Board 8 > Percussion Mafia Topic 7

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##vote: HB


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htaeD posted...

He did, didnt he? But then he switched to getting an action failure?
I mean the distinction between what PM you get is up to the host, but still..

You misread that. If HB is scum who targeted Chris and was roleblocked, he had no reason to not claim being blocked instead of saying he was successful.

Thus, if he is scum, he didn't target Chris and didn't know about the block on Chris because he didn't go to Chris.

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Balla when did you flip your view on me to feeling I was town?

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Of course I also dont know why scum would go for a bomb over a direct kill on just about anyone..
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htaeD posted...

Of course I also dont know why scum would go for a bomb over a direct kill on just about anyone..

Well, the theory is that the bomb turns into an extra kill for them.

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Corrik7 posted...

You misread that. If HB is scum who targeted Chris and was roleblocked, he had no reason to not claim being blocked instead of saying he was successful.

Thus, if he is scum, he didn't target Chris and didn't know about the block on Chris because he didn't go to Chris.

Ah. That does add up.
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It means whoever didn't move night 1 thought they were roleblocked by town so scum kill didn't move night 1 at all

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Fastbreak posted...

It means whoever didn't move night 1 thought they were roleblocked by town so scum kill didn't move night 1 at all

What lol

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Balla's actions don't make sense. If his role isn't protective, why would he use it on Chris and a claimed cop where it could fuck up actual protection but let kills go through?
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Hbthebattle posted...

Balla's actions don't make sense. If his role isn't protective, why would he use it on Chris and a claimed cop where it could fuck up actual protection but let kills go through?

This is true.

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Corrik7 posted...

What lol

This means balla, as rolestopper, stopped the kill on Chris

Scum, assumes that town has a roleblocker and luckily blocked the kill

The kill didn't move night 1

Scum may have expected to get exposed day 2 from that

And expected no doctor hence hb doc claim and being vague before

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All I can say is that rolestop makes sense as town on town or scum on scum. Scum using it on town doesn't make a lot of sense.

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Fastbreak posted...

This means balla, as rolestopper, stopped the kill on Chris

Scum, assumes that town has a roleblocker and luckily blocked the kill

The kill didn't move night 1

Scum may have expected to get exposed day 2 from that

And expected no doctor hence hb doc claim and being vague before

He said he can't stop the kill with his power.

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Wait, rolestopper doesn't stop kills?

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Corrik7 posted...

He said he can't stop the kill with his power.

....what

Then where did the kill go?

This still makes hb scum but there is still protection out there then? And they got it right,

Thats another confirmed Town then. And if they're alive may as well claim it

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But scum if roleblocked would have gotten an action failed message instead of a success and the target still alive message it seems. Or roleblock message depending on host.

But, on the flip side, HB claimed a roleblock as his 3rd power.

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can you say how your role works again then bala?


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Dark Young Link posted...

Wait, rolestopper doesn't stop kills?

He said this twice. Which is why people said it didn't make sense he used it on Chris and scare.

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Corrik7 posted...

All I can say is that rolestop makes sense as town on town or scum on scum. Scum using it on town doesn't make a lot of sense.

Not necessarily. If the rolestop doesn't stop kills, it essentially can be used by scum as a strongman. As for why I wasn't blocked... if Balla is telling the truth about his role, then I had to have been redirected.
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BallaLeonHall posted...

I am not a doctor.

Okay so Balla is saying that his ability doesn't stop kills.

So.. why didn't Chris die night 1?

And if he can't prevent kills... what sense does it make to use it on the most likely kill target?

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Hbthebattle posted...

Not necessarily. If the rolestop doesn't stop kills, it essentially can be used by scum as a strongman. As for why I wasn't blocked... if Balla is telling the truth about his role, then I had to have been redirected.

You would have been told if redirected? I was.

And, scare isn't dead. Nor is Chris. So, it isn't being used as you described.

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I have to go to sleep. Lynch Panthera or HB. Maybe I'll wake up by deadline.

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Corrik7 posted...

You would have been told if redirected? I was.

Ok, well, then, I didn't get any such message. Balla has to be lying then.
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Dark Young Link posted...

Okay so Balla is saying that his ability doesn't stop kills.

So.. why didn't Chris die night 1?

And if he can't prevent kills... what sense does it make to use it on the most likely kill target?

How do you know he was targeted for death night 1?

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When isn't Chris targeted night 1?

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Hbthebattle posted...

Ok, well, then, I didn't get any such message. Balla has to be lying then.

You would have been told your action failed if you were telling the truth. I gave you a second chance earlier by asking you how you knew your n2 action failed and you admitted you still said you just got a failure for scare

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BallaLeonHall posted...

You would have been told your action failed if you were telling the truth. I gave you a second chance earlier by asking you how you knew your n2 action failed and you admitted you still said you just got a failure for scare

My action did not fail N1.
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Balla. Why did you pick Chris and Scare to target?

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Dark Young Link posted...

When isn't Chris targeted night 1?

When scum doesnt have a way to get around protection.
Granted if Balla is scum, they would have a way. But they could also have another way around protection.
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Ah, that's true.

Hrm. I think Corrik mentioned something about delayed kills since he apparently found a bomb on MZero. What do you think of that mixed in with the balla vs hb thing we've got here?

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You're asking me I presume.
I honestly dont know what to make of it all, as I said before.
I still feel a normal kill should have gone somewhere. But its just as likely someone is hiding protection.
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(an no dont come forward with that info now, if you are. Obviously)
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This is a good use of time.
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Votals
[4] Hb - (Corrik), (MZero), (Sultan), Balla, Lea, Sultan, Corrik
[2] Panth - (Corrik), Scare, Death
[1] Scare - Tange, (Sultan)
[1] Plum - Crescent
[1] DYL - Panth
[1] Sultan - Plum
[1] Balla - (Lea), (DYL), (Scare), Hb, (Sultan)
[0] MZero - (Plum)
[0] Tange - (Damion), (Scare)
[0] Lea - (Plum)

Day ends in 1 hour and 16 minutes.

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Well that was a fun read after my nap, but Lea coming out of absolutely nowhere to make that vote and not contribute in any other way was.. Something to note.

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I compared the convenience of Hb's claim today to MZero in Simpsons and the parallels are staggering.

We still have nothing to explain the no death. I'm currently trying to picture a scenario in which scum had to no kill to use some other power.

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Dark Young Link posted...

Ah, that's true.

Hrm. I think Corrik mentioned something about delayed kills since he apparently found a bomb on MZero. What do you think of that mixed in with the balla vs hb thing we've got here?

Something possibly related to this... Bomb thing.

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Also, Targeting the cop night 2 makes sense with Balla's claim. He saw no kill night ome, which suggests we have protection. Scum in this case is far more likely to roleblock a cop claim than shoot it.

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And also, at the end if day 2, he mocked Chris for not being killed night 1, which is one if the things that triggered my town read on him.

If Balla knew that he had made it so nothing could affect Chris but a kill, he'd have already known for sure that Chris was not shot night 1 and made that comment out of a position of knowledge.

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At this rate I feel like HB and Panth and Lea are all somehow in cahoots (I just wanted to say that word)

And with the game being this slow, I feel like I have no choice but to make sure nothing weird happens while I am gone by strengthening a direction.

Ergo
##Unvote
##Vote: HB
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Like the claim seems super convenient to just pop out of nowhere but I don't get why scum does it. Balla was nowhere near getting lynched after the innocent scan from Tange. He has various little actions that add up to his claim.

One thing I will add is this happened shortly after Panthera took the lead with 3 votes. If Hb flips town I trust Panthera even less.

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htaeD posted...

At this rate I feel like HB and Panth and Lea are all somehow in cahoots (I just wanted to say that word)

And with the game being this slow, I feel like I have no choice but to make sure nothing weird happens while I am gone by strengthening a direction.

Ergo
##Unvote
##Vote: HB

Lea has 0 posts in this topic other than her sudden vote for Hb. Lea is genuinely giving me the feel that she's trying to look scummy by doing this.

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Yeah, like I don't see how this would be a fair trade for scum if Balla is lying. A scum with a town scan being exchanged for a protection jack who has already used doctor and rb doesn't seem like a reasonable idea.

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He claimed using Doctor and getting RBed on using Bodyguard. He never claimed to use the RB.

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uwnim posted...

Yeah, like I don't see how this would be a fair trade for scum if Balla is lying. A scum with a town scan being exchanged for a protection jack who has already used doctor and rb doesn't seem like a reasonable idea.

This is why I'm looking right at Panthera if Hb flips town.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

Also, Targeting the cop night 2 makes sense with Balla's claim. He saw no kill night ome, which suggests we have protection. Scum in this case is far more likely to roleblock a cop claim than shoot it.

but targeting Chris makes zero sense with how often he's shot.
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Hbthebattle posted...

Balla's actions don't make sense. If his role isn't protective, why would he use it on Chris and a claimed cop where it could fuck up actual protection but let kills go through?

This

And balla disappeared. This is a scum role with scum targets

##Unvote
##Vote:Balla

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Crescent-Moon posted...

He claimed using Doctor and getting RBed on using Bodyguard. He never claimed to use the RB.

Sorry, meant BG. Got the initialisms mixed up.

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You guys are acting like scum always acts perfectly. I'm super confidant balls is scum thinking hb is lying

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Though really, I've disliked everything Hb has done regarding his claim, though I dislike neither of them sticking around to see this through.

By the way Corrik: Let's say Hb flips some super redirection like you think Panthera is. What do you think Panthera is?

I could see scum seeing Chris trying to give a gift and redirecting it onto scum, although that's such a bastard role to go with Chris' claim.

But that would suggest.. If he flips some sort of super redirection, that Uwnim is scum with him.

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