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On Monday, the National Baseball Hall of Fame released its official 2020 ballot. The 32-player ballot includes 14 holdovers from last year and 18 newcomers. Here are those 18 candidates new to the ballot, in alphabetical order:

Bobby Abreu
Josh Beckett
Heath Bell
Eric Chavez
Adam Dunn
Chone Figgins
Rafael Furcal
Jason Giambi
Raul Ibanez
Derek Jeter
Paul Konerko
Cliff Lee
Carlos Pena
Brad Penny
J.J. Putz
Brian Roberts
Alfonso Soriano
Jose Valverde

Holdovers from previous years*:

Curt Schilling
Roger Clemens
Barry Bonds
Larry Walker
Omar Vizquel
Manny Ramirez
Jeff Kent
Scott Rolen
Billy Wagner
Todd Helton
Gary Sheffield
Andy Pettitte
Sammy Sosa
Andruw Jones

* you stay on the ballot for 10 years; if you get over 75% of votes you get into the HOF. If you never get 75% after 10 years, you're replaced on the list.
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Jeter seems like the only sure thing. Probably a unanimous choice too.
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I don't know if I put any of those newbies in except Jeter.

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I still think that this is the year where Bonds and Clemens get in

or maybe next year, I thought that this was their 9th season on the ballot, whoops
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hockeybub89 posted...

I don't know if I put any of those newbies in except Jeter.

Giambi had the buzz but I don't know if the numbers are there (haven't looked in a while).
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brestugo posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

I don't know if I put any of those newbies in except Jeter.

Giambi had the buzz but I don't know if the numbers are there (haven't looked in a while).

He also got busted for peds. Even without that, his numbers still aren't good enough.
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The only new person who really has a chance is Jeter.
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PleaseClap posted...

I still think that this is the year where Bonds and Clemens get in

or maybe next year, I thought that this was their 9th season on the ballot, whoops

Schilling, Bonds, Clemens and Sosa are in their 8th year. I don't know if the steroid thing will keep them out or not.
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brestugo posted...

PleaseClap posted...

I still think that this is the year where Bonds and Clemens get in

or maybe next year, I thought that this was their 9th season on the ballot, whoops

Schilling, Bonds, Clemens and Sosa are in their 8th year. I don't know if the steroid thing will keep them out or not.

It should keep Sosa out, and Schilling shouldn't get in because of that and because he's batshit crazy

But Bonds and Clemens were just so good...
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Of the new guys I can really only see Jeter making it. They're all great players but to me only Jeter makes the HOF cut.

For the holdovers, I think the steroid thing keeps them all out. Maybe in their 10th (and final) year someone may show some mercy but I saw an interview with Hank Aaron and he said he'd do everything he could to keep them out.
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Jeter, Soriano, and Kent
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I think either Sheffield or Pettitte could make it eventually. I like Manny Ramirez but he has no shot.
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DirkDiggles posted...

Jeter, Soriano, and Kent

Even though he played for the Dodgers, Kent will always be a Giant to me. Never did like him.
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oh man it's crazy to see all those newcomer names on the hall of fame ballot

i'm getting old
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Fuck the dodgers

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John Bambino
Carl "Markey" Marx
Jukunda Matata
Joe DiMaggio

midoinitrite

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Guerrilla Soldier posted...

oh man it's crazy to see all those newcomer names on the hall of fame ballot

i'm getting old

i know right
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Bobby Abreu had a quietly excellent career. I don't see him making it though.

Jeter is the only clear lock.
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brestugo posted...

Heath Bell

How the fuck? This dude was absolute fucking garbage for the latter half of his career. Fuck that guy.
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The good thing with this ballot is that Larry Walker finally has a good shot of getting in. Utterly ridiculous that he hasn't been voted in yet because of the Coors effect nonsense.

Hopefully Rolen gets some more consideration this time as well.
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My hall of fame ballot is literally 1 vote: Barry Bonds
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GeneralKenobi85 posted...

The good thing with this ballot is that Larry Walker finally has a good shot of getting in. Utterly ridiculous that he hasn't been voted in yet because of the Coors effect nonsense.

Hopefully Rolen gets some more consideration this time as well.

I was just thinking of Larry Walker. Is there some bias against Coors because of the altitude? I mean, he's just a player, the altitude is not his fault.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saDhIrPCrI0
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Gary Sheffield should be in the Hall of Fame for his swing alone

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Jeter, Bonds, and Clemens are absolute musts.

I also like Manny and Omar.

Though Abreu and Soriano sure looked good on my fantasy teams back in the day.

But Jeter, Bonds, and Clemens are the best of the best if the HoF wants to be strict.

BignutzisBack posted...

Gary Sheffield should be in the Hall of Fame for his swing alone

He was a cool cat. I really liked him back in the day. People called him surly but he played for two 'fire sale' teams. Ever meet someone who was downsized by a company? It can make you real bitter.
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brestugo posted...

GeneralKenobi85 posted...

The good thing with this ballot is that Larry Walker finally has a good shot of getting in. Utterly ridiculous that he hasn't been voted in yet because of the Coors effect nonsense.

Hopefully Rolen gets some more consideration this time as well.

I was just thinking of Larry Walker. Is there some bias against Coors because of the altitude? I mean, he's just a player, the altitude is not his fault.

Yeah, there's a lot of scrutiny around Rockies hitters just because of how hitter friendly Colorado is. Obviously every Rockies hitter does benefit from it at least a bit, but Walker was a great baseball player regardless. And the voters will have to vote in a Rockies player eventually. They can't just continue to penalize players for playing there.
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GeneralKenobi85 posted...

brestugo posted...

GeneralKenobi85 posted...

The good thing with this ballot is that Larry Walker finally has a good shot of getting in. Utterly ridiculous that he hasn't been voted in yet because of the Coors effect nonsense.

Hopefully Rolen gets some more consideration this time as well.

I was just thinking of Larry Walker. Is there some bias against Coors because of the altitude? I mean, he's just a player, the altitude is not his fault.

Yeah, there's a lot of scrutiny around Rockies hitters just because of how hitter friendly Colorado is. Obviously every Rockies hitter does benefit from it at least a bit, but Walker was a great baseball player regardless. And the voters will have to vote in a Rockies player eventually. They can't just continue to penalize players for playing there.

I mean I get it. Yeah the altitude, blah, blah, blah but the league should have never put a team there if they were going to penalize them for the altitude.
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wagner deserves to get in
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GeneralKenobi85 posted...

. And the voters will have to vote in a Rockies player eventually. They can't just continue to penalize players for playing there.

They can and they will. This is the BWAA we're talking about
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Pete Rose
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PleaseClap posted...

GeneralKenobi85 posted...

. And the voters will have to vote in a Rockies player eventually. They can't just continue to penalize players for playing there.

They can and they will. This is the BWAA we're talking about

I think this time they'll let him in just because there isn't anyone else that really sticks out other than Jeter. Obviously Bonds, Clemens, and Schilling should be voted in, but that's unlikely to happen. Well, maybe Schilling will eventually. And you can make arguments for a couple others, but again I'm not seeing anyone else who's a lock like Jeter is.
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Was Schilling ever caught using PED? He has the numbers otherwise. I was never a fan of him or his teams (I think he's an asshat) but if he has the numbers, he has the numbers.
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brestugo posted...

Was Schilling ever caught using PED? He has the numbers otherwise. I was never a fan of him or his teams (I think he's an asshat) but if he has the numbers, he has the numbers.

Nope, him being an asshole and his various conflicts with writers is what's holding him back.
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If you want to punish the steroid generation, then fine. But Bonds and Clemens deserve to be in the HOF no matter what.

Schilling deserves to be in there too.
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Everybody sleeping on Omar might want to check the all time SS fielding percentage leaders.

Put the roiders in just make it known they cheated tbh

masterbarf posted...

Everybody sleeping on Omar might want to check the all time SS fielding percentage leaders.

And then when you're done doing that, you might want to check the all time SS JAWS and WAR leaders and then go back to bed
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PleaseClap posted...

masterbarf posted...

Everybody sleeping on Omar might want to check the all time SS fielding percentage leaders.

And then when you're done doing that, you might want to check the all time SS JAWS and WAR leaders and then go back to bed

Okay Billy Beane. You say that like he's a liability. His WAR is totally respectable. While respectable isn't HoF, being the best ever defensive ss is. SS's are put on the field for their defense. He's a straight baller regardless of whether .02 BA points translates to more wins than .02 fp points.

brestugo posted...

Jeter seems like the only sure thing. Probably a unanimous choice too.

No way, I guarantee someone from Boston doesn't vote for him.
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masterbarf posted...

While respectable isn't HoF, being the best ever defensive ss is

But Ozzie Smith is already in the Hall of Fame
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PleaseClap posted...

masterbarf posted...

While respectable isn't HoF, being the best ever defensive ss is

But Ozzie Smith is already in the Hall of Fame

Are you suggesting Omar can't do backflips?

Almost everybody is a no besides jeter.

Helton and Soriano should get in tho
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masterbarf posted...

Everybody sleeping on Omar might want to check the all time SS fielding percentage leaders.

lmao who the fuck cares about fielding %
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jumi posted...

Pete Rose

I think his only hope is with the veterans committee - after he's dead.
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Delirious_Beard posted...

lmao who the fuck cares about fielding %

People who actually appreciate baseball and the skill it takes to play well, let alone at such a ridiculously high level. I'm guessing playing catcher on a t-ball team is the entirety of your experience with the game.

lol

my point is that fielding % is completely worthless when it comes to evaluating defense
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nexigrams posted...

brestugo posted...

Jeter seems like the only sure thing. Probably a unanimous choice too.

No way, I guarantee someone from Boston doesn't vote for him.

Distinct possibility....
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nexigrams posted...

brestugo posted...

Jeter seems like the only sure thing. Probably a unanimous choice too.

No way, I guarantee someone from Boston doesn't vote for him.

Certainly possible...
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