Current Events > UK man who killed robber in his home is jailed

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lol that applies doubly so for that last post

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Conflict posted...

He tackled him, he wasn't trying to shoot him with a gun. You can attack and restrain them while the police arrive

no no. youre not supposed to do that. Once they are no longer a threat you are to take notes and relay that information to the authorities or you are committing an active assault.

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Conflict posted...

Actually that's different

He tackled him, he wasn't trying to shoot him with a gun. You can attack and restrain them while the police arrive

honestly i have no idea how i'd have restrained him and contacted the police cos i was the only person at home at the time but yeah, that was essentially my thought process.

i think the vast vast majority of people like to think they'd react in a certain way to these things but in reality the adrenaline and general confusion take over big time. i don't even know why i chased the guy, it just seemed like the thing to do. same goes for all these guys who think they'd 360 noscope a burglar immediately, it's all just online bravado

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Conflict posted...

Pretty much. I'm basically just manually ignoring him now because he talks like a child

At this point it's hard to actually comment on the situation in the OP because there are too many gray areas and disabling someone with a knife is of course going to be a lot more difficult than with a gun, but what's super cringe is the notion that not having the free reign to kill criminals that have been restrained, disabled or removed themselves from the situation is "protecting criminals"

And as I already said before; if you do defend yourself and inadvertently kill them in the process, that's still fair game

You make it sound so easy to restrain / disable a criminal in the heat of a fight, especially when your life is on the line and you only get one chance at life.

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NinjaBreakfast posted...

please seek help

You need far more help.

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NinjaBreakfast posted...

i think the vast vast majority of people like to think they'd react in a certain way to these things but in reality the adrenaline and general confusion take over big time. i don't even know why i chased the guy, it just seemed like the thing to do. same goes for all these guys who think they'd 360 noscope a burglar immediately, it's all just online bravado

I understand you chasing him down and tackling him. That's instinct, what I don't understand is you not pummeling him with your fists until he's a bloody pulp.

I don't expect you to 360 no scope, that's just stupid.

But I should expect you to keep on chasing him until you can subdue him. Not just let him escape.

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The deceased returned to the scene of the crime once already.

Whether or not he might come back later wasnt some theoretical thing. It literally happened in this incident.

The deceased also slashed the victim first. And they announced that the victim and the lady there would be the first of ten people they murdered.

The victim blaming in this topic is disgusting, as is the presumption that the victim ever had control of the situation despite the article never stating anything of the sort. Interesting how everyone just knows without evidence that the attacker was incapacitated and was simply trying to flee to go away forever, right after he returned to the scene and attempted to commit murder (because slashing someone with a knife after telling someone you're going to kill them is just that). Yeah, he definitely wouldn't come back again like he literally just did!

But then again, this is the same topic that haa a poster who lied and said the attacker's throat was "slit" despite that not at all being representative of what happened, so I guess this is par for the course.

Artemis86 posted...

The deceased also slashed the victim first. And they announced that the victim and the lady there would be the first of ten people they murdered.

was this recorded on video ? if it wasnt maybe they just didnt believe them without any other witnesses saying the same if he threatened 8 others why didnt they speak up during the trial ?

cant find how much time it passed until he returned
did he call the cops after he left ?
was the stab that killed him one of the first ones ?

Even if the assailant is fleeing, shooting him in the back is fair game to make sure he doesn't double back with more friends to hurt you.

so you think his friends wont try to hurt you if you kill him........ really ?

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marc55 posted...

was this recorded on video

To my knowledge no.

marc55 posted...

if it wasnt maybe they just didnt believe them without any other witnesses saying the same if he threatened 8 others why didnt they speak up during the trial ?

The attacker said it to the victim and the lady there according to the lady who was treated as a witness, and no one is disputing that.

marc55 posted...

cant find how much time it passed until he returned

30 minutes

marc55 posted...

did he call the cops after he left ?

Uncertain, sounds like a neighborhood where they would ignore the call.

marc55 posted...

was the stab that killed him one of the first ones ?

Don't think they know yet, no publically available info.

marc55 posted...

so you think his friends wont try to hurt you if you kill him........ really ?

He was a ne'er do well and unlikely to have friends, but just in this incident alone he demonstrates that leaving the scene doesnt mean giving up on his intent to murder. I mean, the guy was literally wearing an outfit the neighbors knew he used to commit crimes. He had a KNOWN crime-doin' outfit.

Artemis86 posted...

He was a ne'er do well and unlikely to have friends, but just in this incident alone he demonstrates that leaving the scene doesnt mean giving up on his intent to murder. I mean, the guy was literally wearing an outfit the neighbors knew he used to commit crimes. He had a KNOWN crime-doin' outfit.

the way the poster i was quoting worded this it wasnt about this specific case (cant remember if it was you or not )

found the statement dumb because if its the robber friends comming to your home what are you worried about killing the robber wont stop them

i read about victims who killed the robber and had to move away they didnt feel safe anyomre

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I've seen videos of dudes getting stabbed a dozen times and they were still able to run away.

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