go back and read D1 starting at topic 5 page 8. Do I still feel distant then? I had been trying and failing to keep up. But we were approaching the end of D1. I wanted to get in as much as I could before dinner with my friend and the baseball game. So, I sat on a bench and then at Starbucks for about 2-3 hours trying to give whatever insight I could and involve myself in the end of the day, knowing I'd be sitting in the stands of my baseball game. Point is, that stretch I wasn't trying to catch up. If I still feel "distant" over that stretch I don't know what to day.

It's not the right word then, because the same feeling extended all the way through to day 3 now? Though I can say it feels every time you've said something important in the last two days it's been about Tom.
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Lea3Lea
06/25/19 11:07:16 PM
#162:


Ben has forgotten the divine mandate, the holy shining light of the one true crusade
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benjamin3740
06/25/19 11:08:16 PM
#163:


Lopen posted...
Would you call Pez's style of posting similar to Luis's?

Not in any significant way. I also didn't pay attention to Luis'posts like at all both before and after he got wrecked, so that's on me.
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benjamin3740
06/25/19 11:09:38 PM
#164:


Lea3Lea posted...
Ben has forgotten the divine mandate, the holy shining light of the one true crusade

I'd kill Mzero any day any time. Im just trying to cover others in my POE while Mzero sits there
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Lea3Lea
06/25/19 11:11:13 PM
#165:


But we're so close to critical mass. He can't say "nah" if he's -2 or -1
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turbopuns3
06/25/19 11:14:50 PM
#166:


Lea3Lea posted...
turbopuns3 posted...
Tom and Pez are obviously scum who were jealous of dowolf and me so they shot him.

We only had a short few hours together.

;-(


I'll send you to Dowolf, Puns


It's cool we're playing epic spell wars rn
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benjamin3740
06/25/19 11:15:12 PM
#167:


Since im going to bed and he's gonna be up to feel the pain, it's actually not a bad idea

##Unvote
##Vote: Mzero

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MZero11
06/25/19 11:16:02 PM
#168:


Lea3Lea posted...
He really gave them to us on a silver platter


The silver platter is occupied by SBell atm
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Lea3Lea
06/25/19 11:16:03 PM
#169:


Epic spells wars is p fun
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pezloco
06/25/19 11:16:46 PM
#171:


benjamin3740 posted...
It's not the right word then, because the same feeling extended all the way through to day 3 now? Though I can say it feels every time you've said something important in the last two days it's been about Tom.


Tom is my strongest read. And the conduit, for lack of a better word, through which I interact with B8. He translates for me, though this is less necessary than in the past, it still showed up this game with the SK thing. Go back and reread WWE. My whole play arc was centered around Tom. I still had reads on other players. I thought Corrik was a player who bumbled around. Turns out I was at least partially wrong about that. Corrik is very intentional. I thought Scare and SBell looked scummy last game too and voted both of them on Day 1.

I caught Red on the SK nonsense because he knows better to ignore Tom. But I've put Corrik and Puns on my town list for reasons that had nothing to do with Tom. I considered voting HB and then got off of HB based on judging Chris to be wrong and possibly scum leading a mislynch and Red apparently lying. I decided Cam was town long ago and wrote up a post describing my thoughts about him, one where I don't mention Tom.

I thought I saw Sultan slipping up as scum. I was wrong about that. People focused on the Tom angle but it wasn't just that. It was the context of his post. He was catching up but he just repeated what others said. Then when it came to throwing suspicion on Tom he ignored not only my read on Tom, but also Chris' and 5tar's. My suspicion was on Sultan not because he thought Tom was scum, but because he had apparently been reading the topic enough to seemingly parrot other people's opinions. But he somehow missed at least three people talking about Tom as clearly town.

D2 I had to spend a lot of time trying to unpack Lopen lynching Tom. So I admit I had a lot of talking about Tom that day. But the other going on was Red. I was not here when Red claimed and then there wasn't much to say when 5tar had his scan. So I missed all of that.

So yeah I used my read on Tom to inform me of the game. But it is far from the only tool I've used.
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Lea3Lea
06/25/19 11:18:17 PM
#172:


UltimaterializerX posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
MZero11 posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
My job has a cell phone ban and I've been more active than you, so don't even try.


I can't use my cell phone at work either so

and I just woke up

Fair.

Got any reads? Or, I dunno, a claim since you're getting lynched otherwise?
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MZero11
06/25/19 11:18:25 PM
#173:


I could lynch Lolo because I would definitely make that same play as scum. I would prefer SBell though
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MZero11
06/25/19 11:21:07 PM
#174:


I've posted my reads already. Did you read them?
Except now add Lolo as a top 2 scum
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benjamin3740
06/25/19 11:21:21 PM
#175:


MZero11 posted...
Lea3Lea posted...
He really gave them to us on a silver platter


The silver platter is occupied by SBell atm

Has anything Sbell said , today made you any more or less convinced?
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MZero11
06/25/19 11:23:46 PM
#176:


benjamin3740 posted...
Has anything Sbell said , today made you any more or less convinced?


Yes his very weak attack on me before abruptly abandoning it to go after Cam was pretty scummy too. Very opportunistic
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pezloco
06/25/19 11:37:34 PM
#178:


MZero11 posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Has anything Sbell said , today made you any more or less convinced?


Yes his very weak attack on me before abruptly abandoning it to go after Cam was pretty scummy too. Very opportunistic


Why is his weak attack on you more relevant or interesting than anything else he's done all game?
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Tom Bombadil
06/25/19 11:42:59 PM
#179:


Lea3Lea posted...
Epic spells wars is p fun


oh that's a good one if I'm thinking of the right game

Mzero ain't my first choice but he ain't my last either and off the top of my head I don't think there's a lynch with traction I like better so go off I guess

Tempted to hop back to Sbell or Lea but I think a Lolo park is fine for now as I GO TO BED and hopefully something interesting happens overnight because I would like to have stronger opinions than I do on literally anybody ~_~ I feel like this whole game is just kinda grinding on everybody for some reason (even with ulti playing nice!) and it's starting to wear me down too. Dunno if there's anything useful to glean from that vibe or not.
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Lea3Lea
06/25/19 11:44:15 PM
#180:


Not me, I feel great~

Might I suggest parking your vote on Mzero overnight if you want something interesting to happen overnight?
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Lea3Lea
06/25/19 11:44:52 PM
#181:


Now that I actually read topic 12 I think Cam is fine
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Tom Bombadil
06/25/19 11:45:03 PM
#182:


also I kinda like benjamin now after his interactions with me

maybe the key to landing in my town pile is to argue with me a bunch >_>
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Tom Bombadil
06/25/19 11:45:35 PM
#183:


Lea3Lea posted...
Might I suggest parking your vote on Mzero overnight if you want something interesting to happen overnight?


isn't he already at like -2
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Lea3Lea
06/25/19 11:46:43 PM
#184:


Tom Bombadil posted...
also I kinda like benjamin now after his interactions with me

maybe the key to landing in my town pile is to argue with me a bunch >_>


Shut up, Tom...!

Tom Bombadil posted...
Lea3Lea posted...
Might I suggest parking your vote on Mzero overnight if you want something interesting to happen overnight?


isn't he already at like -2


Shrug. What am I, some nerd who does math?
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pezloco
06/25/19 11:49:20 PM
#185:


Lea3Lea posted...
Tom Bombadil posted...
also I kinda like benjamin now after his interactions with me

maybe the key to landing in my town pile is to argue with me a bunch >_>


Shut up, Tom...!

Tom Bombadil posted...
Lea3Lea posted...
Might I suggest parking your vote on Mzero overnight if you want something interesting to happen overnight?


isn't he already at like -2


Shrug. What am I, some nerd who does math?


I am some nerd who does math. But mathematicians are bad at arithmetic. I'll endeavor to grab some unofficial votals anyway.
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MZero11
06/25/19 11:51:27 PM
#186:


pezloco posted...
MZero11 posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Has anything Sbell said , today made you any more or less convinced?


Yes his very weak attack on me before abruptly abandoning it to go after Cam was pretty scummy too. Very opportunistic


Why is his weak attack on you more relevant or interesting than anything else he's done all game?


Come on man he specifically asked about today so I answered him
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pezloco
06/25/19 11:53:34 PM
#187:


Unofficial Votals (as of post 186)
(6) MZero: (Lea), (Ben), (5tar), (Ulti), (Lea), Ben, (Ulti), Pez, Ulti, Lea, Corrik, Ben
(3) Lolo: (Corrik), (Tom), SBell, Tom, Lopen, (Lea)
(1) Cam: (5tar), (Ulti), (SBell), (Tom), Lolo, (Corrik)
(1) SBell: Puns, MZero, (Ben), (Lea), (Lopen), (Tom), (Corrik)
(1) Lea: (Tom), Hb
(1) Tom: (Lopen), Cam
(0) Pez: (Ben), (Ulti)
(0) Lopen: (Corrik)
(0) Hb: (Corrik)
(0) Puns: (SBell)
(0) Ben: (Lopen)
(0) Hb: (Lopen)
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pezloco
06/25/19 11:54:27 PM
#188:


MZero11 posted...
pezloco posted...
MZero11 posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Has anything Sbell said , today made you any more or less convinced?


Yes his very weak attack on me before abruptly abandoning it to go after Cam was pretty scummy too. Very opportunistic


Why is his weak attack on you more relevant or interesting than anything else he's done all game?


Come on man he specifically asked about today so I answered him


Sorry, let me rephrase. Do you think his attitude towards you today is more relevant or interesting than anything else he's done all game? What else has done that made you put him on a silver platter?
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Lea3Lea
06/25/19 11:56:34 PM
#189:


Oh hey he is at -2, neat. Thanks for doing votals!
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Tom Bombadil
06/25/19 11:57:25 PM
#190:


oh hey and the lolo lynch has relative traction too nice thanks g'night
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MZero11
06/26/19 12:03:33 AM
#191:


pezloco posted...
Sorry, let me rephrase. Do you think his attitude towards you today is more relevant or interesting than anything else he's done all game? What else has done that made you put him on a silver platter?


No? I put him on the platter before any of that stuff today happened based on his play Day 2
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Corrik7
06/26/19 12:16:44 AM
#192:


Mzero didn't claim yet? Hammer him as far as I am concerned.
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Camarija
06/26/19 12:17:38 AM
#193:


Suprak the Stud posted...
The Adventures of Huckleberry Votals (as of post #261):
(4) Hb: Chris, (Lea), (puns), Tom, (Corrik), Death, (Cam), Corrik
(3) MZero: (Lea), (Lea), Lea, Ben, dowolf
(2) Cam: Lopen, (Lea), Sbell
(2) Lea: (Cam), (Corrik), Cam, puns
(1) Sultan: pezloco, (SBell)
(1) Lopen: (Ulti), Hb, (SBell)
(1) pezloco: Ulti
(0) Lolo: (Lea), (Cam)
(0) Ben: (Chris), (Corrik), (Lea), (dowolf)
(0) Dowolf: (Cam), (Cam), (ben)
(0) Sir Chris: (Tom), (Ben), (puns)
(0) Corrik: (Sultan)
(0) SBell: (Corrik)
(0) No Lynch: (pezloco), (Tom), (Lopen)
(0) Luis: (Lea)
(0) Ulti: (Lopen), (Hb)
(0) Puns: (Lea), (Corrik), (Ulti)

With 21 alive, it takes 11 votes to reach majority! The day will end on Thursday at 9 pm EDT, or if majority is reached, whichever comes first.

(I believe these are correct but I noticed one mistake one going through so people may want to double check and correct me if I'm wrong!)


Camarija posted...
LETS SEE WHO HASN'T VOTED:
red13n
MZero
5tarscream
eaedwards
luis_sera
lolo

PLAYERS WHO ONLY VOTED ONCE:
Death
Sultan


I believe HB

I believe Lolo

I believe 5tarscream

Giving a Mafia a 'watertight' fake claim, and have it be the xth harry potter flavor is not watertight

I feel like I'm the only odd flavor out, which would make me an unknowing miller in addition to my role which is just weird, but I guess it can make sense with 5tarscream

It just really messes with me

Why not just say: "In addition to your role, you are a miller"

0_o

whatever

I think I'm fine with MZero lynch

I certainly have no reason to defend them

I don't really remember anything memorable from MZero

They would also fit the profile of other flipped Mafia who were non-voters
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MZero11
06/26/19 12:19:34 AM
#194:


I didn't vote day 1 last game either and I was town *shrug*
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Camarija
06/26/19 12:25:14 AM
#195:


This is more or less my current Process of Elimination after a quick sorting

1. Pezloco
2. UltimaterializerX
5. SBell (Obellisk)
7. MZero
11. Tom Bombadil
14. Corrik

I need to review to see who else I can remove from the list
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Camarija
06/26/19 12:28:24 AM
#196:


You know

I actually gave Obellisk a ton of leeway

I thought they were playing under the radar on purpose

I realize now there really wasn't any purpose

I don't them as a Town Power Role

I think they were just lurking as Mafia

I still think Tom is always mafia, but for some reason no one wants to see all the times Tom was like:

1. "I'll sheep Luis", despite literally a hundred posts prior having them at "No Read/Haven't Read"

2. Continuously telling me NOT to vote/vig Red

3. Conveniently forgetting this

But whatever, you guys want Mafia to win, whatever, weird flex but ok

I'm fine voting Obellisk today I think

I need to reread with Obellisk in mind right now
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Camarija
06/26/19 12:30:10 AM
#197:


I want to make a deal

We lynch Obellisk today

If they are Mafia, please lynch Tom tomorrow
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Camarija
06/26/19 12:32:12 AM
#198:


##VOTE: Obellisk

yeah
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Camarija
06/26/19 12:36:16 AM
#199:


Camarija posted...
You know

I actually gave Obellisk a ton of leeway

I thought they were playing under the radar on purpose

I realize now there really wasn't any purpose

I don't them as a Town Power Role

I think they were just lurking as Mafia

I still think Tom is always mafia, but for some reason no one wants to see all the times Tom was like:

1. "I'll sheep Luis", despite literally a hundred posts prior having them at "No Read/Haven't Read"

2. Continuously telling me NOT to vote/vig Red

3. Conveniently forgetting this

But whatever, you guys want Mafia to win, whatever, weird flex but ok

I'm fine voting Obellisk today I think

I need to reread with Obellisk in mind right now


oh wait, regarding 1, 2, and 3

I think I caught Tom in a lie on Day 2

Give me a sec
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pezloco
06/26/19 12:38:34 AM
#200:


@MZero11 would you like to say anything else? You think Lolo might be scum because you'd do the same thing. What do you think of HB and Cam?

Do you want to weigh in on Tom or Me?
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