Current Events > I don't understand... Why do people hate landlords and paying rent?

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I've read some argue that landlords shouldn't make any profit and should rent out at the cost of the mortgage. But when you rent, you have no responsibility to the property. If something breaks, landlord takes care of it. In addition, you have the freedom to move out whenever you want vs having to sell the property. So shouldn't you be expected to pay more for this?


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Because housing is a human right

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Landlord bad

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Butterfiles posted...

Because housing is a human right

I don't think it's a right under any government... Or are you saying it should be a right? And if so, what if you don't want the basic house but want a nicer house?

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people that complain about having to pay rent are the same kind of people as those who complain about "extraction of surplus labor" in the workplace

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There are homeless shelters and social workers working to house people in general all the time.

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Some landlords are ok others dont do anything

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In my experience, I've had too many landlords who took their title literally. "Fuck privacy, I'll show up unannounced to do random shit you didnt ask me to do."
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Entitlement

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$50 an hour

Abolish rent

Free college

Just let me spend my whole life in college and accomplish nothing

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My apartment complex is 1400 a month, times that by 200 residents that's almost $280000 a month in revenue.

I do not feel bad if a pandemic happens and people cannot pay rent.

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The rent in my area rose 33% over 5 years. There wasn't any real reason for it: no new taxes, no big development, no major influx of new residents - but the company in charge of the property wanted to bleed out as much money as they could. Most people are lucky to get a 3% raise a year to keep up with inflation, that would still only cover HALF the increase in rent, proportionally.

And, no, you shouldn't be expected to pay a premium for land that you don't even own.

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It's America it suppose to be FREE COUNTRY

NO NEED TO PAY BILL
NO NEED TO PAY RENT
NO NEED TO PAY DEBT
NO NEED TO PAY HEALTHCARE

EVERYTHING SHOULD BE FREE IN LAND OF FREEDOM AND HUMAN RIGHTS
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During the pandemic, the general argument is who has more to lose. A landlord, at worse, may lose an investment property to a bank. A tenant loses their home. In a pandemic situation like this, people will probably side with the tenant since they have more to lose.

And I say this as a landlord myself.

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What other people said. A lot of landlords get really greedy. They raise the rent but dont provide anything more for that if they did anything to begin with.

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You're basically paying someone for a service but for some reason they have all the advantages and don't actually do anything. Also if you can't afford the service you're basically out in the wilderness, but unlike the actual wilderness, you can't go anywhere or do anything without civilization's permission, even if the point of civilization is to not be in the wilderness.

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People hate the IRS and still pay taxes.

Just because you don't love something doesn't mean you want it completely abolished. There's more nuance than bootlicker vs free everything

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hyperpowder posted...

My apartment complex is 1400 a month, times that by 200 residents that's almost $280000 a month in revenue.

I do not feel bad if a pandemic happens and people cannot pay rent.

yes because that's all net profit going to one single person

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TheMikh posted...

people that complain about having to pay rent are the same kind of people as those who complain about "extraction of surplus labor" in the workplace

lol

if you're going to fear-monger you should at least try to get the terminology right

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Zanzenburger posted...

During the pandemic, the general argument is who has more to lose. A landlord, at worse, may lose an investment property to a bank. A tenant loses their home. In a pandemic situation like this, people will probably side with the tenant since they have more to lose.

And I say this as a landlord myself.

Siding with the tenant makes no sense either, because tenants will lose a place to live either way. The banks sure as hell aren't going to let people live rent free in their newly acquired property.

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

You're basically paying someone for a service but for some reason they have all the advantages and don't actually do anything. Also if you can't afford the service you're basically out in the wilderness, but unlike the actual wilderness, you can't go anywhere or do anything without civilization's permission, even if the point of civilization is to not be in the wilderness.

also, it's not a service. landlords just own the building

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username checks out

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anyway TC, it's not that we hate landlords. it's that we recognize the position as an inherently exploitative one

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Zanzenburger posted...

During the pandemic, the general argument is who has more to lose. A landlord, at worse, may lose an investment property to a bank. A tenant loses their home. In a pandemic situation like this, people will probably side with the tenant since they have more to lose.

And I say this as a landlord myself.

Idk, tenents can always find someplace else to live. But the months of unpaid rent, eviction/court cost, maintenance fees and losing your investment property or being forced to sell it at a loss sucks alot more in my opinion.

Also it's not, and never was their home to lose....

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cause all they do is own property
like big fucking deal
bet they can't even make a salad

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Prismsblade posted...

Idk, tenents can always find someplace else to live. But the months of unpaid rent, eviction/court cost, maintenance fees and losing your investment property or being forced to sell it at a loss sucks alot more in my opinion.

Also it's not, and never was their home to lose....

Maybe they don't own the "house", but by all legal rights, its their "home".

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averagejoel posted...

lol

if you're going to fear-monger you should at least try to get the terminology right

you're speaking to a young libertarian landlord

Platoe posted...

you're speaking to a young libertarian landlord

That would be just awful

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because of various things like cOmMuNiSm because that's very bad and also mArXiSm because super-also really bad

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Platoe posted...

young libertarian landlord

gawd damnit. he has the power to kick us out.
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TheMikh posted...

people that complain about having to pay rent are the same kind of people as those who complain about "extraction of surplus labor" in the workplace

Why the fuck would anyone complain about having to pay for being allowed to live in a structure that was built and is maintained for them and has enough amenities in it to make their lives relatively comfortable. Talk about leeches.

Should food be a human right, how about travel? I am not asking you personally, I am just surprised at what is happening and asking where it ends.

Butterfiles posted...

Because housing is a human right

Not how rights work. Rights are protections from government, not guarantees of free stuff.


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Cause they dont like paying rent, duh. I get it, paying bills does suck.

That said, cry moar and go fuck yourself

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Butterfiles posted...

Because housing is a human right

Nope

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toomanymonikers posted...

Should food be a human right

Yes

toomanymonikers posted...

how about travel?

Kind of? We should invest more into public transportation; many people can't afford cars and that essentially cuts them off from any upward mobility in society.

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I can certainly see some of the hate for landlords pushing for evictions during this pandemic. I'm sure there are some tenants taking advantage, but there's kind of a pandemic going on. Nobody, including the landlords, should have to worry about losing their homes right now

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Because you dont really have a choice. You can take your chances trying to survive in the wild, but hunting and fishing without a license is illegal, lol
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I had a landlord who used to come over and crash on the couch in the middle of the night, yap at us about his family problems, leave me threatening messages about throwing out my property if i didn't adjust my payment plan, and sarcastically laugh and make dirty faces at us.

that's why

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My landlord raised rent to pay for heating used on the radiators.

A year later they turned the heating off and gave us electric heaters, and strangely the rent didn't go back down! Funny that.

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PatrickMahomes posted...

yes because that's all net profit going to one single person

You really think an apartments running cost is even half that each month?

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Cause people expect landlords to magically fix all their problems in the house instantly. Which is pretty stupid. Though there are also a ton of shitty landlords too. Also evicting people during a pandemic is pretty shitty.

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hyperpowder posted...

You really think an apartments running cost is even half that each month?

You realize an apartment complex can have multiple people as investors right? All those people have homes and mouths to feed too..

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Veggeta X posted...

There are homeless shelters and social workers working to house people in general all the time.

Have you ever stayed at a homeless shelter?

TheMikh posted...

people that complain about having to pay rent are the same kind of people as those who complain about "extraction of surplus labor" in the workplace

People with a conscience, in other words?

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ConfessPlease posted...

You realize an apartment complex can have multiple people as investors right? All those people have homes and mouths to feed too..

that's irrelevant to the point being made. stay on topic.

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because renting is awful, doesn't help that a lot of landlords are terrible. I've only rented 3 places and 2 of them had shit ass landlords

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Shablagoo posted...

Veggeta X posted...

There are homeless shelters and social workers working to house people in general all the time.

Have you ever stayed at a homeless shelter?

Its free. You get what you pay for. If you pay 0, you aint gonna be staying at some upscale pad
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WaterLink posted...

Its free. You get what you pay for. If you pay 0, you aint gonna be staying at some upscale pad

It costs much more than you seem to believe to stay at a homeless shelter. I paid far more dearly in my time there than when I stayed at my sisters ritzy condo.

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