Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 298: Blood Sugar Flex Magik

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Aecioo
05/29/20 7:20:05 AM
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Peace___Frog
05/29/20 7:22:30 AM
#453:


How fucking stupid are these cops

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LordoftheMorons
05/29/20 7:30:20 AM
#454:


https://twitter.com/tvietor08/status/1266214148469256193?s=21

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Dark Young Link
05/29/20 8:00:19 AM
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Inviso
05/29/20 8:10:30 AM
#456:


The problem with the whole "don't resist arrest and you'll be fine" mentality is that there's no real definition of what consistutes "resisting", nor is there an across-the-board guideline for the amount of force needed to subdue a resisting suspect (or for how long, in the case of this most recent killing). The police are essentially granted carte blanche with how they react in any situation, and there is at least a pattern of unarmed black men being viewed as inherently more threatening, and thus regarded with greater, often deadly force.

I mean, since we're talking about Minnesota, let's remember Philando Castile. He was pulled over, not under any sort of arrest, and he was shot seven times in the driver's seat of his vehicle, in front of his girlfriend and her daughter. He was a licensed gun owner and informed the officer of this, presumably because he was afraid that, when he went to reach for his registration, the sight of a gun would frighten the officer into shooting him. Then, after a RAPID exchange in which the officer pulled his gun and barked several orders, Philando Castile was shot.

The officer, after the fact, claimed he feared for his life because he smelled marijuana and thought that Philando's decision to risk his girlfriend's daughter's lungs with second-hand smoke made him a threat. This is part of the problem. The police are always given the benefit of the doubt. You can justify almost anything under the broad umbrellas of "resisting arrest" and "I feared for my life".

While this new case is going on, there's that second case that happened in Louisville. Police allegedly executed a no-knock search warrant on the apartment of someone completely unrelated to the criminal they had already caught earlier in the day. Kenneth Walker, believing an intruder was breaking into his home, fired upon the intruders with his legally-licensed firearm. The police shot back and killed Kenneth's girlfriend. The only person arrested at that scene...was Kenneth Walker. Admittedly, the situation is murkier because the "we knocked"/"they didn't knock" argument, but that's not gonna bring Breonna Taylor back. And even if the police DID knock...no knock search warrants ARE a thing...and what's stopping them from playing out in this EXACT same way?

It just feels like the police are granted far too much leeway in how they act, and black citizens are treated in a harsher, perhaps more fearful manner than their white counterparts. And no one seems interested in addressing this problem that keeps popping up, over and over again, across the country.

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SmartMuffin
05/29/20 8:21:21 AM
#457:


This seems legit... get me in on some sweet bailout action



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Dark Young Link
05/29/20 8:29:22 AM
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It makes no sense that police officers who are given such power over us are expected to have more leeway in how they behave, meanwhile citizens like us have to be perfect at all times and if we have the audacity to ever be afraid in a situation(Like say, not instantly knowing the people kicking down your door unannounced are police and not robbers) then that apparently makes it okay for us to be killed like a rabid dog.

More power = Less responsibility?

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Reg
05/29/20 8:31:05 AM
#459:


Dark Young Link posted...
Apparently they were released.

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1266332090653724674

https://edition.cnn.com/us/live-news/george-floyd-protest-updates-05-28-20/h_650444eb05a8557353ff84731cc81808

Imagine if that incident couldn't be shown to millions as it was happening.
What the fuck

(Not at the release itself, aside from the fact that it had to happen at all. Just that whole thread what the fuck)
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Peace___Frog
05/29/20 8:37:26 AM
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Dark Young Link posted...
It makes no sense that police officers who are given such power over us are expected to have more leeway in how they behave, meanwhile citizens like us have to be perfect at all times and if we have the audacity to ever be afraid in a situation(Like say, not instantly knowing the people kicking down your door unannounced are police and not robbers) then that apparently makes it okay for us to be killed like a rabid dog.

More power = Less responsibility?
Yep, all under the guise of being a "public servant". And they see it as a license to do whatever the fuck they want, apparently.

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FFDragon
05/29/20 8:43:37 AM
#461:


What do you do when Twitter hits you for inciting violence from your personal account before going to sleep?

Double down by reposting it to the official white house Twitter when you wake up!

https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1266342941649506304?s=20

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Mr Lasastryke
05/29/20 8:50:58 AM
#462:


"just shoot them all" well that's one way to end these riots

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LinkMarioSamus
05/29/20 9:17:18 AM
#463:


Dancedreamer posted...
I feel like the only ad Joe Biden needs to run is one that plays him underestimating the corona virus, and then putting up the stark figure of 100k americans died under his watch.

This whole thing just really irks me. Apparently it was super horrible that Hillary Clinton committed war crimes even though she had already been cleared of wrongdoing (plus she helped coordinate the attack that captured bin Laden), but those same people say nothing about the millions of CIVILIANS whose lives have been put in danger through Trump's negligence? WTF.

Yes, I'm still bitter Hillary Clinton lost. Not just because Trump. And I don't give a toss about feminism anyways, so don't accuse me of that.

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xp1337
05/29/20 9:21:12 AM
#464:


FFDragon posted...
What do you do when Twitter hits you for inciting violence from your personal account before going to sleep?

Double down by reposting it to the official white house Twitter when you wake up!
literally using the official WH twitter account like a burner alt when your main gets modded

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Peace___Frog
05/29/20 9:22:34 AM
#465:


Lms, no one would dare accuse you of being a feminist. Many users here actually are feminists.

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Nelson_Mandela
05/29/20 9:41:11 AM
#466:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/TwitterComms/status/1266267449650864128?s=20
Lmfao

Is Twitter also locking the thousands of tweets encouraging people to loot/riot?

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Jakyl25
05/29/20 9:44:43 AM
#467:


Nelson_Mandela posted...

Lmfao

Is Twitter also locking the thousands of tweets encouraging people to loot/riot?


Go report those tweets and then report back to us
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Nelson_Mandela
05/29/20 9:48:47 AM
#468:


They need to be really careful about this. Trump is extraordinarily petty and the platform vs publisher liability differences could open them up to extreme litigation. Red Sox probably knows better, but if they're treated like a publisher, they become responsible for ALL the illegal shit that is posted on there by anyone.

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Mr Lasastryke
05/29/20 9:51:03 AM
#469:


wow this really is like gamefaqs drama, right down to people going "BUT THESE OTHER POSTS DIDN'T GET MODDED"

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SmartMuffin
05/29/20 9:51:10 AM
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MoogleKupo141
05/29/20 9:53:57 AM
#471:


he said mostly a protest

look at all the buildings that arent on fire
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xp1337
05/29/20 10:06:11 AM
#472:


Twitter should up its troll game and ban Trump's account with the explicit explanation that his EO means they are unwilling to open themselves up to the legal liability of being responsible for the content of his tweets by leaving them there.

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HeroDelTiempo17
05/29/20 10:06:46 AM
#473:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
They need to be really careful about this. Trump is extraordinarily petty and the platform vs publisher liability differences could open them up to extreme litigation. Red Sox probably knows better, but if they're treated like a publisher, they become responsible for ALL the illegal shit that is posted on there by anyone.

Good

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iiaattgg
05/29/20 10:23:54 AM
#474:


SmartMuffin posted...
https://twitter.com/TheFirstonTV/status/1266366188877000706
Thats one of the most amazing things i have ever seen

Its the living embodiment of the dog in the house on fire meme

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LinkMarioSamus
05/29/20 11:22:57 AM
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Peace___Frog posted...
Lms, no one would dare accuse you of being a feminist. Many users here actually are feminists.

Good. Because I'm starting to seriously believe that Trump is president just because people didn't want a woman in office.

I mean, obviously it's not as simple as that, but it's what it comes down to.

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Jakyl25
05/29/20 11:32:43 AM
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PerfectChaosZ
05/29/20 11:42:27 AM
#477:


You guys know that the fires were started by the police and now theyre refusing to let the fire department put them out?
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UshiromiyaEva
05/29/20 11:42:41 AM
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KamikazePotato
05/29/20 11:53:20 AM
#479:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/mollyhc/status/1266375603864735746?s=21

This is pretty righteous
Omega level flex

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SmartMuffin
05/29/20 11:54:38 AM
#480:


How does that Indian restaurant burning down make it more likely the officer will be charged?

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ChaosTonyV4
05/29/20 12:24:29 PM
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iiaattgg posted...
Thats one of the most amazing things i have ever seen

Its the living embodiment of the dog in the house on fire meme

From my point of view, the reporter is speaking personally: Theyre not unruly because theyre not threatening me or anything, and yeah, the people around him in that clip all seem pretty calm?

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Nelson_Mandela
05/29/20 12:34:12 PM
#482:


SmartMuffin posted...
How does that Indian restaurant burning down make it more likely the officer will be charged?
The fact that you are asking this question proves your white privilege and racism

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Nelson_Mandela
05/29/20 12:43:44 PM
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But seriously, this looting is the equivalent of flipping over your own car to make a point.

Do these people realize that no one is going to change anything or give two shits as long as their own interests/property isn't threatened? There is a reason why the city is just letting them run wild in their own part of town until they forget about everything in a week or two.

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iiaattgg
05/29/20 12:48:31 PM
#484:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
From my point of view, the reporter is speaking personally: Theyre not unruly because theyre not threatening me or anything, and yeah, the people around him in that clip all seem pretty calm?
I can understand that viewpoint completely. Its just the imagery of a burning building behind him that makes it so stark

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pyresword
05/29/20 12:53:54 PM
#485:


PerfectChaosZ posted...
You guys know that the fires were started by the police and now theyre refusing to let the fire department put them out?

I've seen this claim floating around on Twitter but is there any actual evidence of this?

Nelson_Mandela posted...
Do these people realize that no one is going to change anything or give two shits as long as their own interests/property isn't threatened?

I mean yes this is the point. Apparently not enough people give a shit about systemic injustice because they aren't suffering as a result, but perhaps if enough riots are started then those people will begin to feel threatened.

To be clear I think the protesters have gone way too far here, but I think the mindset is easy enough to understand.
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SmartMuffin
05/29/20 1:02:17 PM
#486:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
From my point of view, the reporter is speaking personally: Theyre not unruly because theyre not threatening me or anything, and yeah, the people around him in that clip all seem pretty calm?

FROM MY POINT OF VIEW THE JEDI ARE EVIL

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RPGlord95
05/29/20 1:04:39 PM
#487:


Then you are lost!

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Jakyl25
05/29/20 1:07:33 PM
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

Do these people realize that no one is going to change anything or give two s***s as long as their own interests/property isn't threatened? There is a reason why the city is just letting them run wild in their own part of town until they forget about everything in a week or two.


I dunno, Corrik was claiming that these riots are making everyone in the area afraid and more likely to vote red
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Grimlyn
05/29/20 1:20:18 PM
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Umbreon
05/29/20 1:20:43 PM
#490:


Jakyl25 posted...
I dunno, Corrik was claiming that these riots are making everyone in the area afraid and more likely to vote red


Spoilers: That's the same thing people like him say if peaceful protest is inconvenient in any way.

"If you make people late for work because your protest is blocking a street, people will turn against your cause." or something like that.


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Jakyl25
05/29/20 1:22:57 PM
#491:


Im just trying to pit two conservative thought leaders against each other
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Nelson_Mandela
05/29/20 1:23:49 PM
#492:


Jakyl25 posted...
I dunno, Corrik was claiming that these riots are making everyone in the area afraid and more likely to vote red

No one is afraid because the looting doesn't cross outside of the black community. Which is why the riots are the most extraordinarily counterproductive and stupid thing imaginable. They are simultaneously accomplishing no social change while wrecking their own neighborhood and stealing from each other. The white supremacists are laughing hysterically right now.

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Jakyl25
05/29/20 1:30:56 PM
#493:


Nelson_Mandela posted...


No one is afraid because the looting doesn't cross outside of the black community. Which is why the riots are the most extraordinarily counterproductive and stupid thing imaginable. They are simultaneously accomplishing no social change while wrecking their own neighborhood and stealing from each other. The white supremacists are laughing hysterically right now.


Hey, it got the cop arrested
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PerfectChaosZ
05/29/20 1:32:03 PM
#494:


Wow, a cop actually got arrested? I guess riots are better than protests.
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UshiromiyaEva
05/29/20 1:34:52 PM
#495:


I mean that's something that everyone knows but doesn't like to talk about.

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neonreaper
05/29/20 1:38:08 PM
#496:


The white supremacists are laughing hysterically right now.

no, he got arrested

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Nelson_Mandela
05/29/20 1:38:52 PM
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Jakyl25 posted...
Hey, it got the cop arrested
The cop was getting arrested no matter what. If anything, the riots are going to be ammo for his defense attorney to claim any trial he receives is not impartial.

Anyway, the correct response here is to do nothing. Same outcome re: racial injustice but at least your favorite Indian restaurant isn't burned down.

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Jakyl25
05/29/20 1:41:25 PM
#498:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
The cop was getting arrested no matter what.


Why did it take two days

What cause for arrest do they have now that they didnt have then
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HeroDelTiempo17
05/29/20 1:42:22 PM
#499:


wait I thought your argument is that the protestors should threaten white supremacists instead of their local community but now you say it's to do nothing? Weird.

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Nelson_Mandela
05/29/20 1:43:24 PM
#500:


Jakyl25 posted...
Why did it take two days

What cause for arrest do they have now that they didnt have then
Internal investigations always will happen first. You can call that a systemic issue but it certainly isn't a racial one.

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