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Also I've been thinking how ironic it is for Ben getting himself modkilled to call Lea 100% town and a lot of people are saying she's definitely town.

Wonder what he's thinking now...

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Er, definitely scum.

I failed.

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[6] DYL: (Scare), Lea, (Suprak), (Ben), (Kaelee), (HBthebattle), (Crescent), HBthebattle, (IGCD), (IGCD), (Crescent), (red), Crescent,(red,) (Ben),(kaelee) Death, Red, Scare
[4] Han: (Sbell), (Ben), Sbell, corrik, DYL, Ben
[2] Corrik: (sbell), Han, Kaelee, (Scare)
[1] Mzero: (Sbell,)( Ben,)(Puns), (Red), IGCD
[2] Scare: (Puns), (Sbell), puns, (death), Supark
[0] HB: (DYL), (IGCD), (Han,) (Suprak,)(Kaelee)
[0] Suprak: (Puns),( Corrik,) (Kaelee), (Lea)
[0] Ben: (Suprak), (Kaelee), (IGCD)
[0] Lea: (DYL), (IGCD)
[0] Death: (Han), (Suprak)
[0] IGCD: (Puns)
[0] Puns: (Kaelee), (Lea), (IGCD)
[0] Sbell: (Han)
[0]Red (DYL)

I decided to go grab these, though I don't know if there's anything to get out of them.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

?

im a television reporter

hey, good news guys, sultan got back to me

suprak protected Crescent night 1

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That's um... Interesting?

Suprak was very certain I was town day 1.

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So basically, it seems like no one in the entire game targeted Hb night 1.

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I was going to suggest that maybe MZero was telling the truth after all, but the fact he completely vanished and that doctor + bus seems excessive even for Sultan... does not look good for him.
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That's uh... unbelievable enough for me to imagine it has to be a Town decision.

Anyway, we still have the problem of "why wasn't Hb roleblocked".

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Hbthebattle posted...

I was going to suggest that maybe MZero was telling the truth after all, but the fact he completely vanished and that doctor + bus seems excessive even for Sultan... does not look good for him.

MZero has been gone for as long as he has been each other day, to be fair.

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HanOfTheNekos posted...

That's uh... unbelievable enough for me to imagine it has to be a Town decision.

Anyway, we still have the problem of "why wasn't Hb roleblocked".

I was obvious town last game and died night 1. He thought I was obvious town this game. I can see there being a tenuous logic.

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The fact that no hammer happened on what would be the only role that scum cannot predict, does speak a lot against Mzero

But it would also incriminate HB at the same time.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

That's uh... unbelievable enough for me to imagine it has to be a Town decision.

Anyway, we still have the problem of "why wasn't Hb roleblocked".

I am starting to feel the easy answer here is. He is scum.
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Doc + Bus Driver + Inventor + Cop + Innocent Townie + Vig + Masons

+ Jack

idk, I'm still having trouble not believing MZero.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

I was obvious town last game and died night 1. He thought I was obvious town this game. I can see there being a tenuous logic.

I can see him making the move out of expecting Scum to not shoot Hb.


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HanOfTheNekos posted...

I can see him making the move out of expecting Scum to not shoot Hb.

It's more that it makes sense that it's me specifically.

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Trying to think of why would Tange not say he protected HB here as scum
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Yay I get to head home now

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Man. I called Hb and SBell Scum earlier in the game. If it turns out I was right about that...

hmmmm

IF Lea is Town Jack, who is a scanning Jack, why does she have a Roleblock? That's a weird power to put in there. It makes our scanning effectively whatever Inventor could provide and Jack, which I guess scanning can be low with all the Mason/Ralph energy. But if those two are Scum, we're looking at...

Vig
Doc
Jack (with scans and RB)
Self-confirmer
Masons
Inventor

Feels a little better of a team to be looking at, for sure. Scum RB can hit 4 targets, which isn't bad. What does Scum team end up being, though?

Puns
Hb
Mzero
SBell?
possible 5th person who is ?


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Gonna reread through the day though. Not sure if SBell's reactions make sense as Scum.

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Does Hb hop on the MZero train here if he's Scumbuddy with MZero?

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God, this game, I dont even know. What the fuck is going on?
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Hb, why did you pick your scan targets?

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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Hb, why did you pick your scan targets?

Kaelee was both someone that I didnt have a strong read on initially but when looking back looked kinda bad. Specifically, her mention that my claim sounded like a fake list claim was just bad enough Meta that I wanted to scan her. I originally planned to scan MZero there, but ultimately decided scanning someone who actually was playing the game was going to be more informational.

On night 2, I had originally planned to scan Corrik before his modkill, and after that I jumped around between you, Crescent, and Sbell. I ultimately decided on Sbell because his reaction to MZeros claim was by far the worst and his reaction to when I told him he might get scanned was also super suspect.
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He accepted MZero's claim right away, right?

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HanOfTheNekos posted...

He accepted MZero's claim right away, right?

He didnt see any issues with it until they were pointed out to him.
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Did I go away and start being called scum again?

This is sad.

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What do you think about Tange's claim and what it means for MZero, SBell?

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Well, getting milk on the way home was an adventure. Sign of things changing.

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If it helps, a few possible scumteams with you on it are at least ruled out.
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A nagging thought in the back of my head does say that a NL could lead to a very interesting night.
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SBell was the only person to immediately accept the MZero claim with no reservations as far as I can remember.

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It is kind of interesting to see the masons now humoring the idea of the person I wanted to lynch 12 hours ago being scum.

What's so nice about this is I don't have to worry about every little thing being treated like a perspective slip, so I can just say what's on my mind without having to worry if it's politically correct town syntax or not.

I've said so many things today that would be considered "perspective" slips if I weren't confirmed. I think the perspective slip is one of the most overused things I've come across.

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I dont think those slips are treated that seriously anymore these days myself.
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Why do I feel like someone's going to take "politically correct town syntax" and run with it...

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[2] MZero: (Lea), (Lea), Tange, (IGCD), HB
[1] Sbell: (Lea), (lea), (IGCD), Crescent
[1] Lea: SBell, (IGCD,) (Kaelee)
[0] No Lynch: (Hbthebattle)
[0] Kaelee: (Lea), (Lea)
[0] Han: (Creasent) (lea,) (Kaelee), (lea)

I think this is correct.
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Wait I'm still on SBell? Didn't Lea just vote SBell?

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Wait, I never even voted SBell to begin with.

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Pretend for a moment that votals are a good way to use PoE and that scum is not inadequate enough to hammer.

Mzero/HB/Tange cannot all be town at once at that stage.
HB cannot be scum if Mzero is town because the night1 results would make no sense otherwise.

Then comes the fully subjective
HB being town makes less sense if Mzero is scum, since scum should have just RBed him or killed him.
Yet I dont feel like Tange can be scum here either, his claim was too randomly plotted out and Suprak sounded like he was gonna drop an anvil on Mzero if the modkill hadnt happened.

What it comes down to for me is that I still want to vote Mzero.
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sorry, meant to put Lea there, not Crescent
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IGNORE THE ABOVE VOTALS

[2] MZero: (Lea), (Lea), Tange, (IGCD), HB
[1] Sbell: (Lea), (lea), (IGCD), Lea
[1] Lea: SBell, (IGCD,) (Kaelee)
[0] No Lynch: (Hbthebattle)
[0] Kaelee: (Lea), (Lea)
[0] Han: (Creasent) (lea,) (Kaelee), (lea)
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Ok so, we need to come up with a final decision on what those two are doing.

Or supposedly doing.

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We also need to make a decision on who to lynch before deadline.
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htaeD posted...

We also need to make a decision on who to lynch before deadline.

MZero.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

SBell was the only person to immediately accept the MZero claim with no reservations as far as I can remember.

Thats literally because I have barely been paying attention and can barely remember anything regarding people's actions.

Why do you think I keep reposting it or asking people to repeat themselves.

Look, I didn't read what I missed while I wasn't here and I'm about to cook dinner. But lynching a cop scanned vanilla in this mess of power has got to be one of the worst town decisions. Guessing at godfather? Confirming Sanity of a Cop? None of that is logical.

Me believing someone's claim right off the bat when the explanation makes sense after processing it for a whole of ten seconds and not really thinking about it or discussing it with other players is no reason for me to be scum.

Again, godfather fear will doom you, if you for one second with all these power claims think that a town scanned player is the least likely to be telling the truth then you don't deserve for town to win this game.

With that I'm going to go cook dinner, I'll stop by before the lynchening.

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MZero11 posted...

I didn't act yesterday. I thought scum might shoot me and I didn't want to muddy the waters for other actions after my demise.

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