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agesboy
03/13/20 3:27:51 PM
#51:


a fun pasttime of ours is figuring out exactly how many mechanics our mch can tank if we pool all cooldowns, mitigation, and shields on him

sometimes we even get his consent

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The Mana Sword
03/14/20 11:29:11 AM
#52:


Im realizing I have no idea how to efficiently craft things, given I havent touched crafting in like 3 years and also am only level 22.

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HeroDelTiempo17
03/14/20 1:04:35 PM
#53:


The Mana Sword posted...
Im realizing I have no idea how to efficiently craft things, given I havent touched crafting in like 3 years and also am only level 22.

You don't have the skills to really be efficient but the general workflow that's true at all levels is

1) Put up Inner Quiet
2) Figure out how many progress actions you need and get the craft to the point where using one more will finish
3) Focus on quality, each Touch action you do will make your Inner Quiet go up, making each quality increase stronger
4) Manage durability during this proactively with skills like Waste Not and Manipulation instead of Mend when you can
5) Finish the craft when you're at max quality or about to run out of durability

I can't really speak to leveling specifics but the core crafting rotation revolves around getting max IQ stacks and using them on buffing the level 50 skill (Byregot's Blessing) so you're kind of playing a different game until then

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agesboy
03/14/20 1:39:59 PM
#54:


teamcraft has both community-posted crafting rotations and a crafting simulator that are extremely helpful

make an account, input your stats, then search the rotations for something that gives 100% HQ. if none exist, play around in the crafting simulator until you find something that works. once you get a working rotation, export it to a macro

https://ffxivteamcraft.com/community-rotations?rlvl=30
https://ffxivteamcraft.com/simulator

the only time manual crafting is actually needed in this game is if you're going for high scores in the new ishgard restoration leaderboards, which is an exercise in futility and infinite grinding

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HeroDelTiempo17
03/14/20 1:50:59 PM
#55:


agesboy posted...
the only time manual crafting is actually needed in this game is if you're going for high scores in the new ishgard restoration leaderboards, which is an exercise in futility and infinite grinding

hey but if you get 500k points on every crafter you get a pterodactyl mount!!!

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agesboy
03/14/20 2:01:36 PM
#56:


expert crafting is an entirely different beast from regular crafting, anyways

half of your knowledge of rotations goes straight out the window because it's hasty/prudent time

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The Mana Sword
03/14/20 5:42:34 PM
#57:


HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
You don't have the skills to really be efficient but the general workflow that's true at all levels is

1) Put up Inner Quiet
2) Figure out how many progress actions you need and get the craft to the point where using one more will finish
3) Focus on quality, each Touch action you do will make your Inner Quiet go up, making each quality increase stronger
4) Manage durability during this proactively with skills like Waste Not and Manipulation instead of Mend when you can
5) Finish the craft when you're at max quality or about to run out of durability

I can't really speak to leveling specifics but the core crafting rotation revolves around getting max IQ stacks and using them on buffing the level 50 skill (Byregot's Blessing) so you're kind of playing a different game until then

Thanks! This was actually enough to get me to be able to craft the level 20 Ishgardian Restoration item with at least 50 collectibility so I can at least start turning things in and leveling a bit faster.

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HeroDelTiempo17
03/14/20 5:55:39 PM
#58:


No problem. And yeah as ages said once you have a handle on how things work definitely start look into learning how to make macros.

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trdl23
03/15/20 2:44:38 AM
#59:


Got Alchemist from level 20 to 69 in just a few hours. Firmament is a hell of a drug.

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LordoftheMorons
03/15/20 6:49:32 AM
#60:


In this Sky Pirates quest am I imagining it or is this base designed after Vyse's home island in Skies of Arcadia?

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BK_Sheikah00
03/15/20 8:24:04 PM
#61:


Doing the questline with Soroban and Genbu and... Have I mentioned Tataru is the best Scion? Lmao that fight was amazing.

"Go Carbuncle go! ... Desertion is punishable by death! My death!"

Love her.

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BK_Sheikah00
03/15/20 9:48:08 PM
#62:


And Byakko, Suzaku, and Seiryu were all really cool fights.

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agesboy
03/15/20 9:50:47 PM
#63:


the tataru fight was absolutely incredible

remember she doesnt have the echo so she doesn't see aoe markers and whatnot

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trdl23
03/15/20 9:54:16 PM
#64:


Bro-oban

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Drakeryn
03/15/20 10:21:00 PM
#65:


agesboy posted...
remember she doesnt have the echo so she doesn't see aoe markers and whatnot

wait aoe markers and such are canonical? I never knew that lol
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agesboy
03/15/20 11:36:14 PM
#66:


yeah, and wipes are us seeing visions

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Not_an_Owl
03/16/20 12:02:31 AM
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Also Savage is all in your imagination, which makes it a very interesting question as to where the gear actually comes from...!

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agesboy
03/16/20 1:22:51 AM
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another night of e7s down

passed adds phase once but we didnt have enough mitigation for the aoe afterwards so we still died

drk lived to see the next mechanic with living dead and lol @ it

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red13n
03/16/20 1:25:34 AM
#69:


Not_an_Owl posted...
Also Savage is all in your imagination, which makes it a very interesting question as to where the gear actually comes from...!

They are making it for us from our tale while we tell it. We exaggerate a bit but we are a big hero so they make it extra awesome for us.

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BK_Sheikah00
03/16/20 1:41:39 PM
#70:


If I were to get a FF14 figure, it would definitely be Tataru with Carbuncle.

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The Mana Sword
03/17/20 10:42:26 PM
#71:


Alright I got BTN to 80 finally how do I start making gil hand over fist now???

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HeroDelTiempo17
03/17/20 10:54:10 PM
#72:


The Mana Sword posted...
Alright I got BTN to 80 finally how do I start making gil hand over fist now???

There's not really an "obvious" answer to this besides farming new Legendary Node mats on patch days. Maybe the BTN-specific aethersand? Apart from that you have to figure out what is selling well on the market board, which right now is probably mats for the Ishgard Restoration crafts that aren't on the MB? I dunno. Sometimes random old timed node mats sell for a bunch, too.

You can also farm scrips and buy materia to sell.

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X_Dante_X
03/18/20 7:16:55 AM
#73:


The Mana Sword posted...
Alright I got BTN to 80 finally how do I start making gil hand over fist now???

alright the first thing you do is go talk to rodney and embark on an expedition

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BK_Sheikah00
03/18/20 8:52:07 AM
#74:


I now need to kill a Pazuzu in Eureka. Seems like it's never gonna happen now. Moving on then.

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The Mana Sword
03/18/20 9:16:50 AM
#75:


X_Dante_X posted...
alright the first thing you do is go talk to rodney and embark on an expedition

pls no

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HeroDelTiempo17
03/18/20 11:38:56 AM
#76:


oh I misspoke earlier I meant stuff you need for Restoration crafts that aren't from Diadem

BK_Sheikah00 posted...
I now need to kill a Pazuzu in Eureka. Seems like it's never gonna happen now. Moving on then.

You might be able to join a discord or linkshell or one of those goofy group things that coordinates it. Pretty sure people still do Eureka during downtime between patches

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BK_Sheikah00
03/18/20 3:06:13 PM
#77:


I jumped in hoping with the reset there would be more people and it was pretty empty.

Anyway, almost at Shadowbringers. Alphinaud and Yshtola gameplay was neat I guess. But holy shit, feels like they're quickly writing Lyse out of the story now. Figures. But if this is leading up to something similar to HW with just Alisaie and Tataru as my fellow Scions that's cool. But if Tataru doesn't come with me I'll riot.

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HeroDelTiempo17
03/18/20 3:10:10 PM
#78:


BK_Sheikah00 posted...
I jumped in hoping with the reset there would be more people and it was pretty empty.

It's still week 5 of an even patch, give it time and find a discord while you wait

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DoomTheGyarados
03/18/20 3:13:10 PM
#79:


Hi with the plague I may have time to play more ffxiv soon. Is there any way to easily get through older group content (HS) or am I just going to have to do my best out there lol

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HeroDelTiempo17
03/18/20 3:19:39 PM
#80:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Hi with the plague I may have time to play more ffxiv soon. Is there any way to easily get through older group content (HS) or am I just going to have to do my best out there lol

What do you mean by older group content?

For "normal" story content and sidequests (story dungeons, normal raids, 24-mans, sidequests like Triad and 4 Lords) the roulette system makes sure they're always populated with players. Queues might be slightly longer than average but you shouldn't have to worry about it. For hard mode (savage and extreme), no not really, people just cheese those by outleveling now.

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trdl23
03/18/20 3:46:15 PM
#81:


In the past few days, I've brought GSM, ALC, CUL, and WVR all to 70+. LTW was already there.

Now I'm starting BSM.

Kill me now pls.

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The Mana Sword
03/18/20 4:43:55 PM
#82:


Im just sticking with WVR and BTN, I dont have the fortitude to try and level them all.

Ive also decided to become a Ramie Thread mogul, so all you Lamia players make sure to buy it on the market board.

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X_Dante_X
03/18/20 4:45:33 PM
#83:


BK_Sheikah00 posted...
I now need to kill a Pazuzu in Eureka. Seems like it's never gonna happen now. Moving on then.


a) its not required to kill pazuzu. you can buy his feathers for 900 total crystals from the expedition birdwatcher near the north of town

b) pazuzu actually happens all the time. He can literally be solo spawned, and people do it still. if you're on primal, i can just do it for you sometime.
(Note that it still requires gales weather for the NM to spawn, and the monsters are killed at night. Monsters can be killed before gales starts.)

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LordoftheMorons
03/18/20 4:45:59 PM
#84:


Up to 3.5

Not sure why I randomly had to kill Titan again

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HeroDelTiempo17
03/18/20 5:38:09 PM
#85:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Up to 3.5

Not sure why I randomly had to kill Titan again

I hope you paid attention to the fight dialogue

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LordoftheMorons
03/18/20 5:40:59 PM
#86:


HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
I hope you paid attention to the fight dialogue
I did not... was it different?

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HeroDelTiempo17
03/18/20 5:47:32 PM
#87:


LordoftheMorons posted...
I did not... was it different?

Yeah it changes during that quest to reflect the story. I thought it was a neat little moment despite the recycled content

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LordoftheMorons
03/18/20 5:51:48 PM
#88:


Baelsars Wall:

Ilberd being the Griffin was extremely expected. SPLAT was not!

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The Mana Sword
03/18/20 5:55:07 PM
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SomeKindOfJoke
03/19/20 12:45:35 AM
#90:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Baelsars Wall:

Ilberd being the Griffin was extremely expected. SPLAT was not!

I guess this is a side effect of playing the game in a much shorter time window than by release because I had completely forgotten him

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Drakeryn
03/19/20 1:05:24 AM
#91:


The Mana Sword posted...
sloppeh

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KanzarisKelshen
03/19/20 1:19:59 AM
#92:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Hi with the plague I may have time to play more ffxiv soon. Is there any way to easily get through older group content (HS) or am I just going to have to do my best out there lol

Everything but savage fights (and bahamut raids which are savage fights in disguise) is very easily accessible. You can still get savages done unsynced, and if you're willing to wait, with a team that specifically wants to revisit them.

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LordoftheMorons
03/19/20 5:24:27 AM
#93:


Onto Stormblood after these infinite credits finish

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LordoftheMorons
03/19/20 6:54:26 AM
#94:


Wait, if Ala Mhigo is adjacent to Gridania why did all of the refugees end up in Ul'dah?

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X_Dante_X
03/19/20 7:39:56 AM
#95:


would you want to live in a place with kan-e-senna

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KanzarisKelshen
03/19/20 8:08:10 AM
#96:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Wait, if Ala Mhigo is adjacent to Gridania why did all of the refugees end up in Ul'dah?

You know how Gridania has that 'in harmony with nature' schtick? The nature spirits threw a shitfit and refused to accept the new people. Remember Gridania is a town that accepts child sacrifice if it keeps the spirits chill.

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trdl23
03/19/20 9:35:25 AM
#97:


Not to mention Ala Mhigo and Gridania still have plenty of bad blood stemming from the Autumn War.

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agesboy
03/19/20 1:58:00 PM
#98:


plus, there was demand for cheaper-than-dirt labor in Ul'dah because it's oligarchic capitalist hell

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LordoftheMorons
03/19/20 6:56:25 PM
#99:


Halfway through Alexander

I don't even know why I bother looking up the mechanics when everything dies in like 30 seconds...!

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X_Dante_X
03/19/20 7:02:08 PM
#100:


there is absolutely no reason to look up mechanics for normal trials/raids ahead of time

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