Board 8 > Fuck 2020 Mafia: Topic 4 - I Hereby Claim Myself TOWN, For Votals Purposes

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Claimed Themselves TOWN (21):
1) Aecioo
2) banananor
3) Crescent-Moon
4) Dark_Young_Link
5) DoomTheGyarados
6) DoubleTangicide
7) dowolf
8) Fastbreak
9) HanOfTheNekos
10) Hbthebattle
11) htaeD
12) IfGodCouldDie
13) Johnbobb
14) Leanansidhe
15) MajinZidane
16) masterplum
17) MysteriousStan
18) pjbasis
19) PunishedBen
20) red13n
21) turbopuns3

Claimed themselves DEAD (0):

WITH 21 ALIVE IT TAKES 11 TO LYNCH. DAY ENDS AT 7 PM CST ON TUESDAY (1 HOUR 40 MINUTES FROM THE TIME OF THIS POST).

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VOTALS The Hedgehog:
[6] red - Chris, (IGCD), Han, plum, Scare, ben, Tange
[5] DYL - (Chris), (IGCD), Aecioo, (Scare), IGCD, Stan, dowolf, Hb
[2] Aecioo - Lea, (Crescent), red, (Death)
[1] dowolf - (plum), DYL
[0] IGCD - (red)
[0] Han - (Lea), (DYL), (Stan), (Stan), (Crescent)
[0] ben - (puns), (Crescent), (DYL)
[0] plum - (red), (Hb), (Stan)
[0] Hb - (dowolf)
[0] pjbasis - (Lea), (red)
[0] Scare - (puns), (Johnbobb), (Lea), (DYL), (ben)
[0] Stan - (Han)
[0] Chris - (Scare)
[0] puns - (Hb)
[0] banananor - (Johnbobb)

WITH 21 ALIVE IT TAKES 11 TO LYNCH. DAY ENDS AT 7 PM CST TONIGHT (ROUGHLY 35 MINUTES FROM NOW)!

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another topic for you to

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Will we hit 2020 posts day 1

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Plum does not deserve that ridicule tbh. Plum isn't always the best but he gives a good, earnest effort.

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undefined posted...

I explained why the very next post after the one you quoted!

undefined posted... Suspicion is the best I could do for most players, Crescent. With Han, IGCD and Red taking the brunt of it.
My morning catchup posts are more about me stating where I stand anyway. Though I will grant you I could have explained some parts better.

undefined posted... I was kinda distracted, I am definitely leaning towards voting Red, but I wanted to see his reaction to the Kobe claim first

undefined posted... Thats my fault then for not making that clearer earlier. But I feel I made no secret of my suspicion on him or the fact that my suspicion of Han was waning.

undefined posted... Well I don't know either.

But at the time I did think Han could scum for what Lea said too
It was a bit complicated for me since red gave me less to work with, but made a stronger impression in short bursts.. if that makes sense. Then Han explained one thing (which was a bad read from me anyway), and that left me with less suspicion of him.
When I talked about Red overreacting to PJ, I meant that as an indictment of him too.

Red had already been posting for hours when this exchange happened, and this was in the last hour or two. Enough changed to make you totally waver?

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I agree with all of Chris's recent posts except for one, seems like an okay guy.

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My tactical skill is dramatically better than my scum hunting. I obliterated scum as doctor and have punted games as vanilla.

I accept who I am

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Also ulti obviously won't be in this game, no need to bring him into this one

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Wow death, not even concerned that it was ME who betrayed our alliance?

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MajinZidane posted...

I agree with all of Chris's recent posts except for one, seems like an okay guy.

Possible bad boko alert.

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Let the record reflect that I asked red to claim half an hour ago, any last minute complaints about preparing a claim are fake news.

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The biggest problem I have with Death's argument is Red started talking two pages before my exchange with him even started and Death did nothing to address Red directly. He was telling me his reasons for suspecting Red without just... Poking Red himself, and then his opinion changed without any a single direct exchange from him at Red.

Red attacked Death a bit, but Death kind of did nothing about it.

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Wait. I thought Puns was involved in the alliance.

Somehow.

I don't even know anymore.
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shit so work ran late today and I'm a little behind on anything

making dinner at the moment and don't know that I'll have time to fully catch up on the last topic and a half before deadline

I think I know the argument on DYL from early topic 2 unless that changed, what's the argument on red?

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Fastbreak posted...

Also ulti obviously won't be in this game, no need to bring him into this one

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Lea is being sheep, probably still town. Don't think she makes that move as scum.

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##Vote: DoubleTangicide

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dowolf posted...

Wait. I thought Puns was involved in the alliance.

Somehow.

I don't even know anymore.

Where IS Puns?

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this is a much better vote than the front runners

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dowolf posted...

Wait. I thought Puns was involved in the alliance.

Somehow.

I don't even know anymore.

He was but he denies it

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banananor posted...

##Vote: DoubleTangicide

I don't think this is a bad vote, per se.

But why you did vote him specifically?

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Crescent-Moon posted...

Red had already been posting for hours when this exchange happened, and this was in the last hour or two. Enough changed to make you totally waver?

Thats not the post I wanted to point towards for one thing.

I hadnt entirely caught up yet when I came back, but yes I was still leaning Red.
After that Red talked to me directly and I thoroughly read the posts he made during my absence and saw how he reacted to Chris, which I felt explained some of it.
I already said it was never a superstrong read
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banananor posted...

this is a much better vote than the front runners

Annnnd you already answered

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Crescent-Moon posted...

Where IS Puns?

Puns was here earlier. He had the most accurate read of town red of anyone. I mean, he could be scum puns playing up the advantage, not enough interaction to clear him. But town puns has been on a roll so I lean this way right now.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

Where IS Puns?

...Where IS PUNS?!

Also, what Moon said r: Banana's vote on Tange.
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Johnbobb posted...

shit so work ran late today and I'm a little behind on anything

making dinner at the moment and don't know that I'll have time to fully catch up on the last topic and a half before deadline

I think I know the argument on DYL from early topic 2 unless that changed, what's the argument on red?

Its okay you're confirmed town so you can relax today. I'd vote red though

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alright not as long as I would have chosen to be able to play but I'm here for the fireworks at least. let's start removing options

21) turbopuns3 - town

3) Crescent-Moon - has contributed a good deal of observation and no particularly scummy posts that stood out, not a smart lynch choice

6) DoubleTangicide - tange I feel has not been super available but has been fine when he's here, not worth entertaining today

10) Hbthebattle - town read

12) IfGodCouldDie - dumb lynch choice
13) Johnbobb - dumb lynch choice

14) Leanansidhe - good vibes and has brought forth at least one or two cases for discussion

15) MajinZidane - he's like a venerable grandfather, why would we kill him

16) masterplum - is smart and useful though unorthodox

leaving

1) Aecioo
2) banananor
18) pjbasis
4) Dark_Young_Link
5) DoomTheGyarados
7) dowolf
8) Fastbreak
9) HanOfTheNekos
11) htaeD
17) MysteriousStan
19) PunishedBen
20) red13n

ok gotta start making some calls here

lynching a lower end activity is dumb day 1 so let's remove

1) Aecioo
2) banananor
18) pjbasis

leaving

4) Dark_Young_Link
5) DoomTheGyarados
7) dowolf
8) Fastbreak
9) HanOfTheNekos
11) htaeD
17) MysteriousStan
19) PunishedBen
20) red13n

DYL has read like his self to me for most of day 1 and I don't think any arguments I read ever persuaded me much to distrust him so I don't think he's a great choice, but not a total waste like some others would be, thanks to how much activity surrounded him today.

Chris would be a spicey meme but not a ton more useful, I think, unless someone just blows us all away with an amazing actual case beyond "F 2020"

dowolf is kind of an interesting option. my notes say popping in offering to vote ben was a bit head-turny, voted HB because he didn't like HB's vote on plum, and was seemingly unaware that he was buddied up to by death (allegedly according to scare)

dowolf, can you summarize the situation with reasonings of you voting HB?

also Scare did you ever answer what the alleged buddying was supposed to be?

Scare himself I just don't think is a logical choice today? I felt he came in with a lot of energy and was like, paying attention and dunking on DYL reasoning and stuff. And he is a very useful player when town so probably has earned time

Han could be a choice. I normally am erring on the side of being too distracted by whatever Han is up to but this game he didn't really make my notes aside from mentioning suspicion on Aecioo and giving plum permission to lynch him. I suppose I should revisit Lea's case because I think she was the one who was hounding Han right?

death has made me laugh at least twice this game so I hereby declare him to be town. just kidding, but I want him to be because I liked how he also was confused by Crescent's "gotcha" moment regarding Ben early on. his style is kind of summary-like in nature so I have a tendency to get to the end of his post and not really have taken anything away from it regarding him. I see some rumblings for a death lynch but he wouldn't be one of my first choices for day 1.

stan I could vote for. I have a couple notes of scum pings on him, and I know he's been around enough to not be really considered close to an idler. Early on he made a post about filing something away and it read kind of manufactured to me in the moment. And later I noticed him doing a thing I tend to associate with scum posturing which was popping into a conversation just to clarify something. I can dig up the post number if needed.

ben is a heart pick for town for me, however a potential valid choice for day 1 lynch because he had a good deal of spotlight early so we may be able to really put the game under the microscope quickly with his flip.

and that leaves red. I know I am probably missing some pretty relevant content regarding red whilst I write up this post but I don't think red's the best idea for today. He reciprocated my read of his demeanor basically, which well I guess of course one would do that but still. He seems sincere to me and again he's a useful player that I think has earned a day 1 pass.

For now having looked over my post probably either dowolf, han, or stan?

Time to get up to speed holy fuck 76 posts plus the next topic lol

Crescent-Moon posted...

Annnnd you already answered

That isn't an answer at all though?
Banana, what exactly makes Tange a better lynch than the front-runners?

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Jesus Christ guys, 5 pages, come on.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Ok, here's a question about the two leading lynches: Why did IGCD suddenly stop sheeping Chris to go to DYL? Also, DYL now has both Aecioo and Dowolf on him.

That is a good point. Must've been looking at the people who unvoted when I said I felt good about that lynch.

Crescent-Moon posted... In that game, Aecioo got into an argument with someone early and tunneled him.. I just don't remember who, but not a regular to here I think. It was town/town I felt Aecioo was using a bad tunnel on that other person as an excuse to not focus on any other part of the game. He wasn't very active aside from it and I harassed him over it until I got into a fight with him too.

Not sure if you've found out yet, but I'm relatively sure the other player was me, although I can't remember the game.

I would be quoting Crescent a third time here but it'd be weird so I'll just say I am agreeing with you on Hb Crescent. I want to say, the last time I felt that I was really in-tune with you, you were Town, so yay.

Dowolf has really looked worse over the past little bit as well. Especially if Red flips Scum. Which, at this point, I feel way more confident in. CFTWR seems apt to describe it.

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


thanks for joining me on our train, i knew youd see the light :)

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PunishedBen posted...

Wow death, not even concerned that it was ME who betrayed our alliance?

Sorry, dont have time for that, Ben.
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Puns posted...

dowolf, can you summarize the situation with reasonings of you voting HB?

Didn't like his vote on... Plum? Think it was Plum. It's been a long day.
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Pretty thin so late into the day, dowolf.

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Yeah, I'm BAD BOKO ALERT for thinking these posts are fine.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

I did say you were not going to like my flavor, Scare.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

He can't hurt you anymore, or the Kings.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

KOBE

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Scare is fine.

Death.... may not be fine, but is probably only scum with red.

Stay the course please and thank you.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Yup

DoomTheGyarados posted...

I am just sitting here, waiting for red to do something towny but instead talks up Ulti.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

anyway my research of red is he is alive but actively scummy now.

Don't know what y'all will decide but my vote is fine by me.

If you're Chris and your character is Kobe, how do you NOT say stuff like this? These are exactly what Chris would say. From my perspective, already not liking you for reasons stated, how in the world am I bad for agreeing with someone sticking to his convictions that don't even contradict my own? I'm not bad.

@turbopuns3 I'm a grandfather, and this man is town

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turbopuns3 posted...

He seems sincere to me and again he's a useful player that I think has earned a day 1 pass.

For now having looked over my post probably either dowolf, han, or stan?

lol puns is scum

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Pretty thin so late into the day, dowolf.

I'm not voting HB right now!

(Wouldn't mind specialing onto him, but >_>)

Besides, it's day 1. All I have is gut. Gut, and glory.
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MajinZidane posted...

If you're Chris and your character is Kobe, how do you NOT say stuff like this? These are exactly what Chris would say. From my perspective, already not liking you for reasons stated, how in the world am I bad for agreeing with someone sticking to his convictions that don't even contradict my own? I'm not bad.

Kobe is safelisted? Or scum(I don't know the split)?

This logic doesn't resolve, boko.

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Hbthebattle posted...

That isn't an answer at all though?
Banana, what exactly makes Tange a better lynch than the front-runners?

He gave me the answer I needed.

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I don't understand Boko's post at all.
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I veto a tang lynch

He did something earlier that screamed town tang, dont remember what but he did a thing

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red13n posted...

Kobe is safelisted? Or scum(I don't know the split)?

This logic doesn't resolve, boko.

KOBE

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HanOfTheNekos posted...

thanks for joining me on our train, i knew youd see the light :)

Anyway, Han has been able to read me like a book recently. I definitely am pondering if this is a han/chris scumteam feeling like they can coast right now. No one seems to want to change their minds right now and I am running out of willpower. This message from han is particularly prickly. I don't like it. Needle has moved to scum for Han.

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Hm. Still no DYL. Getting pretty close to deadline. Expecting him to pop in and claim any second.

As much as some of these splinters seem savory, we'll get a lot more out of today if people stop pussyfooting and put their votes down on the top two lynch leaders.

If you vote for neither I'll vig u tonight

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Anyway with 19 or so minutes left in the day, let us listen to a song to welcome Red to the other side:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9Dg-g7t2l4

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KOBE
EBOK
EWOK
WOKE
WAKE
E-KAW
KAW
CAW
AW
W

Kobe is win, can't argue with that logic.
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red13n posted...

This message from han is particularly prickly.

most of my messages to Lea are particularly prickly

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dowolf posted...

I don't understand Boko's post at all.

A lot of the posts that Chris was responding to didn't come thru in the quotes so it's not in context and doesn't make sense. My b

I basically quoted all of Chris's posts on page 9 last topic and explained why I said I liked them after red called me bad.

@red13n okay, and I said if Chris is Kobe then it still makes sense. I notice you didn't acknowledge the part about me saying I liked a guy for sticking to his convictions that align with my own

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