Board 8 > ProJared - "You've been lied to"

(+) Yeah! (+)

"Cancelling" doesn't actually exist. People try to make it a thing but it doesn't really work. But if his own actions have turned off enough of his audience that they feel uncomfortable watching, and are stupid enough that people make fun of him, I'd say he absolutely deserves that.
---

The cheating is whatever

But the send me nudes blog is super creepy and yeah he kinda deserves to be called out for that
---

neonreaper posted...

BetrayedTangy posted...

It does look like the minor sent the nudes to Jared, but only after Jared explicitly asked if they were 18+. Then lied on Twitter saying he never asked for their age.

If you have to ask, the answer is no

He knew.

Haha what, Gamestop ID'd me for a rated M video game at the age of 22. That was in person, so I'd imagine asking someone online is a perfectly fair question.
---

neonreaper posted...

BetrayedTangy posted...

It does look like the minor sent the nudes to Jared, but only after Jared explicitly asked if they were 18+. Then lied on Twitter saying he never asked for their age.

If you have to ask, the answer is no

He knew.

i get the impression that he asked that as a standard question to any person who contacted him online via that blog, and he asked it before knowing what they looked like.

The whole point of asking somebodys age is because you dont believe theyre the age they say they are and you want proof. GameStop does it to avoid lawsuits. Him just taking a oh yeah Im 18 and being like cool good enough for me when he clearly had doubt in the first place is pretty suspect.
---

HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

"Cancelling" doesn't actually exist. People try to make it a thing but it doesn't really work. But if his own actions have turned off enough of his audience that they feel uncomfortable watching, and are stupid enough that people make fun of him, I'd say he absolutely deserves that.

Cancelling most certainly does exist, every single one of his videos has a slew of comments just berating him for the controversy and while he lost a heavy amount of subscribers he kept more than he lost. In addition to that most of his fans are giving plenty of support in the comments section of the video.
---

Dels posted...

neonreaper posted...

BetrayedTangy posted...

It does look like the minor sent the nudes to Jared, but only after Jared explicitly asked if they were 18+. Then lied on Twitter saying he never asked for their age.

If you have to ask, the answer is no

He knew.

i get the impression that he asked that as a standard question to any person who contacted him online via that blog, and he asked it before knowing what they looked like.

If thats the way it sounds then its not as weird, but it wasnt really presented as a well I vet everybody with this question kind of thing
---

i mean, don't look at me, i don't know how this "running a tumblr blog to share nudes with strangers online" stuff works. but just because it's completely divorced from my lifestyle, doesn't mean i want to assume that anyone who does it must be a creep. sex positive people who believe that it shouldn't be a taboo exist. that seems to be how he defines himself.

HashtagSEP posted...

Dels posted...

neonreaper posted...

BetrayedTangy posted...

It does look like the minor sent the nudes to Jared, but only after Jared explicitly asked if they were 18+. Then lied on Twitter saying he never asked for their age.

If you have to ask, the answer is no

He knew.

i get the impression that he asked that as a standard question to any person who contacted him online via that blog, and he asked it before knowing what they looked like.

If thats the way it sounds then its not as weird, but it wasnt really presented as a well I vet everybody with this question kind of thing

Earlier in the video he posted several examples of him asking other users that
---

At the end of the day, his videos never interested me so I dont really care. I personally think it is super creepy even in his best case scenario, and he sounds super manipulative by many accounts, so I think it is perfectly fair for people to come up with their own judgment based on that.
---

Dels posted...

i mean, don't look at me, i don't know how this "running a tumblr blog to share nudes with strangers online" stuff works. but just because it's completely divorced from my lifestyle, doesn't mean i want to assume that anyone who does it must be a creep. sex positive people who believe that it shouldn't be a taboo exist. that seems to be how he defines himself.

I know those blogs exist. They seem pretty harmless, except for when the owner is predatory. What's specifically suspect here is using your profile as an established internet personality to launch one yourself.
---

Did he address every accusation against him with evidence defending himself?

Obviously he's not gonna spend 45 minutes talking about stuff he can't refute, only the stuff he can.

That's why these things are a matter for lawyers in court and not a vlog. There's no way this can be legally productive, specifically because only a legal investigation would actually cover all the bases. So if he had a real legal defense he would've done that, not post a vlog.

If you want to defend him or keep watching him or whatever then fine, but don't pretend it's because he's cleared.
---

foolm0r0n posted...

Did he address every accusation against him with evidence defending himself?

Obviously he's not gonna spend 45 minutes talking about stuff he can't refute, only the stuff he can.

That's why these things are a matter for lawyers in court and not a vlog. There's no way this can be legally productive, specifically because only a legal investigation would actually cover all the bases. So if he had a real legal defense he would've done that, not post a vlog.

If you want to defend him or keep watching him or whatever then fine, but don't pretend it's because he's cleared.

he addresses allegations from two people named charlie who said that he solicitied nudes from them even though they were minors. the first one he says has no proof (no chatlogs, etc) and the second one is the one he disproves by showing the chatlog showing he asked them if they were 18+.

he also covers another accusation that a woman accused him of googling her nudes and sharing them with people, which he says was misinterpreted because he googled a cosplay pic of her and showed people, and somehow it got distorted, but he does have proof that this woman (or another woman?) said he continued to treat her badly at an e3 panel which he proves he never attended. (because it didn't exist)

that's all he covers. i don't remember if there was anything else he was accused of so its possible there's stuff he didn't address. he doesn't talk about the stuff with his wife but he maintains it was a complex situation and that he wanted to leave her and made his intentions clear before the alleged cheating.

As one who was a fan before this debacle...I mean, decent attempt at addressing one of the elephants in the room, but he still made some major screw ups even with the new info come to light.

If he can redeem himself years from now, sure, but it's far too early to expect much redemption.
---

foolm0r0n posted...

Did he address every accusation against him with evidence defending himself?

Obviously he's not gonna spend 45 minutes talking about stuff he can't refute, only the stuff he can.

That's why these things are a matter for lawyers in court and not a vlog. There's no way this can be legally productive, specifically because only a legal investigation would actually cover all the bases. So if he had a real legal defense he would've done that, not post a vlog.

If you want to defend him or keep watching him or whatever then fine, but don't pretend it's because he's cleared.

I was only concerned with the accusations from the two minors and the first never had any real evidence to begin with and the second was disproven with actual evidence. Add in the fact that the two are friends that worked together on it as well as a whole slew of suspicious behavior definitely makes the two accusers far more suspicious than Jared himself. The justice system got called into it because their claims never had sound backing to begin with.
---

Gatarix posted...

tag in case a transcript gets posted

Wifebolo decided to practice her dictation on this video. I am trapped in a hell of 0.75 speed ProJared and it is your fault. Please consider this my penance for Mercs 2 and/or 3

on the plus side it'll be nice for those of us curious

---

Tom Bombadil posted...

Gatarix posted...

tag in case a transcript gets posted

Wifebolo decided to practice her dictation on this video. I am trapped in a hell of 0.75 speed ProJared and it is your fault. Please consider this my penance for Mercs 2 and/or 3

on the plus side it'll be nice for those of us curious

Tag.
---

Too little too late imo.
---

Hey its me. If I was lied to, and so were you. Its been a tumultuous last few months, to say the least. And I dont know how else to describe what I watched, other than sheer disbelief. For those of you who are unaware, a few months ago, some individuals circulated serious accusations against me. I want to make it perfectly clear - right now. They are false. And I have proof. I have the receipts.

I know a lot of people have been wondering why Ive been silent, and why its taken me three months to say something. Serious allegations need to be taken seriously. I spent this entire time talking to as many people as I could; lawyers, law experts, officials, anyone. And I wasnt going to do anything until I was certain that it would be safe to talk about. Thankfully, it is - so, here I am.

Besides, I saw how the internet responded. Three months ago, I was demonized and dehumanized. People were understandably angry. The few things I did try to post were met with outrage - the few people who did try to speak out on my behalf were threatened into silence. And they only stopped out of fear - fear of the internet. And what Im hoping for now is at least a few people are willing to listen. I mean, youre here, so - thank you for hearing me out. And Ive already seen a lot of posts from people telling me to move on or the tea is cold.

Um, Sorry that this is no longer entertaining for them, but just because theyre bored of it doesnt mean the harassment stopped, or that the story is final and over. What this all came down to is people were saying I was exchanging nudes with fans on snapchat and tumblr, and a lot of people want to know if I did any of that. Yeah, I did. And I always made it clear that it was for consenting adults only.

This came about when numerous people had asked me about it, and wanted to know if it was okay to do. I said, Yes. That it would be a safe place for people who wished to express themselves in that way, and for me to express myself in that way. It was an open invitation for those who wanted to do it, and that I wouldnt be offended or upset, and that nothing would be shared or saved without explicit permission.

To be clear, it was an open invitation to those who wanted to participate., The choice was always up to them. At no point did I ever go through my followers list and single out individuals, or screen names, and pursue them. I never did that. I always left the choice up to them. Let them choose to engage or not. To initiate or have nothing at all.

I made a conscious effort to treat everyone with the same respect, always. And I see no shame what goes on between consenting adults. It was never meant to be an abuse of power. I never offered anyone anything in return, like making them a Twitch mod, or early access to a YouTube video or whatever.

I also never threatened anyone, any kind of punishment if they didnt or anything like that. However, I want to acknowledge now that there was a power imbalance. That comes down to who I am, and what I do.

Even if there was nothing offered in return, there was still incentive for people to do it, because I am a YouTuber. It doesnt matter how neutral the intent was, just being in this position causes a power imbalance. A lot of people saw that, and were upset at me for that reason. And to those of you who feel that way, I completely understand how you feel, and why you feel that way. And Im sorry.

I feel that what I was doing was not predatory. But, it was unhealthy.
---

But that isnt the main grievance that everyone has. Its the other allegations by these two - theyre both named Charlie, which is going to be confusing. So, for the one from the UK, Im going to use his nickname, which is Chai. Their tweets were some serious accusations, and Ill go over them. But they both basically boil down to the same thing - that they were underage, that I knew this, and that I was okay with it, and encouraged them to interact with me.

Im going to show you exactly how these accusations are inaccurate, or just flat out lies. The key word that they allege is that I did all of this knowingly and intentionally, which is false. For example, if we go to Chais accusations, we can see that... ah! Never mind. He deleted his accusations.

Well, thats okay, because we can still go to Charlies Twitter and you can see... that... well, wait. They deleted theirs too. This is the equivalent of firing a gun and then trying to hide it while its still smoking. And for the record, they both deleted their tweets shortly after their narratives were questioned. You know, posted out there just long enough.

But, thats okay. Like I said, I have the receipts.

The most prominent accusation was the first one, from Chai. Im going to make this available for everyone to read, but Im just going to paraphrase for now. What it claims, is that he had sent me nudes, while telling me he was only 16, and that I was okay with that, and continued to spur him on. Its also important to note that he states that he has no evidence of us ever interacting.

So, all we have to go on is his word. And in an instance such as this, where he has no evidence, my word is just as valid as his. And heres the thing with that; I dont remember ever talking to this person. None of what he claims sounds familiar to my memory at all. The actions he describes doesnt sound like something I would ever do? Nothing in it sounds right or familiar.

After everything that I scoured with any and all possible correspondences that I could have access to, I found nothing with Chai whatsoever. What this leaves us with is his word versus mine, which gets us nowhere - and as the internet has shown me, people are more likely to believe whoever fires first on Twitter. After all, why else would he accuse me unless Im guilty?

So, my word is, I dont remember this even happening, or even talking to this person. And Chais word is that all of this did happen. So, rather than making it Chais word versus mine, it should be Chais word versus Chais word. In his accusations, Chai sets the timeframe for when all of this supposedly happened, early 2016. Specifically, sometime between March and July.

This is all very important, he also makes it clear that happened sometime before my personal tumblr account that he supposedly interacted with me on was hacked and deleted. And my tumblr was hacked, I can confirm that. There are even tweets to timestamp when that happened, which is mid-May 2016. This puts the timeframe, based on his claims, sometime between March 2016 and May 2016.
---

Again, this is all very important. Are you familiar with the website medium.com? Its a website in which people can write articles and blog posts for public viewing. Chai has quite a few of them on there and a couple of them are relevant to this situation. Especially this one, titled Ive been disabled for two years. Im not going to read every part of it because not everything in here is pertinent, but Ill make a link available so that if you want, you can read through all of it.

The 9th of November 2015 is the most notable date in my life, and always will be. Most people remember their wedding day, or their 18th birthday, or the day someone close to them died. For me, I remember the day of my accident. We were playing basketball, I loved basketball. My height was my downfall, as it turned out. I was running to try and get the ball from someone. I ran, I ran...BOOM.

I fell down hard, landing on my knees and snapping my head forwards so that my forehead smacked against the floor. It was almost the end of the lesson, so I asked to be excused to the changing room. The rest of the class came in and we all started getting changed. Thats the last thing I properly remember until about six months later. As we changing I apparently fainted, landing hard on the concrete floor and smashing the back of my head off of it. I was taken to a hospital, admitted to the childrens ward, given an EEG and MRI, a cardiogram.

I was tentatively told that I had axonal brain damage, and after a couple of days sent home. Cue another passing out. Another hospitalization. I passed out again while in hospital. At this point in my life, I was sleeping for around 16-18 hours per day. I had to stop going to school and was essentially bed bound. Along with the pain came voices, hallucinations. I didnt notice them so much at first, or attributed them to being so tired: seeing a spider when there was none, or a flash of light. Then, things got a bit more intense.

Kill someone. Stab your mom. Grab that steak knife and stick it in his back. I was terrified of myself. All day, every day, I was plagued with thoughts of violence and aggression. They got harder and harder to ignore. Listing your symptoms over and over gets pretty exhausting. Fatigue, severe head pain, spasms of pain. Extremely bad short term memory. Big gaps in long term memory. No concentration. Occasionally passing out. Psychosis.

Cut forwards to August 2016. The psychosis was getting worse. One night, I walked downstairs, opened the living room door and told my mom that she needed to take me to the hospital because if she didnt, Id kill her. Literally kill her. The nights I spent in the hospital for psychosis were the worst nights of my life.

My miracle came a few days into my hospital stay. After about five minutes of terrible, awful, exhausting pain, it stopped. I released my whole body. Something felt...different. It was silent. The voices had gone.

In his own article, Chai states that he suffered a traumatic brain injury and has no memory for six months from November 2015 up until May 2016. He continued to have hallucinations and psychosis up until August 2016. And if you are not familiar with psychosis, psychosis is an abnormal condition of the mind that results in difficulties determining what is real and what is not. Symptoms may include false beliefs and seeing or hearing things that others do not see or hear, aka hallucinations.

To reiterate, Chais accusation was at the things I supposedly did, happened between March 2016 and May 2016. Chai also states that he has no memory during this exact same period, and hallucinations continuing until August 2016. My word was that I dont remember ever talking to this person, recognizing them, or finding the behavior that they described is something that I would even do. So, I ask you to draw your own conclusion here. Did this actually happen?
---

Thank you llarian
---

greengravy294 posted...

Thank you llarian

More to come - this is only about half of it.
---

Llarian posted...

But, thats okay. Like I said, I have the receipts.

The most prominent accusation was the first one, from Chai. Im going to make this available for everyone to read, but Im just going to paraphrase for now. What it claims, is that he had sent me nudes, while telling me he was only 16, and that I was okay with that, and continued to spur him on. Its also important to note that he states that he has no evidence of us ever interacting.

So, all we have to go on is his word. And in an instance such as this, where he has no evidence, my word is just as valid as his. And heres the thing with that; I dont remember ever talking to this person. None of what he claims sounds familiar to my memory at all. The actions he describes doesnt sound like something I would ever do? Nothing in it sounds right or familiar.

After everything that I scoured with any and all possible correspondences that I could have access to, I found nothing with Chai whatsoever. What this leaves us with is his word versus mine, which gets us nowhere - and as the internet has shown me, people are more likely to believe whoever fires first on Twitter. After all, why else would he accuse me unless Im guilty?

So, my word is, I dont remember this even happening, or even talking to this person. And Chais word is that all of this did happen. So, rather than making it Chais word versus mine, it should be Chais word versus Chais word. In his accusations, Chai sets the timeframe for when all of this supposedly happened, early 2016. Specifically, sometime between March and July.

This is all very important, he also makes it clear that happened sometime before my personal tumblr account that he supposedly interacted with me on was hacked and deleted. And my tumblr was hacked, I can confirm that. There are even tweets to timestamp when that happened, which is mid-May 2016. This puts the timeframe, based on his claims, sometime between March 2016 and May 2016.

"I have receipts"

"I dont remember this happening so its my word vs him".

What the hell. this isnt even a "This never happened" defense. This is an "I don't remember this happening" defense.

lol.

Also follow up is that this person has no memory of that period of time. Not that that they were completely incapacitated at that time. Just that they were insane at the time.
---

It's not technically receipts, but if it's Person A's word versus Person B's word and Person B was literally insane at the time, I'll take Person A.
---

Also thanks Llarian
---

Drakeryn posted...

It's not technically receipts, but if it's Person A's word versus Person B's word and Person B was literally insane at the time, I'll take Person A.

I'll take person A if they can unequivocally say this never happened.

He doesn't. And considering he apparently lawyered up hard.

Thats a probable nope from me.
---

Besides burden of proof shouldn't be on Jared it should be on Chai who has none
---

having a lawyer: worse than being insane
---

Drakeryn posted...

having a lawyer: worse than being insane

To be fair, while I don't really agree it's enough to make a judgment on, what I think red is arguing is that suddenly lawyering up in reaction to random, unproved accusations seems a bit extreme if you know it never happened and the other side isn't actually putting forward evidence at the moment. That's basically throwing away money, and thus seems a little odd, especially since I don't believe he's suing anybody, himself.
---

StealThisSheen posted...

Drakeryn posted...

having a lawyer: worse than being insane

To be fair, while I don't really agree it's enough to make a judgment on, what I think red is arguing is that suddenly lawyering up in reaction to random, unproved accusations seems a bit extreme if you know it never happened and the other side isn't actually putting forward evidence at the moment. That's basically throwing away money, and thus seems a little odd, especially since I don't believe he's suing anybody, himself.

You think so? idk I feel like if I were being publicly accused of serious crimes by multiple parties, even if I were completely innocent, I would be scared and wanting a lawyer. Especially since this is the kind of accusation where there likely isn't physical evidence to exonerate me.

I'm not saying he is innocent just that "quick get a lawyer" seems a perfectly normal innocent-person reaction.
---

Has any formal charges been brought against him?
---

yeah I dont think you should ever look suspiciously upon someone hiring a lawyer when facing a serious accusation like this. Innocent people need lawyers too.

---

Drakeryn posted...

StealThisSheen posted...

Drakeryn posted...

having a lawyer: worse than being insane

To be fair, while I don't really agree it's enough to make a judgment on, what I think red is arguing is that suddenly lawyering up in reaction to random, unproved accusations seems a bit extreme if you know it never happened and the other side isn't actually putting forward evidence at the moment. That's basically throwing away money, and thus seems a little odd, especially since I don't believe he's suing anybody, himself.

You think so? idk I feel like if I were being publicly accused of serious crimes by multiple parties, even if I were completely innocent, I would be scared and wanting a lawyer. Especially since this is the kind of accusation where there likely isn't physical evidence to exonerate me.

I'm not saying he is innocent just that "quick get a lawyer" seems a perfectly normal innocent-person reaction.

Eh, people like him get accused of stuff all the time, though. That's just how the internet is. An accusation you know isn't true, has no evidence, and no sign of charges seems like a wait and see kind of thing, not an instantly run and get a lawyer kind of thing.

My personal guess would be either atleast part of this whole thing is true that made him think a lawyer was needed, or he at the time thought atleast one of the accusations could have actually happened. Obviously there's no real proof there one way or the other, but to have a lawyer and take this long to say something makes it seem possible that he was figuring out what he could say without incriminating himself. Now, if he were to press charges for libel or anything, then it'd make more sense, but as it stands now, something just seems off.
---

MoogleKupo141 posted...

yeah I dont think you should ever look suspiciously upon someone hiring a lawyer when facing a serious accusation like this. Innocent people need lawyers too.

Well, it's not necessarily that he just lawyered up so quickly, but that he also took so long to say anything that adds a bit of weirdness to it.
---

Drakeryn posted...

I'm not saying he is innocent just that "quick get a lawyer" seems a perfectly normal innocent-person reaction.

the dude was an e-celeb and honestly his mistake was probably not having a lawyer in the first place.

the problem is he let his lawyer write this speech and it just reeks of lawyer speak. Not to mention they clearly went e-stalking.

Then he makes a big claim hes going to prove the the accusation false.

All he does is attack the character of the accuser. He doesn't even refute the allegation. He just says "make the judgment yourself".

This sounds like a lawyer went and asked him "Are you sure this didnt happen", he said "no" and so they came up with this plan.
---

hell arguably it makes it worse cause now he may have been soliciting nudes from a minor that was suffering from psychosis and memory loss.
---

There is a possibility to consider - that the hospital stay and the memory loss isnt true. That it was made up to garner sympathy and if thats the case, how can we trust Chais story about me - and if the hospital stay and memory loss story is true, how can we trust Chais story about me? Again, I ask you - did his claims actually happen?

Ill offer one final piece of conjecture - my tumblr was hacked, the hacker was seeking to deal as much damage as possible. They were posting really grotesque things rapidfire. They had full access to my posts, to my inbox, and to my private messages. If they were seeking to deal as much damage as possible, they would have gone through my private conversations and leaked damaging things. But nothing was leaked. Again, I ask you - do you still feel that Chais claims against me beyond a reasonable doubt, actually happened?

Something thats important to note is the way Chai and Charlie made their statements. They use a logical fallacy known as poisoning the well. Its tactic in which before you are presented with information, youre given subtext, opinions, or other irrelevant information to negatively affect your opinion about something before you find out what the something is.

In other words, to manipulate you. And it worked on everybody. Charlies accusations quickly follow Chais, they had their own story posted to Twitter, and it had very similar claims, that they were underage, that they interacted with me, and that I never even asked them for their age.

Charlie was able to back up their accusations by posting several screenshots of our messages onto Twitter, like I just mentioned - each screenshot is accompanied with them providing subtext and opinions to poison the well before you even look at it. Unlike Chai, I actually do remember talking to Charlie. It seemed familiar but what they are saying didnt sound right. All of these images and poisoned well tactics that they posted on Twitter are the exact same thing that they had emailed out to business associates of mine.

Im going to go more into that in a little bit, but basically they emailed people that I know with these exact same screenshots and said the same things pretty much verbatim as to what they put on Twitter. This is relevant because this is one of the screens they put on twitter and this is the exact same screen included in those emails, only Charlies tumblr name isnt redacted.

Now, because they have these, its very clear that Charlie had access to our entire conversation on tumblr, and they would have been able to see everything, but they still chose to only show carefully selected and carefully cropped images. This was done to make me look as bad as possible, and to mislead you. For example, if Charlie would have shown the very start of our messages, you would have seen where Charlie lied.

To clear up the immediate confusion as to why my screenshot has as different profile picture for me in it, is because I had updated my profile picture sometime in February or March of this year. Its the same profile picture thats over on my Twitch page. All this means is that Charlie had taken these screencaps some time before I updated my profile picture.

Every single part of Charlies allegations against me hinges on the belief that I didnt know their age and/or didnt ask. They even argued that I should have known their age, because they used the phrase I am a baby, as if this somehow denotes how old they generally are, even though its used in a context of shyness or feeling intimidated. And I did ask their age, and they lied.

They also clearly knew then that they were doing something they know they shouldnt, and is doing something they know Im not okay with. They had full access to the entire conversation and omitted to all of you that they lied to me, deceiving all of you.
---

They knew about this from the get-go, which is why on Twitter they immediately began to backpedal on their claims, changing their tone from claiming I didnt say he knew my age, I said he was predatory.

Predatory behavior would be targeting an individual and pursuing after them, often repeatedly. And as Charlie had access to our whole conversation, they saw it was them who continued to initiate conversations with me, unprompted, numerous times, four months along. But Charlie chose to omit that, and when they spoke with the Daily Beast, they lied in the interview about me never asking for their age, when I did. So, this is libel. Knabenbauer could have asked for my ID and they could have not lied. This isnt about whether or not they remembered if I asked them or not, its that they knew that I had asked because they clearly had access to all of our messages, and saw the truth.

This does bring up the question - why didnt I ask for peoples IDs and the answer is because that would be asking people to doxx themselves. Which seems far more risky. Besides, theres no way to verify IDs, and its very easy for people to Photoshop up one in minutes. And if someone is going to lie to get somewhere, theyre going to lie.

By the way, Charlie also would have seen that in our entire conversation. I never sent them a dick pic. So all these beliefs that Jared sent nudes to minors is factually untrue. Even the claim that I was manipulative, or coerced them, are untrue because I made it consistently clear, as I did with everyone else, that it was their choice if they wanted to, every time.

More accurately, it was Charlie who manipulated me, and all of you, with their lies. These allegations against me, about being a predator against underage people, are fundamentally false. Charlie and Chai began making these accusations against me back at the end of March, beginning of April of this year. They were smearing my name back then by sending an email out with everything that youve seen already.

And the first people they sent these accusations out to was the Game Grumps. Not the police, or law enforcement, or the person I was married to at the time - but the Game Grumps. This can be easily proven, with a tweet Chai made to Aaron Hanson of the Game Grumps at the end of March, about the email. This Twitter account of Chais was suspended shortly after, for harassment.

Sometime around April 2nd, the Game Grumps privated every single video they have ever done with me, because they believed the poisoned well, and didnt ask me about it. The next day, I was shown the email, and honestly, even I believed it. None of it sounded right to me, but if they were saying this, I must have done this, right?

It must be true? So, I apologized to them. It upset Charlie and Chai that I got in contact with them, and tried to apologize. They called my apology manipulative. Heres the thing - I apologized to them because they wanted me to.

Lets go back to the email that they sent out to the Game Grumps. At the very end, Chai and Charlie state in that email that - ideally, theyd like me to always check the age of the people Im talking to sexually - which I did - and, to apologize to Chai and Charlie - so I did.

But now lets look at the email that they sent to Normal Boots a couple of days later. Scroll down to the very same section - and they deleted the part where they wanted me to apologize. They then weaponized my apology against me on Twitter, after asking for it. That is literally manipulation.
---

Llarian posted...

Sometime around April 2nd, the Game Grumps privated every single video they have ever done with me, because they believed the poisoned well, and didnt ask me about it. The next day, I was shown the email, and honestly, even I believed it. None of it sounded right to me, but if they were saying this, I must have done this, right?

It must be true? So, I apologized to them. It upset Charlie and Chai that I got in contact with them, and tried to apologize. They called my apology manipulative. Heres the thing - I apologized to them because they wanted me to.

okay now THIS is damning

if he actually had clean hands in all this, there's no way he would be fooled into believing the allegations
---

Drakeryn posted...

Llarian posted...

Sometime around April 2nd, the Game Grumps privated every single video they have ever done with me, because they believed the poisoned well, and didnt ask me about it. The next day, I was shown the email, and honestly, even I believed it. None of it sounded right to me, but if they were saying this, I must have done this, right?

It must be true? So, I apologized to them. It upset Charlie and Chai that I got in contact with them, and tried to apologize. They called my apology manipulative. Heres the thing - I apologized to them because they wanted me to.

okay now THIS is damning

if he actually had clean hands in all this, there's no way he would be fooled into believing the allegations

Yeah, this makes me lean harder into thinking that even if these accusations aren't true, he partakes in some kind of behavior that made him think they COULD be true.
---

Drakeryn posted...

Llarian posted...

Sometime around April 2nd, the Game Grumps privated every single video they have ever done with me, because they believed the poisoned well, and didnt ask me about it. The next day, I was shown the email, and honestly, even I believed it. None of it sounded right to me, but if they were saying this, I must have done this, right?

It must be true? So, I apologized to them. It upset Charlie and Chai that I got in contact with them, and tried to apologize. They called my apology manipulative. Heres the thing - I apologized to them because they wanted me to.

okay now THIS is damning

if he actually had clean hands in all this, there's no way he would be fooled into believing the allegations

Even then memory is easily manipulated, he's sent and received a ton of nudes, it could easily make him think oh my god what if I did? Not to mention the shit with his ex wife had reached a boiling point, he was trying to put out too many fires and accidentally gasoline onto one. It's the same way scammers trick people into giving up important information. It's hard to think rationally when you're getting attacked from all sides.
---

Now when its all broke out publicly, Normal Boots did post a statement that I was no longer part of their team. I was not fire, I resigned so that everyone else at Normal Boots wouldnt get dragged down with me. I was already seeing the negativity in all of their videos. And some of them started losing subscribers. I left in the hopes that they wouldnt take any more additional collateral damage. The last thing that I want to note about this email, is that Chai and Charlie made it clear that they worked on it together, and Charlie lied about their claims.

This doesnt automatically disprove Chai, but their close friendship, and one of them being a liar, does cast further doubt on Chais claims. Especially since he has no evidence. How can we trust Chai, when his cohort Charlie was already lying?

Something Ive been trying to figure out through all of this is - why would they even do this? Why make such dishonest claims? And for as much as I have mulled it over, I can only come down to the most logical conclusion - which is also the simplest. Money, and attention. Its very clear that they both adore attention, and desired it from the internet, and especially from the Game Grumps.

Both of them are massive fans of the Grumps. This is really easy to see, from Chai having another article on Medium about meeting your idols, and talks about meeting the Game Grumps the entire time. Charlie has another tumblr called Ego Bang, dedicated to sexual fantasies of Dan and Arin, fan fictions, fan art, and discussions of them having sex with each other, along Charlie talking about their own sexual experiences, desires, and fantasies. Which also contradicts their claim of being inexperienced, innocent, or a baby.

Charlie even tweeted at Ross of the Game Grumps about watching a gay porn with an actor who looks just like him, in 2015. The grab for attention, ultimately, proved successful. Both of them got a large influx of new Twitter followers, as even denoted by Charlie. And it was even better for Chai, since his previous Twitter account just got suspended. It even got them the attentions of their idols that they adored, and all of this gives them clout and social credits. Credits that give them a degree of having a form of notoriety, and believability, and admiration, for taking down the bad guy.

They both were aware of this, and tried to capitalize on it. While all the drama was going on, Chai tweeted out links to his Amazon wishlist, his PayPal, and his Ko-Fi, and kept it pinned there for weeks - even tweeted about it again at the end of May. Charlies pinned tweet and its still there - is a link to their Commissions page for art, and on this page is a link for donations which goes straight to their PayPal. This isnt a coincidence.

Theyve both shown a repeated behavior of e-begging. Theres a tweet Charlie made to Chais now-suspended Twitter account last year about Chai suddenly becoming famous, and how he should link his PayPal. Going back for a moment to Charlies Ego Bang porn blog, they posted on their asking for commissions in May of 2017, and again the next month, only this time asking for direct donations. This post asking for money, got near 1,400 notes - which is huge for tumblr. All while saying help me, Im a baby.

This shows that e-begging can be successful. Asking for money, or asking for commission to draw porn. Chai and Charlie were not the only accusations of inappropriate behavior that came out.
---

StealThisSheen posted...

Drakeryn posted...

Llarian posted...

Sometime around April 2nd, the Game Grumps privated every single video they have ever done with me, because they believed the poisoned well, and didnt ask me about it. The next day, I was shown the email, and honestly, even I believed it. None of it sounded right to me, but if they were saying this, I must have done this, right?

It must be true? So, I apologized to them. It upset Charlie and Chai that I got in contact with them, and tried to apologize. They called my apology manipulative. Heres the thing - I apologized to them because they wanted me to.

okay now THIS is damning

if he actually had clean hands in all this, there's no way he would be fooled into believing the allegations

Yeah, this makes me lean harder into thinking that even if these accusations aren't true, he partakes in some kind of behavior that made him think they COULD be true.

This is also known as "Pulling a Ralph Northam."
---

As all of this was unfolding, Pamela Horton tweeted out her own statements. I will discuss those as well. If youre not familiar with Pamela, she is currently a member of the YouTube channel ToasterGhost, and was formerly a model for Playboys Gamer Next Door. Her statement alleges that, at a Nintendo event in early 2015, that both she and I were attending, I looked up her nudes and forcefully showed them to a group of gentlemen, also attending the event.
The event shes speaking of, was a special preview event for the first Platoon game, when its going to be released for the Wii U - which is also where Pamela and I first met. This is confirmed by Amelia Talon, a co-worker of Pamelas at Playboy, who I also met there for the first time. When I first saw this, I had no idea what she was talking about. I dont remember doing anything of that sort that entire weekend. Again, this isnt something I would do.

It was really confusing, considering the numerous occasions after this event that Pamela and I were both at, and were very friendly and amicable. I never had any sense of discomfort or disapproval from her, so I had to ask other people what shes even talking about, just to find out what she was referring to.

This statement was written in such a way as to make it seem as if she was present during the supposed instance and witnessed it, which, she was not. She also left out a lot of details, so that the story couldnt be verified - such as the gentleman in question. So, Ill name them: Gerard the Completionist, another person who requested to remain anonymous, and Matt Sohinki, formerly of Smosh Games, and now of ToasterGhost. Im saying, I didnt do this.

The anonymous person said, he doesnt remember me doing this. Gerard said, he doesnt remember me doing this, and knows it is not something I would do. Which leads me to believe that Pamela heard about this from Sohinki. So, of the four gentlemen present, three of the four say it didnt happen. I will tell you what I do remember happening - while the four of us gentlemen were hanging out in one of our hotel rooms one of the evenings, somebody had mentioned that Pamela has a Bayonetta cosplay.

I believe it was Sohinki who mentioned that, but Im unsure on that detail. At the time, I had a vested interest in cosplay, due to my relationship with a cosplayer. So, I remember looking up Pamelas costume, and I remember being audibly excited after I realized I had just seen Pamela as Bayonetta at E3 2014, where she was modeling the costume, promoting Bayonetta 2 for the Wii U.

I think this whole thing was a misunderstanding, or misremembrance. I know what I did not do. I did not scour the internet for her nudes, and then forcefully show them to a friend of mine, and two strangers at the time. But, thats not the end of her accusations. She goes on to talk about how I continued to show her disrespect; refusing to shake her hand, and making lewd comments about her, and ignoring her in a group setting.

Again, these details are vague, and again, I dont know what shes talking about. I had to ask around just to find out what she was even referring to. And what I found was that she was specifically referring to my behavior at E3 a few years ago during a panel that consisted of myself, Pamela, and Matt Patton.
---

Heres the thing with that - Ive never done a panel with Matt Patton. Ive never done a panel with Pamela. Ive never done a panel with Matt Patton and Pamela together. Ive never done a panel at E3. This couldnt have happened, because the circumstances in which they did, dont exist. And if you dont believe me on that, ask Matt Patton, a third party there supposedly present, when this happened.

And, if it does exist, please find it. If it was done at E3, it was recorded, or live streamed, and saved somewhere. Please find it. I would love to see it, because I dont know what shes talking about. If it exists, I will gladly eat my words and apologize. But I know that it doesnt.

Heres the thing with that - Ive never done a panel with Matt Patton. Ive never done a panel with Pamela. Ive never done a panel with Matt Patton and Pamela together. Ive never done a panel at E3. This couldnt have happened, because the circumstances in which they did, dont exist. And if you dont believe me on that, ask Matt Patton, a third party there supposedly present, when this happened.

And, if it does exist, please find it. If it was done at E3, it was recorded, or live streamed, and saved somewhere. Please find it. I would love to see it, because I dont know what shes talking about. If it exists, I will gladly eat my words and apologize. But I know that it doesnt.

I have to admit here that I dont personally know Pamela that well. Weve hung out a few social gatherings, while I was in Los Angeles, and we were always cordial with each other. However, I dont believe that Pamela is a liar. I think this is something that probably actually happened to her, and she was treated with some amount of disrespect, but shes putting me in the place of someone who actually treated her this way.

I am choosing to believe that she isn't just making stuff up. The outrage, and the response, and the internet was formed entirely by misinformation, and by using false equality. By saying, well this part is true, therefore this part must also be true. But people ran with a narrative formed by layers upon layers of accusations, without facts. This was perpetuated until it became the truth. But it wasnt the truth.

And that didnt matter. It wasnt important if it was true or not. A mob was beating me down, and everyone jumped in on it. Everyone wanted to show that they had the moral high ground, by kicking me while I was down - tweeting memes, clown emojis, and jokes to essentially virtue signal that they are somehow better than me, without all the facts. All for the congratulations of anonymous internet strangers.

YouTubers that Ive never even heard of, and who I imagine, never heard of me, lashed out at me and made jokes at my expense. Some of them harassed me overtly, others did it subtly; but lets call it what it really is - its bullying. Imagine them walking down the street and seeing a group of people beating someone down to the ground to the point that hes helpless, and immobile. And, without even knowing anything of the situation or what the truth even is, they joined in on it. Just so that they could feel better than the person they were punching down on. What was amazing was seeing the sheer amount of coverage on drama YouTube channels. Dozens of them, all weighing in from a supposed neutral stance. Not one of them tried to reach out to me. Not one of them tried to ask me, Hey, is any of this true? Whats your side of the story?

They arent interested in truth, or being fair. They wanted clicks, and because of that, they further perpetuated misinformation, and stirred up a mob. They arent interested in truth, or being fair. They wanted clicks, and because of that, they further perpetuated misinformation, and stirred up a mob.
---

I already know people are moving their goalposts, so that they can continue to condemn me, by saying, Oh, well, hes still a cheater. No cheating happened. I told my wife of the time, that I no longer wanted to be with her, in October of 2018. I was refused. I was told no. I was denied.

I had my career threatened, I felt controlled, I sought therapists and lawyers to assist in separating. We tried discernment therapy to no avail. I have texts from that time that show I was refused, and that it was going to be taken as a warning. I now have text between myself and a professional third party, well aware of the entire situation, that shows I was trying to end it around that time.

Hollys being called a homewrecker, which is such an antiquated term, and that makes it seem like that I had no power or choice or agency in my own relationship, which is not true. It was my choice to not be in that relationship anymore. And Holly didnt cheat on Ross. Ross knows literally everything. He knew everything was going on with me and Holly, he knew everything that was going ton with my personal relationship. Ross even flew up to see me in March of 2018 to support me. He had some other goals that weekend, but he did make it a point to see me, to encourage me, and to support me.

And Ross moved out and left Holly while she was away at PAX West last year. So to say that she cheated on him, is wholly inaccurate. And quite frankly, none of that should matter. Breakups happen. Sometimes relationships dont work out, and anything to do with that is none of your business. So what about the people who still want to support me? What can you do?

Well, it would mean a lot to me if you could watch my YouTube videos again, either on this channel, or over on the gameplay channel. It would mean a lot to me if you would watch my Twitch streams, since Ill probably be there a bit more since it doesnt require as much emotional energy as making YouTube videos.

Theres a petition to get Dice Gamer Action back on the air. If you want to follow that link in the description and sign that, I would really appreciate it. If you want, you can try to help combat all the misinformation thats still being spread around - either by sharing this video, or engaging ill informed people respectfully. And thats not going to be easy. Theres going to be a lot of cognitive dissonance, and the fear of social exclusion. Its going to be painful for some people, like a gear in their head suddenly going in the opposite direction. Nobody likes hearing that theyre wrong. Be kind and be patient.

If you would like to do more research on your own to continue being informed, there are a few places that I can point out. The original ProJared subreddit was vandalized to hell, and locked down, and the mods removed me from it, and are refusing to relinquish control. So the ProJared 2 subreddit has a lot of discussion and additional information.

There is a truth blog about the whole ordeal, that is trying to make sense of it all. Theyre doing a, theyre doing a pretty good job, they dont have everything, but theyre doing a pretty good job. And there are a couple of YouTube videos that are mostly accurate.

Id also like to humbly request to stop harassing me? To Dont harass Holly, dont harass Heidi, dont harass my friends, especially those who tried to stand up for me. Dont harass anybody.
---

I'm noticing a lot of attempts to discredit the accusers by painting them as weirdo and crazy. But you know, I wouldn't expect teens manipulated by someone they look up to and sending nudes to youtubers they idolize to be 100% rational.

One of them ran a Game Grumps porn blog? No, that checks out. What's your point?
---

I know a lot of people reacted very emotionally to all of this, and they may have said or done things that they now regret - and if this someone is you, I want you to know, I forgive you. And I hope that you can forgive me for anything.

And there will still be people who are still angry about it, or wont accept the nudes blog thing, or whatever. And thats okay. They are allowed to feel how they feel. Im not going anywhere. Im still going to be making videos talking about Final Fantasy, or D&D, or Magic: The Gathering, or whatever else that I want. Ill still be streaming. Ill still be doing my thing.

I do have one more request - the next time you see someone being cancelled, with the mob attacking them, and going after them - ask, Whats the other sides story? Is there more to this? How do you know they deserve to be bullied, and shamed? Through evidence? Or through public opinion?

Nobody likes cancel culture, until they get an opportunity to cancel someone.
<END OF TRANSCRIPT>

Part 1: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77968210/926629709
Part 2: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77968210/926629809
Part 3: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77968210/926629887
Part 4: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77968210/926632352
Part 5: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77968210/926632388
Part 6: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77968210/926633003
Part 7: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77968210/926633625
Part 8: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77968210/926633914
Part 9: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77968210/926634421
---

The most telling part is that he releases this the moment his ex-wife (a cosplayer) is going to Dragoncon and both can't defend herself AND help ruin a big event for her.

Like that was 100% planned.
---