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UT1999
11/01/21 10:58:25 PM
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maybe you think he should not be punished harshly at all.

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SiO4
11/01/21 10:59:08 PM
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One with a question mark.
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BryanRust17
11/01/21 11:01:41 PM
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no he should get the book thrown at him.
It should be this book

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Flauros
11/01/21 11:03:37 PM
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ButteryMales
11/01/21 11:03:44 PM
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30 years.
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Machete
11/01/21 11:03:45 PM
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Life in prison
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Scintillant
11/01/21 11:03:53 PM
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100 years in jail.

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Solid Snake07
11/01/21 11:15:31 PM
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Depends what he's found guilty of. Sounds like a pretty solid case for self defense for the first guy he shot. The second two are a bit more complicated.

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CasualGuy
11/01/21 11:18:29 PM
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Not much of one.

You'd had to be incredibly dishonest to watch the video of what happened and think he went out of his way to kill those dudes. He tried running away from them and they chased him down to kill him.

He will and should get off pretty lightly. Being in the city at all was the biggest mistake he made.


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ButteryMales
11/01/21 11:23:03 PM
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CasualGuy posted...
You'd had to be incredibly dishonest to watch the video of what happened and think he went out of his way to kill those dudes.
People said the same thing about Derek Chauvin except not plural.
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CasualGuy
11/01/21 11:24:51 PM
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ButteryMales posted...
People said the same thing about Derek Chauvin except not plural.

We have video of his knee on his neck

And video of kyle running away and being chased down

Equating those events makes you

CasualGuy posted...
incredibly dishonest


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ButteryMales
11/01/21 11:27:53 PM
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CasualGuy posted...
We have video of his knee on his neck

And video of kyle killing two people and injuring a third.

Equating those events makes you
Woah, check out the honesty.
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creativerealms
11/01/21 11:29:21 PM
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CasualGuy posted...
Not much of one.

You'd had to be incredibly dishonest to watch the video of what happened and think he went out of his way to kill those dudes. He tried running away from them and they chased him down to kill him.

He will and should get off pretty lightly. Being in the city at all was the biggest mistake he made.
Any proof they were chasing him to kill him and not just get rid of him? He was the one the gun. A gun that was not his.

Yes I have seen the video and no I don't get the impression they wanted him dead.

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Hexenherz
11/01/21 11:35:15 PM
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I would be OK with paying another country to accept him
and then deporting him.

he would be able to return as a citizen afterwards but he would have to pay for his own way back.

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Ilishe
11/01/21 11:37:05 PM
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After watching the self-defense claim video I can't really blame this kid for much of what happened. Rosenbaum came after him and the guys who attacked him later were trying to kill him (one of them pulled out a handgun).

Is this video just a very favorable spin on the events by his lawyers? Iunno, but going solely by it, I don't see why he should be spending life in prison.

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Solid Snake07
11/01/21 11:38:04 PM
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creativerealms posted...
Any proof they were chasing him to kill him and not just get rid of him? He was the one the gun. A gun that was not his.

Yes I have seen the video and no I don't get the impression they wanted him dead.


The first guy he shot was absolutely being the aggressor and chasing him. And someone behind them fired a pistol off into the air. It is totally reasonable to be fearful for your life after being chased and hearing a gunshot from the direction you're being chased from.

The second two get into much murkier waters since it was complete chaos at that point.

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Solid Snake07
11/01/21 11:40:28 PM
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PyroBlade1985 posted...
That reminds me, anyone remember the "We got a Trumper over here" shooter. Was he ever caught?


In portland? Pretty sure he was either killed by the police in a shootout or killed himself

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Zikten
11/02/21 12:56:32 AM
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Life in prison. I dont believe in the death penalty, unlike Kyle
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Irony
11/02/21 12:59:13 AM
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One million years dungeon

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Umbreon
11/02/21 4:53:05 PM
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Death.

He won't, but it's what I think he should get.

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Stewman_Magoo
11/02/21 4:59:23 PM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
In portland? Pretty sure he was either killed by the police in a shootout or killed himself

He was executed by the state. Trump bragged about it at a rally.

Too bad because he would've gotten off on defense too.

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paerarru
11/02/21 5:56:30 PM
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CasualGuy posted...
Not much of one.

You'd had to be incredibly dishonest to watch the video of what happened and think he went out of his way to kill those dudes. He tried running away from them and they chased him down to kill him.

He literally went far, FAR out of his way to kill those dudes. He asked someone else to buy him a gun he should have never touched and went to another town to kill those dudes. It doesn't matter if the whole mob had rushed him. At that moment he's already a criminal and every shot he fires is aggravating his crime.

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JBaLLEN66
11/02/21 10:14:13 PM
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not guilty

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JBaLLEN66
11/02/21 10:14:57 PM
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totalnerdken posted...
Ok, let's put this in another context and say if you still hold this position.

If a woman is about to be assaulted by a group trying to cause her harm, and she had an illegally acquired weapon to defend herself, would she still deserve jail time for killing a few of the attackers? Would you say that she never should have been there?

Because both of those are a horrible way to think about that.

The fault is 100% on the aggressors. You don't blame to woman for defending herself with an illegal firearm. You can charge her for having it, but that's an entirely separate crime. Has nothing to do with her defending herself with it.

We should just submit our body to the aggressor according to them

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paerarru
11/03/21 12:31:21 AM
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totalnerdken posted...


If a woman is about to be assaulted by a group trying to cause her harm, and she had an illegally acquired weapon to defend herself, would she still deserve jail time for killing a few of the attackers? Would you say that she never should have been there?

I don't know, is the woman a 17 year old wannabe cop who asked someone else to get them that gun so that she could travel 20 miles to a riot and chase rioters around with it? Because once she's done all that she's no longer "defending herself"... SHE'S A DANGEROUS KILLER ON THE LOOSE! So your answer is yes, she should have never been there and her even just firing upon ANYBODY, whether they are attacking her or not is attempted murder.

See what you don't understand is that the fact that he was carrying that gun around is not what makes his killing murder. The fact that he was carrying that gun around means that he was not fearful for his life, it means that he was not killing in self defense. It means that he was there as a vigilante, that is to say as A CRIMINAL, and not as some poor citizen who suddenly found themselves attacked. And THAT makes his killing murder.

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Houston
11/03/21 12:33:44 AM
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He should be found not guilty and then sue.

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Payzmaykr
11/03/21 12:38:56 AM
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When is the verdict expected to be known?

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Pogo_Marimo
11/03/21 12:43:27 AM
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paerarru posted...
I don't know, is the woman a 17 year old wannabe cop who asked someone else to get them that gun so that she could travel 20 miles to a riot and chase rioters around with it? Because once she's done all that she's no longer "defending herself"... SHE'S A DANGEROUS KILLER ON THE LOOSE! So your answer is yes, she should have never been there and her even just firing upon ANYBODY, whether they are attacking her or not is attempted murder.

See what you don't understand is that the fact that he was carrying that gun around is not what makes his killing murder. The fact that he was carrying that gun around means that he was not fearful for his life, it means that he was not killing in self defense. It means that he was there as a vigilante, that is to say as A CRIMINAL, and not as some poor citizen who suddenly found themselves attacked. And THAT makes his killing murder.
The shit you people make up about the law is astounding. Just a really, REALLY basic fact check here: The fact that he was allegedly illegally open carrying a gun does not disqualify his right to self-defense in WI. The prosecution is certainly not going to be arguing that.

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shnangyboos
11/03/21 12:49:37 AM
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Pogo_Marimo posted...
The shit you people make up about the law is astounding. Just a really, REALLY basic fact check here: The fact that he was allegedly illegally open carrying a gun does not disqualify his right to self-defense in WI. The prosecution is certainly not going to be arguing that.


No one who argues against self-defense can do so without bullshitting, lying, or pretending the have some legal knowledge that's actually completely wrong. And they're usually champions of facts and truth.

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runewalshPSiv
11/03/21 12:52:23 AM
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CasualGuy posted...
Not much of one.

You'd had to be incredibly dishonest to watch the video of what happened and think he went out of his way to kill those dudes. He tried running away from them and they chased him down to kill him.

He will and should get off pretty lightly. Being in the city at all was the biggest mistake he made.


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Norman_Smiley
11/03/21 12:58:23 AM
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Not guilty on all charges except possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18, guilty of that, $10k fine, 9 months (max sentence), minus time served.


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SK8T3R215
11/03/21 1:41:54 AM
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Norman_Smiley posted...
Not guilty on all charges except possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18, guilty of that, $10k fine, 9 months (max sentence), minus time served.

This is what will happen and CE will have a melty.

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Pogo_Marimo
11/03/21 10:29:49 AM
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shnangyboos posted...
No one who argues against self-defense can do so without bullshitting, lying, or pretending the have some legal knowledge that's actually completely wrong. And they're usually champions of facts and truth.
https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/939/iii/48

Statutes are public knowledge, and unlike most people in these topics I've at least actually read them. "Criminal Activity" does not invalidate self-defense, it only invalidates Stand Your Ground. Given that Kyle was actively running away from all four actors and attempted to use threats instead of violence on multiple occasions while fleeing, Stand Your Ground is not a component of the defense.

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ZMythos
11/03/21 6:05:35 PM
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I should buy a firearm illegally, open carry it in downtown milwaukee, point it at a cop, then shoot him while he draws his weapon on me since I felt threatened and can then claim self defense.

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skermac
11/03/21 6:06:44 PM
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If he is convicted I think he should get max sentence allowed by law

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Lordgold666
11/03/21 6:12:22 PM
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BryanRust17 posted...
It should be this book
Isnt wishing rape on prisoners against the tos??

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Ratchetrockon
11/03/21 6:13:02 PM
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life

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SK8T3R215
11/03/21 6:14:51 PM
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ZMythos posted...
I should buy a firearm illegally, open carry it in downtown milwaukee, point it at a cop, then shoot him while he draws his weapon on me since I felt threatened and can then claim self defense.

Good life hack to get charged with murder.

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Esrac
11/03/21 6:16:14 PM
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paerarru posted...
I don't know, is the woman a 17 year old wannabe cop who asked someone else to get them that gun so that she could travel 20 miles to a riot and chase rioters around with it? Because once she's done all that she's no longer "defending herself"... SHE'S A DANGEROUS KILLER ON THE LOOSE! So your answer is yes, she should have never been there and her even just firing upon ANYBODY, whether they are attacking her or not is attempted murder.

See what you don't understand is that the fact that he was carrying that gun around is not what makes his killing murder. The fact that he was carrying that gun around means that he was not fearful for his life, it means that he was not killing in self defense. It means that he was there as a vigilante, that is to say as A CRIMINAL, and not as some poor citizen who suddenly found themselves attacked. And THAT makes his killing murder.

This post sounds a little unhinged.
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ZMythos
11/03/21 6:19:32 PM
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SK8T3R215 posted...
Good life hack to get charged with murder.
Exactly.

So why would someone who crossed state lines to illegally acquire a gun, threaten people with it, and proceed to shoot them when they retaliate not get charged with murder?

And actively open carrying a rifle past curfew during a high-tension protest is unarguably threatening. You are effectively communicating "I am here when I shouldn't be with a gun I shouldn't have because I am planning to use it at some point."

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Yazarogi
11/03/21 6:22:01 PM
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kyle rittenhouse fled the scene of a crime, while he was still there no one was attacking him. When he fled the scene, they tried to stop him, a citizens arrest if you will, he then proceeded to kill another human being, and cripple another.

Kyle Rittenhouse is a murderer who wanted to kill people that night, and he got his wish under the guise of "self defense"

it's not self defense if you're the aggressor, which he clearly was.

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BlingBling22947
11/03/21 7:35:49 PM
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Consider this case beaten then.

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