Current Events > If men have no legal say in if women keeps baby, should they HAVE to pay C.S.?

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Offworlder1 05/28/20 9:20:19 PM #51:	Don't get her pregnant and you don't have to deal with child support, it's that simple. --- "Always two there are, a master and an apprentice" 3DS FC: 1564 - 7512 - 1815 <cite>Offworlder1 posted [p:939859328] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>Don't get her pregnant and you don't have to deal with child support, it's that simple. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Atralis 05/28/20 9:21:00 PM #52:	No one should have to pay for computer science in the long term because the degree generally should pay for itself. <cite>Atralis posted [p:939859363] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>No one should have to pay for computer science in the long term because the degree generally should pay for itself. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BathroomWater 05/28/20 9:21:01 PM #53:	chrono625 posted... then be smarter, dont have a kid if you A. Dont want them and B. Cant afford them. But if they do anyway, you want the child to suffer because of it. Your point here is so completely asinine lmao. --- "I have a basic understanding of economics." -Broseph_Stalin <cite>BathroomWater posted [p:939859364] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>chrono625 posted... </cite> <quote>then be smarter, dont have a kid if you A. Dont want them and B. Cant afford them.</quote> But if they do anyway, you want the child to suffer because of it. Your point here is so completely asinine lmao. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 05/28/20 9:24:30 PM #54:	chrono625 posted... then be smarter, dont have a kid if you A. Dont want them and B. Cant afford them. And if you are responsible for creating a kid you should be financially responsible for it as well --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:939859511] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>chrono625 posted... </cite> <quote>then be smarter, dont have a kid if you A. Dont want them and B. Cant afford them.</quote> And if you are responsible for creating a kid you should be financially responsible for it as well </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chrono625 05/28/20 9:26:35 PM #55:	BathroomWater posted... But if they do anyway, you want the child to suffer because of it. Your point here is so completely asinine lmao. I dont want the child to suffer you moron. i want people to be responsible and not have a child if they dont want one or if they cant give it a proper upbringing. --- https://imgur.com/Rqk1DYV - Super Bowl XXI/XXV/XLII/XLVI Champions - NY Giants Eli Manning SB tracker: 2/2 Superbowls 2/2 SBMVP's <cite>chrono625 posted [p:939859610] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>BathroomWater posted... </cite> <quote>But if they do anyway, you want the child to suffer because of it. Your point here is so completely asinine lmao.</quote> I dont want the child to suffer you moron. i want people to be responsible and not have a child if they dont want one or if they cant give it a proper upbringing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mooreandrew58 05/28/20 9:30:35 PM #56:	I do think it needs to be reworked. There comes a point where the amount of money being paid is unecessary. I find it sad ive seen men refuse promotions or better paying jobs just cause they knew theyd barely realize any more money cause the child support would go up. --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:939859798] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>I do think it needs to be reworked. There comes a point where the amount of money being paid is unecessary. I find it sad ive seen men refuse promotions or better paying jobs just cause they knew theyd barely realize any more money cause the child support would go up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BathroomWater 05/28/20 9:34:04 PM #57:	chrono625 posted... I dont want the child to suffer you moron. i want people to be responsible and not have a child if they dont want one or if they cant give it a proper upbringing. And yet if a woman becomes a single mother without being able to support the child you want no support to be given so what you want leads to the same result. --- "I have a basic understanding of economics." -Broseph_Stalin <cite>BathroomWater posted [p:939859957] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>chrono625 posted... </cite> <quote>I dont want the child to suffer you moron. i want people to be responsible and not have a child if they dont want one or if they cant give it a proper upbringing.</quote> And yet if a woman becomes a single mother without being able to support the child you want no support to be given so what you want leads to the same result. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
onedarksoul 05/28/20 9:48:32 PM #58:	Offworlder1 posted... Don't get her pregnant and you don't have to deal with child support, it's that simple. The real world is not that simple. Everyone in here with a viewpoint like this is operating with blinders on. --- Finish a game? Add it to our list! Beat 1,000 games: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/213-nonstop-gaming-general/78475094 <cite>onedarksoul posted [p:939860664] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>Offworlder1 posted... </cite> <quote>Don't get her pregnant and you don't have to deal with child support, it's that simple.</quote>The real world is not that simple. Everyone in here with a viewpoint like this is operating with blinders on. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 05/28/20 9:48:52 PM #59:	BathroomWater posted... And yet if a woman becomes a single mother without being able to support the child you want no support to be given so what you want leads to the same result. If the mother knew in advance that she wasn't going to recieve any kind of help she might have decided to have an abortion instead of ruining three lives. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:939860684] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>BathroomWater posted... </cite> <quote>And yet if a woman becomes a single mother without being able to support the child you want no support to be given so what you want leads to the same result.</quote>If the mother knew in advance that she wasn't going to recieve any kind of help she might have decided to have an abortion instead of ruining three lives. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BathroomWater 05/28/20 9:51:38 PM #60:	IfGodCouldDie posted... If the mother knew in advance that she wasn't going to recieve any kind of help she might have decided to have an abortion instead of ruining three lives. If you could guarantee that removing child support from the system would result in no more unwanted pregnancies, you might have a point. --- "I have a basic understanding of economics." -Broseph_Stalin <cite>BathroomWater posted [p:939860830] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>IfGodCouldDie posted... </cite> <quote>If the mother knew in advance that she wasn't going to recieve any kind of help she might have decided to have an abortion instead of ruining three lives.</quote> If you could guarantee that removing child support from the system would result in no more unwanted pregnancies, you might have a point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 05/28/20 9:52:39 PM #61:	IfGodCouldDie posted... If the mother knew in advance that she wasn't going to recieve any kind of help she might have decided to have an abortion instead of ruining three lives. An abortion isn't an easy decision for a woman to take. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:939860870] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>IfGodCouldDie posted... </cite> <quote>If the mother knew in advance that she wasn't going to recieve any kind of help she might have decided to have an abortion instead of ruining three lives.</quote> An abortion isn't an easy decision for a woman to take. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_SilverX 05/28/20 9:53:09 PM #62:	Nope, but America and the Dream --- Maketh thy Countries Greateth Again don't compare games to feces -- if you've an opinion worth mentioning, do so civilly <cite>Dark_SilverX posted [p:939860890] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>Nope, but America and the Dream </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 05/28/20 9:58:45 PM #63:	BathroomWater posted... If you could guarantee that removing child support from the system would result in no more unwanted pregnancies, you might have a point. There already is something in place to get rid of unwanted pregnancies, in fact there are two options, abortion and adoption. The biggest problems that actually exists in the case of unwanted pregnancies is the lack of a strong family unit in America and a lack of a strong sense of community in America. If those two problems were addressed a deadbeat dad would be less detrimental to the raising of a child, but unfortunately Americans want to kick their kids out at 18 and no one wants their taxes to go towards actually helping the less fortunate. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:939861157] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>BathroomWater posted... </cite> <quote>If you could guarantee that removing child support from the system would result in no more unwanted pregnancies, you might have a point.</quote>There already is something in place to get rid of unwanted pregnancies, in fact there are two options, abortion and adoption. The biggest problems that actually exists in the case of unwanted pregnancies is the lack of a strong family unit in America and a lack of a strong sense of community in America. If those two problems were addressed a deadbeat dad would be less detrimental to the raising of a child, but unfortunately Americans want to kick their kids out at 18 and no one wants their taxes to go towards actually helping the less fortunate. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tenlaar 05/28/20 10:00:06 PM #64:	If a woman does not want to be a parent, that woman should have the choice of abortion, adoption if both parties agree, or surrendering all rights and responsibilities to the father with a clean break. If a man does not want to be a parent, that man should have the choice of adoption if both parties agree or surrendering all rights and responsibilities to the mother with a clean break. <cite>Tenlaar posted [p:939861213] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>If a woman does not want to be a parent, that woman should have the choice of abortion, adoption if both parties agree, or surrendering all rights and responsibilities to the father with a clean break. If a man does not want to be a parent, that man should have the choice of adoption if both parties agree or surrendering all rights and responsibilities to the mother with a clean break. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AdrianBeterson 05/28/20 10:00:33 PM #65:	--- https://imgur.com/oaIIJxf <cite>AdrianBeterson posted [p:939861235] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dj1200 05/28/20 10:00:51 PM #66:	NEW and EXCITING --- "It was so ridiculous and I have so many feelings about it." -Virtual Energies <cite>dj1200 posted [p:939861247] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>NEW and EXCITING </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 05/28/20 10:00:58 PM #67:	Darmik posted... An abortion isn't an easy decision for a woman to take. I never said it was, but raising a child is not easy either and knowing that you will be forced to do it alone might make you really consider what the best plan for your life would be. Hell even with child support payments raising a child alone would be absolutely difficult. Hell my wife and I have 2 kids and raising them isn't easy. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:939861255] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted... </cite> <quote>An abortion isn't an easy decision for a woman to take.</quote>I never said it was, but raising a child is not easy either and knowing that you will be forced to do it alone might make you really consider what the best plan for your life would be. Hell even with child support payments raising a child alone would be absolutely difficult. Hell my wife and I have 2 kids and raising them isn't easy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 05/28/20 10:01:45 PM #68:	AdrianBeterson posted... Ok, I got a chuckle out of this. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:939861296] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>AdrianBeterson posted... </cite> <quote></quote>Ok, I got a chuckle out of this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Rinku_ 05/28/20 10:05:29 PM #69:	AdrianBeterson posted... People who can't get pregnant have no business trying to restrict the rights of those who can. <cite>_Rinku_ posted [p:939861461] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>AdrianBeterson posted... </cite> <quote></quote>People who can't get pregnant have no business trying to restrict the rights of those who can. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 05/28/20 10:06:10 PM #70:	IfGodCouldDie posted... I never said it was, but raising a child is not easy either and knowing that you will be forced to do it alone might make you really consider what the best plan for your life would be. Hell even with child support payments raising a child alone would be absolutely difficult. Hell my wife and I have 2 kids and raising them isn't easy. That's kind of why child support is a necessity though. When that kid comes into the world they're the thing that matters the most. Not the guy who wants to abandon any sort of responsibility to their child. Saying "You either abort that baby or you get no support whatsoever" isn't a solution. Some women are outright against abortion and that is their right. They're the ones who are growing a new life inside of them. Paying a chunk of their money and doing nothing else is still the easy option for the man to take. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:939861486] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>IfGodCouldDie posted... </cite> <quote>I never said it was, but raising a child is not easy either and knowing that you will be forced to do it alone might make you really consider what the best plan for your life would be. Hell even with child support payments raising a child alone would be absolutely difficult. Hell my wife and I have 2 kids and raising them isn't easy.</quote> That's kind of why child support is a necessity though. When that kid comes into the world they're the thing that matters the most. Not the guy who wants to abandon any sort of responsibility to their child. Saying "You either abort that baby or you get no support whatsoever" isn't a solution. Some women are outright against abortion and that is their right. They're the ones who are growing a new life inside of them. Paying a chunk of their money and doing nothing else is still the easy option for the man to take. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 05/28/20 10:14:07 PM #71:	Darmik posted... That's kind of why child support is a necessity though. When that kid comes into the world they're the thing that matters the most. Not the guy who wants to abandon any sort of responsibility to their child. Saying "You either abort that baby or you get no support whatsoever" isn't a solution. Some women are outright against abortion and that is their right. They're the ones who are growing a new life inside of them. Paying a chunk of their money and doing nothing else is still the easy option for the man to take. You're right, it is their choice to have that baby or not. If they choose to have that baby knowing there will be no support they are well within their right to do so. I am not trying to take that right away from them. The fact of the matter is this, it takes two people to get someone pregnant, only one gets to make the decision regarding the life of that baby, if that is the case then they should be willing to accept 100% responsibility for it as well. I personally have no horse in this race because I have a wonderful wife and two amazing children. I have made my decisions in regards to this topic but I also believe that because one person has 100% control of a given situation they should also be willing to shoulder 100% of the responsibility that decision entails. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:939861809] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted... </cite> <quote>That's kind of why child support is a necessity though. When that kid comes into the world they're the thing that matters the most. Not the guy who wants to abandon any sort of responsibility to their child. Saying "You either abort that baby or you get no support whatsoever" isn't a solution. Some women are outright against abortion and that is their right. They're the ones who are growing a new life inside of them. Paying a chunk of their money and doing nothing else is still the easy option for the man to take.</quote>You're right, it is their choice to have that baby or not. If they choose to have that baby knowing there will be no support they are well within their right to do so. I am not trying to take that right away from them. The fact of the matter is this, it takes two people to get someone pregnant, only one gets to make the decision regarding the life of that baby, if that is the case then they should be willing to accept 100% responsibility for it as well. I personally have no horse in this race because I have a wonderful wife and two amazing children. I have made my decisions in regards to this topic but I also believe that because one person has 100% control of a given situation they should also be willing to shoulder 100% of the responsibility that decision entails. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy 05/28/20 10:17:03 PM #72:	If it can be proven that the woman raped (yes, woman on man rape does happen) a man, or that she baby trapped him, then sure. If he willingly buried it deep, without a care if she gets preg or not, then hell yes you're paying child support. There are also some cases in which I don't support abortion. That is to say, protection wasn't used by either party and a baby just isn't convenient. Going raw was sure convienent tho, huh? I mean, I don't believe it should be illegal, I just don't think it should be done in that case, imo. --- Voted worst user on CE 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, and 2019 Current e-argument streak: 0 wins. 143,849 losses. <cite>Dyinglegacy posted [p:939861933] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>If it can be proven that the woman raped (yes, woman on man rape does happen) a man, or that she baby trapped him, then sure. If he willingly buried it deep, without a care if she gets preg or not, then hell yes you're paying child support. There are also some cases in which I don't support abortion. That is to say, protection wasn't used by either party and a baby just isn't convenient. Going raw was sure convienent tho, huh? I mean, I don't believe it should be illegal, I just don't think it should be done in that case, imo. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 05/28/20 10:19:39 PM #73:	Dyinglegacy posted... If it can be proven that the woman raped (yes, woman on man rape does happen) a man, or that she baby trapped him, then sure. If he willingly buried it deep, without a care if she gets preg or not, then hell yes you're paying child support. There are also some cases in which I don't support abortion. That is to say, protection wasn't used by either party and a baby just isn't convenient. Going raw was sure convienent tho, huh? I mean, I don't believe it should be illegal, I just don't think it should be done in that case, imo. Both parties are responsible for making sure protective sex takes place. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:939862052] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>Dyinglegacy posted... </cite> <quote>If it can be proven that the woman raped (yes, woman on man rape does happen) a man, or that she baby trapped him, then sure. If he willingly buried it deep, without a care if she gets preg or not, then hell yes you're paying child support. There are also some cases in which I don't support abortion. That is to say, protection wasn't used by either party and a baby just isn't convenient. Going raw was sure convienent tho, huh? I mean, I don't believe it should be illegal, I just don't think it should be done in that case, imo.</quote>Both parties are responsible for making sure protective sex takes place. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 05/28/20 10:20:56 PM #74:	GATTJT posted... I feel like men should have that option but they must relinquish all legal claim to the child. If you don't want to pay child support, you can't claim the kid as a dependent, no visitation rights, etc. This --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:939862092] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>GATTJT posted...</cite> <quote>I feel like men should have that option but they must relinquish all legal claim to the child. If you don't want to pay child support, you can't claim the kid as a dependent, no visitation rights, etc. </quote> This</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
inloveanddeath0 05/28/20 10:21:56 PM #75:	Laserion posted... Sounds good. And while it's considered permanent in that it doesn't wear off, it is also reversible most of the time. Snip snap snip snap snip snap --- http://www.last.fm/user/PolarPolaroids <cite>inloveanddeath0 posted [p:939862136] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>Laserion posted... </cite> <quote>Sounds good. And while it's considered permanent in that it doesn't wear off, it is also reversible most of the time.</quote>Snip snap snip snap snip snap </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VTBM 05/28/20 10:36:57 PM #76:	No --- https://imgur.com/e7sCCSb <cite>VTBM posted [p:939862742] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>No </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cleo_II 05/28/20 10:40:33 PM #77:	If the father can just walk away without needing to financially support their child, it will end up just being more of a burden on taxpayers than it already is. Its just not going to happen. If guys dont want kids, then they should protect themselves and try not to stick their dicks in crazy. Its not like women just get away with no consequences of an unwanted pregnancy. Raising a child on your own is no walk in the park. <cite>Cleo_II posted [p:939862882] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>If the father can just walk away without needing to financially support their child, it will end up just being more of a burden on taxpayers than it already is. Its just not going to happen. If guys dont want kids, then they should protect themselves and try not to stick their dicks in crazy. Its not like women just get away with no consequences of an unwanted pregnancy. Raising a child on your own is no walk in the park. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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onedarksoul 05/28/20 10:42:03 PM #79:	Dyinglegacy posted... If it can be proven that the woman raped (yes, woman on man rape does happen) a man, or that she baby trapped him, then sure. That has been proven and judges don't give a fuck Neither do the binary thinkers in this topic --- Finish a game? Add it to our list! Beat 1,000 games: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/213-nonstop-gaming-general/78475094 <cite>onedarksoul posted [p:939862942] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>Dyinglegacy posted... </cite> <quote>If it can be proven that the woman raped (yes, woman on man rape does happen) a man, or that she baby trapped him, then sure.</quote>That has been proven and judges don't give a fuck Neither do the binary thinkers in this topic </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tenlaar 05/28/20 10:42:15 PM #80:	Cleo_II posted... If guys dont want kids, then they should protect themselves and try not to stick their dicks in crazy. You sound like a right winger making an anti-abortion argument. Birth control methods can fail even when used properly, period. <cite>Tenlaar posted [p:939862950] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>Cleo_II posted... </cite> <quote>If guys dont want kids, then they should protect themselves and try not to stick their dicks in crazy. </quote>You sound like a right winger making an anti-abortion argument. Birth control methods can fail even when used properly, period. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cleo_II 05/28/20 10:50:01 PM #81:	Tenlaar posted... You sound like a right winger making an anti-abortion argument. Birth control methods can fail even when used properly, period. Ofc they can. Thats the risk you take when you have sex. Or did you fail sex ed or something? <cite>Cleo_II posted [p:939863296] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>Tenlaar posted... </cite> <quote>You sound like a right winger making an anti-abortion argument. Birth control methods can fail even when used properly, period.</quote>Ofc they can. Thats the risk you take when you have sex. Or did you fail sex ed or something? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tenlaar 05/28/20 10:54:29 PM #82:	Cleo_II posted... Ofc they can. Thats the risk you take when you have sex. Or did you fail sex ed or something? So you're going full on right winger and going with "if you don't want kids then you should just never have sex" as an argument? <cite>Tenlaar posted [p:939863481] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>Cleo_II posted... </cite> <quote>Ofc they can. Thats the risk you take when you have sex. Or did you fail sex ed or something?</quote>So you're going full on right winger and going with "if you don't want kids then you should just never have sex" as an argument? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VVALLBOUNCE 05/28/20 10:57:16 PM #83:	I personally know two deadbeat moms believe that or not.. edit its actually four now that I thought harder. Two of them are drug addicts though. <cite>VVALLBOUNCE posted [p:939863614] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>I personally know two deadbeat moms believe that or not.. edit its actually four now that I thought harder. Two of them are drug addicts though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hello_Hello_Hey 05/28/20 10:57:33 PM #84:	No, they shouldnt --- https://i.redd.it/h7ys2e52hy051.jpg / https://cdn.awwni.me/22gm7.png <cite>Hello_Hello_Hey posted [p:939863633] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>No, they shouldnt </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 05/28/20 11:00:26 PM #85:	Cleo_II posted... If the father can just walk away without needing to financially support their child, it will end up just being more of a burden on taxpayers than it already is. Its just not going to happen. If guys dont want kids, then they should protect themselves and try not to stick their dicks in crazy. Its not like women just get away with no consequences of an unwanted pregnancy. Raising a child on your own is no walk in the park. And a woman has every right not to let a guy fuck her without proper protection. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:939863754] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>Cleo_II posted... </cite> <quote>If the father can just walk away without needing to financially support their child, it will end up just being more of a burden on taxpayers than it already is. Its just not going to happen. If guys dont want kids, then they should protect themselves and try not to stick their dicks in crazy. Its not like women just get away with no consequences of an unwanted pregnancy. Raising a child on your own is no walk in the park.</quote>And a woman has every right not to let a guy fuck her without proper protection. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cleo_II 05/28/20 11:01:02 PM #86:	Tenlaar posted... So you're going full on right winger and going with "if you don't want kids then you should just never have sex" as an argument? Wtf is with this right winger stuff? Lmao, its always funny to see people turn it political if someone doesnt agree with them. If you have sex then you accept the possibility of an unwanted pregnancy and the associated consequences. Its really that simple. Do your best to be careful, but if she gets pregnant anyway then you better be ready to step up financially. The wrap it up comment is because most guys expect the woman to be 100% responsible for birth control and then whine if they have to be responsible for the consequences of an unwanted pregnancy. Its comical. <cite>Cleo_II posted [p:939863779] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>Tenlaar posted... </cite> <quote>So you're going full on right winger and going with "if you don't want kids then you should just never have sex" as an argument?</quote>Wtf is with this right winger stuff? Lmao, its always funny to see people turn it political if someone doesnt agree with them. If you have sex then you accept the possibility of an unwanted pregnancy and the associated consequences. Its really that simple. Do your best to be careful, but if she gets pregnant anyway then you better be ready to step up financially. The wrap it up comment is because most guys expect the woman to be 100% responsible for birth control and then whine if they have to be responsible for the consequences of an unwanted pregnancy. Its comical. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
inloveanddeath0 05/28/20 11:01:39 PM #87:	Someone mentioned wings now I'm hungry --- http://www.last.fm/user/PolarPolaroids <cite>inloveanddeath0 posted [p:939863805] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>Someone mentioned wings now I'm hungry </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VVALLBOUNCE 05/28/20 11:03:05 PM #88:	TheOtherMike posted... Do you think single mothers don't have jobs or something? bro my duplex neighbor is a single mom with two kids who has not worked one day since she moved in there a year and a half ago she looks no older than 30 and at least appears healthy. She smokes cigs and yells at her kids ALL FUCKING DAY. Where her money to smoke 800 cigs a day comes from I do not know, but if I did know, itd probably piss me off. <cite>VVALLBOUNCE posted [p:939863869] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>TheOtherMike posted... </cite> <quote>Do you think single mothers don't have jobs or something?</quote> bro my duplex neighbor is a single mom with two kids who has not worked one day since she moved in there a year and a half ago she looks no older than 30 and at least appears healthy. She smokes cigs and yells at her kids ALL FUCKING DAY. Where her money to smoke 800 cigs a day comes from I do not know, but if I did know, itd probably piss me off. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
onedarksoul 05/28/20 11:03:43 PM #89:	Cleo_II posted... Do your best to be careful, but if she gets pregnant anyway then you better be ready to step up financially. Men deserve more legal protections than this. --- Finish a game? Add it to our list! Beat 1,000 games: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/213-nonstop-gaming-general/78475094 <cite>onedarksoul posted [p:939863893] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>Cleo_II posted... </cite> <quote>Do your best to be careful, but if she gets pregnant anyway then you better be ready to step up financially. </quote>Men deserve more legal protections than this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VVALLBOUNCE 05/28/20 11:05:45 PM #90:	It should be universally acknowledged and accepted by now that the system is stacked against the man. Yet, some people dont get it. Like this girl on facebook one time..I saw her post a status about how all unwanted pregnancies are 100 percent the mans fault..there are educated people who believe this..unless a man lies and says hes snipped when not or says hes got one on but didnt put any protection on and the girl believes him without verification, it is always 50/50 other than certain obvious horrible scenarios <cite>VVALLBOUNCE posted [p:939863974] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>It should be universally acknowledged and accepted by now that the system is stacked against the man. Yet, some people dont get it. Like this girl on facebook one time..I saw her post a status about how all unwanted pregnancies are 100 percent the mans fault..there are educated people who believe this..unless a man lies and says hes snipped when not or says hes got one on but didnt put any protection on and the girl believes him without verification, it is always 50/50 other than certain obvious horrible scenarios </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cleo_II 05/28/20 11:07:16 PM #91:	onedarksoul posted... Men deserve more legal protections than this. Nah, not really. <cite>Cleo_II posted [p:939864049] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>onedarksoul posted... </cite> <quote>Men deserve more legal protections than this.</quote>Nah, not really. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tenlaar 05/28/20 11:08:14 PM #92:	Cleo_II posted... Wtf is with this right winger stuff? Lmao, its always funny to see people turn it political if someone doesnt agree with them. If you have sex then you accept the possibility of an unwanted pregnancy and the associated consequences. Its really that simple. Do your best to be careful, but if she gets pregnant anyway then you better be ready to step up financially. The wrap it up comment is because most guys expect the woman to be 100% responsible for birth control and then whine if they have to be responsible for the consequences of an unwanted pregnancy. Its comical. What's "with it" is that you're repeating the most common right wing anti-abortion argument, which is "if you don't want babies then just keep your legs closed." It's a bad argument when they use it and it's a bad one when you use it too. I don't consider "women have to accept the possibility of an unwanted pregnancy and the associated consequences if they have sex so if it happens she'd better just be ready to step up" to be a valid argument in the year 2020, and the same argument is not more valid when applied to men. <cite>Tenlaar posted [p:939864088] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote><quote>Cleo_II posted... </cite> Wtf is with this right winger stuff? Lmao, its always funny to see people turn it political if someone doesnt agree with them. If you have sex then you accept the possibility of an unwanted pregnancy and the associated consequences. Its really that simple. Do your best to be careful, but if she gets pregnant anyway then you better be ready to step up financially. The wrap it up comment is because most guys expect the woman to be 100% responsible for birth control and then whine if they have to be responsible for the consequences of an unwanted pregnancy. Its comical.</quote>What's "with it" is that you're repeating the most common right wing anti-abortion argument, which is "if you don't want babies then just keep your legs closed." It's a bad argument when they use it and it's a bad one when you use it too. I don't consider "women have to accept the possibility of an unwanted pregnancy and the associated consequences if they have sex so if it happens she'd better just be ready to step up" to be a valid argument in the year 2020, and the same argument is not more valid when applied to men. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
onedarksoul 05/28/20 11:08:18 PM #93:	Thats your opinion and you are welcome to it. But its wrong. --- Finish a game? Add it to our list! Beat 1,000 games: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/213-nonstop-gaming-general/78475094 <cite>onedarksoul posted [p:939864093] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>Thats your opinion and you are welcome to it. But its wrong. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dj1200 05/28/20 11:10:15 PM #94:	I had two kids and I most likely would have opted for abortions but the girls had the kids and I dont think I should have a choice about child support. I mean, theyre my kids. --- "It was so ridiculous and I have so many feelings about it." -Virtual Energies <cite>dj1200 posted [p:939864185] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>I had two kids and I most likely would have opted for abortions but the girls had the kids and I dont think I should have a choice about child support. I mean, theyre my kids. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
onedarksoul 05/28/20 11:12:01 PM #95:	Thinking a bit more on this, every woman I've talked to about this who agreed with men having a choice to opt out was either a) decently well off or more or b) independence minded. The women who don't tend to need the money a whole lot more, or aren't as independence minded. --- Finish a game? Add it to our list! Beat 1,000 games: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/213-nonstop-gaming-general/78475094 <cite>onedarksoul posted [p:939864278] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>Thinking a bit more on this, every woman I've talked to about this who agreed with men having a choice to opt out was either a) decently well off or more or b) independence minded. The women who don't tend to need the money a whole lot more, or aren't as independence minded. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 05/28/20 11:14:40 PM #96:	onedarksoul posted... Men deserve more legal protections than this. Why? --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:939864396] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>onedarksoul posted... </cite> <quote>Men deserve more legal protections than this.</quote> Why? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VVALLBOUNCE 05/28/20 11:15:31 PM #97:	Tenlaar posted... What's "with it" is that you're repeating the most common right wing anti-abortion argument, which is "if you don't want babies then just keep your legs closed." It's a bad argument when they use it and it's a bad one when you use it too. I don't consider "women have to accept the possibility of an unwanted pregnancy and the associated consequences if they have sex so if it happens she'd better just be ready to step up" to be a valid argument in the year 2020, and the same argument is not more valid when applied to men. Yep. That other poster will dance around what he really wants to say until he has no choice but to say it. That, of course, being that men are the only ones with any sort of requirement to step up for a child. Its hilarious how society assumes all mothers are great, loving caregivers and all fathers came in just to bust a nut then ran away <cite>VVALLBOUNCE posted [p:939864425] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>Tenlaar posted... </cite> <quote>What's "with it" is that you're repeating the most common right wing anti-abortion argument, which is "if you don't want babies then just keep your legs closed." It's a bad argument when they use it and it's a bad one when you use it too. I don't consider "women have to accept the possibility of an unwanted pregnancy and the associated consequences if they have sex so if it happens she'd better just be ready to step up" to be a valid argument in the year 2020, and the same argument is not more valid when applied to men.</quote> Yep. That other poster will dance around what he really wants to say until he has no choice but to say it. That, of course, being that men are the only ones with any sort of requirement to step up for a child. Its hilarious how society assumes all mothers are great, loving caregivers and all fathers came in just to bust a nut then ran away </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
haloiscoolisbak 05/28/20 11:15:56 PM #98:	if i used protection but for whatever reason the girl still ended up pregnant(broken condom/issue with condom) and she didn't want to abort - fuck that i am 100% not paying a cent. People acting like sex is only something men want or something ITT and women just 'give it to them' out of their kindness of their hearts as a favour and shit If I didn't use a condom or made no effort to try contraception then sure i should be liable to pay. i want to have sex - i don't want to have kids ever. and i shouldn't have to pay $$ for that very healthy, normal viewpoint based on some bad luck. people say are abortions are traumatic? yeah so are situations where kid's dad(me in that case) wants nothing to do with it. --- Started from the bottom now we here <cite>haloiscoolisbak posted [p:939864440] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>if i used protection but for whatever reason the girl still ended up pregnant(broken condom/issue with condom) and she didn't want to abort - fuck that i am 100% not paying a cent. People acting like sex is only something men want or something ITT and women just 'give it to them' out of their kindness of their hearts as a favour and shit If I didn't use a condom or made no effort to try contraception then sure i should be liable to pay. i want to have sex - i don't want to have kids ever. and i shouldn't have to pay $$ for that very healthy, normal viewpoint based on some bad luck. people say are abortions are traumatic? yeah so are situations where kid's dad(me in that case) wants nothing to do with it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 05/28/20 11:17:32 PM #99:	VVALLBOUNCE posted... Yep. That other poster will dance around what he really wants to say until he has no choice but to say it. That, of course, being that men are the only ones with any sort of requirement to step up for a child. Its hilarious how society assumes all mothers are great, loving caregivers and all fathers came in just to bust a nut then ran away Err what do you think the single mothers are doing exactly? What is this argument supposed to be? Some Mothers are bad so men shouldn't have to pay child support? What? haloiscoolisbak posted... if i used protection but for whatever reason the girl still ended up pregnant(broken condom/issue with condom) and she didn't want to abort - fuck that i am 100% not paying a cent. People acting like sex is only something men want or something ITT and women just 'give it to them' out of their kindness of their hearts as a favour and shit If I didn't use a condom or made no effort to try contraception then sure i should be liable to pay. i want to have sex - i don't want to have kids ever. and i shouldn't have to pay $$ for that very healthy, normal viewpoint Take sexual protection very seriously with your partner or get the snip to remove the possibility. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:939864504] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>VVALLBOUNCE posted... </cite> <quote>Yep. That other poster will dance around what he really wants to say until he has no choice but to say it. That, of course, being that men are the only ones with any sort of requirement to step up for a child. Its hilarious how society assumes all mothers are great, loving caregivers and all fathers came in just to bust a nut then ran away</quote> Err what do you think the single mothers are doing exactly? What is this argument supposed to be? Some Mothers are bad so men shouldn't have to pay child support? What? haloiscoolisbak posted... </cite> <quote>if i used protection but for whatever reason the girl still ended up pregnant(broken condom/issue with condom) and she didn't want to abort - fuck that i am 100% not paying a cent. People acting like sex is only something men want or something ITT and women just 'give it to them' out of their kindness of their hearts as a favour and shit If I didn't use a condom or made no effort to try contraception then sure i should be liable to pay. i want to have sex - i don't want to have kids ever. and i shouldn't have to pay $$ for that very healthy, normal viewpoint</quote> Take sexual protection very seriously with your partner or get the snip to remove the possibility. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
haloiscoolisbak 05/28/20 11:19:48 PM #100:	Darmik posted... Err what do you think the single mothers are doing exactly? What is this argument supposed to be? Some Mothers are bad so men shouldn't have to pay child support? What? Take sexual protection very seriously with your partner or get the snip to remove the possibility. mate girls can get pregnant off precum. you can use a condom, it can maybe slide down or break or anything like that and you can still pull out(or not even finish at all) but a bit of liquid with sperm in it might land in there I know I'm talking like 1-2% scenarios here but it's still a chance and I've lost sleep over it once when dating this heaps religious girl who was anti-abortion(but had no issues with sex before marriage) --- Started from the bottom now we here <cite>haloiscoolisbak posted [p:939864605] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted... </cite> <quote>Err what do you think the single mothers are doing exactly? What is this argument supposed to be? Some Mothers are bad so men shouldn't have to pay child support? What? Take sexual protection very seriously with your partner or get the snip to remove the possibility.</quote> mate girls can get pregnant off precum. you can use a condom, it can maybe slide down or break or anything like that and you can still pull out(or not even finish at all) but a bit of liquid with sperm in it might land in there I know I'm talking like 1-2% scenarios here but it's still a chance and I've lost sleep over it once when dating this heaps religious girl who was anti-abortion(but had no issues with sex before marriage) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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