Poll of the Day > Do you guys think using "implications" to get sex is rape?

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Lirishae 07/19/19 4:57:52 PM #101:	TentacleDemon posted... Lirishae posted... TentacleDemon posted... Normal, well adjusted women do not live their lives in fear. They do not spend their days wondering how they're going to avoid getting raped/murdered today. That's not what I said. I said that women plan their lives around avoiding violence from men, Same thing. No, it's not. You said these women are living in fear. They do not. They are simply being realistic about the threat of violence. Like I said, if they take steps to minimize their risk, they get called paranoid. If they don't and something happens to them, they get blamed for it. --- "Little scratches on people's hearts will be gone if they pat them from behind, but the humans don't know that." -Li'l Cactus 3DS FC: 0619-3174-3155 <cite>Lirishae posted [p:924912852] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote><cite>TentacleDemon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lirishae posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TentacleDemon posted...</cite> <quote>Normal, well adjusted women do not live their lives in fear. They do not spend their days wondering how they're going to avoid getting raped/murdered today.</quote> That's not what I said. I said that women plan their lives around avoiding violence from men,</quote> Same thing.</quote> No, it's not. You said these women are living in fear. They do not. They are simply being realistic about the threat of violence. Like I said, if they take steps to minimize their risk, they get called paranoid. If they don't and something happens to them, they get blamed for it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TentacleDemon 07/19/19 5:18:36 PM #102:	Fam_Fam posted... ask women if they are worried about being attacked, and what they do to avoid it. they will tell you. stop saying that they don't just because you don't believe it. I just asked my four sisters, three of whom are adults and on their own, as well as my mother. They all basically said "no that's ridiculous". Some of them even laughed at the notion and said you all are being silly. Unless they're in a sketchy situation it's not something that actively think about. To clarify, a sketchy situation would be getting lost and ending up in bad neighborhood. Or being the only person at the subway waiting for the next train late at night. But then these are situations that anybody with some sense would be on alert in. <cite>TentacleDemon posted [p:924913717] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fam_Fam posted...</cite> <quote>ask women if they are worried about being attacked, and what they do to avoid it. they will tell you. stop saying that they don't just because you don't believe it.</quote> I just asked my four sisters, three of whom are adults and on their own, as well as my mother. They all basically said "no that's ridiculous". Some of them even laughed at the notion and said you all are being silly. Unless they're in a sketchy situation it's not something that actively think about. To clarify, a sketchy situation would be getting lost and ending up in bad neighborhood. Or being the only person at the subway waiting for the next train late at night. But then these are situations that anybody with some sense would be on alert in.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 07/19/19 5:23:59 PM #103:	Lirishae posted... CTLM posted... That's quite an assumption. I don't know where you live but last time I checked, our country wasn't that dangerous Women have to plan their lives? That's one hell of stretch if I ever heard one Do you think it's a good idea for women to do the following? A) go jogging early in the morning alone B) run errands at night alone C) walk across a dark parking lot alone D) visit a male she doesn't know very well by herself E) give a random guy on the bus her phone number Most likely, you will say most of those are bad ideas. That's only common sense. But did you ever think about why it's common sense? Because women face a very real risk of being attacked, raped or killed. So women have to plan all these activities, from grocery shopping to jogging to social outings, in such a way as to minimize this risk, or simply not do them at all. If she plans around this risk, she's paranoid; if she doesn't and something bad happens to her, it's her fault. Have a crack at some statistics on violence toward women: Worldwide stats on violence against women: http://www.unwomen.org/en/what-we-do/ending-violence-against-women/facts-and-figures US stats on violence against women: https://statusofwomendata.org/explore-the-data/violence-safety/ It can be a bad idea for men to do those things, as well... not every guy is built or can defend themselves just because theyre guys. Especially if they are by themselves and their attackers are not. Lirishae posted... GanonsSpirit posted... Lirishae posted... Suggesting sex out of the blue to someone you aren't dating or otherwise romantically involved with is creepy as hell. That's what people do at bars and clubs all the time though. How do you think one night stands happen? If you're flirting with someone and you proposition them, that's not out of the blue. This has already been covered. But the same could be said for the boat, as well. A woman going with you on a boat usually means something, I would think... Would that really be out of the blue? --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:924913936] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lirishae posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CTLM posted...</cite> <quote>That's quite an assumption. I don't know where you live but last time I checked, our country wasn't that dangerous Women have to plan their lives? That's one hell of stretch if I ever heard one</quote> Do you think it's a good idea for women to do the following? A) go jogging early in the morning alone B) run errands at night alone C) walk across a dark parking lot alone D) visit a male she doesn't know very well by herself E) give a random guy on the bus her phone number Most likely, you will say most of those are bad ideas. That's only common sense. But did you ever think about why it's common sense? Because women face a very real risk of being attacked, raped or killed. So women have to plan all these activities, from grocery shopping to jogging to social outings, in such a way as to minimize this risk, or simply not do them at all. If she plans around this risk, she's paranoid; if she doesn't and something bad happens to her, it's her fault. Have a crack at some statistics on violence toward women: Worldwide stats on violence against women: http://www.unwomen.org/en/what-we-do/ending-violence-against-women/facts-and-figures US stats on violence against women: https://statusofwomendata.org/explore-the-data/violence-safety/</quote> It can be a bad idea for men to do those things, as well... not every guy is built or can defend themselves just because theyre guys. Especially if they are by themselves and their attackers are not. <cite>Lirishae posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GanonsSpirit posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lirishae posted...</cite> <quote>Suggesting sex out of the blue to someone you aren't dating or otherwise romantically involved with is creepy as hell.</quote> That's what people do at bars and clubs all the time though. How do you think one night stands happen?</quote> If you're flirting with someone and you proposition them, that's not out of the blue. This has already been covered.</quote> But the same could be said for the boat, as well. A woman going with you on a boat usually means something, I would think... Would that really be out of the blue?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 07/19/19 5:26:34 PM #104:	Lirishae posted... Women are the overwhelming majority of victims when it comes to harassment, stalking, sexual assault, rape, and domestic partner violence. If you seriously think men face the same risk of sexual violence as women, I don't think there's anything I can say that will get through to you. They could, though. Its said that most men wont report it. It can make them look weak. Or it can make them seem gay. And stuff like that. Many women dont report, either. But thats why its hard to get an actual number. Most numbers would be educated guess, right? --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:924914044] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lirishae posted...</cite> <quote>Women are the overwhelming majority of victims when it comes to harassment, stalking, sexual assault, rape, and domestic partner violence. If you seriously think men face the same risk of sexual violence as women, I don't think there's anything I can say that will get through to you.</quote> They could, though. Its said that most men wont report it. It can make them look weak. Or it can make them seem gay. And stuff like that. Many women dont report, either. But thats why its hard to get an actual number. Most numbers would be educated guess, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 07/19/19 5:28:54 PM #105:	Fam_Fam posted... TentacleDemon posted... All that could mean is that women are far less likely to get involved in all the other stupid shit that men get murdered over. If they aren't involved in all the other stuff then of course their percentage of this sort of murder will be dramatically higher. Normal, well adjusted women do not live their lives in fear. They do not spend their days wondering how they're going to avoid getting raped/murdered today. ask women if they are worried about being attacked, and what they do to avoid it. they will tell you. stop saying that they don't just because you don't believe it. Maybe thats just women you know. Most women I know dont constantly worry about stuff like that. My grandma does, but shes paranoid about a lot of stuff. Maybe you just live in a bad area or something... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:924914133] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fam_Fam posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TentacleDemon posted...</cite> <quote>All that could mean is that women are far less likely to get involved in all the other stupid shit that men get murdered over. If they aren't involved in all the other stuff then of course their percentage of this sort of murder will be dramatically higher. Normal, well adjusted women do not live their lives in fear. They do not spend their days wondering how they're going to avoid getting raped/murdered today.</quote> ask women if they are worried about being attacked, and what they do to avoid it. they will tell you. stop saying that they don't just because you don't believe it.</quote> Maybe thats just women you know. Most women I know dont constantly worry about stuff like that. My grandma does, but shes paranoid about a lot of stuff. Maybe you just live in a bad area or something...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lirishae 07/19/19 7:01:55 PM #106:	TentacleDemon posted... I just asked my four sisters, three of whom are adults and on their own, as well as my mother. They all basically said "no that's ridiculous". Some of them even laughed at the notion and said you all are being silly. Unless they're in a sketchy situation it's not something that actively think about. To clarify, a sketchy situation would be getting lost and ending up in bad neighborhood. Or being the only person at the subway waiting for the next train late at night. But then these are situations that anybody with some sense would be on alert in. Given that you repeatedly misstated my argument on this very site, I don't have confidence that you repeated what I actually wrote. Either way though, I already said it's not something that happens everywhere, and that a lot of women don't realize they're doing it because it's just "common sense." That doesn't take away from the fact that millions of women do have these experiences, and statistics show they have good reason to do it. LinkPizza posted... It can be a bad idea for men to do those things, as well... not every guy is built or can defend themselves just because theyre guys. Especially if they are by themselves and their attackers are not. Yes, that's true. However, guys are less likely to be attacked by virtue of being guys. Average men are on even footing with one another, but the average man can overpower the average woman. LinkPizza posted... But the same could be said for the boat, as well. A woman going with you on a boat usually means something, I would think... Would that really be out of the blue? It might, but not necessarily. It would still be creepy to go straight to sex though when a girl hasn't shown signs of interest. LinkPizza posted... They could, though. Its said that most men wont report it. It can make them look weak. Or it can make them seem gay. And stuff like that. Many women dont report, either. But thats why its hard to get an actual number. Most numbers would be educated guess, right? Yes, men are even less likely than women to report. It's tragic, but all the data we have suggests that the majority of victims are women. --- "Little scratches on people's hearts will be gone if they pat them from behind, but the humans don't know that." -Li'l Cactus 3DS FC: 0619-3174-3155 <cite>Lirishae posted [p:924917683] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote><cite>TentacleDemon posted...</cite> <quote>I just asked my four sisters, three of whom are adults and on their own, as well as my mother. They all basically said "no that's ridiculous". Some of them even laughed at the notion and said you all are being silly. Unless they're in a sketchy situation it's not something that actively think about. To clarify, a sketchy situation would be getting lost and ending up in bad neighborhood. Or being the only person at the subway waiting for the next train late at night. But then these are situations that anybody with some sense would be on alert in.</quote> Given that you repeatedly misstated my argument on this very site, I don't have confidence that you repeated what I actually wrote. Either way though, I already said it's not something that happens everywhere, and that a lot of women don't realize they're doing it because it's just "common sense." That doesn't take away from the fact that millions of women do have these experiences, and statistics show they have good reason to do it. <cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>It can be a bad idea for men to do those things, as well... not every guy is built or can defend themselves just because theyre guys. Especially if they are by themselves and their attackers are not.</quote> Yes, that's true. However, guys are less likely to be attacked by virtue of being guys. Average men are on even footing with one another, but the average man can overpower the average woman. <cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>But the same could be said for the boat, as well. A woman going with you on a boat usually means something, I would think... Would that really be out of the blue?</quote> It might, but not necessarily. It would still be creepy to go straight to sex though when a girl hasn't shown signs of interest. <cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>They could, though. Its said that most men wont report it. It can make them look weak. Or it can make them seem gay. And stuff like that. Many women dont report, either. But thats why its hard to get an actual number. Most numbers would be educated guess, right?</quote> Yes, men are even less likely than women to report. It's tragic, but all the data we have suggests that the majority of victims are women.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 07/19/19 8:55:58 PM #107:	Lirishae posted... LinkPizza posted... It can be a bad idea for men to do those things, as well... not every guy is built or can defend themselves just because theyre guys. Especially if they are by themselves and their attackers are not. Yes, that's true. However, guys are less likely to be attacked by virtue of being guys. Average men are on even footing with one another, but the average man can overpower the average woman. Maybe. Though, all they need is a second person, and they can most likely take over a guy easily, as well. Plus, I guess it depends on if they think they can take a woman. Especially in this day and age where people have more weapons with them. Not just keys and pepper spray, but guns and stuff, as well... But it just depends, I guess... Lirishae posted... LinkPizza posted... But the same could be said for the boat, as well. A woman going with you on a boat usually means something, I would think... Would that really be out of the blue? It might, but not necessarily. It would still be creepy to go straight to sex though when a girl hasn't shown signs of interest. I mean, it depends on what signs you see. Going out on a boat alone with a male that has shown some interest in you could be seen as showing interest. But people read people wrong a lot, as well. I think inviting someone out on a boat trip alone might also show interest depending on how the convo went before that. And I just dont see it being creepy. But then again, Ive been part of the hook-up culture before where people basically ask if you want to hook-up and you can accept or decline, so... Lirishae posted... LinkPizza posted... They could, though. Its said that most men wont report it. It can make them look weak. Or it can make them seem gay. And stuff like that. Many women dont report, either. But thats why its hard to get an actual number. Most numbers would be educated guess, right? Yes, men are even less likely than women to report. It's tragic, but all the data we have suggests that the majority of victims are women. Maybe. But they are still unreliable statistics. There are many that dont report. Than there are a bunch of false reports. Its just seems hard to have actual statistics with something like this. Though, I think I remember once they were talking about an Air Force base in Japan that we shared with the marines. And they were saying that a bunch of male marines were raping like a lot of guys there for a certain amount of time. I cant remember it all that well, but it was a big thing at one time... Well, for us in the Air Force... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:924921903] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lirishae posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>It can be a bad idea for men to do those things, as well... not every guy is built or can defend themselves just because theyre guys. Especially if they are by themselves and their attackers are not.</quote> Yes, that's true. However, guys are less likely to be attacked by virtue of being guys. Average men are on even footing with one another, but the average man can overpower the average woman.</quote> Maybe. Though, all they need is a second person, and they can most likely take over a guy easily, as well. Plus, I guess it depends on if they think they can take a woman. Especially in this day and age where people have more weapons with them. Not just keys and pepper spray, but guns and stuff, as well... But it just depends, I guess... <cite>Lirishae posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>But the same could be said for the boat, as well. A woman going with you on a boat usually means something, I would think... Would that really be out of the blue?</quote> It might, but not necessarily. It would still be creepy to go straight to sex though when a girl hasn't shown signs of interest.</quote> I mean, it depends on what signs you see. Going out on a boat alone with a male that has shown some interest in you could be seen as showing interest. But people read people wrong a lot, as well. I think inviting someone out on a boat trip alone might also show interest depending on how the convo went before that. And I just dont see it being creepy. But then again, Ive been part of the hook-up culture before where people basically ask if you want to hook-up and you can accept or decline, so... <cite>Lirishae posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>They could, though. Its said that most men wont report it. It can make them look weak. Or it can make them seem gay. And stuff like that. Many women dont report, either. But thats why its hard to get an actual number. Most numbers would be educated guess, right?</quote> Yes, men are even less likely than women to report. It's tragic, but all the data we have suggests that the majority of victims are women.</quote> Maybe. But they are still unreliable statistics. There are many that dont report. Than there are a bunch of false reports. Its just seems hard to have actual statistics with something like this. Though, I think I remember once they were talking about an Air Force base in Japan that we shared with the marines. And they were saying that a bunch of male marines were raping like a lot of guys there for a certain amount of time. I cant remember it all that well, but it was a big thing at one time... Well, for us in the Air Force...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam 07/19/19 9:06:22 PM #108:	LinkPizza posted... Fam_Fam posted... TentacleDemon posted... All that could mean is that women are far less likely to get involved in all the other stupid shit that men get murdered over. If they aren't involved in all the other stuff then of course their percentage of this sort of murder will be dramatically higher. Normal, well adjusted women do not live their lives in fear. They do not spend their days wondering how they're going to avoid getting raped/murdered today. ask women if they are worried about being attacked, and what they do to avoid it. they will tell you. stop saying that they don't just because you don't believe it. Maybe thats just women you know. Most women I know dont constantly worry about stuff like that. My grandma does, but shes paranoid about a lot of stuff. Maybe you just live in a bad area or something... i live in a city, not a particularly bad area though. <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:924922262] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Fam_Fam posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TentacleDemon posted...</cite> <quote>All that could mean is that women are far less likely to get involved in all the other stupid shit that men get murdered over. If they aren't involved in all the other stuff then of course their percentage of this sort of murder will be dramatically higher. Normal, well adjusted women do not live their lives in fear. They do not spend their days wondering how they're going to avoid getting raped/murdered today.</quote> ask women if they are worried about being attacked, and what they do to avoid it. they will tell you. stop saying that they don't just because you don't believe it.</quote> Maybe thats just women you know. Most women I know dont constantly worry about stuff like that. My grandma does, but shes paranoid about a lot of stuff. Maybe you just live in a bad area or something...</quote> i live in a city, not a particularly bad area though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lirishae 07/19/19 9:30:09 PM #109:	LinkPizza, I'm really not sure what point you're trying to make in most of your replies. I say something, and you reply with, "Well, if we change this and that and this other thing, then it's different." Of course it's going to be different if you change important details. That has nothing to do with the original points being discussed. The average man can still overpower the average woman. Going out on a boat trip in and of itself does not equate to interest. Cutting to the chase and asking for sex on the hook-up scene is very different from propositioning a girl you are not romantically involved with out of the blue and when she has no escape. A plethora of dating sites will tell you that getting too sexual too fast is creepy and not going to get you laid. No statistic is ever going to be 100% accurate, but drawing on the most reliable numbers we have is better than shrugging our shoulders and saying it's all relative anyway. --- "Little scratches on people's hearts will be gone if they pat them from behind, but the humans don't know that." -Li'l Cactus 3DS FC: 0619-3174-3155 <cite>Lirishae posted [p:924923114] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza, I'm really not sure what point you're trying to make in most of your replies. I say something, and you reply with, "Well, if we change this and that and this other thing, then it's different." Of course it's going to be different if you change important details. That has nothing to do with the original points being discussed. The average man can still overpower the average woman. Going out on a boat trip in and of itself does not equate to interest. Cutting to the chase and asking for sex on the hook-up scene is very different from propositioning a girl you are not romantically involved with out of the blue and when she has no escape. A plethora of dating sites will tell you that getting too sexual too fast is creepy and not going to get you laid. No statistic is ever going to be 100% accurate, but drawing on the most reliable numbers we have is better than shrugging our shoulders and saying it's all relative anyway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 07/19/19 10:07:43 PM #110:	It is relative. Its based on people. And probably looks, as well. But if you want me to cut to the chase, I guess Ill just say I disagree with most of what you say. I dont think asking someone for sex out of the blue is creepy. Though, I guess it depends on what out of the blue means. I know a boat trip doesnt equate to interest. But going alone on a boat trip with someone (especially if they have shown interest) seems like an odd thing to do if you have no interest in them. And I dont think most women plan their lives around being assault, raped, etc... And that honestly sounds ridiculous. And makes me think you either havent interacted with many women, have seriously misread them, and have only interacted with woman of a specific group or area (i.e. victims or people who live in a bad area). And while that may be a slight exaggeration, that what it seems like. Some women may live life in a fear bubble. But usually, they are either paranoid, have been/almost been a victim, or know someone who has been/almost been a victim. Thats all, I guess... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:924924452] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote>It is relative. Its based on people. And probably looks, as well. But if you want me to cut to the chase, I guess Ill just say I disagree with most of what you say. I dont think asking someone for sex out of the blue is creepy. Though, I guess it depends on what out of the blue means. I know a boat trip doesnt equate to interest. But going alone on a boat trip with someone (especially if they have shown interest) seems like an odd thing to do if you have no interest in them. And I dont think most women plan their lives around being assault, raped, etc... And that honestly sounds ridiculous. And makes me think you either havent interacted with many women, have seriously misread them, and have only interacted with woman of a specific group or area (i.e. victims or people who live in a bad area). And while that may be a slight exaggeration, that what it seems like. Some women may live life in a fear bubble. But usually, they are either paranoid, have been/almost been a victim, or know someone who has been/almost been a victim. Thats all, I guess...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_tall_midget 07/19/19 11:41:37 PM #111:	LinkPizza posted... It is relative. Its based on people. And probably looks, as well. But if you want me to cut to the chase, I guess Ill just say I disagree with most of what you say. I dont think asking someone for sex out of the blue is creepy. Though, I guess it depends on what out of the blue means. I know a boat trip doesnt equate to interest. But going alone on a boat trip with someone (especially if they have shown interest) seems like an odd thing to do if you have no interest in them. And I dont think most women plan their lives around being assault, raped, etc... And that honestly sounds ridiculous. And makes me think you either havent interacted with many women, have seriously misread them, and have only interacted with woman of a specific group or area (i.e. victims or people who live in a bad area). And while that may be a slight exaggeration, that what it seems like. Some women may live life in a fear bubble. But usually, they are either paranoid, have been/almost been a victim, or know someone who has been/almost been a victim. Thats all, I guess... I believe that women are strong, independent, and equal to men in all aspects. Thus, they're capable of defending themselves. --- "There is no crisis at the border!" "The border crisis is manufactured!" "OMG! Look at that crisis at de border!" -Lol leftists. <cite>The_tall_midget posted [p:924927174] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>It is relative. Its based on people. And probably looks, as well. But if you want me to cut to the chase, I guess Ill just say I disagree with most of what you say. I dont think asking someone for sex out of the blue is creepy. Though, I guess it depends on what out of the blue means. I know a boat trip doesnt equate to interest. But going alone on a boat trip with someone (especially if they have shown interest) seems like an odd thing to do if you have no interest in them. And I dont think most women plan their lives around being assault, raped, etc... And that honestly sounds ridiculous. And makes me think you either havent interacted with many women, have seriously misread them, and have only interacted with woman of a specific group or area (i.e. victims or people who live in a bad area). And while that may be a slight exaggeration, that what it seems like. Some women may live life in a fear bubble. But usually, they are either paranoid, have been/almost been a victim, or know someone who has been/almost been a victim. Thats all, I guess...</quote> I believe that women are strong, independent, and equal to men in all aspects. Thus, they're capable of defending themselves.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam 07/19/19 11:52:04 PM #112:	The_tall_midget posted... LinkPizza posted... It is relative. Its based on people. And probably looks, as well. But if you want me to cut to the chase, I guess Ill just say I disagree with most of what you say. I dont think asking someone for sex out of the blue is creepy. Though, I guess it depends on what out of the blue means. I know a boat trip doesnt equate to interest. But going alone on a boat trip with someone (especially if they have shown interest) seems like an odd thing to do if you have no interest in them. And I dont think most women plan their lives around being assault, raped, etc... And that honestly sounds ridiculous. And makes me think you either havent interacted with many women, have seriously misread them, and have only interacted with woman of a specific group or area (i.e. victims or people who live in a bad area). And while that may be a slight exaggeration, that what it seems like. Some women may live life in a fear bubble. But usually, they are either paranoid, have been/almost been a victim, or know someone who has been/almost been a victim. Thats all, I guess... I believe that women are strong, independent, and equal to men in all aspects. Thus, they're capable of defending themselves. so you believe that sports leagues should all be co-ed? including things like MMA and boxing? <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:924927462] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote><cite>The_tall_midget posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>It is relative. Its based on people. And probably looks, as well. But if you want me to cut to the chase, I guess Ill just say I disagree with most of what you say. I dont think asking someone for sex out of the blue is creepy. Though, I guess it depends on what out of the blue means. I know a boat trip doesnt equate to interest. But going alone on a boat trip with someone (especially if they have shown interest) seems like an odd thing to do if you have no interest in them. And I dont think most women plan their lives around being assault, raped, etc... And that honestly sounds ridiculous. And makes me think you either havent interacted with many women, have seriously misread them, and have only interacted with woman of a specific group or area (i.e. victims or people who live in a bad area). And while that may be a slight exaggeration, that what it seems like. Some women may live life in a fear bubble. But usually, they are either paranoid, have been/almost been a victim, or know someone who has been/almost been a victim. Thats all, I guess...</quote> I believe that women are strong, independent, and equal to men in all aspects. Thus, they're capable of defending themselves.</quote> so you believe that sports leagues should all be co-ed? including things like MMA and boxing?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_tall_midget 07/20/19 12:18:20 AM #113:	Fam_Fam posted... so you believe that sports leagues should all be co-ed? including things like MMA and boxing? I'm just believing the feminists that women are capable of doing everything that men are capable of and are equal to men in all aspects. Thus, they can defend themselves. Don't believe in sexual dimorphism; it's a construct of the patriarchy. --- "There is no crisis at the border!" "The border crisis is manufactured!" "OMG! Look at that crisis at de border!" -Lol leftists. <cite>The_tall_midget posted [p:924928167] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fam_Fam posted...</cite> <quote>so you believe that sports leagues should all be co-ed? including things like MMA and boxing?</quote> I'm just believing the feminists that women are capable of doing everything that men are capable of and are equal to men in all aspects. Thus, they can defend themselves. Don't believe in sexual dimorphism; it's a construct of the patriarchy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Taily_Po 07/20/19 1:48:17 AM #114:	Lirishae posted... That's not what I said. I said that women plan their lives around avoiding violence from men, and they do. Many women probably don't realize the degree to which they modify their behavior, because it's just "common sense" to them. Not every country has this problem, but the US certainly does. Instead of reacting with denial and disbelief, maybe you should actually try listening to women's experiences. Yeah, that's pretty much fucking nonsense. Everybody plans their lives around avoiding violence, women aren't special in any regard. And most of those plans for both genders are common sense and they're universally true across all nations. There's not one country in the world where you're going to be absolutely safe. --- "If I were a ghost, this is certainly the kind of place I'd haunt." (\/)(\/)\|-\| <cite>Taily_Po posted [p:924930473] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lirishae posted...</cite> <quote>That's not what I said. I said that women plan their lives around avoiding violence from men, and they do. Many women probably don't realize the degree to which they modify their behavior, because it's just "common sense" to them. Not every country has this problem, but the US certainly does. Instead of reacting with denial and disbelief, maybe you should actually try listening to women's experiences.</quote> Yeah, that's pretty much fucking nonsense. Everybody plans their lives around avoiding violence, women aren't special in any regard. And most of those plans for both genders are common sense and they're universally true across all nations. There's not one country in the world where you're going to be absolutely safe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dioxxys 07/20/19 5:14:22 AM #115:	The_tall_midget posted... Fam_Fam posted... so you believe that sports leagues should all be co-ed? including things like MMA and boxing? I'm just believing the feminists that women are capable of doing everything that men are capable of and are equal to men in all aspects. Thus, they can defend themselves. Don't believe in sexual dimorphism; it's a construct of the patriarchy. Oh and here I thought you were actually going to make some logical sense when you were following the thought process of women are strong, independent, and equal to men as in there is no reason this topic had to be gendered but then you went and said that.... <cite>dioxxys posted [p:924933862] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote><cite>The_tall_midget posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Fam_Fam posted...</cite> <quote>so you believe that sports leagues should all be co-ed? including things like MMA and boxing?</quote> I'm just believing the feminists that women are capable of doing everything that men are capable of and are equal to men in all aspects. Thus, they can defend themselves. Don't believe in sexual dimorphism; it's a construct of the patriarchy.</quote> Oh and here I thought you were actually going to make some logical sense when you were following the thought process of women are strong, independent, and equal to men as in there is no reason this topic had to be gendered but then you went and said that....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 07/20/19 5:21:42 AM #116:	schmen bases his entire worldview on the most radical feminists and SJWs the internet can find --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:924933946] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote>schmen bases his entire worldview on the most radical feminists and SJWs the internet can find </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rexcrk 07/20/19 6:23:09 AM #117:	lihlih posted... Why isn't anyone tagging the females?! D: ...why dont you? --- These pretzels are making me thirsty! <cite>rexcrk posted [p:924934720] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote><cite>lihlih posted...</cite> <quote>Why isn't anyone tagging the females?! D:</quote> ...why dont you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 07/20/19 10:12:11 AM #119:	The joke has been thoroughly dissected --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:924938820] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote>The joke has been thoroughly dissected</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lihlih 07/20/19 10:30:29 AM #120:	rexcrk posted... lihlih posted... Why isn't anyone tagging the females?! D: ...why dont you? Because I only know 2, and both of them hats me. Pretty sure they're not going to appreciate being tagged by someone they hate. --- People come up to me... concerned.. that I'll reproduce." - Emo Philips <cite>lihlih posted [p:924939248] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote><cite>rexcrk posted...</cite> <quote><cite>lihlih posted...</cite> <quote>Why isn't anyone tagging the females?! D:</quote> ...why dont you?</quote> Because I only know 2, and both of them hats me. Pretty sure they're not going to appreciate being tagged by someone they hate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lirishae 07/20/19 2:09:33 PM #121:	LinkPizza posted... I dont think asking someone for sex out of the blue is creepy. Though, I guess it depends on what out of the blue means. Many dating sites will tell you that getting too sexual too fast or without first ascertaining she's interested creeps most women out. https://www.askmen.com/dating/dating_advice/ways-men-creep-women-out.html https://www.doctornerdlove.com/the-science-of-being-creepy/ https://www.girlschase.com/content/why-some-guys-creep-women-out-and-how-easily-avoid LinkPizza posted... And I dont think most women plan their lives around being assault, raped, etc... And that honestly sounds ridiculous. That's not what I said. They plan their lives to minimize the risk of being assaulted, raped, etc. Women face the threat of violence just minding their own business and trying to go about their daily lives. Yes, men face violence as well, but generally not sexual violence, and their risk of being killed comes from much different sources. As I posted before, the FBI stated that most male homicides occur from arguments over status. The majority of female homicides, on the other hand, stem from men killing their romantic partners. The idea of getting into an argument does not significantly change most men's behavior. The threat of violence however causes many women to change their routines, often in ways they don't consciously consider. https://www.salon.com/2013/08/12/five_ways_that_staying_safe_costs_women/ LinkPizza posted... And makes me think you either havent interacted with many women, have seriously misread them, and have only interacted with woman of a specific group or area (i.e. victims or people who live in a bad area). Nope. As gently as I can say this, you don't seem to know a lot about violence and abuse against women. I've been posting a lot of facts and links, while your argument boils down to calling this ridiculous based on nothing more than your own personal experience. If you research what experts are saying about violence against women, you'll generally find the same information I've posted. --- "Little scratches on people's hearts will be gone if they pat them from behind, but the humans don't know that." -Li'l Cactus 3DS FC: 0619-3174-3155 <cite>Lirishae posted [p:924946224] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote> I dont think asking someone for sex out of the blue is creepy. Though, I guess it depends on what out of the blue means.</quote> Many dating sites will tell you that getting too sexual too fast or without first ascertaining she's interested creeps most women out. https://www.askmen.com/dating/dating_advice/ways-men-creep-women-out.html https://www.doctornerdlove.com/the-science-of-being-creepy/ https://www.girlschase.com/content/why-some-guys-creep-women-out-and-how-easily-avoid <cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>And I dont think most women plan their lives around being assault, raped, etc... And that honestly sounds ridiculous.</quote> That's not what I said. They plan their lives to minimize the risk of being assaulted, raped, etc. Women face the threat of violence just minding their own business and trying to go about their daily lives. Yes, men face violence as well, but generally not sexual violence, and their risk of being killed comes from much different sources. As I posted before, the FBI stated that most male homicides occur from arguments over status. The majority of female homicides, on the other hand, stem from men killing their romantic partners. The idea of getting into an argument does not significantly change most men's behavior. The threat of violence however causes many women to change their routines, often in ways they don't consciously consider. https://www.salon.com/2013/08/12/five_ways_that_staying_safe_costs_women/ <cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>And makes me think you either havent interacted with many women, have seriously misread them, and have only interacted with woman of a specific group or area (i.e. victims or people who live in a bad area).</quote> Nope. As gently as I can say this, you don't seem to know a lot about violence and abuse against women. I've been posting a lot of facts and links, while your argument boils down to calling this ridiculous based on nothing more than your own personal experience. If you research what experts are saying about violence against women, you'll generally find the same information I've posted.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lirishae 07/20/19 2:12:48 PM #122:	Taily_Po posted... Yeah, that's pretty much f**ing nonsense. Everybody* plans their lives around avoiding violence, women aren't special in any regard. And most of those plans for both genders are common sense and they're universally true across all nations. There's not one country in the world where you're going to be absolutely safe. I've cited sources for my facts and arguments. Would you care to do the same? Maybe you'd like to post your academic credentials on this subject to back up your assertion that it's "f*ing nonsense." --- "Little scratches on people's hearts will be gone if they pat them from behind, but the humans don't know that." -Li'l Cactus 3DS FC: 0619-3174-3155 <cite>Lirishae posted [p:924946339] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote><cite>Taily_Po posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, that's pretty much fing nonsense. Everybody* plans their lives around avoiding violence, women aren't special in any regard. And most of those plans for both genders are common sense and they're universally true across all nations. There's not one country in the world where you're going to be absolutely safe.</quote> I've cited sources for my facts and arguments. Would you care to do the same? Maybe you'd like to post your academic credentials on this subject to back up your assertion that it's "f***ing nonsense."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 07/20/19 3:36:23 PM #123:	Lirishae posted... LinkPizza posted... I dont think asking someone for sex out of the blue is creepy. Though, I guess it depends on what out of the blue means. Many dating sites will tell you that getting too sexual too fast or without first ascertaining she's interested creeps most women out. https://www.askmen.com/dating/dating_advice/ways-men-creep-women-out.html https://www.doctornerdlove.com/the-science-of-being-creepy/ https://www.girlschase.com/content/why-some-guys-creep-women-out-and-how-easily-avoid Idk enough about asking women for sex. But I do know many friends who hook-up with different of both genders who hook-up frequently. Thats why it depends on what you mean by out of the blue. But I have known many people who do just ask if someone wants to hook-up. Though, its probably more normal in the hook-up culture. And not as weird there... Lirishae posted... LinkPizza posted... And I dont think most women plan their lives around being assault, raped, etc... And that honestly sounds ridiculous. That's not what I said. They plan their lives to minimize the risk of being assaulted, raped, etc. Women face the threat of violence just minding their own business and trying to go about their daily lives. Yes, men face violence as well, but generally not sexual violence, and their risk of being killed comes from much different sources. As I posted before, the FBI stated that most male homicides occur from arguments over status. The majority of female homicides, on the other hand, stem from men killing their romantic partners. The idea of getting into an argument does not significantly change most men's behavior. The threat of violence however causes many women to change their routines, often in ways they don't consciously consider. https://www.salon.com/2013/08/12/five_ways_that_staying_safe_costs_women/ Thats the thing. I dont think they do anything significantly different than men. As the other poster said, its more of a human thing to avoid certain situations more than a women thing. Like its not just women who shouldnt run errands alone at night. No one should. Sure. Women might try to avoid certain situations that are bad for them. But so do men... Lirishae posted... LinkPizza posted... And makes me think you either havent interacted with many women, have seriously misread them, and have only interacted with woman of a specific group or area (i.e. victims or people who live in a bad area). Nope. As gently as I can say this, you don't seem to know a lot about violence and abuse against women. I've been posting a lot of facts and links, while your argument boils down to calling this ridiculous based on nothing more than your own personal experience. If you research what experts are saying about violence against women, you'll generally find the same information I've posted. And as we stated before, most of those are educated guesses. With any crime/statistic, youll usually dont have 100% accuracy. But its even worse with statistic of sexual assault, or even just violence. As many dont report things out of embarrassment. But even with normal violence, like a fight, it may not get reported. Because of either embarrassment, or because they dont think its a big deal. So, it hard to believe random stats, especially when they can contradict other stats. So, the stat on violence against men probably goes up if were talking about more than just sexual violence. Probably higher than women. If were only talking about sexual violence, it goes down. But probably not as much as you think. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:924949273] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lirishae posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote> I dont think asking someone for sex out of the blue is creepy. Though, I guess it depends on what out of the blue means.</quote> Many dating sites will tell you that getting too sexual too fast or without first ascertaining she's interested creeps most women out. https://www.askmen.com/dating/dating_advice/ways-men-creep-women-out.html https://www.doctornerdlove.com/the-science-of-being-creepy/ https://www.girlschase.com/content/why-some-guys-creep-women-out-and-how-easily-avoid</quote> Idk enough about asking women for sex. But I do know many friends who hook-up with different of both genders who hook-up frequently. Thats why it depends on what you mean by out of the blue. But I have known many people who do just ask if someone wants to hook-up. Though, its probably more normal in the hook-up culture. And not as weird there... <cite>Lirishae posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>And I dont think most women plan their lives around being assault, raped, etc... And that honestly sounds ridiculous.</quote> That's not what I said. They plan their lives to minimize the risk of being assaulted, raped, etc. Women face the threat of violence just minding their own business and trying to go about their daily lives. Yes, men face violence as well, but generally not sexual violence, and their risk of being killed comes from much different sources. As I posted before, the FBI stated that most male homicides occur from arguments over status. The majority of female homicides, on the other hand, stem from men killing their romantic partners. The idea of getting into an argument does not significantly change most men's behavior. The threat of violence however causes many women to change their routines, often in ways they don't consciously consider. https://www.salon.com/2013/08/12/five_ways_that_staying_safe_costs_women/</quote> Thats the thing. I dont think they do anything significantly different than men. As the other poster said, its more of a human thing to avoid certain situations more than a women thing. Like its not just women who shouldnt run errands alone at night. No one should. Sure. Women might try to avoid certain situations that are bad for them. But so do men... <cite>Lirishae posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>And makes me think you either havent interacted with many women, have seriously misread them, and have only interacted with woman of a specific group or area (i.e. victims or people who live in a bad area).</quote> Nope. As gently as I can say this, you don't seem to know a lot about violence and abuse against women. I've been posting a lot of facts and links, while your argument boils down to calling this ridiculous based on nothing more than your own personal experience. If you research what experts are saying about violence against women, you'll generally find the same information I've posted.</quote> And as we stated before, most of those are educated guesses. With any crime/statistic, youll usually dont have 100% accuracy. But its even worse with statistic of sexual assault, or even just violence. As many dont report things out of embarrassment. But even with normal violence, like a fight, it may not get reported. Because of either embarrassment, or because they dont think its a big deal. So, it hard to believe random stats, especially when they can contradict other stats. So, the stat on violence against men probably goes up if were talking about more than just sexual violence. Probably higher than women. If were only talking about sexual violence, it goes down. But probably not as much as you think.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TentacleDemon 07/20/19 3:48:29 PM #124:	LinkPizza posted... So, the stat on violence against men probably goes up if were talking about more than just sexual violence. And that's the thing, people want to nitpick and choose specific types of violence to make it seem like.more than it really is. Then they throw out these big percentages which mean nothing because the actual numbers are pretty low. Even lower when you compare them to all violent crimes against both genders. But that doesn't fit the narrative trying to be pushed so that gets minimized or ignored altogether. Like I pointed out earlier, women have such a high percentage of sexual violence compared to other violence against them because they tend to not get involved in all the other dumb shit that men do that leads to violence against them. That percentage would drop dramatically if they were to do the same dumb shit that gets so many men killed. But hey, big percentages sound scary. <cite>TentacleDemon posted [p:924949677] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>So, the stat on violence against men probably goes up if were talking about more than just sexual violence. </quote> And that's the thing, people want to nitpick and choose specific types of violence to make it seem like.more than it really is. Then they throw out these big percentages which mean nothing because the actual numbers are pretty low. Even lower when you compare them to all violent crimes against both genders. But that doesn't fit the narrative trying to be pushed so that gets minimized or ignored altogether. Like I pointed out earlier, women have such a high percentage of sexual violence compared to other violence against them because they tend to not get involved in all the other dumb shit that men do that leads to violence against them. That percentage would drop dramatically if they were to do the same dumb shit that gets so many men killed. But hey, big percentages sound scary.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lirishae 07/20/19 3:50:15 PM #125:	LInkPizza, there's really nothing else to say to you. You are determined to ignore every fact, statistic and article I've posted based on nothing more than your own personal experiences, which you've admitted is at least partly outside the norm. If you want me to reply to you again, please post something tangible to debunk the articles and statistics I've provided. TentacleDemon posted... Like I pointed out earlier, women have such a high percentage of sexual violence compared to other violence against them because they tend to not get involved in all the other dumb s* that men do that leads to violence against them So you think 1 in 5 women being raped is something to blow off? Half of women being sexually assaulted? Eighty percent being sexually harassed? And that there's equivalency between men "getting involved in dumb s" that leads to violence, and violence directed at women through no fault of their own? --- "Little scratches on people's hearts will be gone if they pat them from behind, but the humans don't know that." -Li'l Cactus 3DS FC: 0619-3174-3155 <cite>Lirishae posted [p:924949744] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote>LInkPizza, there's really nothing else to say to you. You are determined to ignore every fact, statistic and article I've posted based on nothing more than your own personal experiences, which you've admitted is at least partly outside the norm. If you want me to reply to you again, please post something tangible to debunk the articles and statistics I've provided. <cite>TentacleDemon posted...</cite> <quote>Like I pointed out earlier, women have such a high percentage of sexual violence compared to other violence against them because they tend to not get involved in all the other dumb s that men do that leads to violence against them</quote> So you think 1 in 5 women being raped is something to blow off? Half of women being sexually assaulted? Eighty percent being sexually harassed? And that there's equivalency between men "getting involved in dumb s*" that leads to violence, and violence directed at women through no fault of their own?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lihlih 07/20/19 4:02:29 PM #126:	Lirishae posted... LInkPizza, there's really nothing else to say to you. You are determined to ignore every fact, statistic and article I've posted based on nothing more than your own personal experiences, which you've admitted is at least partly outside the norm. If you want me to reply to you again, please post something tangible to debunk the articles and statistics I've provided. TentacleDemon posted... Like I pointed out earlier, women have such a high percentage of sexual violence compared to other violence against them because they tend to not get involved in all the other dumb s* that men do that leads to violence against them So you think 1 in 5 women being raped is something to blow off? Half of women being sexually assaulted? Eighty percent being sexually harassed? And that there's equivalency between men "getting involved in dumb s" that leads to violence, and violence directed at women through no fault of their own? Yeah, he's one of those idiots that think anecdotal evidence means more than statistical evidence. --- People come up to me... concerned.. that I'll reproduce." - Emo Philips <cite>lihlih posted [p:924950201] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lirishae posted...</cite> <quote>LInkPizza, there's really nothing else to say to you. You are determined to ignore every fact, statistic and article I've posted based on nothing more than your own personal experiences, which you've admitted is at least partly outside the norm. If you want me to reply to you again, please post something tangible to debunk the articles and statistics I've provided. <cite>TentacleDemon posted...</cite> <quote>Like I pointed out earlier, women have such a high percentage of sexual violence compared to other violence against them because they tend to not get involved in all the other dumb s that men do that leads to violence against them</quote> So you think 1 in 5 women being raped is something to blow off? Half of women being sexually assaulted? Eighty percent being sexually harassed? And that there's equivalency between men "getting involved in dumb s*" that leads to violence, and violence directed at women through no fault of their own?</quote> Yeah, he's one of those idiots that think anecdotal evidence means more than statistical evidence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_tall_midget 07/20/19 4:08:35 PM #127:	Lirishae posted... So you think 1 in 5 women being raped is something to blow off? Half of women being sexually assaulted? Eighty percent being sexually harassed? And that there's equivalency between men "getting involved in dumb s*" that leads to violence, and violence directed at women through no fault of their own? I'm starting to see a pattern in your type of debating... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cls8ZURQRK4" data-time=" Spare us you're appointing argument to other people and appeal to emotions. The reality is that women are capable of great harm, violence, neglect, and harassment. There is a reason why the bulk of domestic violence is actually committed by women and why children raised in a home by single mothers (thank you biased law system) are more likely to be worse off in life. The difference is that society expects men to be accountable for their actions to a much higher degree. --- "There is no crisis at the border!" "The border crisis is manufactured!" "OMG! Look at that crisis at de border!" -Lol leftists. <cite>The_tall_midget posted [p:924950398] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lirishae posted...</cite> <quote>So you think 1 in 5 women being raped is something to blow off? Half of women being sexually assaulted? Eighty percent being sexually harassed? And that there's equivalency between men "getting involved in dumb s*" that leads to violence, and violence directed at women through no fault of their own?</quote> I'm starting to see a pattern in your type of debating... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cls8ZURQRK4" data-time=" Spare us you're appointing argument to other people and appeal to emotions. The reality is that women are capable of great harm, violence, neglect, and harassment. There is a reason why the bulk of domestic violence is actually committed by women and why children raised in a home by single mothers (thank you biased law system) are more likely to be worse off in life. The difference is that society expects men to be accountable for their actions to a much higher degree.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lirishae 07/20/19 4:25:14 PM #128:	The_tall_midget posted... I'm starting to see a pattern in your type of debating... Yeah, it's called posting facts and articles to back up my claims. You just posted a bunch of assertions with nothing to back them up. The_tall_midget posted... The reality is that women are capable of great harm, violence, neglect, and harassment. Capable of? Sure. Most often guilty of? Nope. Men commit most of the crime and most violent crime. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_crime The_tall_midget posted... There is a reason why the bulk of domestic violence is actually committed by women The Harvard study that issued that finding was retracted. Women do commit domestic violence, obviously, but still make up the majority of victims. https://domesticviolencestatistics.org/domestic-violence-statistics/ https://www.socialsolutions.com/blog/domestic-violence-statistics-2018/ The_tall_midget posted... why children raised in a home by single mothers (thank you biased law system) are more likely to be worse off in life. Judges generally place children with the primary caregiver, which is most often the mother. The reason why single-parent children are worse off is not because of their mothers, but their fathers' absence and lack of child support. --- "Little scratches on people's hearts will be gone if they pat them from behind, but the humans don't know that." -Li'l Cactus 3DS FC: 0619-3174-3155 <cite>Lirishae posted [p:924950984] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote><cite>The_tall_midget posted...</cite> <quote>I'm starting to see a pattern in your type of debating...</quote> Yeah, it's called posting facts and articles to back up my claims. You just posted a bunch of assertions with nothing to back them up. <cite>The_tall_midget posted...</cite> <quote>The reality is that women are capable of great harm, violence, neglect, and harassment.</quote> Capable of? Sure. Most often guilty of? Nope. Men commit most of the crime and most violent crime. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_crime <cite>The_tall_midget posted...</cite> <quote>There is a reason why the bulk of domestic violence is actually committed by women</quote> The Harvard study that issued that finding was retracted. Women do commit domestic violence, obviously, but still make up the majority of victims. https://domesticviolencestatistics.org/domestic-violence-statistics/ https://www.socialsolutions.com/blog/domestic-violence-statistics-2018/ <cite>The_tall_midget posted...</cite> <quote>why children raised in a home by single mothers (thank you biased law system) are more likely to be worse off in life.</quote> Judges generally place children with the primary caregiver, which is most often the mother. The reason why single-parent children are worse off is not because of their mothers, but their fathers' absence and lack of child support.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 07/20/19 4:33:45 PM #129:	Lirishae posted... LInkPizza, there's really nothing else to say to you. You are determined to ignore every fact, statistic and article I've posted based on nothing more than your own personal experiences, which you've admitted is at least partly outside the norm. If you want me to reply to you again, please post something tangible to debunk the articles and statistics I've provided. TentacleDemon posted... Like I pointed out earlier, women have such a high percentage of sexual violence compared to other violence against them because they tend to not get involved in all the other dumb s* that men do that leads to violence against them So you think 1 in 5 women being raped is something to blow off? Half of women being sexually assaulted? Eighty percent being sexually harassed? And that there's equivalency between men "getting involved in dumb s" that leads to violence, and violence directed at women through no fault of their own? I believe statistics when theres enough evidence to support them. But the problem is this case is there is not enough. We both know that many dont even report stuff of this nature, meaning that the statistics could be way off. Especially given the difference of how men and women deal with it. Thats why its hard to believe in these statistics. And as TD said, people can easily twist the numbers to fit their narrative. You take out something here, or add something there to give you better numbers. Also, its not only men getting into stuff of their own fault. When someone gets hit or attacked outside of a bar, its not always both guys fault. So, men can still get into more violent situations, even if its no fault of their own... --- Official King of Kings* Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:924951257] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lirishae posted...</cite> <quote>LInkPizza, there's really nothing else to say to you. You are determined to ignore every fact, statistic and article I've posted based on nothing more than your own personal experiences, which you've admitted is at least partly outside the norm. If you want me to reply to you again, please post something tangible to debunk the articles and statistics I've provided. <cite>TentacleDemon posted...</cite> <quote>Like I pointed out earlier, women have such a high percentage of sexual violence compared to other violence against them because they tend to not get involved in all the other dumb s* that men do that leads to violence against them</quote> So you think 1 in 5 women being raped is something to blow off? Half of women being sexually assaulted? Eighty percent being sexually harassed? And that there's equivalency between men "getting involved in dumb s*" that leads to violence, and violence directed at women through no fault of their own?</quote> I believe statistics when theres enough evidence to support them. But the problem is this case is there is not enough. We both know that many dont even report stuff of this nature, meaning that the statistics could be way off. Especially given the difference of how men and women deal with it. Thats why its hard to believe in these statistics. And as TD said, people can easily twist the numbers to fit their narrative. You take out something here, or add something there to give you better numbers. Also, its not only men getting into stuff of their own fault. When someone gets hit or attacked outside of a bar, its not always both guys fault. So, men can still get into more violent situations, even if its no fault of their own...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lirishae 07/20/19 4:59:57 PM #130:	LinkPizza posted... Thats why its hard to believe in these statistics. I have a strong feeling the real issue here is you don't want to believe the statistics. Either way, you don't seem to understand how they work. It's impossible to successfully query every single relevant person to form a 100% accurate conclusion. Instead, you conduct a scientific survey to create a sufficient sample size, and use this data to draw as accurate conclusions as possible. This article explains more about how it works. https://www.thoughtco.com/what-is-statistics-3126367 Unless you can provide a tangible critique of why the methodology behind current statistics is flawed, I'm going to choose to believe them over a random internet stranger's personal opinion. --- "Little scratches on people's hearts will be gone if they pat them from behind, but the humans don't know that." -Li'l Cactus 3DS FC: 0619-3174-3155 <cite>Lirishae posted [p:924952201] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Thats why its hard to believe in these statistics.</quote> I have a strong feeling the real issue here is you don't want to believe the statistics. Either way, you don't seem to understand how they work. It's impossible to successfully query every single relevant person to form a 100% accurate conclusion. Instead, you conduct a scientific survey to create a sufficient sample size, and use this data to draw as accurate conclusions as possible. This article explains more about how it works. https://www.thoughtco.com/what-is-statistics-3126367 Unless you can provide a tangible critique of why the methodology behind current statistics is flawed, I'm going to choose to believe them over a random internet stranger's personal opinion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_AdjI_ 07/20/19 5:14:22 PM #131:	LinkPizza posted... I believe statistics when theres enough evidence to support them. But the problem is this case is there is not enough. We both know that many dont even report stuff of this nature, meaning that the statistics could be way off. Especially given the difference of how men and women deal with it. Thats why its hard to believe in these statistics. You're discounting pretty extensive statistics based on a vague hunch that it might not be the whole story? Sure, there's often room to criticize the methodology of any given study, but that's something you have to do on a case by case basis. A sweeping dismissal of the metadata because you've recognized one of the challenges involved in conducting those studies is just baseless and silly. <cite>_AdjI_ posted [p:924952721] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>I believe statistics when theres enough evidence to support them. But the problem is this case is there is not enough. We both know that many dont even report stuff of this nature, meaning that the statistics could be way off. Especially given the difference of how men and women deal with it. Thats why its hard to believe in these statistics.</quote> You're discounting pretty extensive statistics based on a vague hunch that it might not be the whole story? Sure, there's often room to criticize the methodology of any given study, but that's something you have to do on a case by case basis. A sweeping dismissal of the metadata because you've recognized one of the challenges involved in conducting those studies is just baseless and silly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 07/20/19 5:25:52 PM #132:	Lirishae posted... LinkPizza posted... Thats why its hard to believe in these statistics. I have a strong feeling the real issue here is you don't want to believe the statistics. Either way, you don't seem to understand how they work. It's impossible to successfully query every single relevant person to form a 100% accurate conclusion. Instead, you conduct a scientific survey to create a sufficient sample size, and use this data to draw as accurate conclusions as possible. This article explains more about how it works. https://www.thoughtco.com/what-is-statistics-3126367 Unless you can provide a tangible critique of why the methodology behind current statistics is flawed, I'm going to choose to believe them over a random internet stranger's personal opinion. It has nothing with not wanting to believe the stats. I even said I think more women are probably victims of sexual assault. I just dont think we know enough to say how many more than women. And I also said in another post that its hard for most studies to get 100% accuracy. But I said its seems like it would be much harder for this type of crime that seems to go unreported more. We know there are a lot of people that dont report it. And you can see many people even this day coming out to report stuff that happened long ago. And thats probably not all of them. And there are men, too. And less men have come forward. But that could be for many reasons. Maybe its because there are less. I believe there are less. Or maybe its be cause of the time they grew up in, or not wanting to get certain people in trouble, or not wanting to look bad in front of others. Usually other studies have more accurate reports. If youre talking about only reported things, thats different. But also changes this whole topic. And honestly, you dont have to believe me. Ive said it before to others, and Ill say it again to you. Just like you said, were just random internet strangers. What you say doesnt matter much to me, either... Maybe Ill believe more of their statistics when theres more to go on rather than just educated guesses made with not enough information... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:924953128] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lirishae posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Thats why its hard to believe in these statistics.</quote> I have a strong feeling the real issue here is you don't want to believe the statistics. Either way, you don't seem to understand how they work. It's impossible to successfully query every single relevant person to form a 100% accurate conclusion. Instead, you conduct a scientific survey to create a sufficient sample size, and use this data to draw as accurate conclusions as possible. This article explains more about how it works. https://www.thoughtco.com/what-is-statistics-3126367 Unless you can provide a tangible critique of why the methodology behind current statistics is flawed, I'm going to choose to believe them over a random internet stranger's personal opinion.</quote> It has nothing with not wanting to believe the stats. I even said I think more women are probably victims of sexual assault. I just dont think we know enough to say how many more than women. And I also said in another post that its hard for most studies to get 100% accuracy. But I said its seems like it would be much harder for this type of crime that seems to go unreported more. We know there are a lot of people that dont report it. And you can see many people even this day coming out to report stuff that happened long ago. And thats probably not all of them. And there are men, too. And less men have come forward. But that could be for many reasons. Maybe its because there are less. I believe there are less. Or maybe its be cause of the time they grew up in, or not wanting to get certain people in trouble, or not wanting to look bad in front of others. Usually other studies have more accurate reports. If youre talking about only reported things, thats different. But also changes this whole topic. And honestly, you dont have to believe me. Ive said it before to others, and Ill say it again to you. Just like you said, were just random internet strangers. What you say doesnt matter much to me, either... Maybe Ill believe more of their statistics when theres more to go on rather than just educated guesses made with not enough information...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lihlih 07/20/19 5:37:12 PM #133:	Bruh, stop trying to convince him. He's the type that'll never believe statistical evidence over anecdotal evidence. --- People come up to me... concerned.. that I'll reproduce." - Emo Philips <cite>lihlih posted [p:924953543] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote>Bruh, stop trying to convince him. He's the type that'll never believe statistical evidence over anecdotal evidence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 07/20/19 6:00:00 PM #134:	lihlih posted... Bruh, stop trying to convince him. He's the type that'll never believe statistical evidence over anecdotal evidence. No. I said I dont believe in these statistics. There are ones I believe in and ones I dont. Please dont put words in my mouth. Especially ones that arent true. Especially since you dont know me that well... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:924954343] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote><cite>lihlih posted...</cite> <quote>Bruh, stop trying to convince him. He's the type that'll never believe statistical evidence over anecdotal evidence.</quote> No. I said I dont believe in these statistics. There are ones I believe in and ones I dont. Please dont put words in my mouth. Especially ones that arent true. Especially since you dont know me that well...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lihlih 07/20/19 6:52:25 PM #135:	LinkPizza posted... lihlih posted... Bruh, stop trying to convince him. He's the type that'll never believe statistical evidence over anecdotal evidence. No. I said I dont believe in these statistics. There are ones I believe in and ones I dont. Please dont put words in my mouth. Especially ones that arent true. Especially since you dont know me that well... I know you're very immature and have no idea how statistical data works. That's enough for me! --- People come up to me... concerned.. that I'll reproduce." - Emo Philips <cite>lihlih posted [p:924956288] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote><cite>lihlih posted...</cite> <quote>Bruh, stop trying to convince him. He's the type that'll never believe statistical evidence over anecdotal evidence.</quote> No. I said I dont believe in these statistics. There are ones I believe in and ones I dont. Please dont put words in my mouth. Especially ones that arent true. Especially since you dont know me that well...</quote> I know you're very immature and have no idea how statistical data works. That's enough for me!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 07/20/19 7:11:02 PM #136:	lihlih posted... LinkPizza posted... lihlih posted... Bruh, stop trying to convince him. He's the type that'll never believe statistical evidence over anecdotal evidence. No. I said I dont believe in these statistics. There are ones I believe in and ones I dont. Please dont put words in my mouth. Especially ones that arent true. Especially since you dont know me that well... I know you're very immature and have no idea how statistical data works. That's enough for me! So, again, you know nothing about me. You call me immature because I dont believe one thing you seem to have complete faith in. And say I dont know anything about statistical data because I dont believe in one of them. So, you know nothing about me and youre wrong. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:924956889] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote><cite>lihlih posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote><cite>lihlih posted...</cite> <quote>Bruh, stop trying to convince him. He's the type that'll never believe statistical evidence over anecdotal evidence.</quote> No. I said I dont believe in these statistics. There are ones I believe in and ones I dont. Please dont put words in my mouth. Especially ones that arent true. Especially since you dont know me that well...</quote> I know you're very immature and have no idea how statistical data works. That's enough for me!</quote> So, again, you know nothing about me. You call me immature because I dont believe one thing you seem to have complete faith in. And say I dont know anything about statistical data because I dont believe in one of them. So, you know nothing about me and youre wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lihlih 07/20/19 7:14:53 PM #137:	LinkPizza posted... lihlih posted... LinkPizza posted... lihlih posted... Bruh, stop trying to convince him. He's the type that'll never believe statistical evidence over anecdotal evidence. No. I said I dont believe in these statistics. There are ones I believe in and ones I dont. Please dont put words in my mouth. Especially ones that arent true. Especially since you dont know me that well... I know you're very immature and have no idea how statistical data works. That's enough for me! So, again, you know nothing about me. You call me immature because I dont believe one thing you seem to have complete faith in. And say I dont know anything about statistical data because I dont believe in one of them. So, you know nothing about me and youre wrong. I know you're immature because you think fart jokes are hilarious. I said that you don't know shit about statistical data because you're dismissing a huge sample size for a very small one of yours, anecdotal evidence. You have no idea why anecdotal evidence is shit, which makes you clueless. --- People come up to me... concerned.. that I'll reproduce." - Emo Philips <cite>lihlih posted [p:924957034] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote><cite>lihlih posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote><cite>lihlih posted...</cite> <quote>Bruh, stop trying to convince him. He's the type that'll never believe statistical evidence over anecdotal evidence.</quote> No. I said I dont believe in these statistics. There are ones I believe in and ones I dont. Please dont put words in my mouth. Especially ones that arent true. Especially since you dont know me that well...</quote> I know you're very immature and have no idea how statistical data works. That's enough for me!</quote> So, again, you know nothing about me. You call me immature because I dont believe one thing you seem to have complete faith in. And say I dont know anything about statistical data because I dont believe in one of them. So, you know nothing about me and youre wrong.</quote> I know you're immature because you think fart jokes are hilarious. I said that you don't know shit about statistical data because you're dismissing a huge sample size for a very small one of yours, anecdotal evidence. You have no idea why anecdotal evidence is shit, which makes you clueless.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 07/20/19 7:17:23 PM #138:	lihlih posted... LinkPizza posted... lihlih posted... LinkPizza posted... lihlih posted... Bruh, stop trying to convince him. He's the type that'll never believe statistical evidence over anecdotal evidence. No. I said I dont believe in these statistics. There are ones I believe in and ones I dont. Please dont put words in my mouth. Especially ones that arent true. Especially since you dont know me that well... I know you're very immature and have no idea how statistical data works. That's enough for me! So, again, you know nothing about me. You call me immature because I dont believe one thing you seem to have complete faith in. And say I dont know anything about statistical data because I dont believe in one of them. So, you know nothing about me and youre wrong. I know you're immature because you think fart jokes are hilarious. I said that you don't know shit about statistical data because you're dismissing a huge sample size for a very small one of yours, anecdotal evidence. You have no idea why anecdotal evidence is shit, which makes you clueless. No. Im not completely dismissing it. I just dont have complete faith in it. And not fully believing in one doesnt mean I know nothing about statistic data. It just means I dont have complete faith in it. So, youre still wrong on that one. And I dont think all fart jokes are funny. Only the refined ones. So, it immature, as well... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:924957124] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote><cite>lihlih posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote><cite>lihlih posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote><cite>lihlih posted...</cite> <quote>Bruh, stop trying to convince him. He's the type that'll never believe statistical evidence over anecdotal evidence.</quote> No. I said I dont believe in these statistics. There are ones I believe in and ones I dont. Please dont put words in my mouth. Especially ones that arent true. Especially since you dont know me that well...</quote> I know you're very immature and have no idea how statistical data works. That's enough for me!</quote> So, again, you know nothing about me. You call me immature because I dont believe one thing you seem to have complete faith in. And say I dont know anything about statistical data because I dont believe in one of them. So, you know nothing about me and youre wrong.</quote> I know you're immature because you think fart jokes are hilarious. I said that you don't know shit about statistical data because you're dismissing a huge sample size for a very small one of yours, anecdotal evidence. You have no idea why anecdotal evidence is shit, which makes you clueless.</quote> No. Im not completely dismissing it. I just dont have complete faith in it. And not fully believing in one doesnt mean I know nothing about statistic data. It just means I dont have complete faith in it. So, youre still wrong on that one. And I dont think all fart jokes are funny. Only the refined ones. So, it immature, as well...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lirishae 07/20/19 7:20:10 PM #139:	Seriously, if no one is going to post any kind of statistic, study or article to back up their assertion, I'm done after this post. LinkPizza posted... Just like you said, were just random internet strangers. What you say doesnt matter much to me, either... I'm not asking you to believe me because I said it. I'm asking you to believe me because I posted facts, statistics and articles from people who study and underestand this stuff. But you don't seem to be reading any of it, or if you are, you aren't addressing it at all. LinkPizza posted... And say I dont know anything about statistical data because I dont believe in one of them. Do you distrust all statistical data then? Or just statistics that you personally don't like? Did you even read the link to learn how statistics work? --- "Little scratches on people's hearts will be gone if they pat them from behind, but the humans don't know that." -Li'l Cactus 3DS FC: 0619-3174-3155 <cite>Lirishae posted [p:924957256] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote>Seriously, if no one is going to post any kind of statistic, study or article to back up their assertion, I'm done after this post. <cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Just like you said, were just random internet strangers. What you say doesnt matter much to me, either...</quote> I'm not asking you to believe me because I said it. I'm asking you to believe me because I posted facts, statistics and articles from people who study and underestand this stuff. But you don't seem to be reading any of it, or if you are, you aren't addressing it at all. <cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>And say I dont know anything about statistical data because I dont believe in one of them.</quote> Do you distrust all statistical data then? Or just statistics that you personally don't like? Did you even read the link to learn how statistics work?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 07/20/19 7:29:00 PM #140:	Lirishae posted... LinkPizza posted... Just like you said, were just random internet strangers. What you say doesnt matter much to me, either... I'm not asking you to believe me because I said it. I'm asking you to believe me because I posted facts, statistics and articles from people who study and underestand this stuff. But you don't seem to be reading any of it, or if you are, you aren't addressing it at all. I have. I just said that I dont think theres enough data to have a very accurate amount. Maybe ballpark amount, but even then... Lirishae posted... LinkPizza posted... And say I dont know anything about statistical data because I dont believe in one of them. Do you distrust all statistical data then? Or just statistics that you personally don't like? Did you even read the link to learn how statistics work? I believe ones with a lot of data. This one just doesnt seem to have enough. Thats just what it seems like based on whats actually reported. Especially now with all the new reports. And even a bunch of false ones where people are admitting to it. It just seems like the data isnt as accurate as it could be. As I said earlier, I didnt completely dismiss it. I do believe woman account for more sexual violence. I dont know how much more, though. I just dont think its that accurate. Thats all. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:924957612] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lirishae posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Just like you said, were just random internet strangers. What you say doesnt matter much to me, either...</quote> I'm not asking you to believe me because I said it. I'm asking you to believe me because I posted facts, statistics and articles from people who study and underestand this stuff. But you don't seem to be reading any of it, or if you are, you aren't addressing it at all.</quote> I have. I just said that I dont think theres enough data to have a very accurate amount. Maybe ballpark amount, but even then... <cite>Lirishae posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>And say I dont know anything about statistical data because I dont believe in one of them.</quote> Do you distrust all statistical data then? Or just statistics that you personally don't like? Did you even read the link to learn how statistics work?</quote> I believe ones with a lot of data. This one just doesnt seem to have enough. Thats just what it seems like based on whats actually reported. Especially now with all the new reports. And even a bunch of false ones where people are admitting to it. It just seems like the data isnt as accurate as it could be. As I said earlier, I didnt completely dismiss it. I do believe woman account for more sexual violence. I dont know how much more, though. I just dont think its that accurate. Thats all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lihlih 07/20/19 11:49:50 PM #141:	See? You're ignoring bigass statistical data because it doesn't match your anecdotal data, which is nonsensical and is telling of how limited your knowledge of statistics is. Once your get a big enough pool of data, some outliers like people not reporting doesn't matter, because of the law of averages. Also, if not every woman reports their sexual attacks, that supports the idea that women are even more at risk that the status show, not the opposite. --- People come up to me... concerned.. that I'll reproduce." - Emo Philips <cite>lihlih posted [p:924967341] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote>See? You're ignoring bigass statistical data because it doesn't match your anecdotal data, which is nonsensical and is telling of how limited your knowledge of statistics is. Once your get a big enough pool of data, some outliers like people not reporting doesn't matter, because of the law of averages. Also, if not every woman reports their sexual attacks, that supports the idea that women are even more at risk that the status show, not the opposite.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 07/21/19 12:00:58 AM #142:	lihlih posted... See? You're ignoring bigass statistical data because it doesn't match your anecdotal data, which is nonsensical and is telling of how limited your knowledge of statistics is. Once your get a big enough pool of data, some outliers like people not reporting doesn't matter, because of the law of averages. Also, if not every woman reports their sexual attacks, that supports the idea that women are even more at risk that the status show, not the opposite. I even said that myself. I said that a bunch of women also dont report. But I dont see how the data pool is that big when so many people from both genders dont report. Thats why I have trouble believing the data is accurate. People keep saying the data pool is big, but its hard to for me to believe that given that so much data is not reported. And as I said, having low faith in one statistic doesnt mean I know nothing about statistic. It just means I have low faith in it. It doesnt mean I know nothing of the whole subject. It just means I have low faith in one part of the subject. Youre acting like I have to believe every single statistic with 100% to know anything about the subject at all. And I think a person who just blindly believes in statistics 100% is actually the one who doesnt know anything about them... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:924967735] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote><cite>lihlih posted...</cite> <quote>See? You're ignoring bigass statistical data because it doesn't match your anecdotal data, which is nonsensical and is telling of how limited your knowledge of statistics is. Once your get a big enough pool of data, some outliers like people not reporting doesn't matter, because of the law of averages. Also, if not every woman reports their sexual attacks, that supports the idea that women are even more at risk that the status show, not the opposite.</quote> I even said that myself. I said that a bunch of women also dont report. But I dont see how the data pool is that big when so many people from both genders dont report. Thats why I have trouble believing the data is accurate. People keep saying the data pool is big, but its hard to for me to believe that given that so much data is not reported. And as I said, having low faith in one statistic doesnt mean I know nothing about statistic. It just means I have low faith in it. It doesnt mean I know nothing of the whole subject. It just means I have low faith in one part of the subject. Youre acting like I have to believe every single statistic with 100% to know anything about the subject at all. And I think a person who just blindly believes in statistics 100% is actually the one who doesnt know anything about them...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
greenmist01 07/21/19 6:38:47 AM #143:	I dont know if in the eyes of the law, it be seen as rape or not, but ethically it is a very scummy thing to do i think. Think about it.........your enticing a woman to leisurely consume a substance all in the goal of rendering her so she doesnt think and act on her better judgement (and you know the alcohol or the weed will have that effect), so she is more likely to have sex with you. Your just seeing her and treating her like an object, like a piece of meat. She certainly wont thank you for it if she knew that was your intention. And im a male by the way. <cite>greenmist01 posted [p:924975685] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote>I dont know if in the eyes of the law, it be seen as rape or not, but ethically it is a very scummy thing to do i think. Think about it.........your enticing a woman to leisurely consume a substance all in the goal of rendering her so she doesnt think and act on her better judgement (and you know the alcohol or the weed will have that effect), so she is more likely to have sex with you. Your just seeing her and treating her like an object, like a piece of meat. She certainly wont thank you for it if she knew that was your intention. And im a male by the way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dioxxys 07/21/19 7:06:54 AM #144:	Does anyone want to actually explain better what implications means? Woman and man are alone "We are alone together don't you understand the implications? We might as well have sex since that's already what people think we are doing, okay? lolololol" <cite>dioxxys posted [p:924976066] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote>Does anyone want to actually explain better what implications means? Woman and man are alone "We are alone together don't you understand the implications? We might as well have sex since that's already what people think we are doing, okay? lolololol"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 07/21/19 7:44:34 AM #145:	dioxxys posted... Does anyone want to actually explain better what implications means? Woman and man are alone "We are alone together don't you understand the implications? We might as well have sex since that's already what people think we are doing, okay? lolololol" The implications in this context means creating an environment or scenario where a woman believes she may be harmed if she refuses sexual advances --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:924976601] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote><cite>dioxxys posted...</cite> <quote>Does anyone want to actually explain better what implications means? Woman and man are alone "We are alone together don't you understand the implications? We might as well have sex since that's already what people think we are doing, okay? lolololol"</quote> The implications in this context means creating an environment or scenario where a woman believes she may be harmed if she refuses sexual advances</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dioxxys 07/21/19 8:10:22 AM #147:	Mead posted... dioxxys posted... Does anyone want to actually explain better what implications means? Woman and man are alone "We are alone together don't you understand the implications? We might as well have sex since that's already what people think we are doing, okay? lolololol" The implications in this context means creating an environment or scenario where a woman believes she may be harmed if she refuses sexual advances Oh thanks. At first glance that sounds like while it's not rape, its just as bad. <cite>dioxxys posted [p:924977010] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dioxxys posted...</cite> <quote>Does anyone want to actually explain better what implications means? Woman and man are alone "We are alone together don't you understand the implications? We might as well have sex since that's already what people think we are doing, okay? lolololol"</quote> The implications in this context means creating an environment or scenario where a woman believes she may be harmed if she refuses sexual advances</quote> Oh thanks. At first glance that sounds like while it's not rape, its just as bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_AdjI_ 07/21/19 10:36:09 AM #148:	dioxxys posted... Mead posted... dioxxys posted... Does anyone want to actually explain better what implications means? Woman and man are alone "We are alone together don't you understand the implications? We might as well have sex since that's already what people think we are doing, okay? lolololol" The implications in this context means creating an environment or scenario where a woman believes she may be harmed if she refuses sexual advances Oh thanks. At first glance that sounds like while it's not rape, its just as bad. As I said earlier, it's less a matter of "is this rape?", and more "is this fully, properly consensual?". It may not land you in jail, but it certainly won't leave your partner feeling happy and comfortable about the encounter, and it's that latter standard that everyone should be striving for every time they have sex. So many of these discussions around consent seem to forget that. <cite>_AdjI_ posted [p:924980042] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote><cite>dioxxys posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dioxxys posted...</cite> <quote>Does anyone want to actually explain better what implications means? Woman and man are alone "We are alone together don't you understand the implications? We might as well have sex since that's already what people think we are doing, okay? lolololol"</quote> The implications in this context means creating an environment or scenario where a woman believes she may be harmed if she refuses sexual advances</quote> Oh thanks. At first glance that sounds like while it's not rape, its just as bad.</quote> As I said earlier, it's less a matter of "is this rape?", and more "is this fully, properly consensual?". It may not land you in jail, but it certainly won't leave your partner feeling happy and comfortable about the encounter, and it's that latter standard that everyone should be striving for every time they have sex. So many of these discussions around consent seem to forget that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Extreme_light 07/21/19 11:26:50 AM #149:	I still don't understand the question but coercion ->getting a girl alone/making her uncomfortable to the point where she feel she has to have sex, is rape. But if it's just a suggestion of sex and they do it, then it's fine. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC7BAt96Xn0 <cite>Extreme_light posted [p:924981367] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote>I still don't understand the question but coercion ->getting a girl alone/making her uncomfortable to the point where she feel she has to have sex, is rape. But if it's just a suggestion of sex and they do it, then it's fine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
greenmist01 07/23/19 3:45:14 PM #150:	Apparently in Sweden......(correct me if im wrong here), apparently, if a woman consents to sex with a man, provided he wears a condom, but during the sex, the man takes off the condom, and then puts his penis into her vagina and continues the sex, its rape. <cite>greenmist01 posted [p:925081460] in Do you guy... [t:77871100]...</cite> <quote>Apparently in Sweden......(correct me if im wrong here), apparently, if a woman consents to sex with a man, provided he wears a condom, but during the sex, the man takes off the condom, and then puts his penis into her vagina and continues the sex, its rape.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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