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OctilIery 08/25/19 8:55:00 AM #51:	UnfairRepresent posted... OctilIery posted... The Admiral posted... OctilIery posted... So Idaho will be hit with a massive fine and make the situation worse for themselves. Not under this administration. Yes, even under this administration they'll be punished for ignoring a supreme court order and breaking the law. Don't be so sure about that. It's not going to reach the federal level since this is a ruling from the state court, so this crap administration won't touch it. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:926521604] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted... </cite> <quote>So Idaho will be hit with a massive fine and make the situation worse for themselves.</quote> Not under this administration. </quote> Yes, even under this administration they'll be punished for ignoring a supreme court order and breaking the law.</quote> Don't be so sure about that.</quote> It's not going to reach the federal level since this is a ruling from the state court, so this crap administration won't touch it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 08/25/19 9:48:25 AM #52:	UnfairRepresent posted... Rika_Furude posted... shockthemonkey posted... A person is trying to castrate themselves, they need medical care. The person is in prison, therefore the prison is responsible for it. Seems pretty reasonable. Its completely unreasonable. Id rather my taxpayer money go towards someones surgery who is not a criminal in prison. Wait what You think people in prison shouldn't get medical care? Prisoners with broken legs shouldn't get treated? Diabetics shouldn't get insulin? Prisoners with heart attaks shouldn't get coronary artery bypass surgery? I can't agree with that for a second, what kind of take is that? Quote where I said any of that. --- https://imgur.com/oQHLBrx https://imgur.com/ah5IE8D https://imgur.com/USV84z9 https://imgur.com/PSjlohO <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:926522691] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>A person is trying to castrate themselves, they need medical care. The person is in prison, therefore the prison is responsible for it. Seems pretty reasonable.</quote> Its completely unreasonable. Id rather my taxpayer money go towards someones surgery who is not a criminal in prison.</quote> Wait what You think people in prison shouldn't get medical care? Prisoners with broken legs shouldn't get treated? Diabetics shouldn't get insulin? Prisoners with heart attaks shouldn't get coronary artery bypass surgery? I can't agree with that for a second, what kind of take is that?</quote> Quote where I said any of that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 08/25/19 9:57:49 AM #54:	shockthemonkey posted... Kensaimage posted... shockthemonkey posted... Rika_Furude posted... shockthemonkey posted... A person is trying to castrate themselves, they need medical care. The person is in prison, therefore the prison is responsible for it. Seems pretty reasonable. Its completely unreasonable. Id rather my taxpayer money go towards someones surgery who is not a criminal in prison. Yeah but you fucking cry every time trans people are brought up so who the fuck cares Dude, your so obsessed with social justice that your more concerned with this child molester getting a sex change operation at tax payer expense than the perpetrator do his fucking time like everyone else that goes to prison. Fuck no taxpayers shouldnt have to pay for it Im not sorry that even pieces of shit have human rights more rights than law abiding citizens according to you and UR --- https://imgur.com/oQHLBrx https://imgur.com/ah5IE8D https://imgur.com/USV84z9 https://imgur.com/PSjlohO <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:926522894] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Kensaimage posted...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>A person is trying to castrate themselves, they need medical care. The person is in prison, therefore the prison is responsible for it. Seems pretty reasonable.</quote> Its completely unreasonable. Id rather my taxpayer money go towards someones surgery who is not a criminal in prison.</quote> Yeah but you fucking cry every time trans people are brought up so who the fuck cares</quote> Dude, your so obsessed with social justice that your more concerned with this child molester getting a sex change operation at tax payer expense than the perpetrator do his fucking time like everyone else that goes to prison. Fuck no taxpayers shouldnt have to pay for it</quote> Im not sorry that even pieces of shit have human rights</quote> more rights than law abiding citizens according to you and UR</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OctilIery 08/25/19 10:05:04 AM #56:	Rika_Furude posted... shockthemonkey posted... Kensaimage posted... shockthemonkey posted... Rika_Furude posted... shockthemonkey posted... A person is trying to castrate themselves, they need medical care. The person is in prison, therefore the prison is responsible for it. Seems pretty reasonable. Its completely unreasonable. Id rather my taxpayer money go towards someones surgery who is not a criminal in prison. Yeah but you fucking cry every time trans people are brought up so who the fuck cares Dude, your so obsessed with social justice that your more concerned with this child molester getting a sex change operation at tax payer expense than the perpetrator do his fucking time like everyone else that goes to prison. Fuck no taxpayers shouldnt have to pay for it Im not sorry that even pieces of shit have human rights more rights than law abiding citizens according to you and UR "They have these perfectly reasonable rights law abiding citizens should have!" "Well, should we give law abiding citizens those rights?" "No, lets just take them away from everyone" <cite>OctilIery posted [p:926523042] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Kensaimage posted...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>A person is trying to castrate themselves, they need medical care. The person is in prison, therefore the prison is responsible for it. Seems pretty reasonable.</quote> Its completely unreasonable. Id rather my taxpayer money go towards someones surgery who is not a criminal in prison.</quote> Yeah but you fucking cry every time trans people are brought up so who the fuck cares</quote> Dude, your so obsessed with social justice that your more concerned with this child molester getting a sex change operation at tax payer expense than the perpetrator do his fucking time like everyone else that goes to prison. Fuck no taxpayers shouldnt have to pay for it</quote> Im not sorry that even pieces of shit have human rights</quote> more rights than law abiding citizens according to you and UR</quote> "They have these perfectly reasonable rights law abiding citizens should have!" "Well, should we give law abiding citizens those rights?" "No, lets just take them away from everyone"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 08/25/19 10:05:30 AM #57:	I'm not sorry that I believe people who follow the law deserve preferential treatment to those who abuse society. --- https://imgur.com/oQHLBrx https://imgur.com/ah5IE8D https://imgur.com/USV84z9 https://imgur.com/PSjlohO <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:926523052] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>I'm not sorry that I believe people who follow the law deserve preferential treatment to those who abuse society.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 08/25/19 10:06:36 AM #58:	Rika_Furude posted... I'm not sorry that I believe people who follow the law deserve preferential treatment to those who abuse society. Except that's the thing. You aren't even arguing for preferential treatment(which, by the way, they absolutely still have) you're arguing that because they get something you don't, nobody should get it. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:926523087] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not sorry that I believe people who follow the law deserve preferential treatment to those who abuse society.</quote> Except that's the thing. You aren't even arguing for preferential treatment(which, by the way, they absolutely still have) you're arguing that because they get something you don't, nobody should get it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 08/25/19 10:08:50 AM #60:	OctilIery posted... you're arguing that because they get something you don't, nobody should get it octillery post tm You dislike me as a person, and therefore you put this up as a strawman. This isn't something I have ever said. Youre blinded by your own hate. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:926523152] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote> you're arguing that because they get something you don't, nobody should get it</quote> octillery post tm You dislike me as a person, and therefore you put this up as a strawman. This isn't something I have ever said. Youre blinded by your own hate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsugarized_Foo 08/25/19 10:13:37 AM #61:	I mean, castration is fine --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:926523264] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>I mean, castration is fine </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 08/25/19 10:18:45 AM #62:	Rika_Furude posted... OctilIery posted... you're arguing that because they get something you don't, nobody should get it octillery post tm You dislike me as a person, and therefore you put this up as a strawman. This isn't something I have ever said. Youre blinded by your own hate. No, it's literally your argument here. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:926523368] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote> you're arguing that because they get something you don't, nobody should get it</quote> octillery post tm You dislike me as a person, and therefore you put this up as a strawman. This isn't something I have ever said. Youre blinded by your own hate.</quote> No, it's literally your argument here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 08/25/19 11:01:25 AM #63:	Rika_Furude posted... shockthemonkey posted... Kensaimage posted... shockthemonkey posted... Rika_Furude posted... shockthemonkey posted... A person is trying to castrate themselves, they need medical care. The person is in prison, therefore the prison is responsible for it. Seems pretty reasonable. Its completely unreasonable. Id rather my taxpayer money go towards someones surgery who is not a criminal in prison. Yeah but you fucking cry every time trans people are brought up so who the fuck cares Dude, your so obsessed with social justice that your more concerned with this child molester getting a sex change operation at tax payer expense than the perpetrator do his fucking time like everyone else that goes to prison. Fuck no taxpayers shouldnt have to pay for it Im not sorry that even pieces of shit have human rights more rights than law abiding citizens according to you and UR wut --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:926524419] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Kensaimage posted...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>A person is trying to castrate themselves, they need medical care. The person is in prison, therefore the prison is responsible for it. Seems pretty reasonable.</quote> Its completely unreasonable. Id rather my taxpayer money go towards someones surgery who is not a criminal in prison.</quote> Yeah but you fucking cry every time trans people are brought up so who the fuck cares</quote> Dude, your so obsessed with social justice that your more concerned with this child molester getting a sex change operation at tax payer expense than the perpetrator do his fucking time like everyone else that goes to prison. Fuck no taxpayers shouldnt have to pay for it</quote> Im not sorry that even pieces of shit have human rights</quote> more rights than law abiding citizens according to you and UR</quote> wut</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CanuckCowboy 08/25/19 11:53:46 AM #64:	UnfairRepresent posted... Paragon21XX posted... This sets a bad precedent if upheld: can't afford SRS? Commit a crime that lands you in prison and demand the state pay for it citing the 8th if they refuse. I don't think that's a realistic concern. People aren't going to go to prison let alone become sex offenders just for free gender surgery. I think you're only thinking that way because you're reading the story online and aren't seeing the day to day life of being in prison, going through court, what it does to your family, your career prospects etc People intentionally get caught for shelter and food. --- "I got a rolla truc, look" ~ sleaford mods "The most tender place in my heart is for strangers." ~ neko case <cite>CanuckCowboy posted [p:926525915] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Paragon21XX posted...</cite> <quote>This sets a bad precedent if upheld: can't afford SRS? Commit a crime that lands you in prison and demand the state pay for it citing the 8th if they refuse.</quote> I don't think that's a realistic concern. People aren't going to go to prison let alone become sex offenders just for free gender surgery. I think you're only thinking that way because you're reading the story online and aren't seeing the day to day life of being in prison, going through court, what it does to your family, your career prospects etc</quote> People intentionally get caught for shelter and food.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsugarized_Foo 08/25/19 2:46:46 PM #65:	Honestly, this seems to be an act of guilt and shame that they couldn't stop themself from going on to someone underaged. That might explain the selfcastration attempts then you might not like being a nutless man --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:926531350] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>Honestly, this seems to be an act of guilt and shame that they couldn't stop themself from going on to someone underaged. That might explain the selfcastration attempts then you might not like being a nutless man </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 08/25/19 3:22:21 PM #66:	OctilIery posted... Rika_Furude posted... OctilIery posted... you're arguing that because they get something you don't, nobody should get it octillery post tm You dislike me as a person, and therefore you put this up as a strawman. This isn't something I have ever said. Youre blinded by your own hate. No, it's literally your argument here. Quote it --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:926532561] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote> you're arguing that because they get something you don't, nobody should get it </quote> octillery post tm You dislike me as a person, and therefore you put this up as a strawman. This isn't something I have ever said. Youre blinded by your own hate.</quote> No, it's literally your argument here.</quote> Quote it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 08/26/19 10:42:03 AM #67:	CanuckCowboy posted... UnfairRepresent posted... Paragon21XX posted... This sets a bad precedent if upheld: can't afford SRS? Commit a crime that lands you in prison and demand the state pay for it citing the 8th if they refuse. I don't think that's a realistic concern. People aren't going to go to prison let alone become sex offenders just for free gender surgery. I think you're only thinking that way because you're reading the story online and aren't seeing the day to day life of being in prison, going through court, what it does to your family, your career prospects etc People intentionally get caught for shelter and food. Speaking as someone who has worked for years with the homeless, drug addicts and people with mental health problems, who directly knows people who have chosen homelessness over housing and wanted to stay in prison. I have never heard of anyone ever commiting sexual assault of minors to go to prison. It's not a factor. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:926562344] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>CanuckCowboy posted...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Paragon21XX posted...</cite> <quote>This sets a bad precedent if upheld: can't afford SRS? Commit a crime that lands you in prison and demand the state pay for it citing the 8th if they refuse.</quote> I don't think that's a realistic concern. People aren't going to go to prison let alone become sex offenders just for free gender surgery. I think you're only thinking that way because you're reading the story online and aren't seeing the day to day life of being in prison, going through court, what it does to your family, your career prospects etc</quote> People intentionally get caught for shelter and food.</quote> Speaking as someone who has worked for years with the homeless, drug addicts and people with mental health problems, who directly knows people who have chosen homelessness over housing and wanted to stay in prison. I have never heard of anyone ever commiting sexual assault of minors to go to prison. It's not a factor.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WolfFangHowell 08/27/19 4:34:36 PM #68:	If I get locked up, Im gonna say Im suicidal and tape a carrot to my groin and sue if they dont give me surgery to have two penises. I feel less than human not having two penises and its Idaho's fault. --- "Needless to say that drumset looked worse than Emmit Till during his funeral viewing." ---Brock HCTP <cite>WolfFangHowell posted [p:926619414] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>If I get locked up, Im gonna say Im suicidal and tape a carrot to my groin and sue if they dont give me surgery to have two penises. I feel less than human not having two penises and its Idaho's fault.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 08/28/19 6:06:13 PM #69:	Why did you delete that? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:926668171] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>Why did you delete that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 08/28/19 10:52:53 PM #70:	UnfairRepresent posted... CanuckCowboy posted... UnfairRepresent posted... Paragon21XX posted... This sets a bad precedent if upheld: can't afford SRS? Commit a crime that lands you in prison and demand the state pay for it citing the 8th if they refuse. I don't think that's a realistic concern. People aren't going to go to prison let alone become sex offenders just for free gender surgery. I think you're only thinking that way because you're reading the story online and aren't seeing the day to day life of being in prison, going through court, what it does to your family, your career prospects etc People intentionally get caught for shelter and food. Speaking as someone who has worked for years with the homeless, drug addicts and people with mental health problems, who directly knows people who have chosen homelessness over housing and wanted to stay in prison. I have never heard of anyone ever commiting sexual assault of minors to go to prison. It's not a factor. Ive heard of people committing crime specifically to go to prison to get free shelter and food. It absolutely is a realistic factor. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:926679208] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote> CanuckCowboy posted...</cite> <quote> UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote> Paragon21XX posted...</cite> <quote> This sets a bad precedent if upheld: can't afford SRS? Commit a crime that lands you in prison and demand the state pay for it citing the 8th if they refuse. </quote> I don't think that's a realistic concern. People aren't going to go to prison let alone become sex offenders just for free gender surgery. I think you're only thinking that way because you're reading the story online and aren't seeing the day to day life of being in prison, going through court, what it does to your family, your career prospects etc </quote> People intentionally get caught for shelter and food. </quote> Speaking as someone who has worked for years with the homeless, drug addicts and people with mental health problems, who directly knows people who have chosen homelessness over housing and wanted to stay in prison. I have never heard of anyone ever commiting sexual assault of minors to go to prison. It's not a factor.</quote> Ive heard of people committing crime specifically to go to prison to get free shelter and food. It absolutely is a realistic factor.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shnangyboos 08/28/19 11:11:07 PM #71:	Seems like the argument boils down to whether or not you agree that srs is necessary medical care. --- How's my posting? Call http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/182361-human-resource-machine for any comments or concerns. <cite>shnangyboos posted [p:926679829] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>Seems like the argument boils down to whether or not you agree that srs is necessary medical care. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 08/29/19 1:46:54 AM #72:	shnangyboos posted... Seems like the argument boils down to whether or not you agree that srs is necessary medical care. Yup. Either you're right and agree it is, or you're wrong. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:926684323] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>shnangyboos posted...</cite> <quote>Seems like the argument boils down to whether or not you agree that srs is necessary medical care. </quote> Yup. Either you're right and agree it is, or you're wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctaviaMelody30 08/29/19 1:48:56 AM #73:	Let the person be granted the procedure but leave the bill with them as well. <cite>OctaviaMelody30 posted [p:926684369] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>Let the person be granted the procedure but leave the bill with them as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crazyman93 08/29/19 1:50:16 AM #74:	UnfairRepresent posted... They're arguing that withholding the treatment violates the Consitution due to being cruel and unusual punishment. Uh huh. And what did the criminal do? UnfairRepresent posted... inmate Adree Edmo, who is serving a 10-year sentence for sexually abusing a 15-year-old boy at the age of 22. Ah. I see. Child abuse. ... Fuck them and their desires. They can be glad that the prison hasn't stopped the other inmates from gutting them in the shower. --- let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks <cite>Crazyman93 posted [p:926684390] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>They're arguing that withholding the treatment violates the Consitution due to being cruel and unusual punishment. </quote> Uh huh. And what did the criminal do? UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>inmate Adree Edmo, who is serving a 10-year sentence for sexually abusing a 15-year-old boy at the age of 22. </quote> Ah. I see. Child abuse. ... Fuck them and their desires. They can be glad that the prison hasn't stopped the other inmates from gutting them in the shower.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 08/29/19 1:50:24 AM #75:	OctaviaMelody30 posted... Let the person be granted the procedure but leave the bill with them as well. Nope. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:926684393] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>OctaviaMelody30 posted...</cite> <quote>Let the person be granted the procedure but leave the bill with them as well.</quote> Nope.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 08/29/19 2:58:22 AM #76:	Why is octillery so biased? Hes not even reasonable about it, hes hostile and provocative. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:926685788] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>Why is octillery so biased? Hes not even reasonable about it, hes hostile and provocative.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crazyman93 08/29/19 3:58:08 AM #77:	Rika_Furude posted... Why is octillery so biased? Hes not even reasonable about it, hes hostile and provocative. I'll be honest, compared to Rebel, Octillery comes off as nearly reasonable sometimes. Rebel is just flat out hostile right out of the gate. You have to work OCtillery up to it. --- let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks <cite>Crazyman93 posted [p:926686690] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>Why is octillery so biased? Hes not even reasonable about it, hes hostile and provocative.</quote> I'll be honest, compared to Rebel, Octillery comes off as nearly reasonable sometimes. Rebel is just flat out hostile right out of the gate. You have to work OCtillery up to it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 08/29/19 4:22:57 AM #78:	Crazyman93 posted... Rika_Furude posted... Why is octillery so biased? Hes not even reasonable about it, hes hostile and provocative. I'll be honest, compared to Rebel, Octillery comes off as nearly reasonable sometimes. Rebel is just flat out hostile right out of the gate. You have to work OCtillery up to it. You really just have to take non-awful stances. I'm pretty reasonable if you aren't being awful, most of the time :P <cite>OctilIery posted [p:926687007] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>Crazyman93 posted...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>Why is octillery so biased? Hes not even reasonable about it, hes hostile and provocative.</quote> I'll be honest, compared to Rebel, Octillery comes off as nearly reasonable sometimes. Rebel is just flat out hostile right out of the gate. You have to work OCtillery up to it.</quote> You really just have to take non-awful stances. I'm pretty reasonable if you aren't being awful, most of the time :P</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crazyman93 08/29/19 4:45:12 AM #79:	OctilIery posted... Crazyman93 posted... Rika_Furude posted... Why is octillery so biased? Hes not even reasonable about it, hes hostile and provocative. I'll be honest, compared to Rebel, Octillery comes off as nearly reasonable sometimes. Rebel is just flat out hostile right out of the gate. You have to work OCtillery up to it. You really just have to take non-awful stances. I'm pretty reasonable if you aren't being awful, most of the time :P Yeah, we've agreed before. Rebel is just all around unpleasant. All the time. And not just about politics. --- let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks <cite>Crazyman93 posted [p:926687322] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>Crazyman93 posted...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>Why is octillery so biased? Hes not even reasonable about it, hes hostile and provocative.</quote> I'll be honest, compared to Rebel, Octillery comes off as nearly reasonable sometimes. Rebel is just flat out hostile right out of the gate. You have to work OCtillery up to it.</quote> You really just have to take non-awful stances. I'm pretty reasonable if you aren't being awful, most of the time :P</quote> Yeah, we've agreed before. Rebel is just all around unpleasant. All the time. And not just about politics.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 08/29/19 5:52:15 AM #80:	Crazyman93 posted... OctilIery posted... Crazyman93 posted... Rika_Furude posted... Why is octillery so biased? Hes not even reasonable about it, hes hostile and provocative. I'll be honest, compared to Rebel, Octillery comes off as nearly reasonable sometimes. Rebel is just flat out hostile right out of the gate. You have to work OCtillery up to it. You really just have to take non-awful stances. I'm pretty reasonable if you aren't being awful, most of the time :P Yeah, we've agreed before. Rebel is just all around unpleasant. All the time. And not just about politics. Yeah, he is...just not a good person, from what I've seen. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:926688248] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>Crazyman93 posted...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>Crazyman93 posted...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>Why is octillery so biased? Hes not even reasonable about it, hes hostile and provocative.</quote> I'll be honest, compared to Rebel, Octillery comes off as nearly reasonable sometimes. Rebel is just flat out hostile right out of the gate. You have to work OCtillery up to it.</quote> You really just have to take non-awful stances. I'm pretty reasonable if you aren't being awful, most of the time :P</quote> Yeah, we've agreed before. Rebel is just all around unpleasant. All the time. And not just about politics.</quote> Yeah, he is...just not a good person, from what I've seen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jumi 08/29/19 5:57:53 AM #81:	On the one hand, we need universal health care in this country, and srs should be a part of it. On the other hand, why should this woman get srs for free for committing a crime, when law-abiding citizens who are transgender have to pay it themselves or get insurance? She shouldn't get it for free (or on the government's dime) until everyone who needs it can as well. But yeah, send her to a female prison. --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers <cite>jumi posted [p:926688302] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>On the one hand, we need universal health care in this country, and srs should be a part of it. On the other hand, why should this woman get srs for free for committing a crime, when law-abiding citizens who are transgender have to pay it themselves or get insurance? She shouldn't get it for free (or on the government's dime) until everyone who needs it can as well. But yeah, send her to a female prison. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MudKip_Master 08/29/19 5:58:43 AM #82:	OctilIery posted... OctaviaMelody30 posted... Let the person be granted the procedure but leave the bill with them as well. Nope. Why not? Seems pretty fair <cite>MudKip_Master posted [p:926688307] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>OctaviaMelody30 posted...</cite> <quote>Let the person be granted the procedure but leave the bill with them as well.</quote> Nope.</quote> Why not? Seems pretty fair</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 08/29/19 6:03:36 AM #84:	MudKip_Master posted... OctilIery posted... OctaviaMelody30 posted... Let the person be granted the procedure but leave the bill with them as well. Nope. Why not? Seems pretty fair Because we're responsible for looking after their health while they're in our custody. That isn't something we get to pass off when it's convenient. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:926688363] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>MudKip_Master posted...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>OctaviaMelody30 posted...</cite> <quote>Let the person be granted the procedure but leave the bill with them as well.</quote> Nope.</quote> Why not? Seems pretty fair</quote> Because we're responsible for looking after their health while they're in our custody. That isn't something we get to pass off when it's convenient.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 08/29/19 6:23:04 AM #85:	OctilIery posted... MudKip_Master posted... OctilIery posted... OctaviaMelody30 posted... Let the person be granted the procedure but leave the bill with them as well. Nope. Why not? Seems pretty fair Because we're responsible for looking after their health while they're in our custody. That isn't something we get to pass off when it's convenient. And if they were a type 1 diabetic we would be obligated to get them insulin. But the medical professionals involved in this case said its unnecessary. It's an expensive cosmetic procedure that may help the mental wellbeing of the patient. Not a vital medical one. That means it shouldn't be up to the tax payer to fund. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:926688619] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>MudKip_Master posted...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>OctaviaMelody30 posted...</cite> <quote>Let the person be granted the procedure but leave the bill with them as well.</quote> Nope.</quote> Why not? Seems pretty fair</quote> Because we're responsible for looking after their health while they're in our custody. That isn't something we get to pass off when it's convenient.</quote> And if they were a type 1 diabetic we would be obligated to get them insulin. But the medical professionals involved in this case said its unnecessary. It's an expensive cosmetic procedure that may help the mental wellbeing of the patient. Not a vital medical one. That means it shouldn't be up to the tax payer to fund.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MudKip_Master 08/29/19 6:26:24 AM #86:	OctilIery posted... MudKip_Master posted... OctilIery posted... OctaviaMelody30 posted... Let the person be granted the procedure but leave the bill with them as well. Nope. Why not? Seems pretty fair Because we're responsible for looking after their health while they're in our custody. That isn't something we get to pass off when it's convenient. Is it life threatening to not have this procedure? <cite>MudKip_Master posted [p:926688659] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>MudKip_Master posted...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>OctaviaMelody30 posted...</cite> <quote>Let the person be granted the procedure but leave the bill with them as well.</quote> Nope.</quote> Why not? Seems pretty fair</quote> Because we're responsible for looking after their health while they're in our custody. That isn't something we get to pass off when it's convenient.</quote> Is it life threatening to not have this procedure?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 08/29/19 6:35:00 AM #87:	I have had really bad depression for the last 10 years of my life. I have been unhappy and missed out on a so much, despite this I never committed crime because I'm not a self absorbed asshole, tell me why am I, less deserving of the country bending over backwards to pay 30-40k to help me? Hell it would've taken much much less, just somebody to talk to at all times, but instead I lost years alone and afraid, and nobody fought to help me get better. Prison is unpleasant. Unless you will die without medical care, it's not really the prison's problem. It's moronic that criminals would get better care than law abiding people. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:926688769] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>I have had really bad depression for the last 10 years of my life. I have been unhappy and missed out on a so much, despite this I never committed crime because I'm not a self absorbed asshole, tell me why am I, less deserving of the country bending over backwards to pay 30-40k to help me? Hell it would've taken much much less, just somebody to talk to at all times, but instead I lost years alone and afraid, and nobody fought to help me get better. Prison is unpleasant. Unless you will die without medical care, it's not really the prison's problem. It's moronic that criminals would get better care than law abiding people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gmanthebest 08/29/19 6:38:22 AM #88:	I say let them get the surgery if they can afford it themselves. Just like a law abiding person would have to. Seems pretty fair to me. --- What do I feel when I shoot an enemy? Recoil. <cite>gmanthebest posted [p:926688836] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>I say let them get the surgery if they can afford it themselves. Just like a law abiding person would have to. Seems pretty fair to me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 08/29/19 6:39:00 AM #89:	MudKip_Master posted... Is it life threatening to not have this procedure? It doesn't need to be. We're responsible for their mental and physical health, not just life threatening concerns. joe40001 posted... tell me why am I, less deserving of the country bending over backwards to pay 30-40k to help me? You aren't less deserving. The problem with this argument is the solution is to fix the broken system, not break the correct system. joe40001 posted... Unless you will die without medical care, it's not really the prison's problem. That's objectively wrong, both from a moral and legal standpoint. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:926688840] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>MudKip_Master posted...</cite> <quote>Is it life threatening to not have this procedure?</quote> It doesn't need to be. We're responsible for their mental and physical health, not just life threatening concerns. joe40001 posted...</cite> <quote>tell me why am I, less deserving of the country bending over backwards to pay 30-40k to help me?</quote> You aren't less deserving. The problem with this argument is the solution is to fix the broken system, not break the correct system. joe40001 posted...</cite> <quote>Unless you will die without medical care, it's not really the prison's problem.</quote> That's objectively wrong, both from a moral and legal standpoint.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 08/29/19 6:41:06 AM #90:	OctilIery posted... MudKip_Master posted... Is it life threatening to not have this procedure? It doesn't need to be. We're responsible for their mental and physical health, not just life threatening concerns. joe40001 posted... tell me why am I, less deserving of the country bending over backwards to pay 30-40k to help me? You aren't less deserving. The problem with this argument is the solution is to fix the broken system, not break the correct system. joe40001 posted... Unless you will die without medical care, it's not really the prison's problem. That's objectively wrong, both from a moral and legal standpoint. Spoiler alert: Prison is bad for your mental health, it's meant to be unpleasant, if a person is unhappy in prison, tough tits, you shouldn't have gone to prison. Don't pretend like this is anything like torturing prisoners, you know your are being obtuse and dumb. PS: Please learn what objectively means. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:926688871] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>MudKip_Master posted...</cite> <quote>Is it life threatening to not have this procedure?</quote> It doesn't need to be. We're responsible for their mental and physical health, not just life threatening concerns. joe40001 posted...</cite> <quote>tell me why am I, less deserving of the country bending over backwards to pay 30-40k to help me?</quote> You aren't less deserving. The problem with this argument is the solution is to fix the broken system, not break the correct system. joe40001 posted...</cite> <quote>Unless you will die without medical care, it's not really the prison's problem.</quote> That's objectively wrong, both from a moral and legal standpoint.</quote> Spoiler alert: Prison is bad for your mental health, it's meant to be unpleasant, if a person is unhappy in prison, tough tits, you shouldn't have gone to prison. Don't pretend like this is anything like torturing prisoners, you know your are being obtuse and dumb. PS: Please learn what objectively means.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 08/29/19 6:42:21 AM #91:	It's meant to be rehabilitation, not punishment. Sorry, but you have no leg to stand on arguing against this. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:926688890] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>It's meant to be rehabilitation, not punishment. Sorry, but you have no leg to stand on arguing against this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 08/29/19 6:44:40 AM #92:	So is Oct a known troll or something? --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:926688923] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>So is Oct a known troll or something?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bover_87 08/29/19 6:45:00 AM #93:	joe40001 posted... Spoiler alert: Prison is bad for your mental health, it's meant to be unpleasant, if a person is unhappy in prison, tough tits, you shouldn't have gone to prison. Don't pretend like this is anything like torturing prisoners, you know your are being obtuse and dumb. PS: Please learn what objectively means. Legally this post is completely and utterly wrong. Courts have ruled for centuries now that prisoners have the right to humane treatment and basic needs (food, water, proper shelter, medical care). You'd be laughed out of any court in the civilized world for saying the bilge you just spewed out your ass. --- I...I shall consume. Consume...consume everything. ~ [FFRK] rcr6 - Arbiter's Tome/Forbidden Power/Divine Veil Grimoire <cite>bover_87 posted [p:926688930] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted...</cite> <quote>Spoiler alert: Prison is bad for your mental health, it's meant to be unpleasant, if a person is unhappy in prison, tough tits, you shouldn't have gone to prison. Don't pretend like this is anything like torturing prisoners, you know your are being obtuse and dumb. PS: Please learn what objectively means.</quote> Legally this post is completely and utterly wrong. Courts have ruled for centuries now that prisoners have the right to humane treatment and basic needs (food, water, proper shelter, medical care). You'd be laughed out of any court in the civilized world for saying the bilge you just spewed out your ass.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 08/29/19 6:45:24 AM #94:	joe40001 posted... So is Oct a known troll or something? No, just correct. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:926688937] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted...</cite> <quote>So is Oct a known troll or something?</quote> No, just correct.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 08/29/19 6:47:49 AM #95:	bover_87 posted... joe40001 posted... Spoiler alert: Prison is bad for your mental health, it's meant to be unpleasant, if a person is unhappy in prison, tough tits, you shouldn't have gone to prison. Don't pretend like this is anything like torturing prisoners, you know your are being obtuse and dumb. PS: Please learn what objectively means. Legally this post is completely and utterly wrong. Courts have ruled for centuries now that prisoners have the right to humane treatment and basic needs (food, water, proper shelter, medical care). You'd be laughed out of any court in the civilized world for saying the bilge you just spewed out your ass. Humane treatment and basic needs != "you can't be unhappy in prison" --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:926688970] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>bover_87 posted...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted...</cite> <quote>Spoiler alert: Prison is bad for your mental health, it's meant to be unpleasant, if a person is unhappy in prison, tough tits, you shouldn't have gone to prison. Don't pretend like this is anything like torturing prisoners, you know your are being obtuse and dumb. PS: Please learn what objectively means.</quote> Legally this post is completely and utterly wrong. Courts have ruled for centuries now that prisoners have the right to humane treatment and basic needs (food, water, proper shelter, medical care). You'd be laughed out of any court in the civilized world for saying the bilge you just spewed out your ass.</quote> Humane treatment and basic needs != "you can't be unhappy in prison"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 08/29/19 6:48:07 AM #96:	OctilIery posted... joe40001 posted... So is Oct a known troll or something? No, just correct. lol k --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:926688973] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted...</cite> <quote>So is Oct a known troll or something?</quote> No, just correct.</quote> lol k</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gmanthebest 08/29/19 6:49:57 AM #97:	bover_87 posted... joe40001 posted... Spoiler alert: Prison is bad for your mental health, it's meant to be unpleasant, if a person is unhappy in prison, tough tits, you shouldn't have gone to prison. Don't pretend like this is anything like torturing prisoners, you know your are being obtuse and dumb. PS: Please learn what objectively means. Legally this post is completely and utterly wrong. Courts have ruled for centuries now that prisoners have the right to humane treatment and basic needs (food, water, proper shelter, medical care). You'd be laughed out of any court in the civilized world for saying the bilge you just spewed out your ass. They didn't say anything about not getting basic needs. Just that prison isn't all puppies and unicorns. Even the prisoner's doctor said that SRS isn't medically necessary for this person. --- What do I feel when I shoot an enemy? Recoil. <cite>gmanthebest posted [p:926689004] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>bover_87 posted...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted...</cite> <quote>Spoiler alert: Prison is bad for your mental health, it's meant to be unpleasant, if a person is unhappy in prison, tough tits, you shouldn't have gone to prison. Don't pretend like this is anything like torturing prisoners, you know your are being obtuse and dumb. PS: Please learn what objectively means.</quote> Legally this post is completely and utterly wrong. Courts have ruled for centuries now that prisoners have the right to humane treatment and basic needs (food, water, proper shelter, medical care). You'd be laughed out of any court in the civilized world for saying the bilge you just spewed out your ass.</quote> They didn't say anything about not getting basic needs. Just that prison isn't all puppies and unicorns. Even the prisoner's doctor said that SRS isn't medically necessary for this person.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 08/29/19 6:50:38 AM #98:	joe40001 posted... bover_87 posted... joe40001 posted... Spoiler alert: Prison is bad for your mental health, it's meant to be unpleasant, if a person is unhappy in prison, tough tits, you shouldn't have gone to prison. Don't pretend like this is anything like torturing prisoners, you know your are being obtuse and dumb. PS: Please learn what objectively means. Legally this post is completely and utterly wrong. Courts have ruled for centuries now that prisoners have the right to humane treatment and basic needs (food, water, proper shelter, medical care). You'd be laughed out of any court in the civilized world for saying the bilge you just spewed out your ass. Humane treatment and basic needs != "you can't be unhappy in prison" Medical care is a basic need. That includes both mental and physical. This qualifies as medical care. Ergo, we are legally and morally obligated to provide this regardless of your ignorant nd vaguely transphobic opinions of the procedure. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:926689012] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted...</cite> <quote>bover_87 posted...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted...</cite> <quote>Spoiler alert: Prison is bad for your mental health, it's meant to be unpleasant, if a person is unhappy in prison, tough tits, you shouldn't have gone to prison. Don't pretend like this is anything like torturing prisoners, you know your are being obtuse and dumb. PS: Please learn what objectively means.</quote> Legally this post is completely and utterly wrong. Courts have ruled for centuries now that prisoners have the right to humane treatment and basic needs (food, water, proper shelter, medical care). You'd be laughed out of any court in the civilized world for saying the bilge you just spewed out your ass.</quote> Humane treatment and basic needs != "you can't be unhappy in prison"</quote> Medical care is a basic need. That includes both mental and physical. This qualifies as medical care. Ergo, we are legally and morally obligated to provide this regardless of your ignorant nd vaguely transphobic opinions of the procedure.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZeroKelvin 08/29/19 6:50:49 AM #99:	joe40001 posted... I have had really bad depression for the last 10 years of my life. I have been unhappy and missed out on a so much, despite this I never committed crime because I'm not a self absorbed asshole, tell me why am I, less deserving of the country bending over backwards to pay 30-40k to help me? Hell it would've taken much much less, just somebody to talk to at all times, but instead I lost years alone and afraid, and nobody fought to help me get better. Prison is unpleasant. Unless you will die without medical care, it's not really the prison's problem. It's moronic that criminals would get better care than law abiding people. Well said. This idea of coddling criminals in prison is ridiculous. Unless its gonna kill them in there, they can take care of it on their own dime once theyve served their time. <cite>ZeroKelvin posted [p:926689015] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted...</cite> <quote>I have had really bad depression for the last 10 years of my life. I have been unhappy and missed out on a so much, despite this I never committed crime because I'm not a self absorbed asshole, tell me why am I, less deserving of the country bending over backwards to pay 30-40k to help me? Hell it would've taken much much less, just somebody to talk to at all times, but instead I lost years alone and afraid, and nobody fought to help me get better. Prison is unpleasant. Unless you will die without medical care, it's not really the prison's problem. It's moronic that criminals would get better care than law abiding people.</quote> Well said. This idea of coddling criminals in prison is ridiculous. Unless its gonna kill them in there, they can take care of it on their own dime once theyve served their time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 08/29/19 6:51:45 AM #100:	ZeroKelvin posted... joe40001 posted... I have had really bad depression for the last 10 years of my life. I have been unhappy and missed out on a so much, despite this I never committed crime because I'm not a self absorbed asshole, tell me why am I, less deserving of the country bending over backwards to pay 30-40k to help me? Hell it would've taken much much less, just somebody to talk to at all times, but instead I lost years alone and afraid, and nobody fought to help me get better. Prison is unpleasant. Unless you will die without medical care, it's not really the prison's problem. It's moronic that criminals would get better care than law abiding people. Well said. This idea of coddling criminals in prison is ridiculous. Unless its gonna kill them in there, they can take care of it on their own dime once theyve served their time. Another wrong opinion. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:926689025] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>ZeroKelvin posted...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted...</cite> <quote>I have had really bad depression for the last 10 years of my life. I have been unhappy and missed out on a so much, despite this I never committed crime because I'm not a self absorbed asshole, tell me why am I, less deserving of the country bending over backwards to pay 30-40k to help me? Hell it would've taken much much less, just somebody to talk to at all times, but instead I lost years alone and afraid, and nobody fought to help me get better. Prison is unpleasant. Unless you will die without medical care, it's not really the prison's problem. It's moronic that criminals would get better care than law abiding people.</quote> Well said. This idea of coddling criminals in prison is ridiculous. Unless its gonna kill them in there, they can take care of it on their own dime once theyve served their time.</quote> Another wrong opinion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZeroKelvin 08/29/19 6:55:00 AM #101:	OctilIery posted... ZeroKelvin posted... joe40001 posted... I have had really bad depression for the last 10 years of my life. I have been unhappy and missed out on a so much, despite this I never committed crime because I'm not a self absorbed asshole, tell me why am I, less deserving of the country bending over backwards to pay 30-40k to help me? Hell it would've taken much much less, just somebody to talk to at all times, but instead I lost years alone and afraid, and nobody fought to help me get better. Prison is unpleasant. Unless you will die without medical care, it's not really the prison's problem. It's moronic that criminals would get better care than law abiding people. Well said. This idea of coddling criminals in prison is ridiculous. Unless its gonna kill them in there, they can take care of it on their own dime once theyve served their time. Another wrong opinion. So why do you think hardened criminals are more entitled to non-critical care paid for by the government than law abiding citizens? What a ridiculous stance. <cite>ZeroKelvin posted [p:926689068] in Idaho balk... [t:77960970]...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>ZeroKelvin posted...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted...</cite> <quote>I have had really bad depression for the last 10 years of my life. I have been unhappy and missed out on a so much, despite this I never committed crime because I'm not a self absorbed asshole, tell me why am I, less deserving of the country bending over backwards to pay 30-40k to help me? Hell it would've taken much much less, just somebody to talk to at all times, but instead I lost years alone and afraid, and nobody fought to help me get better. Prison is unpleasant. Unless you will die without medical care, it's not really the prison's problem. It's moronic that criminals would get better care than law abiding people.</quote> Well said. This idea of coddling criminals in prison is ridiculous. Unless its gonna kill them in there, they can take care of it on their own dime once theyve served their time.</quote> Another wrong opinion.</quote> So why do you think hardened criminals are more entitled to non-critical care paid for by the government than law abiding citizens? What a ridiculous stance.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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