Poll of the Day > The wealth-hate rhetoric that's popular right now blows.

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Politics are invading all of my hobbies.

I really don't care if a singer, author, athlete, recently-retired-in-30's person didn't grow up on foodstamps. It doesn't make their accomplishments any lesser.

Go to a music subreddit, rich people hate.
Go to a general book subreddit, rich people hate.
Go to a subreddit about a sport, some rich people hate.
Go to a subreddit about politics, mostly rich people hate.
Go to a subreddit about people retiring in their 30's with a million or two, rich people hating on each other.
Go to a subreddit about people retiring in their 30's with multi-millions...no rich people hate but I don't really fit in.
Get tired of reddit and come to Gamefaqs, some rich people hate but less so.

I mean saying you're poor because of rich people or that taylor swift is famous because of luck and her rich parents is basically the new 'I'm fat because that's how my genetics are'. I've even noticing some rich people hate in real life (though not as much as online).

The people hating them for being rich are just jealous of their money.
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It's not your fault.

It's just that for every good rich person there's an Elizabeth Holmes or Jeff Bezos ruining it for everyone

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wtf are you even talking about? one of the best benefits of having "fuck it" money is not having to care what anyone thinks about you.

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any rational person would agree that simply having wealth is fine, even if youre a billionaire. its about paying their fair share.

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They deserve it. Most are only rich because they keep others poor.

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DirtBasedSoap posted...

any rational person would agree that simply having wealth is fine, even if youre a billionaire. its about paying their fair share.

So jealousy.
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yeah, good argument dude. you should run for office.

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Revelation34 posted...

The people hating them for being rich are just jealous of their money.

In all honesty... this is actually what it comes off as to me.

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cuck

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Agreed. I'll never understand the hate. Pretty much all my close friends are rich, and they are a lot more put together, kind, and well behaved than most of the poor people I know, who all seem to have some sort of problem or another.

blu posted...

Politics are invading all of my hobbies.

yeah well when your only hobby is chasing the bag that's gonna happen

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It's their attitude that because they don't need social programs, no one needs social programs, and no one should have them because the world revolves around them.

If you get to the millionaires multiply that attitude by 10.

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Aw poor rich people must be so tough for them

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https://youtu.be/y-jC3H_8Dk4

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Rich people have it pretty nice. They haven't had a good lynching since like the French revolution.

Jen0125 posted...

Aw poor rich people must be so tough for them

wow youre clearly just jealous of their wealth.

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i dont understand why kids these days have to be so rude to people of means. back in the 19th century we would have simply invited them to a friendly game of baseball in central park

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They hate us cuz they ain't us!

SunWuKung420 posted...

They deserve it. Most are only rich because they keep others poor.

Sunny's excuse for being poor.

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miki_sauvester posted...

Agreed. I'll never understand the hate. Pretty much all my close friends are rich, and they are a lot more put together, kind, and well behaved than most of the poor people I know, who all seem to have some sort of problem or another.

Please excuse me if this is supposed to be a joke post and I'm not giving you the benefit of the doubt but uh... I can think of one problem they all have in common?

MuffinsPwn0 posted...

Please excuse me if this is supposed to be a joke post and I'm not giving you the benefit of the doubt but uh... I can think of one problem they all have in common?

Do they have problems because they are poor, or are they poor because they have problems?Experience tells me its typically the latter.

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everyone thinks it's cool to be rude to the 1% -- by definition, a minority group! chew on that one folks

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OniRonin posted...

everyone thinks it's cool to be rude to the 1% -- by definition, a minority group! chew on that one folks

#LibLogic

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OniRonin posted...

everyone thinks it's cool to be rude to the 1% -- by definition, a minority group! chew on that one folks

A minority group that controls they majority of the wealth, preventing the 99% from getting out of poverty. They are the oppressors. REVOLT!

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SunWuKung420 posted...

A minority group that controls they majority of the wealth, preventing the 99% from getting out of poverty. They are the oppressors. REVOLT!

Brilliant, kill the 1% but just ignore the systems we leave in place to allow them to become 1%ers. That's not redundant at all.
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Its almost like decades of growing wealth disparity are pushing people past their limits.

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People are stupid. It's not the 1 percent that controls most of the wealth. It's the .0001 percent

Aww, poor rich people. :(

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OhhhJa posted...

People are stupid. It's not the 1 percent that controls most of the wealth. It's the .0001 percent

That's even worse. My problem isn't the rich people hate, it's things like socialism and marxism being peddled that's a serious issue, those are society killers.
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Mead posted...

Its almost like decades of growing wealth disparity are pushing people past their limits.

And then they become the oppressors themselves.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Farm
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http://factmyth.com/the-historical-effects-of-wealth-inequality/

Nothing creates social unrest in a nation like wealth inequality

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SunWuKung420 posted...

They deserve it. Most are only rich because they keep others poor.

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Hop103 posted...

That's even worse. My problem isn't the rich people hate, it's things like socialism and marxism being peddled that's a serious issue, those are society killers.

marxism is good actually

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Having contempt for people for having less money than you do is just as unlovely a trait, and it's one that's even more deeply ingrained and widespread.

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I mean, knowing someone could solve such difficult problems with such incredible ease, and yet they choose not because they don't have to is understandably a bit frustrating for the people with the problems. I don't really have problems with normal rich people but the people that actually have enough money to make a serious positive difference, and just don't, frustrate me. I guess because the science is so close in so many areas it's upsetting they don't chip in and give it that final push.

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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Brilliant, kill the 1% but just ignore the systems we leave in place to allow them to become 1%ers. That's not redundant at all.

I didn't say anything about killing or not revamping failed economic systems.

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YoukaiSlayer posted...

I mean, knowing someone could solve such difficult problems with such incredible ease, and yet they choose not because they don't have to is understandably a bit frustrating for the people with the problems. I don't really have problems with normal rich people but the people that actually have enough money to make a serious positive difference, and just don't, frustrate me. I guess because the science is so close in so many areas it's upsetting they don't chip in and give it that final push.

Pretty much. Notre Dame burning really highlighted this: dozens of billionaires came out of the woodworks to throw enormous quantities of money at restoring it, money which they were easily able to spend on a whim. That kind of money could have done so much more good than restoring some old church (a magnificent piece of architecture, the loss of which was tragic, but nonetheless just an old church), at a similarly trivial personal cost, yet still the money accumulates in bank accounts instead of doing that good. It's only natural that people are going to resent people that could help but choose not to for basically no reason.

Implying that wealth correlates with accomplishments/hard work is nonsense, and so is your strawman against people who take issue with tax-dodging aristocrats.

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_AdjI_ posted...

It's only natural that people are going to resent people that could help but choose not to for basically no reason.

It has also been shown that many use philanthropy to avoid paying taxes, which would net a larger benefit than the charity used to avoid taxes. They only give the minimum amount to other tax dodging non-profit organizations to avoid taxes, while that non-profit doesn't help anyone.

The worst thing is if these corporations would only pay their employees more while the CEO took a slightly smaller paycheck, it would help much more people.

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YoukaiSlayer posted...

I mean, knowing someone could solve such difficult problems with such incredible ease, and yet they choose not because they don't have to is understandably a bit frustrating for the people with the problems. I don't really have problems with normal rich people but the people that actually have enough money to make a serious positive difference, and just don't, frustrate me. I guess because the science is so close in so many areas it's upsetting they don't chip in and give it that final push.

Science isn't going to improve just because somebody gives their entire net worth to fund it.
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SunWuKung420 posted...

I didn't say anything about killing or not revamping failed economic systems.

Oh so you mean revolt from behind a keyboard and not actually do anything. Eqally unhelpful.

OniRonin posted...

marxism is good actually

It's moronic, it's based on assuming everyone is a greedy, materialistic c*** when in reality it's a descriptor of how shitty materialistic c***s can't behave themselves and can't imagine people who aren't as awful as them.

SunWuKung420 posted...

They deserve it. Most are only rich because they keep others poor.

They're rich because their failings are redirected on to the shoulders of the many by a system that's not necessary in developed, peace-time society. They don't directly attack the poor, they just utilise what's available to them and governments are too lazy to rebalance the game to suit the stage we're at.

Politicians are the rot in the hull, the rich are the sea. When the rot decays the vessel then the rich will flood it and drown us all, but if the rot is treated and sealed, the sea lifts the vessel and supports the ground we sit on.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

governments are too lazy to rebalance the game to suit the stage we're at.

It's less a matter of laziness and more a matter of corporate lobbying making it personally beneficial for governments to not rebalance things. Toss in corporate propaganda convincing people to vote for governments that do nothing to fix the imbalance, and you've got a status quo that the corporate elite continue to enjoy.

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adjl posted...

It's less a matter of laziness and more a matter of corporate lobbying making it personally beneficial for governments to not rebalance things. Toss in corporate propaganda convincing people to vote for governments that do nothing to fix the imbalance, and you've got a status quo that the corporate elite continue to enjoy.

They could reorganise it to funnel the same money they get from lobbyists directly to themselves, but they're lazy. It's easy to take bribes and listen to orders. Socialism is more stable than capitalism but that doesn't effect them; in times of crisis, the existing companies are more motivated to bribe to keep themselves afloat so politicians are always propped up one way or another. There's no system that is going to be any better for politicians so there's no incentive, they can stick with the devil they know.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Oh so you mean revolt from behind a keyboard and not actually do anything. Eqally unhelpful.

No. I try to avoid supporting most big business as much as possible using the only thing they understand, money, they get none of mine. Sure, it's not 100%, but if more people would stop supporting big business by spending their money elsewhere, they will have to change. Unfortunately, most people are too brainwashed to stop buying McDonald's and Apple products.

Support local businesses, farms, manufacturers, vote in politicians without corporate connections, don't buy "made in China", etc, etc. You can have a peaceful revolt through such means.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

vote in politicians without corporate connections,

*Insert political equivalent of error 404 here*

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SunWuKung420 posted...

No. I try to avoid supporting most big business as much as possible using the only thing they understand, money, they get none of mine. Sure, it's not 100%, but if more people would stop supporting big business by spending their money elsewhere, they will have to change. Unfortunately, most people are too brainwashed to stop buying McDonald's and Apple products.

Support local businesses, farms, manufacturers, vote in politicians without corporate connections, don't buy "made in China", etc, etc. You can have a peaceful revolt through such means.

So... use capitalism as it was intended?

I thought you hated capitalism.

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Noop_Noop posted...

So... use capitalism as it was intended?

I thought you hated capitalism.

What corporations are doing isn't capitalism.

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The rise of automation and value associated data is likely gonna call for an entirely new type of government

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Mead posted...

The rise of automation and value associated data is likely gonna call for an entirely new type of government

Fittingly enough, probably an automated one. There will be very little reason to continue being governed by meatbags when a suitably advanced AI exists.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

No. I try to avoid supporting most big business as much as possible using the only thing they understand, money, they get none of mine. Sure, it's not 100%, but if more people would stop supporting big business by spending their money elsewhere, they will have to change. Unfortunately, most people are too brainwashed to stop buying McDonald's and Apple products.

Support local businesses, farms, manufacturers, vote in politicians without corporate connections, don't buy "made in China", etc, etc. You can have a peaceful revolt through such means.

The fuck kind of revolt is willingly buying shittier/more expensive products? That does stop the rich getting richer, you're just changing the rules and they have plenty of resources to outdo the competition. McDonalds could disappear today but the owner would just be changing industry. You don't have any effect on wealth inequality, but you do make yourself poorer/worse off.

SunWuKung420 posted...

What corporations are doing isn't capitalism.

It's acruing capital. It's extremely capitalistic, they're also risk-averse so no shit they're not going to engage in the chaos of true capitalism. But neither are you. They reduce productivity to increase security, they're being socialist.

adjl posted...

There will be very little reason to continue being governed by meatbags when a suitably advanced AI exists.

Beyond the AI's objectives being defined by meatbags.
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