Board 8 > Percussion Mafia Topic 7

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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

##vote:Balla

maybe i shouldnt have trusted you spit it out man

I am literally telling you dude who says he healed Chris would have had his action failed.

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So your saying HB was blocked night 1 and he didn't claim it.

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If you blocked chris then Tange never got the cowbell

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How respond ye, HB?

I know how this is gonna go already.

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Unless stopper is different then blocker

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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

If you blocked chris then Tange never got the cowbell

Rolestopped. He didn't roleblock Chris. Keep up.

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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

If you blocked chris then Tange never got the cowbell

Rolestopper not roleblocker. He would have said his action failed BOTH nights.

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Corrik7 posted...

How respond ye, HB?

I know how this is gonna go already.

I wasnt blocked on Chris. Ballas gotta be lying here.
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So you directly refute this claim.

I thought for sure you would say you were roleblocked but didn't want to out you still had your doc save.

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So, HB is probably scum because Balla probably didn't 1 for 1 here.

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Hbthebattle posted...

I wasnt blocked on Chris. Ballas gotta be lying here.

The better move would have been to say you didn't read your PM or something.

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BallaLeonHall posted...

The better move would have been to say you didn't read your PM or something.

Its the truth.
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Balla, any reason you didn't claim this earlier with all the scrutiny that was going to Scare for having claimed actions against him fail?

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Balla, does your ability stop kills?

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With how weird these roles are I would like a full claim of exactly what your role stopper does

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Posting from phone. But rolestopper being town makes a lot more sense than scum.
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Panthera posted...

Balla, any reason you didn't claim this earlier with all the scrutiny that was going to Scare for having claimed actions against him fail?

Waited until the end of the day so more posts to look back on.

Corrik7 posted...

Balla, does your ability stop kills?

I am not a doctor.

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htaeD posted...

Posting from phone. But rolestopper being town makes a lot more sense than scum.

I question this. I dont know if I use this as town.

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Balla, when you use your ability on someone, does it stop all actions, or do kills still go through.

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Like by using it on Chris he would have stopped a doctor save on him. Thats awful

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Oh i miss understand good job Balla

##vote:Hb

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Soo I went to bed with a headache. Woke up with that headache still there. Then I decided "Guess I'll take some Nyquil. I just woke up so surely it do what mama said and knock me out."

Yeeeeeeah.

Anyway let's start with the Terrific Tracker Trio (Sultan/Uwnim/and 5tar(now Plum)

Sultan and Uwnim shared some suspicion about Red due to him "counterclaiming" Ben's obvious fake claim but not going on him. Sultan goes in far harder though. Goes after Chris a bit, weirdly hints power, asks for a same time... and then just claims without doing the sametime anyway. I'm speaking from a biased point of view, but his mini rant about looking like scum if he's too lax or too aggressive makes me like him a bit more. At the very least, I don't think scum pokes chest so early with strong players like he has.

He's originally on Panth during the tiebreaker but hops off on Chris. While Lea did unvote Panth first, Sultan's vote put him at 3, making it extremely unlikely for scum to save Puns at that point unless they stuck their neck way out. Well, unless both were scum but not sure how likely that is.

Attempted to make a tie day 2 but failed.

Tracked Red, was redirected.
Tracked Plum to Lea.

Sultan feels town to me. He has a nice level of aggression, he tries to get reads from people, he isn't afraid to draw attention to himself.

Uwnim starts off a bit awkwardly, seemingly taking Ben's fakeclaim seriously. Ben votes him and unvotes him pretty casually, but it was more than likely just Ben trying to bait him. Casts suspicion on Red for not voting Ben with his "counter claim". He made a post early on I really liked.

uwnim posted...

So to summarize, Sultan jumped onto my red is scum thing and then pushed for it harder than I was but with bad reasoning. Then switched to chris because chris was too lazy to vote. Unvoted chris when asked if he was going anywhere with that(indicating sultan cares too much about how he looks). Doesn't go back to red. When voted by Chris, assumes chris has to be town who is wrong instead of possibly scum.

Yeah, I can see why he'd be getting votes.

An utterly accurate summarization of events, so he's at least paying attention to the game.
Day 1 he doesn't end up on either of the lynch leaders and ended day on Red.

Day 2 he gives a town read of Corrik on Sultan's request, no strong scum read but he still doesn't trust Red. Again ends the day on Red.

Tracked Tange, got movement(Chris gave Tange an item)
Tracked me, got no motion.

I like his decision to track me because I'm not terribly likely to be targeted by scum("He can talk once after flip, get him!") and if any other town targeted me they could just claim that. Overall uwnim has been actively participating in the game. While I feel he hasn't been as aggressive as say Sultan, he's also been trying to figure things out. Probably town.

5tar/plum I notice right away tends to say things that either don't mean much of anything, or are inconclusive. Things like "Lea is lucky she didn't vote Ben right away" or

5tarscream posted...

I think Chris is either scum or not bothered, Corrik could be using this as an opportunity to eliminate Chris early without wasting a kill or he could just think Chris is scum. Chris has town cleared a lot of people so far.

Chris is scum or not. Corrik could be scum trying to get rid of Chris... or he could just think Chris is scum.

And then he votes Chris. His argument for Chris largely seems to be "Chris isn't taking this game as seriously"... in a game where town died for correctly voting scum. He goes from saying he doesn't like Chris getting a "free Pass" and not taking the game seriously... from saying that neither of those are damning and unvotes him.

Says MZero looks town to him, but never answers why. Ends day being on no one. His whole contribution is basically "Chris may or may not be scum. Corrik may or may not be scum". Voted Chris for extremely flimsy reasons, and never explained anything.

Masterplum replaces

Calls for a mass claims which is an interesting play regardless of alignment.

Claims no action submitted on night 1... Targeted Lea night 2 and got motion(Scare visited) [Sult confirms Plum moved to Lea]

Curious why plum suspects me not moving(Or being targeted by anyone else) would make me scum. Plum doesn't seem to trust Sultan or Lea, which is odd because Sultan confirms his n2 claim.

Plums certainly has played much better, but 5tar's behavior still doesn't make me feel good about him. If there's scum in the three, I'd say it's him.

Sultan
Uwnim
Plum(Formerly 5tar)

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I hate these reaction HB votes

Balla, explain your thought process picking chris night 1

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hb was already my number 2 thought

but I think our best bet is scare today

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masterplum posted...

I question this. I dont know if I use this as town.

I am already questioning what I said, since I didnt see him saying the part about it not stopping nightkills.
I just assumed it made the target untargetable 100 %. Now it does sound like a role that could fit scum more than town.

Still though, why use it on Scare?
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DoubleTangicide posted...

hb was already my number 2 thought

but I think our best bet is scare today

so thr guy you scanned as innocent is lying?

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Tange I am starting to worry about you.
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DoubleTangicide posted...

hb was already my number 2 thought

but I think our best bet is scare today

...Why scare first?

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masterplum posted...

Like by using it on Chris he would have stopped a doctor save on him. Thats awful

Didn't Balla even make a comment about how he thought Chris was hyped up as a guy scum would kill N1 sometime during day 2?

I think I'm leaning towards buying Balla here based on him explaining the Scare scenario and his obvious immediate disbelief of HB but I think I want a better explanation of the thought process behind using this role on who he did first

DoubleTangicide posted...

hb was already my number 2 thought

but I think our best bet is scare today

What

When the guy you scanned innocent is flat out claiming to actually have caused your scan on Scare to have failed?

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BallaLeonHall posted...

so thr guy you scanned as innocent is lying?

I didnt say that

i just think that we shouldnt let scare slip through our grasp

I can scan HB tonight and see what turns up

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If it doesn't stop nightkills then the nightkill being stopped remains in question still and only HB has claimed a role that can stop it. So, Balla probably scum and HB town.

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Hm. Its possible scum is desperate to get protection out of the way, when a dozen scanners are waiting to act tonight.
But I dont know. Balla was scanned innocent. Would scum sacrifice their inno-scanned player?
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I mean, the literal only explanation for no kill night 1 is that Mzero died or something and doesn't know it. Unless HB blocked it. Nobody else in the entire game has claimed a role that can stop a kill at all

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DoubleTangicide posted...

I didnt say that

i just think that we shouldnt let scare slip through our grasp

I can scan HB tonight and see what turns up

Ok, tange, listen for a moment.
Part of the reason you are wanting scare dead is because he was untargetable, part of it is because you haven't liked him since d1.
Person you said you scanned town took responsibility for the untargetable stuff.
His claim means that either he or hb is lying, so one of them is scum.

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And I cannot see scum shooting Mzero at all.
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htaeD posted...

And I cannot see scum shooting Mzero at all.

Well, maybe if they thought Mzero claimed bomb defuser and they have bombs to use? But, then again, Mzero scans for a bomb being present also. So, I can't see him being the shot regardless.

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Thoughts on that scum could plant a bomb instead of nightkill night 1 and they planted on Mzero and somehow the bomb is a delayed kill + an extra kill later on somehow?

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Corrik7 posted...

Thoughts on that scum could plant a bomb instead of nightkill night 1 and they planted on Mzero and somehow the bomb is a delayed kill + an extra kill later on somehow?

Wouldn't that require scum to already know mzero is deathproof?
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Maybe if Mzero is mislynched in a certain amount of time or something it gives them an extra kill. Mzero could be a good target for a possibly mislynch down the road. He rolls scum a ton.

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Hbthebattle posted...

Wouldn't that require scum to already know mzero is deathproof?

Quite the opposite actually.

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uwnim posted...

His claim means that either he or hb is lying, so one of them is scum.

I don't disagree

which is why I want to scan one of them tonight to find out for sure

but my gut tells me it's scare and HB

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HB had to of targeted someone else than Chris if he is scum. Because if scum he had no reason to not claim being roleblocked.

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Corrik7 posted...

Thoughts on that scum could plant a bomb instead of nightkill night 1 and they planted on Mzero and somehow the bomb is a delayed kill + an extra kill later on somehow?

Could be the case. But if HB is scum, then we still have no kill protection.
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htaeD posted...

Could be the case. But if HB is scum, then we still have no kill protection.

Mzero and Lea lolol...

But maybe that's why we have 500 scanners.

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Corrik7 posted...

Maybe if Mzero is mislynched in a certain amount of time or something it gives them an extra kill. Mzero could be a good target for a possibly mislynch down the road. He rolls scum a ton.

Corrik not that kind of logic again.
Though I do agree that Mzero tends to get suspected a lot.
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Corrik7 posted...

Mzero and Lea lolol...

But maybe that's why we have 500 scanners.

Such selfish players.
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Chris had a bombproof also. I have a bomb scanner. Maybe I am supposed to let town know where bombs are to prevent lynching them or for where Chris to use his Bombproof (obviously that ship has sailed).

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There is also the option that someone is lying and is doctor. But, I doubt it at this point.

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Corrik7 posted...

HB had to of targeted someone else than Chris if he is scum. Because if scum he had no reason to not claim being roleblocked.

He did, didnt he? But then he switched to getting an action failure?
I mean the distinction between what PM you get is up to the host, but still..
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