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DarkRoast
03/26/21 11:23:17 PM
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For those that don't know, I'm half-Chinese. My brother looks considerably more Chinese than I do; I pretty much got everything from my dad, aside from brown (instead of blonde) hair. Pretty much nobody would even guess I'm half-Asian based on my looks.

But my brother has dealt with discrimination his whole life, and it's really starting to get to me because he always passes it off as "no big deal."

Except it is. It's a huge deal. It's NOT cool that people say shit like "I bet you play piano all the time" or "go back to where you came from." Particularly because I'm literally the same amount of Chinese as he is, yet they let me off the hook solely because of looks. He doesn't deserve it - we are born and raised here in the United States. We're Americans. The fact that I had to comfort my mother every time Trump and his supporters called COVID19 the "Chinese Virus," which resulted in passive-aggressive treatment from the conservatives in her neighborhood, is just distressing.

I'm in a very unique situation as someone who would be called a "white person" by a passerby, but I live in a Chinese family and I know our customs and lifestyle. I know how we're judged, and how we're portrayed by the media. Yet I also know what it's like to not be on the receiving end of those judgments. And it's wrong. It's ****ing ridiculous, Republicans. Grow the fuck up.


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MildEnergy
03/26/21 11:24:40 PM
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Remember when TC used to be an obnoxious right winger

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MildEnergy
03/26/21 11:25:51 PM
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And trust me I have faced a shit load of anti-Asian discrimination. You haven't. It took you that long to figure it out?

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DarkRoast
03/26/21 11:26:13 PM
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MildEnergy posted...
Remember when TC used to be an obnoxious right winger

People can change, if they're willing to accept they're wrong.

It took the GOP wandering into my lane and fucking it up beyond all comprehension for me to finally accept that their anti-expertise, anti-intellectual rhetoric is dangerous dumbassery in the highest order.


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skermac
03/26/21 11:27:15 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
For those that don't know, I'm half-Chinese. My brother looks considerably more Chinese than I do; I pretty much got everything from my dad, aside from brown (instead of blonde) hair. Pretty much nobody would even guess I'm half-Asian based on my looks.

But my brother has dealt with discrimination his whole life, and it's really starting to get to me because he always passes it off as "no big deal."

Except it is. It's a huge deal. It's NOT cool that people say shit like "I bet you play piano all the time" or "go back to where you came from." Particularly because I'm literally the same amount of Chinese as he is, yet they let me off the hook solely because of looks. He doesn't deserve it - we are born and raised here in the United States. We're Americans. The fact that I had to comfort my mother every time Trump and his supporters called COVID19 the "Chinese Virus," which resulted in passive-aggressive treatment from the conservatives in her neighborhood, is just distressing.

I'm in a very unique situation as someone who would be called a "white person" by a passerby, but I live in a Chinese family and I know our customs and lifestyle. I know how we're judged, and how we're portrayed by the media. Yet I also know what it's like to not be on the receiving end of those judgments. And it's wrong. It's ****ing ridiculous, Republicans. Grow the fuck up.


its wrong but if he isnt bothered it shouldnt bother you

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MildEnergy
03/27/21 2:09:20 AM
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DarkRoast posted...
People can change, if they're willing to accept they're wrong.

It took the GOP wandering into my lane and fucking it up beyond all comprehension for me to finally accept that their anti-expertise, anti-intellectual rhetoric is dangerous dumbassery in the highest order.
You will be back to voting R soon enough.

All it will take is some dude who pretends not to like Trump and you will be voting for him

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DarkRoast
03/27/21 2:10:27 AM
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MildEnergy posted...
You will be back to voting R soon enough.

All it will take is some dude who pretends not to like Trump and you will be voting for him

No, I pretty much discovered I don't agree with the Republican party on virtually any issue.

And you also need to stop being a judgmental dick.

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MildEnergy
03/27/21 2:11:22 AM
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DarkRoast posted...
No, I pretty much discovered I don't agree with the Republican party on virtually any issue.
Nah all you will need is Jeff Flake or Ben Sasse as nominee and you will lining up to vote for them.

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EnvoyOfTheLight
03/27/21 2:16:43 AM
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MildEnergy posted...
And trust me I have faced a shit load of anti-Asian discrimination. You haven't. It took you that long to figure it out?

You're not @LivingLegend 's alt?

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MildEnergy
03/27/21 2:16:46 AM
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cuh posted...
I dont appreciate the people here not accepting former right wing people. If youre a white person doing that, stop. Your job is to help get more people to the left. Talk to your parents and grandparents and get them out of that mindset. If your family is still right wing you can still do more, and you can start by not bashing others for growing and changing their mindsets.

Sorry I know this sounds a bit heated. I dont know TC but I didnt vibe with the responses I read.
Im not white and I have experienced more antiasian discrimination than her brother I bet

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EnvoyOfTheLight
03/27/21 2:19:08 AM
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MildEnergy posted...
Im not white and I have experienced more antiasian discrimination than her brother I bet

You do a good impression of the twitter victim complex thing, but I'm still a better troll than you.

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ColdRainAndSnow
03/27/21 2:20:39 AM
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There are 5th and 6th generation Asian Americans in our country, which is strange to see 3rd and 4th generation East Europeans be all like "go back to where you came from" it's messed up. America is rotten right now.

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ekie
03/27/21 2:22:27 AM
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If you have truly come to your senses then I applaud you TC. Better late than never

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ultimate reaver
03/27/21 2:23:47 AM
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DarkRoast posted...
took the GOP wandering into my lane and f***ing it up beyond all comprehension for me to finally accept that their anti-expertise, anti-intellectual rhetoric is dangerous dumbassery in the highest order.

I dont think it took me being personally affected to realize I was doing something terrible is as winning a statement as you might be imagining

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Dark_SilverX
03/27/21 2:26:47 AM
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Our political actors and actresses are enjoying the show they created. The political theater is so perfect enough that you can't even say both sides anymore.

Anybody of Asian decent, and people who look similar need to becareful being outside and watch surroundings at all time.

It's extremely obvious what has happened to the country.

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ultimate reaver
03/27/21 2:34:41 AM
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cuh posted...
I get it. But consider offering some grace here. It has undoubtedly been an awful monthhell, an awful yearfor Asian Americans.
dont get me wrong. I honestly dont have anything against coffebeanz and I feel bad for her and anyone else that has to face discrimination over this, just that comment was really lame. Calling them unrepentant dumbasses who are anti intellectual and stupid doesnt really work when I and Im sure others remember some of the callous stuff she was posting around when I first came here

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Touch
03/27/21 2:49:51 AM
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I love how this thread went from talking about antiasian hate to muh politics!!!!!!

Keep on keepin on CE

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cavalierking
03/27/21 3:20:30 AM
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not that this should even be controversial or surprising, but tc is proof that you don't have to be smart to be a doctor

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jon1012
03/27/21 3:34:56 AM
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DarkRoast posted...
For those that don't know, I'm half-Chinese. My brother looks considerably more Chinese than I do; I pretty much got everything from my dad, aside from brown (instead of blonde) hair. Pretty much nobody would even guess I'm half-Asian based on my looks.

But my brother has dealt with discrimination his whole life, and it's really starting to get to me because he always passes it off as "no big deal."

Except it is. It's a huge deal. It's NOT cool that people say shit like "I bet you play piano all the time" or "go back to where you came from." Particularly because I'm literally the same amount of Chinese as he is, yet they let me off the hook solely because of looks. He doesn't deserve it - we are born and raised here in the United States. We're Americans. The fact that I had to comfort my mother every time Trump and his supporters called COVID19 the "Chinese Virus," which resulted in passive-aggressive treatment from the conservatives in her neighborhood, is just distressing.

I'm in a very unique situation as someone who would be called a "white person" by a passerby, but I live in a Chinese family and I know our customs and lifestyle. I know how we're judged, and how we're portrayed by the media. Yet I also know what it's like to not be on the receiving end of those judgments. And it's wrong. It's ****ing ridiculous, Republicans. Grow the fuck up.

im curious to see what you and your brother look like

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DarkRoast
03/27/21 3:44:03 AM
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ultimate reaver posted...
dont get me wrong. I honestly dont have anything against coffebeanz and I feel bad for her and anyone else that has to face discrimination over this, just that comment was really lame. Calling them unrepentant dumbasses who are anti intellectual and stupid doesnt really work when I and Im sure others remember some of the callous stuff she was posting around when I first came here

I don't have any excuses for my political beliefs before my change in philosophy, suffice it to say that the gop/conservative misinformation echo chamber is much larger, and more convincing than anyone can truly understand. Extracting myself from it and looking back, I have no excuses for the crazy things I believed. It's sort of like leaving a cult and looking back on it. Republicans, and certainly the modern ones, are sustained by a complex, comprehensive flood of misinformation and heavily biased media that distort their viewpoints in ways that make them more palatable than they should be.

The fact that a large percentage of Republicans weren't immediately appalled and disgusted by Trump's post-election insanity is a testament to how truly f***** up the GOP misinformation echo chamber really is. Literally every conspiracy they had was debunked within minutes, but the truth didn't matter to them, just the fire hosing.

But really, it was simply analyzing all the other viewpoints they had through a lens not distorted by that misinformation echo chamber that made me realize how deplorable and disgusting they really are. On virtually every issue. They sanitize their viewpoints with buzz words and dog whistling, but in reality they are an extreme party run by racists and paranoid conspiracy theorists.

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Kaiganeer
03/27/21 4:11:59 AM
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ye, it's fucked up how much hate asians of any descent and straight white men are getting right now
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2Pacavelli
03/27/21 4:48:00 AM
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DarkRoast posted...
People can change, if they're willing to accept they're wrong.

It took the GOP wandering into my lane and fucking it up beyond all comprehension for me to finally accept that their anti-expertise, anti-intellectual rhetoric is dangerous dumbassery in the highest order.

Smh you were cool with their shittines until they stayed attacking you specifically?

That's the main problem with America. People are cool with its evil until it starts effecting them specifically
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nfearurspecimn
03/27/21 4:54:15 AM
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I feel bad for making fun of Asian culture as a kid. It's just so normalized. It's pretty awful.

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DarkRoast
03/27/21 9:23:17 AM
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2Pacavelli posted...
Smh you were cool with their shittines until they stayed attacking you specifically?

That's the main problem with America. People are cool with its evil until it starts effecting them specifically

That's the thing. You don't see it, either. Misinformation is propaganda. The fundamental mistake Democrats make regarding Republican voters is the assumption that Republican voters have access to the same information. They don't. Republicans literally live in a different information reality.

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Squall28
03/27/21 9:31:23 AM
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I'm full Asian and I'm more like your brother.

Person:*says racist shit*
Me:Ok *walks away*

What's getting me though is the targeting of the elderly. That shit is cowardly and disgraceful.

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Machete
03/27/21 9:32:57 AM
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Dark_SilverX posted...
Our political actors and actresses are enjoying the show they created. The political theater is so perfect enough that you can't even say both sides anymore.

Anybody of Asian decent, and people who look similar need to becareful being outside and watch surroundings at all time.

It's extremely obvious what has happened to the country.


What happened to this country can be summed up in 2 words... donald trump
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Shadow Don
03/27/21 9:38:22 AM
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Touch posted...
I love how this thread went from talking about antiasian hate to muh politics!!!!!!

Keep on keepin on CE

Because the sudden increase of anti-asian hate this last year stemmed entirely from a political situation.

I'm curious TC when did you switch? Did you vote for trump in 2016?

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Holy_Cloud105
03/27/21 9:38:57 AM
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Machete posted...
What happened to this country can be summed up in 2 words... donald trump
This has been a long time coming. Trump just made it okay to be more brazen about it. I was being called a terrorist and sand n word for years after 9/11. I still get called that and my family isn't even from the middle east, I was born here and I'm not Muslim. Let's also not forget how black Americans have been treated for even longer.

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Ruvan22
03/27/21 9:40:19 AM
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cuh posted...
I dont appreciate the people here not accepting former right wing people. If youre a white person doing that, stop. Your job is to help get more people to the left. Talk to your parents and grandparents and get them out of that mindset. If your family is still right wing you can still do more, and you can start by not bashing others for growing and changing their mindsets.

Sorry I know this sounds a bit heated. I dont know TC but I didnt vibe with the responses I read.

Completely this!! Why the gut reaction to condemning someone forever instead of accepting their positive change and moving on?

It's been a while since I've had any direct racism pointed at me (despite living in Georgia), maybe because I'm Indian subcontinent Asian. Still my nephew and niece are young (four and two) and mixed and I really don't want them to face a lot of the subtle racism me and my sister experienced.
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Machete
03/27/21 9:42:06 AM
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Holy_Cloud105 posted...

This has been a long time coming. Trump just made it okay to be more brazen about it. I was being called a terrorist and sand n word for years after 9/11. I still get called that and my family isn't even from the middle east, I was born here and I'm not Muslim.


I have no proof that trump wasn't responsible for it back tben either . He just wasn't at the same level of public figure as he is now.
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ThyCorndog
03/27/21 9:42:16 AM
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well, I for one am always glad to see someone leave the GOP. all people deserve redemption and being a republican isn't exactly the worst thing someone can do. these overreactions are uncalled for but I guess everyone's entitled to their opinions

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SwiggitySwoogit
03/27/21 9:46:29 AM
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Strong disagree. If you side with the GOP after they made the COVID response worse costing thousands of lives or after Jan 6 with their failed terrorist coup then a strong reaction is not unwarranted.
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Garioshi
03/27/21 9:46:51 AM
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MildEnergy posted...
You will be back to voting R soon enough.

All it will take is some dude who pretends not to like Trump and you will be voting for him
Shut the fuck up

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Squall28
03/27/21 9:47:12 AM
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People over here acting like DarkRoast killed their first born

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DeathDeathSong
03/27/21 9:54:24 AM
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DarkRoast posted...
It took the GOP wandering into my lane
maybe its cause im a bipoc so i actually experience racism and shit but its so fucked how some people are perfectly content with how republicans operate until it personally effects them

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ledbowman
03/27/21 9:55:54 AM
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so now do you believe christine blasey ford

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SwiggitySwoogit
03/27/21 9:56:23 AM
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DeathDeathSong posted...
maybe its cause im a bipoc so i actually experience racism and shit but its so fucked how some people are perfectly content with how republicans operate until it personally effects them

For some people, the blatant disregard of decency and human life is a moot point.
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TommyG663513
03/27/21 10:10:30 AM
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MildEnergy posted...
Remember when TC used to be an obnoxious right winger

I attacked her views pretty often and I don't know if I'd call her a right winger exactly. She just seemed to really detest a lot of left wing people.

I had her labeled as a "I'm not a Trump supporter, but...."

But yeah she changed her tune to be pretty anti Trump roughly a year ago when Trump's covid response was such utter garbage and very significantly effected her personally.

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DarkRoast
03/27/21 10:12:19 AM
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Shadow Don posted...
Because the sudden increase of anti-asian hate this last year stemmed entirely from a political situation.

I'm curious TC when did you switch? Did you vote for trump in 2016?

No I voted for the libertarian candidate, which was in retrospect a terrible idea

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The_Creep_2020
03/27/21 10:23:32 AM
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Holy shit, individuals can change their political views over time, people.

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TommyG663513
03/27/21 10:28:29 AM
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The_Creep_2020 posted...
Holy shit, individuals can change their political views over time, people.

A lot of left wing people are determined to get lost with infighting and don't at all seem to understand the greater issues at play.

This topic is an insanely obvious example of it.

People should be thankful that Dark Roast is one more ally rather than trying to complain about her last, but look at what this topic turned into very quickly.

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EndOfDiscOne
03/27/21 10:30:14 AM
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So do liberals not want conservatives to change their views, or

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Machete
03/27/21 10:30:42 AM
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TommyG663513 posted...


A lot of left wing people are determined to get lost with infighting and don't at all seem to understand the greater issues at play.

This topic is an insanely obvious example of it.

People should be thankful that Dark Roast is one more ally rather than trying to complain about her last, but look at what this topic turned into very quickly.


I disagree with them for doing that.
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CyricZ
03/27/21 10:35:11 AM
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TommyG663513 posted...
People should be thankful
This is the attitude that needs to be put aside.

And I realize these are not DarkRoast's words and you're attempting to speak for her (which is its own issue), but demanding gratitude for base-level empathy is arrogant.

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Anteaterking
03/27/21 11:07:25 AM
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CyricZ posted...
This is the attitude that needs to be put aside.

And I realize these are not DarkRoast's words and you're attempting to speak for her (which is its own issue), but demanding gratitude for base-level empathy is arrogant.

Don't you know the rules Cyric? Growth is always more important than being right in the first place.

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AvlButtslam
03/27/21 11:10:00 AM
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This topic derailed so hard in an effort to deflect from and ignore the actual topics of racism and discrimination.
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