Board 8 > ProJared - "You've been lied to"

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CoolCly 08/27/19 11:19:56 PM #101:	wonderful work. you're a true scribe. whats your opinion, having listened to the whole thing and written all that out? --- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG <cite>CoolCly posted [p:926634737] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>wonderful work. you're a true scribe. whats your opinion, having listened to the whole thing and written all that out?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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redrocket 08/27/19 11:22:08 PM #103:	That shit was so long I was waiting for a Bel Aire to popup. --- It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest <cite>redrocket posted [p:926634822] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>That shit was so long I was waiting for a Bel Aire to popup. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom Bombadil 08/27/19 11:24:06 PM #104:	UltimaterializerX posted... Who? man how did you and drak both miss all the hubbub here and elsewhere when this first broke --- https://imgtc.com/i/uWMMlnN.png Tone yo' flab <cite>Tom Bombadil posted [p:926634882] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>UltimaterializerX posted... </cite> <quote>Who?</quote> man how did you and drak both miss all the hubbub here and elsewhere when this first broke </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BetrayedTangy 08/27/19 11:24:14 PM #105:	HeroDelTiempo17 posted... I'm noticing a lot of attempts to discredit the accusers by painting them as weirdo and crazy. But you know, I wouldn't expect teens manipulated by someone they look up to and sending nudes to youtubers they idolize to be 100% rational. One of them ran a Game Grumps porn blog? No, that checks out. What's your point? See that's they thing they were doing that stuff before Jared allegedly manipulated them. Everything they did post-accusation wasn't strange at all. They made the accusations. Emailed a bunch of people, then after the situation was over they deleted the accusations. Everyone's so wrapped up in dissecting every little ounce of Jared's story. Yet the accusers stories have glaring holes that are being overlooked. It was already in everyone's minds that he's "guilty" so that's how it's going to remain for a lot of people. Regardless of what actually happened. --- My Quest to beat the Final Fantasies: I II IV V VI VII VIII IX X XII XIII XIV XV <cite>BetrayedTangy posted [p:926634888] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>HeroDelTiempo17 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm noticing a lot of attempts to discredit the accusers by painting them as weirdo and crazy. But you know, I wouldn't expect teens manipulated by someone they look up to and sending nudes to youtubers they idolize to be 100% rational. One of them ran a Game Grumps porn blog? No, that checks out. What's your point?</quote> See that's they thing they were doing that stuff before Jared allegedly manipulated them. Everything they did post-accusation wasn't strange at all. They made the accusations. Emailed a bunch of people, then after the situation was over they deleted the accusations. Everyone's so wrapped up in dissecting every little ounce of Jared's story. Yet the accusers stories have glaring holes that are being overlooked. It was already in everyone's minds that he's "guilty" so that's how it's going to remain for a lot of people. Regardless of what actually happened.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red13n 08/27/19 11:29:54 PM #106:	BetrayedTangy posted... See that's they thing they were doing that stuff before Jared allegedly manipulated them. Everything they did post-accusation wasn't strange at all. They made the accusations. Emailed a bunch of people, then after the situation was over they deleted the accusations. Everyone's so wrapped up in dissecting every little ounce of Jared's story. Yet the accusers stories have glaring holes that are being overlooked. It was already in everyone's minds that he's "guilty" so that's how it's going to remain for a lot of people. Regardless of what actually happened. my big takeaway from all of this is that e-celebs and their biggest followers just arent the most well-adjusted people. His wives/girlfriends/whatever they are all kind of seedy. Hes pretty seedy. His followers are obviously too infatuated and he clearly has been taking advantage of them. Just not good people. --- "First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed. <cite>red13n posted [p:926635080] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>BetrayedTangy posted...</cite> <quote> See that's they thing they were doing that stuff before Jared allegedly manipulated them. Everything they did post-accusation wasn't strange at all. They made the accusations. Emailed a bunch of people, then after the situation was over they deleted the accusations. Everyone's so wrapped up in dissecting every little ounce of Jared's story. Yet the accusers stories have glaring holes that are being overlooked. It was already in everyone's minds that he's "guilty" so that's how it's going to remain for a lot of people. Regardless of what actually happened.</quote> my big takeaway from all of this is that e-celebs and their biggest followers just arent the most well-adjusted people. His wives/girlfriends/whatever they are all kind of seedy. Hes pretty seedy. His followers are obviously too infatuated and he clearly has been taking advantage of them. Just not good people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NowItsAngeTime 08/27/19 11:30:00 PM #107:	UltimaterializerX posted... Who? --- I have been more into visual novels and learning Japanese recently. With some fighting games and Switch games on the side. https://twitter.com/superange128 <cite>NowItsAngeTime posted [p:926635083] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>UltimaterializerX posted... </cite> <quote>Who?</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 08/27/19 11:30:34 PM #108:	But Jared's story also has plenty of holes. He admits he can't remember any of these details. He's mainly just trying to discredit them as much as he can. Others have pointed out the sketchy parts of his story, and Jared comes off as a kind of a creep even if they are making it up. Nothing here really inspires confidence --- DPOblivion was far more determined than me. <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:926635098] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>But Jared's story also has plenty of holes. He admits he can't remember any of these details. He's mainly just trying to discredit them as much as he can. Others have pointed out the sketchy parts of his story, and Jared comes off as a kind of a creep even if they are making it up. Nothing here really inspires confidence</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StifledSilence 08/27/19 11:31:30 PM #109:	He seems even more sleazy after that, honestly. All the talk about proof and receipts just devolved into a smear campaign. In many cases he couldnt even definitively say he didnt do it and went for I dont remember instead. That screams guilty to me. --- Bear Bro The Empire of Silence <cite>StifledSilence posted [p:926635134] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>He seems even more sleazy after that, honestly. All the talk about proof and receipts just devolved into a smear campaign. In many cases he couldnt even definitively say he didnt do it and went for I dont remember instead. That screams guilty to me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 08/27/19 11:31:48 PM #110:	BetrayedTangy posted... HeroDelTiempo17 posted... I'm noticing a lot of attempts to discredit the accusers by painting them as weirdo and crazy. But you know, I wouldn't expect teens manipulated by someone they look up to and sending nudes to youtubers they idolize to be 100% rational. One of them ran a Game Grumps porn blog? No, that checks out. What's your point? See that's they thing they were doing that stuff before Jared allegedly manipulated them. Everything they did post-accusation wasn't strange at all. They made the accusations. Emailed a bunch of people, then after the situation was over they deleted the accusations. Everyone's so wrapped up in dissecting every little ounce of Jared's story. Yet the accusers stories have glaring holes that are being overlooked. It was already in everyone's minds that he's "guilty" so that's how it's going to remain for a lot of people. Regardless of what actually happened. I mean it seems like you very much had your mind made up on "not guilty," so --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:926635151] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>BetrayedTangy posted...</cite> <quote>HeroDelTiempo17 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm noticing a lot of attempts to discredit the accusers by painting them as weirdo and crazy. But you know, I wouldn't expect teens manipulated by someone they look up to and sending nudes to youtubers they idolize to be 100% rational. One of them ran a Game Grumps porn blog? No, that checks out. What's your point?</quote> See that's they thing they were doing that stuff before Jared allegedly manipulated them. Everything they did post-accusation wasn't strange at all. They made the accusations. Emailed a bunch of people, then after the situation was over they deleted the accusations. Everyone's so wrapped up in dissecting every little ounce of Jared's story. Yet the accusers stories have glaring holes that are being overlooked. It was already in everyone's minds that he's "guilty" so that's how it's going to remain for a lot of people. Regardless of what actually happened.</quote> I mean it seems like you very much had your mind made up on "not guilty," so</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BetrayedTangy 08/27/19 11:34:44 PM #111:	StealThisSheen posted... BetrayedTangy posted... HeroDelTiempo17 posted... I'm noticing a lot of attempts to discredit the accusers by painting them as weirdo and crazy. But you know, I wouldn't expect teens manipulated by someone they look up to and sending nudes to youtubers they idolize to be 100% rational. One of them ran a Game Grumps porn blog? No, that checks out. What's your point? See that's they thing they were doing that stuff before Jared allegedly manipulated them. Everything they did post-accusation wasn't strange at all. They made the accusations. Emailed a bunch of people, then after the situation was over they deleted the accusations. Everyone's so wrapped up in dissecting every little ounce of Jared's story. Yet the accusers stories have glaring holes that are being overlooked. It was already in everyone's minds that he's "guilty" so that's how it's going to remain for a lot of people. Regardless of what actually happened. I mean it seems like you very much had your mind made up on "not guilty," so Innocent until proven guilty after all --- My Quest to beat the Final Fantasies: I II IV V VI VII VIII IX X XII XIII XIV XV <cite>BetrayedTangy posted [p:926635260] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote>BetrayedTangy posted...</cite> <quote>HeroDelTiempo17 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm noticing a lot of attempts to discredit the accusers by painting them as weirdo and crazy. But you know, I wouldn't expect teens manipulated by someone they look up to and sending nudes to youtubers they idolize to be 100% rational. One of them ran a Game Grumps porn blog? No, that checks out. What's your point?</quote> See that's they thing they were doing that stuff before Jared allegedly manipulated them. Everything they did post-accusation wasn't strange at all. They made the accusations. Emailed a bunch of people, then after the situation was over they deleted the accusations. Everyone's so wrapped up in dissecting every little ounce of Jared's story. Yet the accusers stories have glaring holes that are being overlooked. It was already in everyone's minds that he's "guilty" so that's how it's going to remain for a lot of people. Regardless of what actually happened.</quote> I mean it seems like you very much had your mind made up on "not guilty," so</quote> Innocent until proven guilty after all</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 08/27/19 11:38:39 PM #112:	BetrayedTangy posted... Innocent until proven guilty after all Is for the sake of the legal system. We're more than able to make our own judgments. It's weird seeing how quickly people fawned over this video on his subreddit (actually his second subreddit, the first subreddit got made private). --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:926635410] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>BetrayedTangy posted...</cite> <quote>Innocent until proven guilty after all </quote> Is for the sake of the legal system. We're more than able to make our own judgments. It's weird seeing how quickly people fawned over this video on his subreddit (actually his second subreddit, the first subreddit got made private).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 08/27/19 11:39:10 PM #113:	BetrayedTangy posted... Innocent until proven guilty after all Yeah but not many here are actually going "Oh man these accusations are totally true he totally did it, all of it" We're just pointing out places where his own story is sketchy and you're going full defense force --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:926635423] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>BetrayedTangy posted...</cite> <quote>Innocent until proven guilty after all</quote> Yeah but not many here are actually going "Oh man these accusations are totally true he totally did it, all of it" We're just pointing out places where his own story is sketchy and you're going full defense force</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Llarian 08/27/19 11:40:33 PM #114:	CoolCly posted... wonderful work. you're a true scribe. whats your opinion, having listened to the whole thing and written all that out? redrocket posted... That shit was so long I was waiting for a Bel Aire to popup. --- well, what's wrong with a little destruction? <cite>Llarian posted [p:926635489] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>CoolCly posted...</cite> <quote>wonderful work. you're a true scribe. whats your opinion, having listened to the whole thing and written all that out?</quote> redrocket posted...</cite> <quote>That shit was so long I was waiting for a Bel Aire to popup. </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BetrayedTangy 08/27/19 11:50:06 PM #116:	StealThisSheen posted... BetrayedTangy posted... Innocent until proven guilty after all Yeah but not many here are actually going "Oh man these accusations are totally true he totally did it, all of it" We're just pointing out places where his own story is sketchy and you're going full defense force Ok I can see how I come off that way. My apologies, I'm just personally fed up with cancel culture as a whole. It's one of those topics that just tends to get me worked up. --- My Quest to beat the Final Fantasies: I II IV V VI VII VIII IX X XII XIII XIV XV <cite>BetrayedTangy posted [p:926635833] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote>BetrayedTangy posted...</cite> <quote>Innocent until proven guilty after all</quote> Yeah but not many here are actually going "Oh man these accusations are totally true he totally did it, all of it" We're just pointing out places where his own story is sketchy and you're going full defense force</quote> Ok I can see how I come off that way. My apologies, I'm just personally fed up with cancel culture as a whole. It's one of those topics that just tends to get me worked up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 08/27/19 11:50:14 PM #117:	Like maybe watching it is more compelling than reading it but reading it doesn't do much to change the issues with the whole thing. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:926635836] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>Like maybe watching it is more compelling than reading it but reading it doesn't do much to change the issues with the whole thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom Bombadil 08/27/19 11:56:15 PM #118:	UltimaterializerX posted... By doing things in life that we actually enjoy, apparently! This is the internet that's illegal --- https://imgtc.com/i/uWMMlnN.png Tone yo' flab <cite>Tom Bombadil posted [p:926636028] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>UltimaterializerX posted... </cite> <quote>By doing things in life that we actually enjoy, apparently!</quote> This is the internet that's illegal </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 08/28/19 12:27:55 AM #119:	I want someone to come here and believe that Llarian said all that stuff herself --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:926636876] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>I want someone to come here and believe that Llarian said all that stuff herself</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Strife2 08/28/19 12:47:32 AM #120:	My dad actually asked me about this today, because I was a big fan of ProJared and showed my family the LttP randos way back...oof. Anyway, Jared comes across as a creep in many ways for this. But disproving the major issue (the two underage users) was the pressing problem. While I don't like the, "they were just using me and manipulating me for attention whoring" line of thinking, disproving them is enough to avoid serious legal trouble and win back some people. Cheating on Heidi, if that did occur, was never a problem for me. That's their fucking business. It only affects them and people around them, but has no legal backlash associated to it. Social media is a huge cesspool, and it sucks that people like Jared got caught up in it. I'm kinda torn on this, because he still gets stained by this problem. However, I did keep watching Nostalgia Critic after that fuck up and still enjoy it. I may eventually watch or subscribe to Jared again. I enjoyed watching his content for quite some time. It's a shit situation all around. --- "Evening caress, Always yearning, I must confess, The stars aren't burning" Copernicus - Candlemass <cite>Strife2 posted [p:926637376] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>My dad actually asked me about this today, because I was a big fan of ProJared and showed my family the LttP randos way back...oof. Anyway, Jared comes across as a creep in many ways for this. But disproving the major issue (the two underage users) was the pressing problem. While I don't like the, "they were just using me and manipulating me for attention whoring" line of thinking, disproving them is enough to avoid serious legal trouble and win back some people. Cheating on Heidi, if that did occur, was never a problem for me. That's their fucking business. It only affects them and people around them, but has no legal backlash associated to it. Social media is a huge cesspool, and it sucks that people like Jared got caught up in it. I'm kinda torn on this, because he still gets stained by this problem. However, I did keep watching Nostalgia Critic after that fuck up and still enjoy it. I may eventually watch or subscribe to Jared again. I enjoyed watching his content for quite some time. It's a shit situation all around. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 08/28/19 12:53:53 AM #121:	Strife2 posted... Cheating on Heidi, if that did occur, was never a problem for me. That's their fucking business. It only affects them and people around them, but has no legal backlash associated to it. I never got this line of logic. Why shouldn't I judge people for cheating on their significant others? It's a shitty thing to do. Just because it's legal doesn't mean I shouldn't care. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:926637540] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>Strife2 posted... </cite> <quote>Cheating on Heidi, if that did occur, was never a problem for me. That's their fucking business. It only affects them and people around them, but has no legal backlash associated to it.</quote> I never got this line of logic. Why shouldn't I judge people for cheating on their significant others? It's a shitty thing to do. Just because it's legal doesn't mean I shouldn't care. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 08/28/19 12:57:27 AM #122:	KamikazePotato posted... I never got this line of logic. Why shouldn't I judge people for cheating on their significant others? It's a shitty thing to do. Just because it's legal doesn't mean I shouldn't care. More importantly, once info becomes public like that, why does it become "it's their private life, what do you care?" Like yeah I'm sure there's a bunch of shitty celebrities cheating on their wives/husbands/girlfriends/boyfriends behind the scene but I'm not going being able to say anything unless I actually know. But once I do know and it does become public, why am I not allowed to say anything or have an opinion? --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:926637631] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>KamikazePotato posted...</cite> <quote>I never got this line of logic. Why shouldn't I judge people for cheating on their significant others? It's a shitty thing to do. Just because it's legal doesn't mean I shouldn't care. </quote> More importantly, once info becomes public like that, why does it become "it's their private life, what do you care?" Like yeah I'm sure there's a bunch of shitty celebrities cheating on their wives/husbands/girlfriends/boyfriends behind the scene but I'm not going being able to say anything unless I actually know. But once I do know and it does become public, why am I not allowed to say anything or have an opinion?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Strife2 08/28/19 12:58:34 AM #123:	When did I say I didn't judge him for it? I said the other issue is way worse. Is it still shit? Yes, but people fall out of relationships for lots of reasons. I don't ascribe to any "sanctity" or "one true love" situation, because I know love and relationships are complicated. If they don't like each other, they don't like each other anymore. It's understandable and relateable, where the Chai/Charlie thing is definitely not. --- "Evening caress, Always yearning, I must confess, The stars aren't burning" Copernicus - Candlemass <cite>Strife2 posted [p:926637658] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>When did I say I didn't judge him for it? I said the other issue is way worse. Is it still shit? Yes, but people fall out of relationships for lots of reasons. I don't ascribe to any "sanctity" or "one true love" situation, because I know love and relationships are complicated. If they don't like each other, they don't like each other anymore. It's understandable and relateable, where the Chai/Charlie thing is definitely not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 08/28/19 1:01:52 AM #124:	Strife2 posted... If they don't like each other, they don't like each other anymore. Cool, then legally move out of said relationship before you start fucking around with other people, especially people who are also married to, supposedly, one of your friends. At the very least you should properly separate if you're not yet legally so before you go around fucking new people. He better hope that Ross backs him up on "Ross knew and was OK with it". --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:926637737] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>Strife2 posted...</cite> <quote>If they don't like each other, they don't like each other anymore. </quote> Cool, then legally move out of said relationship before you start fucking around with other people, especially people who are also married to, supposedly, one of your friends. At the very least you should properly separate if you're not yet legally so before you go around fucking new people. He better hope that Ross backs him up on "Ross knew and was OK with it".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dels 08/28/19 1:02:29 AM #125:	StealThisSheen posted... I mean it seems like you very much had your mind made up on "not guilty," so as someone who, as i said, is 100% an outsider and therefore theoretically objective (though we all have our own biases), and someone who saw the initial allegations and trusted his wife and thought he seemed creepy and clearly bad, i definitely believe there is some merit to his side of the story. i remember seeing text messages and stuff months ago that showed that his wife encouraged him to start a relationship with the other woman and it seems their relationship was rocky all around and i can't say for sure if either party is solely to blame. of course, i don't have enough info, i don't know them, this is all strangers on the internet, which isn't the best way to reach a correct conclusion. but in this video, the main thing i saw (and hence pointed out) is that he does literally show evidence that an accuser who said "he never asked if i was 18, he should've known" was lying, because he has chat logs saying "are you 18?" "yes, i am". say what you will about the rest, but that seems to be the only solid piece of evidence in the thing, and i think that should count for something. probably should have led with that one instead of the other one, which i admit was definitely "well, they're a crazy person, so we can't know" and is not proof, it's entirely a he said they said situation. that said i do think it paints enough of a picture that there is reason to doubt the accusation. that's just my opinion. i could be wrong and being unfair and victim blaming. if i wanted to reach a correct conclusion i'd need to actually hear the accuser's defense of those inconsistencies, which i'm not doing because like foolmo said i'm not a judge or a lawyer or a juror, just a random guy on the internet. <cite>Dels posted [p:926637748] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote>I mean it seems like you very much had your mind made up on "not guilty," so</quote> as someone who, as i said, is 100% an outsider and therefore theoretically objective (though we all have our own biases), and someone who saw the initial allegations and trusted his wife and thought he seemed creepy and clearly bad, i definitely believe there is some merit to his side of the story. i remember seeing text messages and stuff months ago that showed that his wife encouraged him to start a relationship with the other woman and it seems their relationship was rocky all around and i can't say for sure if either party is solely to blame. of course, i don't have enough info, i don't know them, this is all strangers on the internet, which isn't the best way to reach a correct conclusion. but in this video, the main thing i saw (and hence pointed out) is that he does literally show evidence that an accuser who said "he never asked if i was 18, he should've known" was lying, because he has chat logs saying "are you 18?" "yes, i am". say what you will about the rest, but that seems to be the only solid piece of evidence in the thing, and i think that should count for something. probably should have led with that one instead of the other one, which i admit was definitely "well, they're a crazy person, so we can't know" and is not proof, it's entirely a he said they said situation. that said i do think it paints enough of a picture that there is reason to doubt the accusation. that's just my opinion. i could be wrong and being unfair and victim blaming. if i wanted to reach a correct conclusion i'd need to actually hear the accuser's defense of those inconsistencies, which i'm not doing because like foolmo said i'm not a judge or a lawyer or a juror, just a random guy on the internet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Strife2 08/28/19 1:08:44 AM #126:	TheRock1525 posted... Cool, then legally move out of said relationship before you start fucking around with other people, especially people who are also married to, supposedly, one of your friends. At the very least you should properly separate if you're not yet legally so before you go around fucking new people. He better hope that Ross backs him up on "Ross knew and was OK with it". Heidi's account probably has a lot riding on this too. She got a crazy jump in support thanks to the scandal. I get that "legal" part of it, but I would like to know what this whole "open" relationship entails. --- "Evening caress, Always yearning, I must confess, The stars aren't burning" Copernicus - Candlemass <cite>Strife2 posted [p:926637933] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>TheRock1525 posted... </cite> <quote>Cool, then legally move out of said relationship before you start fucking around with other people, especially people who are also married to, supposedly, one of your friends. At the very least you should properly separate if you're not yet legally so before you go around fucking new people. He better hope that Ross backs him up on "Ross knew and was OK with it".</quote> Heidi's account probably has a lot riding on this too. She got a crazy jump in support thanks to the scandal. I get that "legal" part of it, but I would like to know what this whole "open" relationship entails. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dels 08/28/19 1:09:39 AM #127:	TheRock1525 posted... He better hope that Ross backs him up on "Ross knew and was OK with it". pretty sure 3 months ago that dude tweeted that he just wanted to be left out of it kind of disrespectful to bring him in by naming him honestly (from jared not you) but i guess i can understand if you think he can clear you of wrongdoing <cite>Dels posted [p:926637965] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote> He better hope that Ross backs him up on "Ross knew and was OK with it".</quote> pretty sure 3 months ago that dude tweeted that he just wanted to be left out of it kind of disrespectful to bring him in by naming him honestly (from jared not you) but i guess i can understand if you think he can clear you of wrongdoing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Dog_ 08/28/19 1:10:11 AM #128:	HashtagSEP posted... The cheating is whatever But the send me nudes blog is super creepy and yeah he kinda deserves to be called out for that Nah, ProJared is a scum either way even if his viewpoints are entirely true, and his wife was right to divorce him. I don't like low standards. --- The Big Problem with the Pokemon anime: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/217-pokemon/75265633 <cite>_Dog_ posted [p:926637980] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>HashtagSEP posted...</cite> <quote>The cheating is whatever But the send me nudes blog is super creepy and yeah he kinda deserves to be called out for that</quote> Nah, ProJared is a scum either way even if his viewpoints are entirely true, and his wife was right to divorce him. I don't like low standards.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 08/28/19 1:13:12 AM #129:	_Dog_ posted... Nah, ProJared is a scum either way even if his viewpoints are entirely true, and his wife was right to divorce him. I don't like low standards. From what I read, they were in an open relationship and she had her own flings too. The difference is that Jared wanted to get more serious with his and wanted to end his marriage. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:926638054] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>_Dog_ posted... </cite> <quote>Nah, ProJared is a scum either way even if his viewpoints are entirely true, and his wife was right to divorce him. I don't like low standards.</quote> From what I read, they were in an open relationship and she had her own flings too. The difference is that Jared wanted to get more serious with his and wanted to end his marriage. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 08/28/19 1:16:39 AM #130:	Dels posted... TheRock1525 posted... He better hope that Ross backs him up on "Ross knew and was OK with it". pretty sure 3 months ago that dude tweeted that he just wanted to be left out of it kind of disrespectful to bring him in by naming him honestly (from jared not you) but i guess i can understand if you think he can clear you of wrongdoing He also brought Jirard the Completionist into this who is a pretty well-liked dude as well. Considering Jirard's first response to this accusation was to donate $5k to various suicide prevention charities, Jared is playing a dangerous game if he's not backing him up, either. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:926638162] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>Dels posted...</cite> <quote>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote> He better hope that Ross backs him up on "Ross knew and was OK with it".</quote> pretty sure 3 months ago that dude tweeted that he just wanted to be left out of it kind of disrespectful to bring him in by naming him honestly (from jared not you) but i guess i can understand if you think he can clear you of wrongdoing</quote> He also brought Jirard the Completionist into this who is a pretty well-liked dude as well. Considering Jirard's first response to this accusation was to donate $5k to various suicide prevention charities, Jared is playing a dangerous game if he's not backing him up, either.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 08/28/19 1:21:46 AM #131:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... _Dog_ posted... Nah, ProJared is a scum either way even if his viewpoints are entirely true, and his wife was right to divorce him. I don't like low standards. From what I read, they were in an open relationship and she had her own flings too. The difference is that Jared wanted to get more serious with his and wanted to end his marriage. If this is Holly's word only and she doesn't have actual proof, I'm inclined not to believe it. I generally struggled to believe that they both wanted an open relationship when Jared was the only one soliciting nudes. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:926638296] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>ChaosTonyV4 posted...</cite> <quote>_Dog_ posted... </cite> <quote>Nah, ProJared is a scum either way even if his viewpoints are entirely true, and his wife was right to divorce him. I don't like low standards.</quote> From what I read, they were in an open relationship and she had her own flings too. The difference is that Jared wanted to get more serious with his and wanted to end his marriage. </quote> If this is Holly's word only and she doesn't have actual proof, I'm inclined not to believe it. I generally struggled to believe that they both wanted an open relationship when Jared was the only one soliciting nudes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dels 08/28/19 1:48:22 AM #132:	isn't there a screenshot of her saying she was 100% okay with the stuff Jared did in regards to the nudes stuff? <cite>Dels posted [p:926638910] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>isn't there a screenshot of her saying she was 100% okay with the stuff Jared did in regards to the nudes stuff?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BetrayedTangy 08/28/19 1:48:49 AM #133:	Cheating is something I've stopped worrying about I've known so many people I'm close to cheat on the partners. So It's not something that usually bothers me. However I can totally understand why some are bothered by it --- My Quest to beat the Final Fantasies: I II IV V VI VII VIII IX X XII XIII XIV XV <cite>BetrayedTangy posted [p:926638924] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>Cheating is something I've stopped worrying about I've known so many people I'm close to cheat on the partners. So It's not something that usually bothers me. However I can totally understand why some are bothered by it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Seginustemple 08/28/19 2:10:21 AM #134:	all I know is there ain't no version of this where that anime dating sim featuring him isn't creepy as fuuuuuk <cite>Seginustemple posted [p:926639365] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>all I know is there ain't no version of this where that anime dating sim featuring him isn't creepy as fuuuuuk</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 08/28/19 2:19:52 AM #135:	TheRock1525 posted... If this is Holly's word only and she doesn't have actual proof, I'm inclined not to believe it. I generally struggled to believe that they both wanted an open relationship when Jared was the only one soliciting nudes. Heidi herself shared messages saying they were open and she was talking to someone else. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:926639573] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>TheRock1525 posted... </cite> <quote>If this is Holly's word only and she doesn't have actual proof, I'm inclined not to believe it. I generally struggled to believe that they both wanted an open relationship when Jared was the only one soliciting nudes.</quote> Heidi herself shared messages saying they were open and she was talking to someone else. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LapisLazuli 08/28/19 2:27:42 AM #136:	I had forgotten ProJared existed, but I'm glad he went out of his way to make this video and remind everyone how awful he is. --- https://i.imgtc.com/AutEY6V.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/lwKAU8M.jpg <cite>LapisLazuli posted [p:926639740] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>I had forgotten ProJared existed, but I'm glad he went out of his way to make this video and remind everyone how awful he is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nrrr 08/28/19 3:18:16 AM #137:	the idea that a youtuber made a "fans of mine post their nudes" blog on a different website largely also used by children (for uh, body positivity..) and had no idea underage people would be using it is something you would have to be very very dumb to believe. asking "are you 18" is specifically to cover his ass, and this video also just makes him seem like a manipulative psycho. --- I'm baby <cite>Nrrr posted [p:926640677] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>the idea that a youtuber made a "fans of mine post their nudes" blog on a different website largely also used by children (for uh, body positivity..) and had no idea underage people would be using it is something you would have to be very very dumb to believe. asking "are you 18" is specifically to cover his ass, and this video also just makes him seem like a manipulative psycho. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 08/28/19 4:02:50 AM #138:	thanks for the transcript, no way i would've watched that. he still doesn't sound like a well adjusted person and comes off pretty creepy, but sounds like he put and surrounded himself with grifters and made himself an easy target. still sounds like a scummy guy but also sounds like they took advantage of that aspect hard to ruin him. some of the stuff can be provable, like the E3 thing, as false. some stuff can be supported by independent testimony too. the "victims" immediately relying on e-begging is also a giant red flag. not like he's totally innocent either like his whole "oh i totally was exchanging nudes but said it's for adults!" is something anybody knows is a gigantic loophole, the same way every porn site has that "you must be over 18 to enter" banner that everyone knows is horseshit. so of course that's something he knew wasn't always going to be the case but was just trying to cover his ass on. if you gotta ask "hey are you 18" that's a giant red flag. yes, you can photoshop pictures but know what? that means that you've actual tangible proof that they were lying to you by sending you photoshoped pictures. so that "oh anyone can do it" excuse is bull. it's a logical cover your ass move that he didn't do because he didn't want to open that door as he knew he was on very thin ice. whole thing sounds like yeah he got taken advantage of and run through the ringer by people scamming and e-begging. he was also a creepy dude that willingly put himself in a position where they could take advantage of it because he was trying to skirt by with technically true excuses, which is also why he immediately went the apology route. sounds less scummy than his wife and the people involved but still sounds scummy. --- "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:926641388] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>thanks for the transcript, no way i would've watched that. he still doesn't sound like a well adjusted person and comes off pretty creepy, but sounds like he put and surrounded himself with grifters and made himself an easy target. still sounds like a scummy guy but also sounds like they took advantage of that aspect hard to ruin him. some of the stuff can be provable, like the E3 thing, as false. some stuff can be supported by independent testimony too. the "victims" immediately relying on e-begging is also a giant red flag. not like he's totally innocent either like his whole "oh i totally was exchanging nudes but said it's for adults!" is something anybody knows is a gigantic loophole, the same way every porn site has that "you must be over 18 to enter" banner that everyone knows is horseshit. so of course that's something he knew wasn't always going to be the case but was just trying to cover his ass on. if you gotta ask "hey are you 18" that's a giant red flag. yes, you can photoshop pictures but know what? that means that you've actual tangible proof that they were lying to you by sending you photoshoped pictures. so that "oh anyone can do it" excuse is bull. it's a logical cover your ass move that he didn't do because he didn't want to open that door as he knew he was on very thin ice. whole thing sounds like yeah he got taken advantage of and run through the ringer by people scamming and e-begging. he was also a creepy dude that willingly put himself in a position where they could take advantage of it because he was trying to skirt by with technically true excuses, which is also why he immediately went the apology route. sounds less scummy than his wife and the people involved but still sounds scummy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dels 08/28/19 5:02:49 AM #139:	yeah i dunno i was trying to be open minded with the "well sex positive people exist and that part of tumblr exists so who am i to judge" thing but you may be right surely if it was obvious that "i ask them if they're 18" was a cover for "i know they're not but, y'know, legally..." though he'd get in trouble for it before this? and wouldn't do it publically? do other people do this? <cite>Dels posted [p:926642392] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>yeah i dunno i was trying to be open minded with the "well sex positive people exist and that part of tumblr exists so who am i to judge" thing but you may be right surely if it was obvious that "i ask them if they're 18" was a cover for "i know they're not but, y'know, legally..." though he'd get in trouble for it before this? and wouldn't do it publically? do other people do this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GildedFool 08/28/19 5:06:05 AM #140:	Yeah, you can definitely get done for statutory rape even if the other party tells you their over the age of consent. --- https://i.imgtc.com/tP0gkiQ.png <cite>GildedFool posted [p:926642425] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, you can definitely get done for statutory rape even if the other party tells you their over the age of consent.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 08/28/19 5:32:08 AM #141:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... TheRock1525 posted... If this is Holly's word only and she doesn't have actual proof, I'm inclined not to believe it. I generally struggled to believe that they both wanted an open relationship when Jared was the only one soliciting nudes. Heidi herself shared messages saying they were open and she was talking to someone else. Is this exclusively something she posted on Twitter because googling it didn't bring up anything. Never mind, found it. https://twitter.com/AtelierHeidi/status/1130910485434343424?s=19 --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:926642824] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>ChaosTonyV4 posted...</cite> <quote>TheRock1525 posted... </cite> <quote>If this is Holly's word only and she doesn't have actual proof, I'm inclined not to believe it. I generally struggled to believe that they both wanted an open relationship when Jared was the only one soliciting nudes.</quote> Heidi herself shared messages saying they were open and she was talking to someone else. </quote> Is this exclusively something she posted on Twitter because googling it didn't bring up anything. Never mind, found it. https://twitter.com/AtelierHeidi/status/1130910485434343424?s=19</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LiquidOshawott 08/28/19 5:57:15 AM #142:	Not gonna lie I thought this was the subway dude --- I live on, THROUGH THIS SEASHELL! VI <cite>LiquidOshawott posted [p:926643195] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>Not gonna lie I thought this was the subway dude </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MZero11 08/28/19 6:24:30 AM #143:	I thought this was about the Subway guy --- MZero, to the extreme Listen to Advokaiser's bracket, this may be our last chance <cite>MZero11 posted [p:926643574] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>I thought this was about the Subway guy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 08/28/19 9:27:16 AM #144:	I HAVE the receipts Dude is some loser who slipped through the cracks to become internet semi relevent and couldnt handle his fame. Got caught ruining what he once had. Dude might be innocent of the biggest accusations thrown at him, but hes not completely innocent by any means. Fuck the casual revolution of 2007 --- Casual Revolution 2007 - 2016 <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:926647167] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>I HAVE the receipts Dude is some loser who slipped through the cracks to become internet semi relevent and couldnt handle his fame. Got caught ruining what he once had. Dude might be innocent of the biggest accusations thrown at him, but hes not completely innocent by any means. Fuck the casual revolution of 2007 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wg64Z 08/28/19 9:43:15 AM #145:	Cancel culture is much worse. --- Do you like humor, gameplay, and daily content? Check out my hilarious let's play Youtube Channel, Tarvould's Quest! https://www.youtube.com/TarvouldsQuest <cite>wg64Z posted [p:926647674] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>Cancel culture is much worse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom Bombadil 08/28/19 10:51:09 AM #146:	I think it could be argued that cancel culture is a logical conclusion thereof --- https://imgtc.com/i/uWMMlnN.png Tone yo' flab <cite>Tom Bombadil posted [p:926650130] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>I think it could be argued that cancel culture is a logical conclusion thereof </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gatarix 08/28/19 10:55:32 AM #147:	Tom Bombadil posted... UltimaterializerX posted... Who? man how did you and drak both miss all the hubbub here and elsewhere when this first broke to be fair there's some kind of big sexual scandal every few weeks I can't keep them all straight --- You put your RESOLVE HAT back on, which conveniently is the same hat as your NORMAL HAT. {Drakeryn} <cite>Gatarix posted [p:926650297] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>Tom Bombadil posted...</cite> <quote>UltimaterializerX posted... </cite> <quote>Who?</quote> man how did you and drak both miss all the hubbub here and elsewhere when this first broke </quote> to be fair there's some kind of big sexual scandal every few weeks I can't keep them all straight</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 08/28/19 11:01:44 AM #148:	wg64Z posted... Cancel culture is much worse. You're right, he should just go to jail like in the old days --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:926650550] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>wg64Z posted...</cite> <quote>Cancel culture is much worse.</quote> You're right, he should just go to jail like in the old days</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 08/28/19 11:12:53 AM #149:	Wanglicious posted... the "victims" immediately relying on e-begging is also a giant red flag It really isn't, asking for tips or donations for support when a viral tweet blows up is a common occurrence on twitter. --- DPOblivion was far more determined than me. <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:926650981] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>Wanglicious posted...</cite> <quote>the "victims" immediately relying on e-begging is also a giant red flag</quote> It really isn't, asking for tips or donations for support when a viral tweet blows up is a common occurrence on twitter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 08/28/19 11:42:34 AM #150:	Ive been trying to think of the new name for the era beginning around 2015. I was leaning towards echo casual or somethi g similar. Cancel revolution of 2015 makes sense. So many people digging up old social media posts and what not. Casual revolution 2.0 i think is reserved for when deepfakes become overwhelmingly prevalent, which is certaintly soon --- Casual Revolution 2007 - 2016 <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:926652086] in ProJared -... [t:77968210]...</cite> <quote>Ive been trying to think of the new name for the era beginning around 2015. I was leaning towards echo casual or somethi g similar. Cancel revolution of 2015 makes sense. So many people digging up old social media posts and what not. Casual revolution 2.0 i think is reserved for when deepfakes become overwhelmingly prevalent, which is certaintly soon </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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