Poll of the Day > It's really sad that an increasing number of people believe the Earth is flat.

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Unbridled9
03/15/21 2:10:42 PM
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Only 66% of people aged 18-24 believe the Earth is round. While a decent chunk are probably either trolling, being technical smartasses (it's oblong spheroid!), or something similar a full 4% of people from all age groups believe it is flat, 5% are skeptical of a round Earth, and 7% hold no opinion or aren't sure. That's really unsettling. If Google is as censor-happy as certain people seem to think couldn't they at least crack down on stuff like this and anti-vaxxers?

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Nichtcrawler X
03/15/21 2:14:01 PM
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Define "people"? All people? US citizens? Or perhaps a different subset?

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HornedLion
03/15/21 2:14:40 PM
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We flat earthers have members all over the globe.

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Unbridled9
03/15/21 2:20:57 PM
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Nichtcrawler X posted...
Define "people"? All people? US citizens? Or perhaps a different subset?

Americans.

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TheNobleWoodApe
03/15/21 2:26:31 PM
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How does Big Globe profit from perpetuating the Round Earth myth?

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Zikten
03/15/21 2:54:25 PM
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I still have trouble believing anyone actually thinks its flat. I feel like they are just trolling
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Lokarin
03/15/21 3:02:16 PM
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It's part of an anti-science counter culture... if you find a flat earther that isn't also an anti-vaxxer they probably legit believe in the flat earth

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EvilMegas
03/15/21 3:09:05 PM
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It's people like Kyrie Irving's fault. Them being famous and spreading their uninformed opinions and beliefs make kids(and adults sadly) believe their bullshit.

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Revelation34
03/15/21 3:53:23 PM
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Lokarin posted...
It's part of an anti-science counter culture... if you find a flat earther that isn't also an anti-vaxxer they probably legit believe in the flat earth


This isn't true at all.
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Lokarin
03/15/21 3:57:46 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
This isn't true at all.

I may speak with an authoritative tone, but that was just my wild guess; I mean - there's no way I can rationalize that there are real people that believe in more than one stupid thing.

One stupid thing is fair enough.

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ReturnOfFa
03/15/21 4:04:47 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H110vCGvTmM

They were the most anti-semetic group he interviewed o_o

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Hop103
03/15/21 4:24:40 PM
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Even so, Flat Earth is the most harmless of things to believe in with aliens being second.
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Blighboy
03/15/21 4:30:21 PM
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Hop103 posted...
Even so, Flat Earth is the most harmless of things to believe in with aliens being second.
Up until recently I would have tended to agree, but I think the mindset is problematic. It's not a huge jump from Flat Earth to Q.

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Lokarin
03/15/21 4:30:47 PM
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Blighboy posted...
Up until recently I would have tended to agree, but I think the mindset is problematic. It's not a huge jump from Flat Earth to Q.

But a Q is literally round :b

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Zeus
03/15/21 4:54:44 PM
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Unbridled9 posted...
Only 66% of people aged 18-24 believe the Earth is round.

When you see a number like that, usually it's a strong indication that the poll is unreliable or deceptive.

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ReturnOfFa
03/15/21 4:56:51 PM
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Hop103 posted...
Even so, Flat Earth is the most harmless of things to believe in with aliens being second.
Living with a conspiracy theorist has made me feel that calling this stuff 'harmless' isn't really accurate. The level of delusion necessary to throw out known basic science lends itself to believing anything and having no real point of view on anything - ie being extremely impressionable, malleable and steerable.

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keyblader1985
03/15/21 5:48:54 PM
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I agree; the willingness to deny science at its most fundamental level is a very bad thing, and can and does spread to other things.

It's ridiculous. We definitively figured this stuff out centuries ago.

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BlackScythe0
03/15/21 5:50:27 PM
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ReturnOfFa posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H110vCGvTmM

They were the most anti-semetic group he interviewed o_o
Honestly I know most conspiracy theorists are racist, but I thought most flat earthers were mostly harmless morons. Nope dude literally saying Hitler was demonized by the Rothschilds.
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ReturnOfFa
03/15/21 6:18:52 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Honestly I know most conspiracy theorists are racist, but I thought most flat earthers were mostly harmless morons. Nope dude literally saying Hitler was demonized by the Rothschilds.
There is also a lot of strange crossover I have witnessed between almost all conspiracies. My roommate would never claim to be anti-semetic, and really isn't. He would never say something as crazy as the stuff caught in that video. But he has said bizarre quick sentences that he has obviously gotten from some conspiracy huckster. "Well, Jewish people did have an unproportionate amount of influence within German society before WWII"

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JOExHIGASHI
03/15/21 6:24:00 PM
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Hop103 posted...
Even so, Flat Earth is the most harmless of things to believe in with aliens being second.
What if they become so unhinged they violently attack a NASA facility or a university and attempt to assassinate scientists and educators?

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UnknownNobody
03/15/21 6:27:15 PM
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Just as sad as thinking the human perspective is correct 100% of the time.
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streamofthesky
03/15/21 6:34:20 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Honestly I know most conspiracy theorists are racist, but I thought most flat earthers were mostly harmless morons. Nope dude literally saying Hitler was demonized by the Rothschilds.
I think media has tremendously conditioned our views on things in a number of disturbing ways.
Too often, stupid people are portrayed as kind and simple, well meaning folk. Even when portrayed unflattering for laughs, it's as charming bumbling idiots. While as villains and evil characters tend to be portrayed as intelligent and cunning, in a sinister way.

When in reality, incredibly stupid people can also be extremely evil and dangerous. And there's plenty of intelligent experts in their fields trying to improve our lives and society.

But it's totally lopsided in popular media. For some reason, it's seen as unseemly to portray idiots as villains and scum, and the conniving bad guys are seen as more interesting.
And that shit does matter. Much of the NRA's rhetoric for "needing" high capacity rapid firing death canons relies on potential narratives ripped from a bad action movie, and people buy into it.
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Zareth
03/15/21 6:48:17 PM
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ReturnOfFa posted...
They were the most anti-semetic group he interviewed o_o
Well if there's a conspiracy involved you can bet your ass that people will blame the Jews.

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Unbridled9
03/15/21 6:52:07 PM
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Zareth posted...
Well if there's a conspiracy involved you can bet your ass that people will blame the Jews.

Why is that the case anyways?

I mean, I get that we're talking about unhinged loonies, so logic isn't exactly an answer, but why does it always seem to be the Jews even if it's a conspiracy about, I dunno, who actually controls the pet food industry or whatever crazy theory is out there?

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Zareth
03/15/21 6:54:22 PM
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Because usury was a sin waaaaay back in the day so the Jews controlled the banks. So logically they must still control everything. /s

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Revelation34
03/15/21 8:33:48 PM
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Lokarin posted...


I may speak with an authoritative tone, but that was just my wild guess; I mean - there's no way I can rationalize that there are real people that believe in more than one stupid thing.

One stupid thing is fair enough.


I know somebody who believes literally every conspiracy theory.
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wolfy42
03/15/21 9:47:05 PM
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The earth is only flat because someone let all the air out of it. We just need to PUMP IT UP!!!

Everyone.....breathe out NOW!!!

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OhhhJa
03/15/21 9:53:59 PM
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Unbridled9 posted...
Only 66% of people aged 18-24 believe the Earth is round.
I really don't think this is true. I think you fell for some click clickbait homie
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deoxxys
03/15/21 9:56:00 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
I really don't think this is true. I think you fell for some click clickbait homie
Yeah literally never met someone in my life that thought the earth was flat

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BlackScythe0
03/15/21 10:37:49 PM
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Hop103 posted...
Even so, Flat Earth is the most harmless of things to believe in with aliens being second.
I believed that until I watched this video I no longer find them harmless when they promote Hitler as a decent guy.
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EvilMegas
03/15/21 10:46:33 PM
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Hop103 posted...
Even so, Flat Earth is the most harmless of things to believe in with aliens being second.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51602655

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ReturnOfFa
03/15/21 10:50:58 PM
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EvilMegas posted...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51602655
Can't believe I missed the fact that this guy died. What a crank.

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Muscles
03/15/21 10:55:04 PM
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deoxxys posted...
Yeah literally never met someone in my life that thought the earth was flat
I worked with 2 guys at my last job that would talk about it with people, no one took them seriouslyand they eventually shut up about it

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TheNobleWoodApe
03/15/21 11:14:27 PM
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There are plenty of conspiracy theories I'll entertain, even as a thought experiment.

Flat Earth and moon landing hoxes are damned sure not ones I'll tolerate.. I've literally seen the curvature of the Earth with my own eyes. I don't even know where to begin with what's wrong with flat earth from a physics perspective. I've done the whole lazer bounce off of the reflectors we left on the moon thing.

Literally every damned thing we look at in the universe that has a mass worth noting from particles to supergiant stars and black holes are more or less spherical, but Earth? Yeah, totally flat.

Flat Earthers piss me off for so many reasons I don't even know where to start.

Right up there on my list with people that put milk in early grey and make well done steak.

Again, follow the money. Who the hell benefits from "Big Globe" propaganda?

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papercup
03/15/21 11:19:19 PM
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Yeah I wouldn't say Flat Earth is harmless. The real problem with FE isn't the belief the earth is flat, it's that the entire thing is steeped in far right christian theocratic insanity. The goal isn't to get people to believe the earth is flat. The point is to radicalize people with some pretty awful ideas. It also naturally leads to other insane things like anti-vaxx and Q.

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Metalsonic66
03/16/21 12:15:51 AM
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Anyone who claims to believe the Earth is flat is trolling

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deoxxys
03/16/21 2:40:49 AM
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papercup posted...
the entire thing is steeped in far right christian theocratic insanity.
Based off the word Christian, I was going to say "hey leave my dad out of this", but it looks like you just stuck a bunch of things together

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wwinterj25
03/16/21 2:46:28 AM
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Unbridled9 posted...
Americans.
*points and laughs*

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streamofthesky
03/16/21 2:53:47 AM
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wwinterj25 posted...
*points and laughs*
https://eand.co/ how-britain-became-the-dumbest-society-in-the-world-e90431463924

Saw this article earlier, your laughter reminded me of it.
For what it's worth, until Britain happily pollutes its own air and drinking water, America is still #1 as far as I'm concerned.

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deoxxys
03/16/21 3:00:07 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
https://eand.co/ how-britain-became-the-dumbest-society-in-the-world-e90431463924

Saw this article earlier, your laughter reminded me of it.
For what it's worth, until Britain happily pollutes its own air and drinking water, America is still #1 as far as I'm concerned.

Lmao:
https://eand.co/americans-are-trapped-in-a-fascist-society-cc6e59bb6bbe


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wwinterj25
03/16/21 3:03:49 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
-snip-

https://youtu.be/78b67l_yxUc?t=22

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BlackScythe0
03/16/21 3:08:35 AM
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deoxxys posted...
Based off the word Christian, I was going to say "hey leave my dad out of this", but it looks like you just stuck a bunch of things together
Uh I mean that is pretty much what the flat earth conspiracy is.
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deoxxys
03/16/21 4:09:47 AM
#43:


BlackScythe0 posted...
Uh I mean that is pretty much what the flat earth conspiracy is.
Personally, I am not religious but I have a large branch of my family that is all Christian and non of them think the world is flat or that we should be ruled under a king though lol.

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FatalAccident
03/16/21 4:44:38 AM
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Hop103 posted...
Even so, Flat Earth is the most harmless of things to believe in with aliens being second.
I love how this dude thinks aliens are somehow a conspiracy theory

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Unbridled9
03/16/21 8:03:15 AM
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deoxxys posted...
Personally, I am not religious but I have a large branch of my family that is all Christian and non of them think the world is flat or that we should be ruled under a king though lol.

Plus the Bible outright says it's a sphere at one point. And it was well known even in medieval times that it was round.

If anything I've seen flat-earth movements more linked to the crazy left than the fanatical right but, let's be fair, when you're dealing with people who believe an essential oil is as good as medicine, can't grasp that 'down' means towards the center of the earth instead of some external point, and whatever else the question of political alignment is effectively irrelevant.

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kind9
03/16/21 8:13:29 AM
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Flat Earth is religious extremism based on Biblical literalism and irrational fear of "authority". Zetetic Astronomy: Earth not a Globe(1881) is the flat Earth Bible where they get all their pseudoscience. If you ask them why there is an international cabal of scientists and governments(mainly just NASA, for some reason) covering this up chances are they will say it's to hide God. Truly a reprehensible bunch of people.

If you have time this is a pretty entertaining(and extremely frustrating) "debate" between leader of the flat Earth society, Nathan Thompson, and Aron Ra. It's a two hour video but Aron ends the debate by leaving early.

https://youtu.be/fi-k36_DfKg?t=198

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NeoSioType
03/16/21 1:14:49 PM
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What even are the dimensions of human experience, man?
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Muscles
03/16/21 3:04:55 PM
#48:


FatalAccident posted...
I love how this dude thinks aliens are somehow a conspiracy theory
I mean the existence of aliens is statically probable but the conspiracy theories usually have to do with aliens coming to earth or the government being in context with them

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SirPikachu
03/16/21 3:39:43 PM
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I've been in a couple flat earth facebook groups just to see what they say and try to help some of them realize how dumb they are. It's really scary how they fall for it so heavily. There ARE some arguments for Flat Earth that do make sense, and even though almost all of them are easily disproven, these people's minds latch on to the "truth" they have been shown and make up crazy excuses for the facts that disprove it. And they are in general just not very smart and don't know high-school physics. I even got one to say he would never drink water with dihydrogen monoxide in it.

I think 4% is not correct though. I'm sure whatever poll was taken was skewed by the flat earthers swarming it to make it look like more people are as crazy as them.

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ReturnOfFa
03/16/21 4:12:34 PM
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But yeah, even though I do think 'general disinformation' is the big threat to society and worth combating, the original stats do seem pretty extreme.

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