Topic List | |
---|---|
Anagram 06/10/20 6:39:38 PM #51: |
Leonhart4 posted...
Yeah, but only Phoenix Wright is defending an orca. It's not like every attorney out there is doing all the stuff he's doing.You know what, I have to concede this, but only because I just remembered the pirate girl citing Phoenix cross-examining a parrot as something famous she's heard of. --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Team Rocket Elite 06/10/20 6:45:03 PM #52: |
That post reminded me to look up a case I heard about a while back where a parrot was being considered to testify:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40665520 "The parrot, an African Grey named Bud, was not used in the court proceedings." Too bad. --- My bracket looked like random picks compared to his. Congrats to azuarc for winning the GotD 2020 Guru Contest! ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Anagram 06/10/20 10:37:55 PM #53: |
Team Rocket Elite posted...
That post reminded me to look up a case I heard about a while back where a parrot was being considered to testify:Honestly disappointing. --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Raka_Putra 06/11/20 12:10:07 AM #54: |
I hope that didn't let the real murderer to get away.
--- Into the woods, but mind the past... Into the woods, but mind the future! ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Anagram 06/11/20 12:18:12 PM #55: |
--- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
LeonhartFour 06/11/20 12:23:48 PM #56: |
Yeah, I'm not a fan of Nahyuta. He has his moments, but by and large, he's not much fun as an opponent.
--- ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
XIII_rocks 06/11/20 12:28:48 PM #57: |
... Copied to Clipboard!
|
ZeldaTPLink 06/11/20 12:30:54 PM #58: |
I think he works better than the likes of Klavier because he is at least antagonistic. But he doesn't have much more depth than Franziska, tbh.
... Copied to Clipboard!
|
hombad46 06/11/20 12:51:47 PM #59: |
Yeah, I like SoJ, but Nahyuta is definitely on the weaker end of the prosecutor scale
--- "That's Engarde hairflip metal detector tier btw" -XIII_rocks ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
MrSmartGuy 06/11/20 1:03:25 PM #60: |
Remember how I said to enjoy your time with Blackquill while it lasts? Nahyuta is why.
--- Xbox GT/PSN name/Nintendo ID: TatteredUniform http://www.scuffletown.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/tRBE1.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Anagram 06/11/20 1:30:37 PM #61: |
--- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
LeonhartFour 06/11/20 1:33:19 PM #62: |
The Bonny/Betty transformation is one of my favorite parts of the case. It's really fun. Their shared animations are good.
--- ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
hombad46 06/11/20 1:34:18 PM #63: |
Yeah they're some of my favorite witnesses. They're just fun.
--- "That's Engarde hairflip metal detector tier btw" -XIII_rocks ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
ZeldaTPLink 06/11/20 1:35:33 PM #64: |
Yeah the scene where the frist two appear together for the first time is pretty cool.
... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Raka_Putra 06/11/20 2:18:31 PM #65: |
I'd rather fight Payne in court than Nahyuta, TBQH.
--- Into the woods, but mind the past... Into the woods, but mind the future! ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Anagram 06/11/20 2:29:22 PM #66: |
It took me until just now to question why there are even prosecutors in a country where all cases are handled by a priestess asking ghosts.
--- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Leonhart4 06/11/20 2:31:58 PM #67: |
Prosecutors do more than just argue the case in court.
--- ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Anagram 06/11/20 2:35:30 PM #68: |
LeonhartFour posted...
The Bonny/Betty transformation is one of my favorite parts of the case. It's really fun. Their shared animations are good.I do agree the animations are fun. Raka_Putra posted... I'd rather fight Payne in court than Nahyuta, TBQH.I'll talk about my impressions of him after this case. Leonhart4 posted... Prosecutors do more than just argue the case in court.Yeah, but why? If the only thing that matters is asking the ghost who killed him, why bother? --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
LeonhartFour 06/11/20 2:49:37 PM #69: |
To determine the severity of the charge and stuff, I guess
or for the rare occasions that it isn't about someone dying, I suppose --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Anagram 06/11/20 3:45:16 PM #70: |
You know what this case reminds me of? 4-3, and not just because of the overuse of videos and complete lapses in logic. I'm talking about how the killer in that case, whatever his name was, was just sort of an unpleasant jerk, which made the case less fun. I guess it makes sense, but eh. Both the killer and the prosecutor are just kind of boring jerks. Holding a grudge for thirteen years to frame the granddaughter of the man you hate after he dies is not the dumbest motive for a killer in the series, but it's pretty bad, and Reus doesn't even have a particularly good breakdown. Trying to integrate Trucy more into the story is good, in AA5 she was just there and did nothing of importance (same with Athena so far, but I assume she'll be more important later), but man, like I said before, this series really assumes people care about stage magic of all things, probably because that makes for easy writing in mystery stories. To be clear, this case does have some strengths, and it's not really bad, but it has a lot in common with the series' worst cases. Nahyuta is not off to a good start, and everyone has said he's a weak prosecutor. Bit of a shame, that. He also has kind of boring animations compared to the previous prosecutors? He doesn't even have a good 'surprised' reaction, like when Edgeworth glowers or Godot spits out coffee, he just pulls off his beads and smashes his desk. I guess they did set up his mysterious connection to Apollo, but it's going to have to have some amazing payoff later on. You know what, I'll just say it: of the three main characters, Apollo is easily the most boring. Athena is the most pointless, and I'm not even sure there's a reason for Phoenix to still be around when his arc seems to have finished in the third game, but if Phoenix is Snake or Dante, Apollo doesn't even reach the lofty heights of Raiden or Nero. I assume Nahyuta's connection to Apollo will involve Apollo's backstory somehow, they knew each other as kids or something, I don't know, but trying to be interesting by attaching yourself to an established character only works if it's really well-written, like Godot, and I don't get the impression that this game will be as well-written as AA3. I still enjoyed the case, though. We'll see how Nahyuta goes from here. --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Leonhart4 06/11/20 3:48:52 PM #71: |
I thought 6-2 was almost an apology for 4-3 (and for how poorly Trucy was used in DD). Instead of refusing to help Apollo because you can't reveal a magician's secrets, she readily helps. And her testimony is fantastic.
Also the Mr. Reus theme is excellent. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Sceptilesolar 06/11/20 3:48:58 PM #72: |
Anagram posted...
Reus doesn't even have a particularly good breakdown Aw, I like his breakdown. The rest of what you say is basically true though. --- Just killing time until the world ends. ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Anagram 06/11/20 3:52:56 PM #73: |
Leonhart4 posted...
I thought 6-2 was almost an apology for 4-3 (and for how poorly Trucy was used in DD). Instead of refusing to help Apollo because you can't reveal a magician's secrets, she readily helps. And her testimony is fantastic.I forgot to mention the music, my bad. 6-2 is definitely better than 4-3, you're correct in that it feels like 4-3 done more right, but still not really great. I'm debating where to put it in my list of episodes. --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Leonhart4 06/11/20 3:54:05 PM #74: |
Oh, it's firmly a mid-tier case, maybe even the lower half of the middle tier, but that's a huge improvement over "worst case in the series."
--- ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Anagram 06/11/20 4:01:55 PM #75: |
Leonhart4 posted...
Oh, it's firmly a mid-tier case, maybe even the lower half of the middle tier, but that's a huge improvement over "worst case in the series."Yeah, this is a good way to put it, I'll agree to this. --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
MrSmartGuy 06/11/20 4:22:51 PM #76: |
Wow, Apollo is probably my favorite protagonist in all of video games. I will have none of this slander.
--- Xbox GT/PSN name/Nintendo ID: TatteredUniform http://www.scuffletown.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/tRBE1.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
XIII_rocks 06/11/20 6:26:16 PM #77: |
I have to admit I really like revisualisation in general
Nice way to put the button on each case imo --- Not to be confused with XIII_stones. https://imgur.com/agodP3r ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
LordoftheMorons 06/11/20 6:30:00 PM #78: |
Anagram posted...
In AA5, this little "chain of logic" thing you do at the end of each trial at least required some thought. This one is just testing to see if you paid attention to the most basic facts of the case, it's very disappointing.I was gonna make a spoiler-barred joke here but decided against it, just in case I'm sure everyone can guess what it was anyway! --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
ZeldaTPLink 06/11/20 6:52:01 PM #79: |
Anagram posted...
In AA5, this little "chain of logic" thing you do at the end of each trial at least required some thought. This one is just testing to see if you paid attention to the most basic facts of the case, it's very disappointing. Be careful what you ask for, you may end up getting it! ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
ZeldaTPLink 06/11/20 6:58:38 PM #80: |
LordoftheMorons posted...
I was gonna make a spoiler-barred joke here but decided against it, just in case Oops, we had the same idea. Don't read the spoiler Anagram. ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
LeonhartFour 06/11/20 6:59:16 PM #81: |
just remove the spoiler
--- ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
ZeldaTPLink 06/11/20 6:59:53 PM #82: |
Also I agree Reus is lame. For me the issue is that he worked much better as a TV businessman than as a magician, and he lost a bit of his swag when he started being all serious and mysterious and doing magic tricks on stand.
I love Trucy here, though. This is the first time she ever breaks character in the series. ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
hombad46 06/11/20 7:01:31 PM #83: |
I kinda like Reus, but mostly because I'm totally on his side as far as "screw the Gramaryes"
--- "That's Engarde hairflip metal detector tier btw" -XIII_rocks ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Raka_Putra 06/11/20 11:53:47 PM #84: |
I do appreciate how his TV guy outfit does double duty as a magician's costume. Neato.
--- Into the woods, but mind the past... Into the woods, but mind the future! ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Anagram 06/12/20 3:49:22 PM #85: |
Bump for later
--- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Anagram 06/14/20 1:30:02 AM #86: |
--- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Raka_Putra 06/14/20 3:12:18 AM #87: |
Anagram posted...
Datz Are'balYeah, now DATZ Are'bal! --- Into the woods, but mind the past... Into the woods, but mind the future! ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
ZeldaTPLink 06/14/20 7:06:32 AM #88: |
We have confirmation now that Phoenix doesn't speak Khurai'nese, which means everyone else is speaking English. See, here's the thing. It's actually plausible that a tour guide, judge, and high-ranking members of royalty would all have learned English, and so would be able to communicate with Phoenix. But to suggest that they speak Japanese is insane, so this is like the only case of the "Phoenix is from LA" situation actually making more sense than the original. How do you know Japanese Phoenix doesn't just speak English too? ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
ZeldaTPLink 06/14/20 7:08:07 AM #89: |
I kind of hate how they thought Maya being the defendant AGAIN was somehow clever. 4 times? Really?
And it reduces the amount of investigating with Maya in a game that was advertised as having Maya in it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Leonhart4 06/14/20 8:50:07 AM #90: |
1-1 is easily Phoenix's easiest case! He solves the whole thing in 30 minutes!
People might know of Misty Fey, but that doesn't mean they know who Maya is (see 3-5). She might not be telling people her last name is Fey either. Maya and Ema haven't met in a game, but I mean, there was a 7-year gap where we've seen nothing. It's possible they met at some point. But Phoenix/Rayfa is a surprisingly good investigation team. That's one of the highlights of the case for me. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
hombad46 06/14/20 8:52:04 AM #91: |
Leonhart4 posted...
1-1 is easily Phoenix's easiest case! He solves the whole thing in 30 minutes! I dunno, 2-1 was so easy he solved the whole thing while he had amnesia. Imagine how much faster he would've solved it if he hadn't been hit on the head --- "That's Engarde hairflip metal detector tier btw" -XIII_rocks ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Raka_Putra 06/14/20 8:55:58 AM #92: |
I like Rayfa enough when she's not being intentionally obnoxious.
--- Into the woods, but mind the past... Into the woods, but mind the future! ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Leonhart4 06/14/20 8:56:02 AM #93: |
Yeah but the fact that he did have to solve it with amnesia means it can't be an easier job than 1-1
--- ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Leonhart4 06/14/20 9:18:50 AM #94: |
Also, Layton/AA would suggest that Japanese Phoenix does indeed know English! Maya, too.
(It's probably not canon, I know) --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
TheOrgyPorgy 06/14/20 10:10:25 AM #95: |
i'm okay with AA4-6 not being canon
--- Radiohead ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Leonhart4 06/14/20 10:19:50 AM #96: |
TheOrgyPorgy posted...
i'm okay with AA4-6 not being canon Nah, they're definitely canon! Capcom had their chance to retcon AJ with AA5 and didn't. Layton/PW is the game that's probably not canon. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
ZeldaTPLink 06/14/20 10:29:14 AM #97: |
Capcaom didn't retcon AJ in AA5 but pretended a lot of thigns from it didn't exist.
Then remembered again in AA6. Things work great when you can just be proud of the story so far and build from it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Anagram 06/14/20 11:46:05 AM #98: |
Raka_Putra posted...
Yeah, now DATZ Are'bal!These puns are among the lamest in the series yet. ZeldaTPLink posted... How do you know Japanese Phoenix doesn't just speak English too? Leonhart4 posted... Also, Layton/AA would suggest that Japanese Phoenix does indeed know English! Maya, too.I'll admit I actually didn't consider this. Raka_Putra posted... I like Rayfa enough when she's not being intentionally obnoxious.I don't want to make a new teenage girl sidekick list until I'm done with the game, but that'll be a category I rank, don't worry. Leonhart4 posted... 1-1 is easily Phoenix's easiest case! He solves the whole thing in 30 minutes!1-1 might be it, though the fact that it was his first case might be a strike against it. Maya was involved in a gigantic trial in 3-5 where her spirit channeling powers were the entire basis for everything, where a famous author/spirit channeler died and a lawyer bled to death! I forgot to mention that I enjoyed Ema complaining that she missed the previous game. --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Raka_Putra 06/14/20 12:01:35 PM #99: |
I think I enjoy Ema more with each game she's in.
--- Into the woods, but mind the past... Into the woods, but mind the future! ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Leonhart4 06/14/20 12:08:22 PM #100: |
It was a big case in Japanifornia but it doesn't mean the average Khura'inese person knows her face or her name, especially nearly a decade later.
--- ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Topic List |