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papercup 09/21/20 10:21:24 AM #1: |
https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/09/21/welcoming-bethesda-to-the-xbox-family/
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ParanoidObsessive 09/21/20 10:26:37 AM #2: |
Considering how shit Bethesda's been lately and how public opinion has been turning against it, Microsoft may have just bought themselves a hand grenade.
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likehelly 09/21/20 10:43:55 AM #3: |
xbox always wins baybeeeeee
ParanoidObsessive posted... Considering how shit Bethesda's been lately and how public opinion has been turning against it, Microsoft may have just bought themselves a hand grenade.what about id and doom? because they also got them. they got every developer under zenimax, because they bought zenimax. not to mention you know for a fact that when a new TES game gets released, every single person collectively forgets about all the dumb shit bethesda did prior. except now, they shouldn't be doing any dumb shit, because this also means the disgusting zenimax board of directors should be gone. --- // / ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Judgmenl 09/21/20 10:51:06 AM #4: |
That must be great for Bethesda.
Probably not great for people who like Bethesda's games. --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Red_Frog 09/21/20 10:58:06 AM #5: |
Talk about bold moves. I know the time leading up to new console launches is usually filled with some interesting announcements, but I really wasn't expecting anything of that magnitude.
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BUMPED2002 09/21/20 11:38:27 AM #6: |
They just one upped Sony!
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Mead 09/21/20 11:55:14 AM #7: |
Wow. Never would have expected this.
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CarefreeDude 09/21/20 12:02:58 PM #8: |
I'd rather microsoft buy it than sony. Could you imagine no more elder scrolls on PC?
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ForteEXE3850 09/21/20 12:16:15 PM #9: |
I'm not in favor if companies owning tons of 3rd parties, but Bethesda's current management was obviously in shambles, executives who just so badly wanted to be EA while their development teams were told to use the same outdated engine to cut time and costs.
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adjl 09/21/20 12:32:46 PM #10: |
likehelly posted...
except now, they shouldn't be doing any dumb s***, because this also means the disgusting zenimax board of directors should be gone. One can hope. As much as exclusivity deals are generally bad for consumers, first- and second-party exclusives actually tend to be pretty good, since the platform owner is relying on them to convince people to buy their console and therefore tends to put more emphasis on making good games than on squeezing every penny they can get out of each release. A lot of Bethesda's recent bad PR has been a consequence of churning out their usual bug-laden messes, but without the decent games that are usually buried amidst those bugs because they were just trying to make cheap, heavily-monetized cash-ins. Get rid of that pressure to sacrifice quality for monetization, and maybe we'll see a return to the usual bug-laden messes that are still fun once some amateur fixes all of their problems for free three days after launch. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 09/21/20 1:44:35 PM #13: |
PyroBlade1985 posted...
Does this mean all future TES, Fallout and Doom are X-box exclusives? we dont know hard to imagine games like fallout and elder scrolls not being on PC, and I think MSs current position on exclusives is that they want them all to be on PC as well --- The Betrayer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raze_Razel 09/21/20 1:52:10 PM #14: |
PyroBlade1985 posted...
Does this mean all future TES, Fallout and Doom are X-box exclusives? it means, MTXs out the ass..... --- --- have I done it? Have I derailed another thread with logic and facts? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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papercup 09/21/20 1:56:00 PM #15: |
PyroBlade1985 posted...
Does this mean all future TES, Fallout and Doom are X-box exclusives? Well, Deathloop is slated to be a PS5 exclusive, but now Microsoft owns the dev. But Microsoft has said they won't touch Deathloop, so who knows. --- Nintendo Network ID: papercups 3DS FC: 4124 5916 9925 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FourthDimension 09/21/20 1:57:56 PM #16: |
Raze_Razel posted...
it means, MTXs out the ass.....Which Microsoft property has MTXs out the ass? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raze_Razel 09/21/20 2:08:59 PM #17: |
FourthDimension posted...
Which Microsoft property has MTXs out the ass? "property" would be the operative word, huh? An exclusive example of MTX exploitations' made directly by Microsoft?... Minecraft is a good example. Gears 5 Halo 5 Even arcade classics like Minesweeper, Solitare have microtransactions at one point. Regardless, it's not too much of a reach to see how Microsoft will exploit TES fandom to do what Bethesda and Steam tried to do with the Creation Club on Skyrim. --- --- have I done it? Have I derailed another thread with logic and facts? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DirtBasedSoap 09/21/20 2:13:08 PM #18: |
I bet TES is a timed console exclusive
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Noop_Noop 09/21/20 2:23:35 PM #19: |
gee, i hope they dont do to bethesda what bethesda did to bethesda or they could end up ruining several already ruined franchises
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Zeus 09/21/20 2:28:28 PM #20: |
https://i.imgur.com/jEtrAPT.jpg
While I guess even if ES, FO, etc, do become exclusive to the XB among the consoles, it'll still be on PC so I don't need to get a XB whatever. Not that it addresses the potentially larger issue of MS fucking with stuff. ParanoidObsessive posted... Considering how shit Bethesda's been lately and how public opinion has been turning against it Uh, what? (And that's overlooking your usual weird Bethesda hate) CarefreeDude posted... I'd rather microsoft buy it than sony. Could you imagine no more elder scrolls on PC? https://i.imgur.com/yEdNuGn.gif Mostly preferred it on consoles since I haven't used mods, but I guess there's a lot of advantage on the PC because of mods. papercup posted... Well, Deathloop is slated to be a PS5 exclusive, but now Microsoft owns the dev. But Microsoft has said they won't touch Deathloop, so who knows. They probably already had an existing deal that they couldn't get out of, though. --- (\/)(\/)|-| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Noop_Noop 09/21/20 2:32:37 PM #21: |
zeus is a bethesda fanboy....
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wolfy42 09/21/20 3:33:40 PM #22: |
I believe they stated that the future games would be coming out on gampass for PC and Xbox, so it doesn't sound like xbox exclusives......hopefully. Maybe xbox console exclusive but my favorite platform is pc anyway.
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wwinterj25 09/21/20 3:59:24 PM #23: |
I hope Elder Scrolls VI still comes out on PS5. I assume it will be who knows? Not really that bothered about the rest.
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Blightzkrieg 09/21/20 4:23:39 PM #24: |
ParanoidObsessive posted...
Considering how shit Bethesda's been lately and how public opinion has been turning against it, Microsoft may have just bought themselves a hand grenade.That was my first thought, but depending on exactly how badly Bethesda has been doing this might be a "buy it when it's low" situation. Microsoft certainly can't make Bethesda any worse at this point. I'm interested to see if this changes anything. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veedrock- 09/21/20 4:25:21 PM #25: |
Yo we can get more Obsidian Fallout games :O
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likehelly 09/21/20 4:36:03 PM #26: |
Raze_Razel posted...
Regardless, it's not too much of a reach to see how Microsoft will exploit TES fandom to do what Bethesda and Steam tried to do with the Creation Club on Skyrim.so microsoft is gonna try to do to bethesda ips what bethesda was already doing to their ips?! oh shit no way --- // / ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 09/21/20 4:44:01 PM #27: |
People talking about how New Vegas 2 could now be a very real possibility what with MS owning Obsidian
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papercup 09/21/20 4:46:07 PM #28: |
Me I want an official 4K release of Morrowind.
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Sensual_T_Rex 09/21/20 6:25:49 PM #29: |
papercup posted...
Me I want an official 4K release of Morrowind. It'd be cool to see an updated version of Fallout 3 and New Vegas as well. --- Son this might be the head wound talking but purple submarine light bulb. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rotpar 09/21/20 6:27:32 PM #30: |
I doubt any good will come of this; it's the video game industry, everything is terrible.
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zebatov 09/21/20 7:15:35 PM #31: |
Back to reality.
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Dikitain 09/21/20 7:37:42 PM #32: |
I'm not all that surprised, Bethesda and ID are pretty much PC companies that produce console ports, and both of them were instrumental in making the original XBox a success (having Morrowind and Doom 3 as console exclusives on it). Oblivion was even a timed exclusive when it first came out.
At this point though, unless it is made by Nintendo I think exclusives are pretty much a thing of the past, so I wouldn't worry too much about that. --- I am a Contract Software Developer. What does that mean? I don't know, let me know if you figure it out. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sahuagin 09/21/20 9:53:00 PM #33: |
papercup posted...
https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/09/21/welcoming-bethesda-to-the-xbox-family/hmmmmm the more I think of it, the more I think this is (probably) a good thing, or even a great thing. Bethesda's whole problem is that they barely even qualify as a software company. well, now they're owned by one of the biggest and "best" software companies in the world. that's exactly what is needed to get better games out of them, very theoretically. the only worrisome part is that Doom doesn't really need any help right now, so MS better not mess with it. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zareth 09/21/20 10:54:39 PM #34: |
Microsoft buying a company is never a good sign. Look at Rare.
Mead posted... People talking about how New Vegas 2 could now be a very real possibility what with MS owning ObsidianLike nobody who worked on New Vegas is still at Obsidian though. --- It's okay, I have no idea who I am either. https://imgur.com/WOo6wcq ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackScythe0 09/21/20 11:30:40 PM #35: |
I'm really shocked by this occurring. But I suppose it's similar to Blizzard getting bought by activision and then WoW goes to shit.
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Mead 09/21/20 11:48:09 PM #36: |
Zareth posted...
Like nobody who worked on New Vegas is still at Obsidian though. guess you dont know about Douglas Bubbletrousers --- The Betrayer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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likehelly 09/22/20 12:06:01 AM #37: |
Zareth posted...
Microsoft buying a company is never a good sign. Look at Rare.rare is the most successful they've ever been and have complete autonomy sounds like microsoft buying them was a great thing for them on the whole --- // / ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ConfusedTorchic 09/22/20 12:12:13 AM #38: |
https://twitter.com/XboxGamePassX/status/1308101278057127938
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Metalsonic66 09/22/20 12:13:18 AM #39: |
I just played Skyrim on my car stereo
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likehelly 09/22/20 12:14:10 AM #40: |
something tells me that that's not an official microsoft account
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shipwreckers 09/22/20 12:47:42 AM #41: |
As long as they don't interfere any further with modding, the end products should be pretty status quo.
Just be glad EA didn't get their hands on it. We'd be relying on microtransactions to progress our TES characters. --- Money is overrated... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 09/22/20 1:00:39 AM #42: |
Noop_Noop posted...
zeus is a bethesda fanboy.... I don't entirely object to this characterization, although I imagine other fans might. --- (\/)(\/)|-| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GawainBS 09/22/20 2:58:15 AM #43: |
Veedrock- posted...
Yo we can get more Obsidian Fallout games :O My first thought too! Rejoice! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xfma100 09/22/20 3:13:59 AM #44: |
wolfy42 posted...
I believe they stated that the future games would be coming out on gampass for PC and Xbox, so it doesn't sound like xbox exclusives......hopefully. Maybe xbox console exclusive but my favorite platform is pc anyway. Yea, I doubt this means TES, Doom, Fallout, etc. become Xbox exclusives. Maybe as timed exclusives, but they will release on Playstation at some point too. And this won't affect PC releases at all. To me, it seems like Microsoft can now put every single Zenimax IP on Game Pass, which is a huge boon for that service. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Krazy_Kirby 09/22/20 3:44:57 AM #45: |
CarefreeDude posted...
I'd rather microsoft buy it than sony. Could you imagine no more elder scrolls on PC? except sony games have been coming to pc --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nightwind 09/22/20 1:30:36 PM #46: |
Insert fallout 76 joke here.
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adjl 09/22/20 2:13:01 PM #47: |
likehelly posted...
rare is the most successful they've ever been and have complete autonomy For them, sure, but he was pretty clearly talking about the consumer side of things. Given that Rare's produced like two games that the core gamer market would consider decent since the purchase 17 years ago (one of which was just a compilation of their pre-purchase titles), I'd say that assessment was accurate enough. New Rare may be doing better for itself than Old Rare did, but the reasons people liked Old Rare did not survive Microsoft buying the studio. Now, the primary reason for Rare's massive drop in quality was that a sizable chunk of their development staff - many of whom were responsible for some of their best titles - left the studio after Microsoft bought them, largely due to irreconcilable differences with the pro-sale folks. That wasn't actually Microsoft ruining them so much as it was them ruining themselves over being bought by Microsoft, such that treating them as a harbinger of doom for any other studio Microsoft buys isn't altogether reasonable. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raze_Razel 09/22/20 3:17:25 PM #48: |
likehelly posted...
so microsoft is gonna try to do to bethesda ips what bethesda was already doing to their ips?! Except you missed the part where they failed at doing it the first time. And the second with Fallout 4, and a third with Fallout 76...... And now with Microsoft backing TES6, it's not going bode well at all. --- --- have I done it? Have I derailed another thread with logic and facts? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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likehelly 09/22/20 7:08:53 PM #49: |
Raze_Razel posted...
no they didn't the creation club still very much exists on both pc and consoles for both skyrim and fallout 4 76 never got it because it has the atom shop, which is, again, microtransactions. so you are still accusing Microsoft of maybe trying to do a thing that bethesda is literally already doing. --- // / ... Copied to Clipboard!
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