Board 8 > Simpsons Mafia Topic 9: Virtual Bart is an Underrated Video Game

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(I would also hope Suprak sent in an action on Night2)
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htaeD posted...

(I would also hope Suprak sent in an action on Night2)

I said N2 he saved HB

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Leanansidhe posted...

I trust HB implicitly so I'm not super excited for that plan. I also know my own alignement, so selfishly I'd rather we both do something to get new info, but I know I'm not exactly trusted so I can deal. Just let me know what the consensus is after I fall asleep before day ends

Hb is easily at or near the top of my scumlist except for the cop claim.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

Can anyone tell me ome major stance Hb has shown or one major cause Hb has meaningfully backed?

*insert simpsons image about a confused character here*
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DoubleTangicide posted...

I said N2 he saved HB

Ah cool. Well again, logical choice.
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Wait, so you want me to scan Lea?
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One reminder about Lea if shes untargetable: She claimed she'd hide night 2 and changed the claim on day 3 before anyone else claimed anything. If anyone had targeted her night 2 it was suicide.

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And in HB's position I might've scanned her.

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And if scum had a jack with a roleblock with Hb being town they'd have used it by now.

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Though MZero did act weirdly towards Hb on day 2. Gotta make something of that.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

One reminder about Lea if shes untargetable: She claimed she'd hide night 2 and changed the claim on day 3 before anyone else claimed anything. If anyone had targeted her night 2 it was suicide.

....A good point.
Though she could be scum untargetable. But even then, good point.
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htaeD posted...

....A good point.
Though she could be scum untargetable. But even then, good point.

That just added nothing. The point is it reduces the chance of it.

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The chance of her having a hide you mean?
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Crescent-Moon posted...

Can anyone tell me ome major stance Hb has shown or one major cause Hb has meaningfully backed?

Hb I'm not letting you ignore this.

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htaeD posted...

The chance of her having a hide you mean?

The chance of her being scum untargetable.

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Yeah I misread the point you were trying to make. My bad.
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Crescent-Moon posted...

Hb I'm not letting you ignore this.

Well, it isn't true, Crescent. Even if I do list the causes I've backed from just today, like the No-Lynch plan or the insane cop stuff, you're just going to argue they don't count.
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Hbthebattle posted...

Well, it isn't true, Crescent. Even if I do list the causes I've backed from just today, like the No-Lynch plan or the insane cop stuff, you're just going to argue they don't count.

I'm more curious what you did days 1 and 2 than today.

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Let's be serious. The masons, cop, and jack cannot all be town. For you to implicitly trust each other would require you to be certain the masons are scum.

I've certainly never gotten that feel from Hb.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

Let's be serious. The masons, cop, and jack cannot all be town. For you to implicitly trust each other would require you to be certain the masons are scum.

I'm not able to make the absolute assumption that the masons are scum. I think it's fairly likely, but guaranteed? No.
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A cop, a jack with a scan and a hide, masons, and self confirming town, feels fairly ludicrous for 16 players.

With inventor, doctor, and vigilante (whatever Ben was) on top.

I guess it is possible the town is just... Stacked, because Sultan didn't know how to balance.

With those 8 powers roles, we have THREE vanilla or miller in the entire game. That's not a lot for 16.

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Wasnt Chris cohosting?

he wouldnt let some of that fly, would he?

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It is unknown how much effect he had on the setup if any.

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DoubleTangicide posted...

Wasnt Chris cohosting?

he wouldnt let some of that fly, would he?

Not necessarily.
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For all the power to be town.. We'd be looking at a team that was SBell/Death/Kaelee/MZero. That's it. That'd be the only possible team.

We barely even have enough people to fit an entire scumteam unless power is lying.

Lea, Han, IGCD, Tange, Hb, and myself, all all currently claimed power. MZero doesn't count.

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And Hb would almost certainly be insane in that case considering he's claimed a scan on two of them.

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Well whatever is decided with power roles, it better be spelled out.
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So basically, if there are no scum in the four other information claims, we already know the scumteam.

So what do you think is more likely, those four being the entire team, or there being a lying power claim?

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If the team was actually 4, not 5, I'd say it'd be possible for the remaining three to all be in there.
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Tange what are you thinking right now?

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Hbthebattle posted...

If the team was actually 4, not 5, I'd say it'd be possible for the remaining three to all be in there.

That would mean both the masons and Lea are scum because it can't be me and we'd certainly still have protection in that case.

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I should note I was speaking from Hb's perspective in that last post

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Leanansidhe posted...

Sbell perfectly predicted puns-mzero scum team then recanted. Let's not forget that

Was this before after or during puns manipulating me into think my reads were wrong?

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Votals

[3]Mzero: (lea), lea, Tange, (IGCD,) HB
[1] No Lynch: (HB)
[1] Lea: SBell, (IGCD,) (Kaelee )
[0] Kaelee: (lea),( Lea)
[0] Sbell: (Lea), (lea) (IGCD)
[0] Han: (Creasent) (lea,) (Kaelee), (lea)

Day ends at 10 pm est friday march 13th with 10 alive it take 6 to hammer.

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Ok so Han says he is still waiting on whether or not he is going to be modkilled.

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I'm good.

So we're calling MZero Scum because Suprak held strong that MZero was Scum after his claim? This is all based on expecting Suprak to have been told that his save on Hb would have been redirected?

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HanOfTheNekos posted...

I'm good.

So we're calling MZero Scum because Suprak held strong that MZero was Scum after his claim? This is all based on expecting Suprak to have been told that his save on Hb would have been redirected?

Yes. And if I remember correctly the only powers traditionally told if they are redirected are powers that get a result.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

Tange what are you thinking right now?

Ive honestly only skimmed since my last post.

the president speaking kind of took precedent in my office and Im going on camera in less than an hour

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DoubleTangicide posted...

Ive honestly only skimmed since my last post.

the president speaking kind of took precedent in my office and Im going on camera in less than an hour

?

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HanOfTheNekos posted...

I'm good.

So we're calling MZero Scum because Suprak held strong that MZero was Scum after his claim? This is all based on expecting Suprak to have been told that his save on Hb would have been redirected?

I think it's more based on Suprak not believing another protection claim

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Okay, so here's the hole.

Who got roleblocked N1, and why wasn't Hb?

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I am pretty sure Tange said he knew his save went to HB, didnt he?
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Perhaps scum had an extra kill and aimed it at me. That's the only explanation I can think of for why I didn't get RBed.
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I don't think Tange ever claimed for night 1.

I don't believe in a scum extra kill being possible unless there are only 4 scum. We already have a setup where the game can end on a day 2 mislynch. Calling Lea scum and giving scum an extra kill don't cancel out. In the latter scenario the likelihood of a day 2 finish is increased.

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And even still I think it's a better play just to roleblock Hb and take two shots at doctor.

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Would Scum be willing to risk a doc save with a plain extra kill? It seems very unlikely. Especially when they could just RB Hb.


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