Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 274: Rebuttigieg

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LordoftheMorons
02/29/20 8:23:13 PM
#454:


https://twitter.com/acyn/status/1233875544619401216?s=21

I dont think this conforms with best practices in a global health emergency...!

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Nelson_Mandela
02/29/20 8:25:24 PM
#455:


LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/acyn/status/1233875544619401216?s=21

I dont think this conforms with best practices in a global health emergency...!
I seriously don't understand how anyone can't love this

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Corrik7
02/29/20 8:25:27 PM
#456:


Damn CNN straight up talking about a tag team match run by Dem conservatives against Sanders.

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MoogleKupo141
02/29/20 8:28:25 PM
#457:


Nelson_Mandela posted...

I seriously don't understand how anyone can't love this


all flags are boys so kissing a flag is gay
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Corrik7
02/29/20 8:37:06 PM
#458:


Yang says Biden is the Comeback Kid!

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PrinceReva
02/29/20 8:37:54 PM
#459:


Corrik7 posted...
Damn CNN straight up talking about a tag team match run by Dem conservatives against Sanders.

All the MSM shamelessly ditches their credibility to attack Sanders because he's going to tax their bosses income.

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pxlated
02/29/20 8:42:41 PM
#460:


hey, if biden somehow manages to finish with more delegates than bernie despite a very poorly managed campaign, virtually ignoring super tuesday states, lying through his teeth, and spending more money on jets than the entirety of his ST ad buy, then maybe he does have some kind of magic and can win the general.

the idea of biden vs trump in a debate, though, is pretty mortifying. joe at his peak a la 2012 debate with paul ryan or before? maybe. but "vote for the other biden" 2020 joe? the joe that constantly looks like he doesn't know where he is? oof. it hurts to think about

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Corrik7
02/29/20 8:44:21 PM
#461:


Sources say they are trying to convince Biden to put on a pair of pants to do a victory speech.

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StealThisSheen
02/29/20 8:45:16 PM
#462:


I'm not really worried about debates regardless of who it is because debates aren't going to move the needle any. Trump will lie and Trump supporters will believe it and say he wins anyway. The Democratic nominee will be Not Trump and democrats will say they win anyway. At the end of the day, debates haven't had less of a chance to influence anybody than this upcoming election.

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Suprak the Stud
02/29/20 8:46:17 PM
#463:


pxlated posted...
hey, if biden somehow manages to finish with more delegates than bernie despite a very poorly managed campaign, virtually ignoring super tuesday states, lying through his teeth, and spending more money on jets than the entirety of his ST ad buy, then maybe he does have some kind of magic and can win the general.

the idea of biden vs trump in a debate, though, is pretty mortifying. joe at his peak a la 2012 debate with paul ryan or before? maybe. but "vote for the other biden" 2020 joe? the joe that constantly looks like he doesn't know where he is? oof. it hurts to think about

Definitely agree with the end of that statement!

Biden ran circles around Ryan in 2012, yeah. But there is nothing about any of the debates this year that gives me any confidence that Trump will do anything other than murder him on stage and parade his body around for the next three weeks. I've said this before, but I've never got the impression Biden "wants" this as much as all the other candidates.

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Suprak the Stud
02/29/20 8:48:03 PM
#464:


StealThisSheen posted...
I'm not really worried about debates regardless of who it is because debates aren't going to move the needle any. Trump will lie and Trump supporters will believe it and say he wins anyway. The Democratic nominee will be Not Trump and democrats will say they win anyway. At the end of the day, debates haven't had less of a chance to influence anybody than this upcoming election.

I don't necessarily disagree with this, though, I guess.

Maybe it is more the personal embarssament for me watching my democratic candidate fall asleep on stage.

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KamikazePotato
02/29/20 8:49:04 PM
#465:


Debates aren't important for Trump. They are important for the Dem candidate, as they will receive 20x as much scrutiny.

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pxlated
02/29/20 8:59:45 PM
#466:


i'm not so sure debates wont be important. especially with a candidate that doesn't really have much genuine enthusiasm and is more just running on name and associations and the months and months of media "electablity" nonsense.

i can only speak for my area but it very much feels like there's a lot of people that don't like trump personally but aren't "never trump", especially with things like this taliban deal and economy arguments. i can very, very much see a trump manhandling in a debate either depressing turnout and swinging people back towards trump.

i'm not sure i articulated myself very well there but i'm too tired to try and fix it

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Suprak the Stud
02/29/20 9:17:30 PM
#467:


I mean this isn't where I started this week at, but I'll "settle" for Biden under 50% and Sanders above 20% if we can get it.

There was a point right at the apex of the Nevada high that I allowed myself to get stupid and think that maybe, just maybe, things could be almost wrapped up after Super Tuesday. That seems almost impossible now.

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KamikazePotato
02/29/20 9:17:58 PM
#468:


Steyer is out.

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KamikazePotato
02/29/20 9:19:09 PM
#469:


Suprak the Stud posted...
There was a point right at the apex of the Nevada high that I allowed myself to get stupid and think that maybe, just maybe, things could be almost wrapped up after Super Tuesday.

It still will, one way or another. Just not in the sense of 'get a majority'.

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ChaosTonyV4
02/29/20 9:21:25 PM
#470:


Suprak the Stud posted...
I mean this isn't where I started this week at, but I'll "settle" for Biden under 50% and Sanders above 20% if we can get it.

There was a point right at the apex of the Nevada high that I allowed myself to get stupid and think that maybe, just maybe, things could be almost wrapped up after Super Tuesday. That seems almost impossible now.

Hope?

I dont know her.

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RaidenGarai
02/29/20 9:29:18 PM
#471:


I know it won't happen, but I'd be interested to see how Bernie Vs. Biden goes. There are way too many moderates left though, so unless they drop out before Super Tuesday it seems likely that Bernie runs away with this in the end.

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Grimlyn
02/29/20 9:31:07 PM
#472:


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/billionaire-tom-steyer-quits-democratic-primary-race-n1146286

Steyer's out

oh KP posted without the link whoop
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Kinglicious
02/29/20 9:32:40 PM
#473:


Biden doing this good hopefully is the last push to killing Bloomberg too. I get that he was ignoring these 4 but hopefully the momentum hard swings it.

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RaidenGarai
02/29/20 9:33:08 PM
#474:


Grimlyn posted...
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/billionaire-tom-steyer-quits-democratic-primary-race-n1146286

Steyer's out

oh KP posted without the link whoop

Good. Now we just need Bloomberg (at least, he needs to go away), Pete, and Klobuchar to follow. Ideally Warren too, so there's no more splitting

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pxlated
02/29/20 9:44:18 PM
#475:


warren just made an attack at bernie, so, it seems she's not about to drop out any time soon.

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metroid composite
02/29/20 9:45:07 PM
#476:


Kinglicious posted...
Biden doing this good hopefully is the last push to killing Bloomberg too. I get that he was ignoring these 4 but hopefully the momentum hard swings it.
I would be very happy if Bloomberg was squeezed out of the race.

I understand that it maybe helps Bernie's chances at the nomination if Biden and Bloomberg split the votes, but Bloomberg is just so genuinely awful.

I would rather have the really bad candidate gone. If 2016 has proven anything, it's that if the really bad candidate is still in the race, they might win.

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LordoftheMorons
02/29/20 10:16:32 PM
#477:


Sounds like Steyer backed that azz up

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Wanglicious
02/29/20 10:17:50 PM
#478:


biden/bernie is at least a question if ideology, philosophy, and different priorities.
bloomberg ranges from existential crisis to a more competent, better connected, more politically involved, and more evil trump. i cannot stand him.

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Leafeon13N
02/29/20 10:26:11 PM
#479:


Apparently someone in the US died of coronavirus and the government couldn't even get the gender of the person straight.
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ChaosTonyV4
02/29/20 10:38:53 PM
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pxlated
02/29/20 10:47:18 PM
#481:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/02/29/star-trek-first-contact-bernie-sanders-democratic-primary-column/4913386002/



>fearmongering about bernie in wisconsin

yeah, no, this author doesn't know what they're talking about!

bernie is 100% the only chance of a democrat winning wisconsin

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Nelson_Mandela
02/29/20 10:48:17 PM
#482:


Leafeon13N posted...
Apparently someone in the US died of coronavirus and the government couldn't even get the gender of the person straight.
how progressive of them!

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Suprak the Stud
02/29/20 10:48:25 PM
#483:


Something I wasnt quite expecting:
2008 turnout - 533k
2016 turnout - 371k
2020 turnout - 487k (8% to be counted)

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LordoftheMorons
02/29/20 10:51:34 PM
#485:


pxlated posted...
>fearmongering about bernie in wisconsin

yeah, no, this author doesn't know what they're talking about!

bernie is 100% the only chance of a democrat winning wisconsin
Hillary lost WI by less than a percent. It should be in play for any of them (though not guaranteed for anyone).

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pxlated
02/29/20 10:52:30 PM
#486:


trump is stronger in wisconsin since 2016

would love to be wrong, though.

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Corrik7
02/29/20 10:55:03 PM
#487:


pxlated posted...
trump is stronger in wisconsin since 2016

would love to be wrong, though.
I think he is in NH also.

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LordoftheMorons
02/29/20 10:56:25 PM
#488:


Oh I mean I agree that itll be tough. I think its likely to be the tipping point state either way; I dont think its going to end up being harder to flip than AZ, NC, or FL.

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pxlated
02/29/20 10:57:10 PM
#489:


yeah i mean it's probably fair to say he's stronger in most places, unfortunately.

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pxlated
02/29/20 10:58:19 PM
#490:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Oh I mean I agree that itll be tough. I think its likely to be the tipping point state either way; I dont think its going to end up being harder to flip than AZ, NC, or FL.

wasn't trying to suggest wisconsin would be the hardest to flip. Florida is going to take an actual act of god (and i don't believe in god!)

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Leafeon13N
02/29/20 10:59:54 PM
#491:


Could always have a hurricane on election day. Hurricane season keeps getting longer.
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Corrik7
02/29/20 11:04:27 PM
#492:


Isn't a hurricane more statistically likely to hit the Miami area which is a democratic stronghold?



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Leafeon13N
02/29/20 11:08:46 PM
#493:


I'm talking complete statistical anomaly, Corrik.
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metroid composite
02/29/20 11:43:59 PM
#494:


Coronavirus strikes again, this time a big cancellation in the Physics community:

https://twitter.com/AstroKatie/status/1233972782431600640

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LordoftheMorons
03/01/20 12:02:43 AM
#495:


Several of my office mates and my advisor were going to March Meeting

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charmander6000
03/01/20 12:17:25 AM
#496:


Looks like Biden did a bit better than I thought, but Sanders was able to stay viable so it's not the worst for him, but this does give Biden a bit of life to do something on Tuesday.

Steyer quitting after not being viable in SC is expected, but a part of me did think he would stay for Super Tuesday just for the hell of it.

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Leafeon13N
03/01/20 12:18:58 AM
#497:


Biden ended up outperforming pretty much every prediction by a significant margin. Definitely going to inject some life in his campaign.
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xp1337
03/01/20 12:22:20 AM
#498:


I was sending up the warning flare for you guys on this!

xp1337 posted...
He could.

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1232074530119716864

And when Silver says they "tended to underestimate" we're not talking "oh they were off by 3" we're talking more like "off by 15-20"

Another annoying possibility for Sanders/media coverage that we may need to prep for is this regarding Super Tuesday:

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1232430494798811136

Basically, if Sanders has a mixed result or even just a bunch of narrow losses with the Eastern/Central states on Super Tuesday it may set the news cycle even if it turns out he won huge on the West Coast because they count slower so we may not have those results in super timely.


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Kinglicious
03/01/20 12:23:35 AM
#499:


Coronavirus 2020: it's the modern day meteor we asked for.

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Kinglicious
03/01/20 12:23:56 AM
#500:


Reboot.exe

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