Board 8 > Simpsons Mafia Topic 9: Virtual Bart is an Underrated Video Game

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DoubleTangicide posted...

if someone posts a current claims list, I will also claim

DoubleTangicide posted...

I dont know about previous nights, but last night, before I replaced in, Suprak saved HB

Why would you need a claims list to claim? That makes his claim look pretty suspicious. Also not getting Suprak's actions is straight up baloney. If you believe that there are 4 scum and this is MyLo, this is a pretty obvious scum ploy to get me lynched and end the game.

##Vote: Tange

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Leanansidhe posted...

There's no world where scum fake claims DOCTOR to get mzero lynched. Especially not a slot regarded so positively regarded. Also, doctor + multi use bus driver? Even I will give that a lol

If it's MyLo than yes there is. Assuming Tange is full of poo and I'm the only protection, lynching me is the only way to guarantee a win for scum. If Tange was going to fake claim to take anyone out, it would be me

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Tange taking so long to do it is the thing that weirds me out really. Like, why did it take so long?

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MZero11 posted...

Why would you need a claims list to claim? That makes his claim look pretty suspicious. Also not getting Suprak's actions is straight up baloney. If you believe that there are 4 scum and this is MyLo, this is a pretty obvious scum ploy to get me lynched and end the game.

##Vote: Tange

Um, while I agree that it is odd that he wanted a claims list before he claimed, I would imagine that the scum team would have a fake ready for him.

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I'm gunna be honest, if you are scum looking to create a mislynch, why come out with that claim now unless we are already on track for lynching necessary scum (Lea).

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I think for Tange to be scum he would've been sent in and have been told to act like a bumbling fool.

That'd be something

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Hbthebattle posted...

I was going to suggest that maybe MZero was telling the truth after all, but the fact he completely vanished and that doctor + bus seems excessive even for Sultan... does not look good for him.

I wonder when people will stop claiming I "vanished" between the hours of midnight and 8AM in my time zone lol

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Tange seems to be doing something else right now too, also Corona stuff happened?
Its hard to judge him.
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Sbell, you have to admit that some players (me included)were starting to feel worried about Tange.
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Um, while I agree that it is odd that he wanted a claims list before he claimed, I would imagine that the scum team would have a fake ready for him.

This is a common fallacy. A lot of scum teams don't communicate as much as town thinks they do


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DoubleTangicide posted...

im a television reporter

hey, good news guys, sultan got back to me

suprak protected Crescent night 1

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Sorry, thats where I went

Im Here till deadline now

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Well almost everyone else seems to have petered out so we'll see what you've got.

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If it really is MyLo, maybe we should go back to the No Lynch plan where Lea doesnt move and I check my alignment on Crescent.
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That plan only works if we believe all the claimed informational roles are town.

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DoubleTangicide posted...

im a television reporter

hey, good news guys, sultan got back to me

suprak protected Crescent night 1

Conveniently didn't target HB so he doesn't look bad when I flip Bus Driver

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MZero11 posted...

Conveniently didn't target HB so he doesn't look bad when I flip Bus Driver

...The game is over if you're town. You just said the game is over if you're town.

Why does looking bad matter?

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Crescent-Moon posted...

...The game is over if you're town. You just said the game is over if you're town.

Why does looking bad matter?

If we go with the no lynch plan or lynch someone else, scum could kill me at night

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MZero11 posted...

If we go with the no lynch plan or lynch someone else, scum could kill me at night

I have to admit just a hint of a giggle came from me on the prospect of you getting killed at night.

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It's also possible that scum is only 3 remaining, but in that case Tange's claim being a scum gambit seems unlikely.

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NL is interesting in one respect and that's who scum kills.

Which is probably me, and I can't say I'd terribly mind not having to go through another 48 hours of this.

I feel like NL is more likely to delay the inevitable than anything.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

NL is interesting in one respect and that's who scum kills.

Which is probably me, and I can't say I'd terribly mind not having to go through another 48 hours of this.

I feel like NL is more likely to delay the inevitable than anything.

It gets me time I need to confirm my sanity, which I think is vital for figuring out this game.
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Hbthebattle posted...

It gets me time I need to confirm my sanity, which I think is vital for figuring out this game.

And what reason do we have to trust those scans?

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scum would be foolish to Nokill at any rate
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Crescent-Moon posted...

And what reason do we have to trust those scans?

Ultimately, youre just going to have to trust me. You can have Lea scan me if youre that worried- she wont die doing it.
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But then we cant trust Lea.
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htaeD posted...

But then we cant trust Lea.

If I can confirm my alignment, I can scan her. And I trust Lea more than the supposed masons.
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No you see, there is nothing in your scenario that lets us trust you both at once.
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htaeD posted...

No you see, there is nothing in your scenario that lets us trust you both at once.

Then I can scan Lea, and we can confirm each other. But that makes me lose the chance to confirm my alignment, I think.
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No it makes you lose the chance to confirm your (in)sanity.

I dont think anything can confirm your alignment short of Mzero proving he is town too.
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htaeD posted...

No it makes you lose the chance to confirm your (in)sanity.

I dont think anything can confirm your alignment short of Mzero proving he is town too.

Lea hiding behind me would confirm my alignment if shes telling the truth, but yes, I did mean to say sanity.
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On the other hand if you are scum, Lea would die and allow scum to win if we NL
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htaeD posted...

On the other hand if you are scum, Lea would die and allow scum to win if we NL

Then have her not use her ability, if youre that worried about me. Ill scan Crescent and confirm my sanity. But again, in this scenario, you cant confirm Lea. Thats the risk you take. We cant do it all at once, even if we lynch someone.
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If you're town you probably have exactly one scan left in the game.

Losing two days worth of mislynches condensed things.

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I cant make it to the deadline at any rate.

HB since I feel you cannot be scum if Mzero is town, can you at least unvote Mzero so I can vote him?
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Okay, now that I'm done running the unexpected errands that I had to run today thanks to coronavirus cancellations.

Doesn't like we have come anywhere nearer to a consensus on what the actual lynch plan is either... a little over an hour away from the lynch deadline, and we've got MZero with two votes and three other people with 1.

I am still leaning towards MZero at this point, but I could also easily see either Lea or Sbell (who are currently voting each other) as scum. In fact, everyone who currently has a vote down is voting for the person who is voting them, with the exception of our probable cop voting for MZero. So current votals are a nulltell, certainly. I can even see the narrative that Tange is scum trying to get MZero mislynched to win the game being the truth.

Hnggg I am not good at these do-or-die potential mylo decisions which is why I was hoping more of a consensus would be reached by now. This is a really really hard one.

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And yes I'm sure it's not

Crescent-Moon posted...

politically correct town syntax

for me to just want to be able to more or less wash my hands of the eventual decision, but all that clarity I felt had come through this morning with Tange's has gotten all muddied up again. I just keep second-guessing my own reads. It's a crapshoot.

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We've got one hour left, right?

Honestly, MZero coming out and counter-voting Tange looks worse than anything.

We can entertain No Lynch still because it gives Tange and MZero another night to possibly prove something, while having our scanners do shit.

I still stand by, if MZero is Scum, then Hb is probably Scum with him.

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##Unvote
##Vote: No Lynch
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But yeah, Hb pushing for No Lynch and Lea NOT hiding feels a lot more Townish of a ploy then going for a lynch.

Scum tries to get a mislynch here.

The only reason Hb as Scum maybe pushes No Lynch MORE at this point is because he sees MZero getting lynched as writing on the wall and wants to avoid getting implicated there.

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I wont mind a NoLynch

But if you do decide to start one, force it before the deadline drops.

Nevertheless, this feels right to me

##Vote: Mzero
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If Mzero is scum, HB almost certainly has to be scum too.
I cant see them as being on opposite sides.
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htaeD posted...

If Mzero is scum, HB almost certainly has to be scum too.
I cant see them as being on opposite sides.

Where did this come from?

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Lea cannot safely use her ability until we get a scum lynched. If we no lynch, she shouldnt use her ability. Thats the end of it.
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My earlier post

HB cant be scum if Mzero is town because why the hell would scum shoot HB?
and Mzero I feel cannot be scum if HB is town because nothing else explains HB's survival
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

But yeah, Hb pushing for No Lynch and Lea NOT hiding feels a lot more Townish of a ploy then going for a lynch.

Scum tries to get a mislynch here.

The only reason Hb as Scum maybe pushes No Lynch MORE at this point is because he sees MZero getting lynched as writing on the wall and wants to avoid getting implicated there.

Why does NL help us "get more scans"? Lea, if town, cannot scan. Hb, if town, likely dies tomorrow night after Tange dies.

As I said before, what does NL achieve except for postponing the inevitable?

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Hb, how do you feel about an MZero lynch?

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Crescent-Moon posted...

Why does NL help us "get more scans"? Lea, if town, cannot scan. Hb, if town, likely dies tomorrow night after Tange dies.

As I said before, what does NL achieve except for postponing the inevitable?

It's more information. A minimal amount, but more.

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MZero11 posted...

Why would you need a claims list to claim? That makes his claim look pretty suspicious. Also not getting Suprak's actions is straight up baloney. If you believe that there are 4 scum and this is MyLo, this is a pretty obvious scum ploy to get me lynched and end the game.

##Vote: Tange

lmfao my vote is staying right where it is

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HanOfTheNekos posted...

It's more information. A minimal amount, but more.

What do we get in return for no action from Lea?

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