Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 336: Through the Wire

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Wanglicious
11/04/20 10:36:39 AM
#301:


...oh.
predicting the next step this mail in argument is gonna go in: dems voted twice. once by mail, then once again in person, and both are in the count. so a recount and a recheck to prevent double voting results will be needed.


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turbopuns3
11/04/20 10:37:19 AM
#302:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Thankfully he doesnt actually need to accept them; on January 20th he will no longer be president regardless of his acknowledgment of reality.

This post just made me for the first time take a moment to fully realize that post-presidential trump tweets are going to be a thing
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The Mana Sword
11/04/20 10:37:40 AM
#303:


itt we list other things devastating in percentage and power of destruction

Link

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Suprak the Stud
11/04/20 10:37:42 AM
#304:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1324007806694023169?s=21

This is a fucking amazing tweet

This might be my new favorite Trump tweet.

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KanzarisKelshen
11/04/20 10:37:56 AM
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Hbthebattle
11/04/20 10:38:02 AM
#306:


So what's the over/under on Trump running in 2024

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Corrik7
11/04/20 10:38:31 AM
#307:


House will spend the next 2 years investigating Trump and doing nothing else and get midtermed on their control

Also winning the Senate in 2022 will be harder in a midterm year with president in power.

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Jakyl25
11/04/20 10:38:56 AM
#308:


Corrik7 posted...
Wonder if Trump would have won if the census changes were instituted for this election.


If he loses PA or GA, no

If he wins both of those, I think so
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LordoftheMorons
11/04/20 10:39:43 AM
#309:


nah this is still the best Trump tweet

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1217909231946477575?s=20

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Corrik7
11/04/20 10:40:10 AM
#310:


Gonna miss Trump's tweets

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masterplum
11/04/20 10:40:51 AM
#311:


Glad Susan collins won. One of the only moderates left in the entire senate

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iiaattgg
11/04/20 10:40:56 AM
#312:


Suprak the Stud posted...
This might be my new favorite Trump tweet.
Its amazing. Any time someone says how come I cant view them as anything other than a four year old who got one turn on the trampoline and their friend got two

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Hbthebattle
11/04/20 10:41:06 AM
#313:


Corrik7 posted...
Gonna miss Trump's tweets
Do you think he'll stop tweeting once he leaves office?

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Wanglicious
11/04/20 10:41:16 AM
#314:


that trump tweet fuels the SMT lover in me.
though i guess Devil May Cry might fit better with its camp.

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Suprak the Stud
11/04/20 10:42:17 AM
#315:


Corrik7 posted...
House will spend the next 2 years investigating Trump and doing nothing else and get midtermed on their control

Also winning the Senate in 2022 will be harder in a midterm year with president in power.

There are no vulnerable dem seats that I see, but I dunno where they pick up seats in an off presidential year with Biden in power either. Like their best options are Wisconsin or open seats (retiring republicans) in PA or NC, but all of those are uphill imo.

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Corrik7
11/04/20 10:42:59 AM
#316:


Hbthebattle posted...
Do you think he'll stop tweeting once he leaves office?
People will stop quoting them. Yes.

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Wanglicious
11/04/20 10:43:21 AM
#317:


...update from the NYT.

Arizona isn't 98% counted.
it's 86% due to an error.


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DoomTheGyarados
11/04/20 10:43:41 AM
#318:


KanzarisKelshen posted...
https://twitter.com/liamwbz/status/1324007227582259200?s=21

That explains a lot

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UshiromiyaEva
11/04/20 10:44:49 AM
#319:


Tag.

I don't think the South Florida missing votes are gonna be enough since I don't think those will SKU excessively D.

GA is over with this for sure though, and may have been even without them.

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Jakyl25
11/04/20 10:46:09 AM
#320:


Corrik7 posted...

People will stop quoting them. Yes.


Addicts dont just suddenly stop using very easily
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Peace___Frog
11/04/20 10:46:43 AM
#321:


masterplum posted...
Glad Susan collins won. One of the only moderates left in the entire senate
Not to be rude, but I think you're confused.

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RaidenGarai
11/04/20 10:47:12 AM
#322:


So what happens in that case? If the USPS fucked up, possibly because of a guy that's clearly trying to help Trump, what do they do? Are those voters just SOL?

I don't think it would have made a difference in Florida either, but it certainly seems like it would in Georgia

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TheRock1525
11/04/20 10:48:58 AM
#323:


I do wonder how much of Trump supporters are a-political and will fall back out of politics when he's no longer on the ballot.

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LordoftheMorons
11/04/20 10:49:32 AM
#324:


RaidenGarai posted...
So what happens in that case? If the USPS fucked up, possibly because of a guy that's clearly trying to help Trump, what do they do? Are those voters just SOL?

I don't think it would have made a difference in Florida either, but it certainly seems like it would in Georgia
I think because it was USPSs fault and not GA/FLs fault that theres nothing that can be done unless GA/FL law allow ballots to come in later (which I believe they dont)

Hope Im wrong about that!

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Corrik7
11/04/20 10:50:39 AM
#325:


Wanglicious posted...
...update from the NYT.

Arizona isn't 98% counted.
it's 86% due to an error.
Trump still says he will win arizona.

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Jakyl25
11/04/20 10:50:54 AM
#326:


TheRock1525 posted...
I do wonder how much of Trump supporters are a-political and will fall back out of politics when he's no longer on the ballot.


Dont jinx it
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Hbthebattle
11/04/20 10:51:01 AM
#327:


TheRock1525 posted...
I do wonder how much of Trump supporters are a-political and will fall back out of politics when he's no longer on the ballot.
>implying he wont be on the ballot in 2024

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iiaattgg
11/04/20 10:51:04 AM
#328:


Wanglicious posted...
...update from the NYT.

Arizona isn't 98% counted.
it's 86% due to an error.
I dont think AZ is a factor here

the path for trump is GA/MI/PA, which seems more and more out of grasp

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Jakyl25
11/04/20 10:51:28 AM
#329:


Corrik7 posted...

Trump still says he will win arizona.


Somehow there will be magical ballot dumps for him? VERY STRANGE
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Forceful_Dragon
11/04/20 10:52:10 AM
#330:


So that's referring to ballots that never reached the voters, correct?

So they had to either change their plans to vote-in-person, or decide not to vote?

And I'm not sure how Florida was set up. Were they sending ballots to everyone or only those that requested ballots? Because if they are a request-only state then it would stand to reason that the requests skewed democrat.

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Suprak the Stud
11/04/20 10:52:18 AM
#331:


I know at least several people online that were voting Trump almost exclusively for his anti-mask stance and his desire to reopen the country regardless of personal cost. Most of these are traditionally non voters and at least claimed they didn't vote for Trump in 2016 (which I'm a little dubious about but at least taking them at their word). I don't think those people are republican votes again in 2024 but who knows how big of a population that is. Probably very marginal if I had to guess.

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HeroDelTiempo17
11/04/20 10:52:42 AM
#332:


KanzarisKelshen posted...
https://twitter.com/liamwbz/status/1324007227582259200?s=21

Tweet is deleted now but I just saw this Vice article about it

https://www.vice.com/amp/en/article/5dppad/why-the-post-offices-last-minute-ballot-crisis-isnt-as-dire-as-it-seems?__twitter_impression=true

Tldr might not actually be an issue because USPS likely started manually sending out ballots without reporting it to go faster. There are some other logistical concerns but the amount of undelivered ballots isn't to be taken at face value

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TheRock1525
11/04/20 10:59:19 AM
#334:


Jakyl25 posted...
Dont jinx it

Dude sounded defeated at his press conference and his tweets come off as more whiney than defiant and ready to take this to the end.

I think his energy for this is gone.

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Hbthebattle
11/04/20 10:59:27 AM
#335:


UltimaterializerX posted...
However Florida counts votes is how everyone should do it. Outside of one election, they've been aces.

no


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Kingfrost
11/04/20 11:00:35 AM
#336:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
So that's referring to ballots that never reached the voters, correct?

You know it's kinda weird. I voted by mail (well drop box) for the first time this year. (First time I was able to!). I didn't get my ballot in the mail for a long time, then one day I happened to be looking through my car and it was there. I guess the mailman put it there (only way it could've gotten there) but I was lucky to have found it.
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LordoftheMorons
11/04/20 11:04:50 AM
#337:


Welp 8am seems as good a time to force myself to go to sleep as any

Hope to see more good news when I wake up!

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Kinglicious
11/04/20 11:07:10 AM
#338:


iiaattgg posted...
I dont think AZ is a factor here

the path for trump is GA/MI/PA, which seems more and more out of grasp

His campaign disagrees on AZ at least.
I think they're under the impression that the 12% missing are election day votes because those were the last ones Arizona was counting. If true, those do skew to Trump heavy.


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Jakyl25
11/04/20 11:10:58 AM
#339:


Suprak the Stud posted...
I know at least several people online that were voting Trump almost exclusively for his anti-mask stance and his desire to reopen the country regardless of personal cost. Most of these are traditionally non voters and at least claimed they didn't vote for Trump in 2016 (which I'm a little dubious about but at least taking them at their word). I don't think those people are republican votes again in 2024 but who knows how big of a population that is. Probably very marginal if I had to guess.


There are a lot of people who voted for Trump that didnt vote in 2016 so they had to come from somewhere
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iiaattgg
11/04/20 11:11:20 AM
#340:


Kinglicious posted...
His campaign disagrees on AZ at least.
I think they're under the impression that the 12% missing are election day votes because those were the last ones Arizona was counting. If true, those do skew to Trump heavy.
Right and he could very well win it, I just dont think its going to factor into the endgame

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Kinglicious
11/04/20 11:13:16 AM
#341:


That's fair.
End game won't be happening for weeks anyway. Recounts and checking for double votes will take up the time.

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iiaattgg
11/04/20 11:13:23 AM
#342:


Actually if he gets Arizona and Nevada he could lose michigan or Georgia. But he still needs those states plus one of mi and ga and Pennsylvania. I still think its ballgame

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Yesmar_
11/04/20 11:15:15 AM
#343:


I will say that despite the grousing about Biden reaching out to suburban moderates/conservatives/Republicans, if WI/MI/PA (and maybe GA) pulling through is what gets him the victory, that strategy worked. He did what he was hired to do.


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Reg
11/04/20 11:15:31 AM
#344:


Suprak the Stud posted...
I know at least several people online that were voting Trump almost exclusively for his anti-mask stance and his desire to reopen the country regardless of personal cost.
You know several selfish fucking morons, my dude
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HeroDelTiempo17
11/04/20 11:17:10 AM
#345:


Look at all this useless fucking money

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1323439569866493953?s=19

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htaeD
11/04/20 11:19:00 AM
#346:


Kinglicious posted...
That's fair.
End game won't be happening for weeks anyway. Recounts and checking for double votes will take up the time.


At least it does not seem like trump is gonna do much premature celebrations along the way.
*knock on wood*
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charmander6000
11/04/20 11:26:28 AM
#348:


htaeD posted...
At least it does not seem like trump is gonna do much premature celebrations along the way.
*knock on wood*

Pretty much, the fact that Biden has flipped enough states by the very next morning has pretty much muted any of Trump's celebrations and puts him on the defensive (or at the very least into a wait and see mode). All the more important role Arizona played last night. We could have been waiting for Georgia to finish up or worse watch Pennsylvania for days.

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Wanglicious
11/04/20 11:35:29 AM
#350:


yeah, twitter's fueling their argument there. it's really not hard to say yeah it looks weird but explain why or how it could be legit. all this does is strengthen the argument that it's fixed.

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