Board 8 > Umineko Playthrough Topic Final Part

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Dels
07/14/19 2:08:16 PM
#51:


well, magic was the correct answer, wasn't it...?
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Dels
07/14/19 2:08:45 PM
#52:


On October 6th, Beatrice and Battler are in the cave. Beatrice says it's where they first met two generations ago.

But Battler isn't Kinzo!!! Right? Right?!?!
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Raka_Putra
07/14/19 2:11:40 PM
#53:


Dels posted...
On October 6th, Beatrice and Battler are in the cave. Beatrice says it's where they first met two generations ago.

But Battler isn't Kinzo!!! Right? Right?!?!

Well Battler has some of Kinzo's DNA for sure, so in a way...
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Dels
07/14/19 2:12:13 PM
#54:


Dels posted...
well, magic was the correct answer, wasn't it...?


I mean, here's the thing

The goal of Umineko is to deny magic

That's how you win

In episode 3, Beatrice and all the magical/meta characters come up with a grand scheme to make you believe that magic is actually okay and that you can trust the witches

And when you give in and accept that the magic is actually not the bad guy you thought it was, you're betrayed and told you were fooled - the goal was still to deny magic, and by giving in, you lost.

And Battler swears that he won't fall for the same trick again, with Beato implying maybe he will

Now, as I reach the end of episode 8, I choose to accept magic, because it's what Battler wants, and what Ange wants, and etc and etc

But yes

It's possible that I just lost the game

If "the whole second half of episode 3" was just a trick to get me to finally accept magic...

Then technically, "all of episodes 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8" could also be a trick, and I could've just been "fooled" again

You could cut to a screen of Beato being evil again and laughing at me and saying "hahahaha you fell for it again!"
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Dels
07/14/19 2:13:22 PM
#55:


not that I ever "trusted" magic or "believed" the magic was real, or stopped denying it

but i accepted it as... what it was. which is... not real, but still real. 'cause, y'know... that's the idea, right?

but that choice isn't about reality. it's about what you believe.

of course the candy appearing was a trick.

but that doesn't mean you can't choose magic anyway.
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Dels
07/14/19 2:16:53 PM
#56:


and so, on october 6th, battler takes beato off rokkenjima on a boat.

well, i have no idea what this scene represents, so, ok.
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Dels
07/14/19 2:21:51 PM
#57:


looks like its just some sort of final illusion...

i wonder if the truth is that battler really died survive until the end of the 2 days, and survived like eva... but then jumped into the ocean, romeo and juliet style, because his love was dead.

who knows.
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Dels
07/14/19 2:22:08 PM
#58:


yesssss

one last appearance of best side-char okonogi
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Dels
07/14/19 2:22:56 PM
#59:


he seemed a bit evil in episode 6 but, if ange gives him the company, i'm sure he's getting what he wants, and that's good for everyone, because ange certainly doesn't want the company, that's for sure
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Dels
07/14/19 2:25:11 PM
#60:


tfw when "without love, it cannot be seen" was built up as some mindblowing key phrase, but really it just meant "character's motives are generally driven by love"

like, yeah.
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Dels
07/14/19 2:27:31 PM
#61:


and so ange drives off with amakusa, who she is introduced to as if she's meeting him for the first time? like hell imma try to figure out episode 4's timeline now. i'm almost out of this mess!
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Dels
07/14/19 2:27:45 PM
#62:


maybe she's just kidding about just meeting him now.
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Dels
07/14/19 2:28:32 PM
#63:


and so... ange decides to change her name.

DOES SHE CHANGE IT TO HACHIJO TOHYA?

WAS ANGE HACHIJO ALL ALONG?!
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Dels
07/14/19 2:30:06 PM
#64:


god i'm sorry, episode 8 ultimately had lots of good satisfying emotional beats (aside from that post-puzzle section you guys can see i hated) but my god, this was the final chapter of an epic murder mystery saga and it didn't have a single twist! i want twiiiiists!

the last twist i got was "shannon = kannon" and that twist i literally got by going over notes on my own between chapters and it was revealed as truth in-game in a random scene with no stakes
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Dels
07/14/19 2:30:25 PM
#65:


Episode 8 End.

But a "Tea Party" remains.

And, presumably, an ????.
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Raka_Putra
07/14/19 2:31:59 PM
#66:


Speaking of names, the women in Rudolf's life were named after Christian symbolisms -- Kyrie (from the prayer Kyrie eleison 'Lord, have mercy'), Asumu (derived from the Christian assumption or belief that Virgin Mary was taken to Heaven at the end of her Earthly life), and Ange (from angel). Just a neat bit of trivia.
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Reg
07/14/19 2:32:40 PM
#67:


Trick does provide a different ending to the episode from Magic, by the way

I would recommend going back and doing that before the Tea Party.
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Dels
07/14/19 2:35:20 PM
#68:


Oh, interesting.

The way the dialogue after my choice was just like "And so, Ange chose. She knew which door she was going for. And she went towards that door. And Battler said: "I see. So you chose that door" and etc made it really seem like the choice did nothing.
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Dels
07/14/19 2:35:59 PM
#69:


Okay, I'll go back and choose the other answer.

I'm not sure what the Tea Party will even cover - every character got an ending! Except Lamba actually. I bet the Tea Party or ???? covers her...
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Dels
07/14/19 2:41:30 PM
#70:


Trick chosen.

No difference in the Golden Land scene, as I thought.

But maybe it makes Ange make a different decision in the real world.
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Dels
07/14/19 2:42:56 PM
#71:


lmao, ange, i savescummed 17 puzzles for that beatrice doll and u throw it in the ocean?!
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Dels
07/14/19 2:44:20 PM
#72:


lol. ange's gonna say that she's gonna sell off the entire company to charity or something

and amakusa is gonna murder her as per okonogi's orders lol
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Dels
07/14/19 2:46:57 PM
#73:


see, this is the kind of answers i wanted! the exact nature of okonogi and amakusa's plans revealed by ange here! it's not mindblowing, but it's an answer! it's satisfying to get it!
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Dels
07/14/19 2:48:03 PM
#74:


i like how the type of gun used by the sumadera family doesn't have a safety feature

because, well, looking at kyrie and kasumi - why the fuck would it? LOL
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Dels
07/14/19 2:49:11 PM
#75:


lmao, she's even murdering the boat captain?!?! wtf ange?!?!?!
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Raka_Putra
07/14/19 2:49:57 PM
#76:


An apple doesn't fall far from its tree.
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Dels
07/14/19 2:50:37 PM
#77:


<Good!>
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Dels
07/14/19 2:50:58 PM
#78:


Oh. Wait, the Trick ending has credits? But the Magic ending didn't...?
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Dels
07/14/19 2:51:39 PM
#79:


Raka_Putra posted...
An apple doesn't fall far from its tree.


that's true, i can't keep being surprised when all these sumadera's are coldblooded murderers =P ange and battler have both had segments where they show they are kyrie's children now
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Dels
07/14/19 2:52:29 PM
#80:


well, I like the Magic ending more lol

Okonogi may be a schemer, but hey, she was threatening to sell his entire company to charity because of her whims, even though he'd worked his entire life to build it up. I don't blame him!
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Dels
07/14/19 2:52:49 PM
#81:


Tea Party Begins
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Dels
07/14/19 2:54:30 PM
#82:


Featherine muses about how the ending of a story should always come at a point where the rest of the character's life can be imagined

She's not wrong - It's usually a good idea to end a story at a time when the current arc is resolved, but the character's future after it is wide open for a new story to begin
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Dels
07/14/19 2:55:10 PM
#83:


ryuukishi though, we gotta talk bro, do you often imagine yourself as a beautiful roman goddess...? is this the truth you see when you look in the murder...?

edit: LMAO I MEANT MIRROR. IT WAS A TYPO. BUT I'M LEAVING IT IN BECAUSE IT'S SUBCONCIOUSLY HILARIOUS
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Dels
07/14/19 2:56:44 PM
#84:


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Dels
07/14/19 2:57:37 PM
#85:


In the Trick ending, Battler and Beatrice don't even get their final goodbye =P Truly not the correct ending!
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Dels
07/14/19 2:58:46 PM
#86:


https://snag.gy/67ceAp.jpg

yep, that just about sums up what i was saying earlier
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Dels
07/14/19 3:00:54 PM
#87:


https://snag.gy/sngwj2.jpg

"does anyone remember why we commissioned art of a medieval castle archway? no? well, let's just say that's where will vacations after the epilogue"
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Dels
07/14/19 3:03:26 PM
#88:


Lambda and Bern say goodbye. They will meet again "when something else cries"

You guys never told me if Lambda and Bern actually come from Higurashi or something else...?

I can certainly imagine Umineko crossing over with the writer's other series, not that I know anything about them
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Dels
07/14/19 3:03:51 PM
#89:


Ep8 ????

We are truly nearing the end now. What a long journey it has been. Six and a half months.
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Dels
07/14/19 3:05:09 PM
#90:


https://snag.gy/xpgBZD.jpg

did umineko only start getting widely translated and discussed after episode 6?!
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Dels
07/14/19 3:06:53 PM
#91:


Company X, again...

What was up with the weird amnesiac segment earlier, huh...?
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Reg
07/14/19 3:07:53 PM
#92:


speaking of something else crying

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbzIJGh2aEk" data-time="


Summer Comiket is less than a month away
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Dels
07/14/19 3:09:24 PM
#93:


Hachijo Tohya is... two people?!

Ahhhh!!!

Will Umineko finally give me... the twist I was hoping for?!
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Dels
07/14/19 3:11:53 PM
#94:


https://snag.gy/7oIv9Y.jpg

whaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!
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Dels
07/14/19 3:12:12 PM
#95:


is battler kinzo after all?!

is battler the one in the wheelchair?! does that mean battler is yasu?!
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Raka_Putra
07/14/19 3:16:36 PM
#96:


Reg posted...
speaking of something else crying

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbzIJGh2aEk" data-time="


Summer Comiket is less than a month away

At first I thought Ryukishi's art got immensely better.
And although it is better, seeing that someone else was the colorist made me realize just how much the coloring helped.
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Noble king, there is no doubt -- what your dream is all about
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Dels
07/14/19 3:20:01 PM
#97:


the designs look nice but the faces still look weird >_> like the original umineko art
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Dels
07/14/19 3:23:02 PM
#98:


https://snag.gy/U4CKxS.jpg

was there always a pumpkin here?! i never noticed.

lambda's origins are solved! she is a personification of maria's corner store!
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Dels
07/14/19 3:23:44 PM
#99:


that's why she's all about candy! because that's what maria bought there!
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Team Rocket Elite
07/14/19 3:35:17 PM
#100:


Dels posted...
https://snag.gy/xpgBZD.jpg

did umineko only start getting widely translated and discussed after episode 6?!


The English fan translation started before Ep6. I believe the translation group was even mentioned in Ep4.
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