Poll of the Day > Anti-Vaxx Family now WANT the VACCINES after their 47 y/o GRANDMOTHER Died!!!

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The family of beloved grandmother, 47 y/o Fernanda Vega died last week from COVID-19 have now RECONSIDERED their anti-vax stance and now WANT the shots!!

She's a mother of and grandmother of TEN, and is a longtime healthcare worker who died on July 13th from the virus

Her grieving husband, Ysmael is now looking to get their entire family vaccinated after previously refusing to do so due to anti-vax sentiments on the side effects

He tells Fox 10, "With what i have experienced, i don't want to go through this again. I do not"

He said she was the rock of this family and everybody went to her for everything as they relied on her a lot

Ysmael himself is still recovering from the virus that he got weeks ago prior to his wife's death and it was in fact HIS diagonsis that SPREAD the virus in the household with both his 17 y/o son and wife catching it

Her symptoms got worse however thinking she was going to survive it and she was admitted to a local Phoenix hospital as they found a blood clot in her lungs with a weak pulse.

She died within an HOUR of arriving

Dr. Joshua LaBaer noted nearly all covid deaths now are among the unvaccinated and the number of new cases in Arizona has quadrupled as nearly half of America are still refusing the shots

Arizona used to see a rolling average of 500 cases per day but is now seeing 1000 cases a day with the US virus rate now rising

A Gofundme page was launched with now over 17,000 in donations.

Are you anti-vaxxer?

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gofundme page for what

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inb4 the people who claim to be the good guys in this situation come in to gloat over someone getting unlucky and dying

I didn't think the leopards would eat my face

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go ahead and give it to them

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there's a tim horton's near here and a guy apparently spends his days in the parking lot sitting in his car with a big badly written "VACCINE IS A BIO-WEAPON" sign in his windshield (aimed so that you have to see it from the drive through). (I'm only there in the evening and can never quite make out the whole thing, and there's a second sign with even smaller text that I can't read at all.)

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...47 y/o grandma? Geez >_< I guess the math isn't super-crazy, but that's still stupidly young... wait, she had ten grandkids at 47? Maybe that is super-crazy.

Reigning_King posted...

inb4 the people who claim to be the good guys in this situation come in to gloat over someone getting unlucky and dying

Yeah, it's disgusting.

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Sahuagin posted...

there's a tim horton's near here and a guy apparently spends his days in the parking lot sitting in his car with a big badly written "VACCINE IS A BIO-WEAPON" sign in his windshield (aimed so that you have to see it from the drive through). (I'm only there in the evening and can never quite make out the whole thing, and there's a second sign with even smaller text that I can't read at all.)

If they wanted to use a Bio-Weapon on us they could just put shit in the water supplies. Acting like the government or these companies have to plan a long term hoax on Covid just to put a bio-weapon into us is dumber than the stupid shit 9/11 truthers believe.

She already had 10 grand kids at 47?
Cripes, Idiocracy is already a documentary...

Reigning_King posted...

inb4 the people who claim to be the good guys in this situation come in to gloat over someone getting unlucky and dying

pretty sure people encouraging vaccines would have wanted them to be vaccinated long ago, preventing this entirely,

Oops almost forgot who I was responding to


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Zeus posted...

...47 y/o grandma? Geez >_< I guess the math isn't super-crazy, but that's still stupidly young... wait, she had ten grandkids at 47? Maybe that is super-crazy.

It's unusual, but not that implausible. To pull some hypothetical numbers out of nowhere, if she had her first kid at 20, having 4 by 25 is pretty feasible. Four children between the ages of 22 and 27 could pretty easily have produced a combined 10 grandchildren, since that's 2-3 each.

Again, that is indeed quite unusual, but it doesn't actually require any teen pregnancies at all to pull off, which is where I'd personally draw the line for "super-crazy."

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Reigning_King posted...

the people who claim to be the good guys

AKA all people

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Never was one.

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streamofthesky posted...

She already had 10 grand kids at 47?
Cripes, Idiocracy is already a documentary...

It depends on how many kids she had. For example, If she had 10 kids at a rate of one kid a year starting at age 17 the youngest would be 20 by now. Its plausible then that all 10 had one child.

Reigning_King posted...

inb4 the people who claim to be the good guys in this situation come in to gloat over someone getting unlucky and dying

Do you complain about victim blaming when someone who drives drunk dies in a car crash, too?

By current statistics, her death was 99% preventable. The biggest tragedy here is that a 47 year old could be so ignorant. Glad her family has chosen to learn from this.

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Reigning_King posted...

inb4 the people who claim to be the good guys in this situation come in to gloat over someone getting unlucky and dying

Gloat? No. That would be stupid and pointless. Be glad that her family has taken something positive from this tragedy by learning from her mistake? Yes. This was completely preventable, and while it would be better if it had been prevented, the next-best outcome is for everyone involved to learn from it and prevent it from happening again.

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adjl posted...

This was completely preventable

Oh, so now the vaccines are 100% effective? Huh, I guess you know more than the CDC and the people making them since none of them make that claim.

Damn, she looks good for her age.
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Reigning_King posted...

Oh, so now the vaccines are 100% effective?

If you round to the nearest whole percentage point, which is a pretty reasonable thing to do to save precious syllables in lazy colloquial speech. If that bothers you, you can mentally prepend the word "almost" to "completely" and improve the precision.

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Reigning_King posted...

Oh, so now the vaccines are 100% effective? Huh, I guess you know more than the CDC and the people making them since none of them make that claim.

He never said anything about 100% but its good to see you jump to a bad faith argument that quickly.

At this point in the pandemic, deaths are occurring almost exclusively amongst the unvaccinated.

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adjl posted...

If you round to the nearest whole percentage point, which is a pretty reasonable thing to do to save precious syllables in lazy colloquial speech. If that bothers you, you can mentally prepend the word "almost" to "completely" and improve the precision.

So they aren't 100% effectively and don't guarantee someone won't contract or die from covid, got it. You should word your posts more carefully to avoid spreading misinformation on this very important topic, lives are on the line you know.

kangolcone posted...

He never said anything about 100%

adjl posted...

This was completely preventable

Maybe read the relevant posts before inserting yourself into a reply chain next time.

Oh you're the guy who advocates for violence and harrassment over discussion in your sig, I shouldn't have even bothered to give you a serious reply.

Reigning_King posted...

So they aren't 100% effectively and don't guarantee someone won't contract or die from covid, got it.

adjl posted...

If that bothers you, you can mentally prepend the word "almost" to "completely" and improve the precision.

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I shouldn't have to mentally cover over your misinformation, you shouldn't have posted it in the first place. Other people skimming the topic might have been tricked by it if I hadn't called you out. The right thing for you to do would be to edit the post yourself.

Also I'll call you out on your "w-w-well if you round up a percent..." bs because that isn't true either.

Reigning_King posted...

Maybe read the relevant posts before inserting yourself into a reply chain next time.

I know you are a troll engaging in bad faith arguments for reasons unknown, but engaging in pedantic arguments doesnt really make a strong case. It just kind of makes you look like a goof who cant respond to the topic so you pick word choice.

For the record since February, 9000 people have died in Texas from Covid. 43 were fully vaccinated.

Ill have to be on the lookout now, knowing how hard of a time you have understanding minor hyperbole.

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Reigning_King posted...

I shouldn't have to mentally cover over your misinformation, you shouldn't have posted it in the first place. Other people skimming the topic might have been tricked by it if I hadn't called you out. The right thing for you to do would be to edit the post yourself.

Also I'll call you out on your "w-w-well if you round up a percent..." bs because that isn't true either.

Your first sentence is a run-on. Please fix for clarity and accuracy.

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Reigning_King posted...

inb4 the people who claim to be the good guys in this situation come in to gloat over someone getting unlucky and dying

Excuse me sir. This sentence does not start with a capital letter and there is no punctuation. Please fix for clarity and accuracy.

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kangolcone posted...

Your first sentence is a run-on. Please fix for clarity and accuracy.

Comparing grammar to deliberately spreading fake news that could have lethal consequences? Yeah ok, I've confirmed exactly what kind of poster you are.

Reigning_King posted...

So they aren't 100% effectively and don't guarantee someone won't contract or die from covid, got it.

no one claimed this

stop looking for such stupid arguments

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Reigning_King posted...

So they aren't 100% effectively and don't guarantee someone won't contract or die from covid, got it. You should word your posts more carefully to avoid spreading misinformation on this very important topic, lives are on the line you know.

This post has multiple run sentences. Please fix for clarity and accuracy.


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Reigning_King posted...

Comparing grammar to deliberately spreading fake news that could have lethal consequences? Yeah ok, I've confirmed exactly what kind of poster you are.

Im not comparing anything. I didnt mention the other post in the post you quoted, at all, which would be required for comparison. Im simply asking that you use proper sentence structure around this topic. As you put it, lives are on the line (you missed a comma here) you know (and a question mark here)

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Reigning_King posted...

Also I'll call you out on your "w-w-well if you round up a percent..." bs because that isn't true either.

Being vaccinated reduces the risk of death by somewhere in the range of 99.5-99.7%. That rounds up to 100, even without considering that breakthrough deaths have been pretty much entirely restricted to people much older than 47 and that the risk reduction is even higher for her demographic.

Reigning_King posted...

I shouldn't have to mentally cover over your misinformation, you shouldn't have posted it in the first place. Other people skimming the topic might have been tricked by it if I hadn't called you out.

How's this, then: I would stake my own life on the belief that, had she been vaccinated, she would still be alive. In fact, I literally have, given that I'm relying on that same vaccine to protect me from such a fate. The odds of a fully vaccinated 47-year-old dying of Covid are so infinitesimally remote that I am as comfortable ignoring that possibility as I am ignoring the possibility that a meteor crashes into my house.

If you genuinely believe that my statement was misleading in any meaningful capacity, I invite you to provide evidence of the practical impact it might have had if not for your intervention. If not, you should really stop clinging so desperately to this apparent opportunity to pretend you're smarter than me. You're not fooling anyone, so it's really just embarrassing to watch. While you're at it, I advise that you stop trying to look for such opportunities. You simply don't know enough about the subject to ever find a real one.

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kangolcone posted...

As you put it, lives are on the line (you missed a comma here) you know (and a question mark here)

That doesn't need a question mark, actually. Depending on how it's being said, one might be appropriate, but given the phrasing here, it's not so much a matter of asking if I know as it is telling me that I should be considering something I already know.

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adjl posted...

That doesn't need a question mark, actually. Depending on how it's being said, one might be appropriate, but given the phrasing here, it's not so much a matter of asking if I know as it is telling me that I should be considering something I already know.

If hes phrasing it as something that you already are aware of, it should be as you know. Its usage is unclear and we must strive for absolutely clarity in all messages related to COVID-19. The very fact that you interpret the intonation of the last two words differently than I do illustrates the need for him to clean up the post.

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adjl posted...

opportunity to pretend you're smarter than me.

Well you're closer to the top than the bottom as far as poster on this board go but compared to me that still isn't enough so I wouldn't call it pretending. You see I'm the type of guy who only really offers his opinions and knowledge on subjects he's confident about. If I'm clueless about something, which I am on many things, I simply won't discuss it. Can you imagine how much better the world would be if everyone was like that?

Reigning_King posted...

Well you're closer to the top than the bottom as far as poster on this board go but compared to me that still isn't enough so I wouldn't call it pretending. You see I'm the type of guy who only really offers his opinions and knowledge on subjects he's confident about. If I'm clueless about something, which I am on many things, I simply won't discuss it. Can you imagine how much better the world would be if everyone was like that?

Your first sentence needs a comma after well and is a run-on sentence. Your second sentence needs a comma after You see and the word really is unnecessary. You either offer your opinions or you dont. Please fix for accuracy and clarity.

You havent engaged in this topic to offer any meaningful opinion or statement of substance. Instead, you repeatedly engage in bad faith arguments centered around pedantry.

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Reigning_King posted...

If I'm clueless about something, which I am on many things, I simply won't discuss it.

I have considerable reason to believe that's not true.

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Reigning_King posted...

inb4 the people who claim to be the good guys in this situation come in to gloat over someone getting unlucky and dying

that's me. hahahaha.

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