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HylianFox 11/21/21 6:02:43 PM #151: |
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Punished_Blinx 11/21/21 6:05:39 PM #152: |
LinkPizza posted...
That's if it is straining the relationship at all in the first place... The article says, "he uses them to zone out for many hours at a time. They are also used to avoid intimacy emotionally and sexually." But that's not always the case. I play many hours at a time because I bored with nothing to do, and the video games are fun. But it doesn't stop my intimacy with my BF. One time, I was playing and he came up behind me and started kissing. And when I went to move my switch, he pulled it back and told me to keep playing... It just depends... In this article it clearly is straining the relationship so your story here isn't relevant. LinkPizza posted... And the reason I focus on whether it's excessive or not is because that is a main problem. This article isn't just for the person who wrote in, but everyone. And many of those people probably won't know what excessive means. That will say a couple hours is excessive, when it's may not be for their SO... Compromising is a way of finding a solution. So, if they actually tried that and it doesn't work, then leave. But at least they tried in that scenario. Which is what I said earlier. At least try to find a solution... That said, playing a lot doesn't mean that he's prioritizing games over her. It just means he's playing a lot. I play a ton, but don't prioritize games over my BF. I have played games nearly all day before without it being a problem... And stuff like mortgages and child-rearing is a whole different ballpark, anyway. Even if they agree on most things, they may totally disagree with how to raise a child. Or they may disagree on most thing, but agree on how to raise a child... That, of course, depends on the parents... Most people know what excessive means. I play a lot of video games too but I don't prioritize them over my relationship or my wife's feelings. So it's not a source of conflict. You're arguing against things no one is saying. If it's impacting the relationship it's impacting the relationship. She feels like he's spending too much time playing and it's impacting how she views him. If she's being unfair that's still an issue with that relationship. Chances are most people who read this article know what is being talked about. Most young men play video games now. LinkPizza posted... A relationship isn't a problem to solve, but will usually have some problems to solve. Living together is not something that's easily done by most people. You're changing you whole life around... And I agree that compromises need to be made. But that is a form of problem solving, which I said was needed earlier... And again, just because he fits the signs doesn't mean he's not a goof fit for her. It depends on more than they fit those signs. Why they fit those signs are important. Like the stuff I described in my first post in this topic... The original letter was from a woman who showed her boyfriend how to use the washing machine several times and he still doesn't know. Is that not her trying to solve the problem? Is that not an alarm bell that maybe he just doesn't want to learn and wants her to do it for him? If she doesn't want to tolerate those signs (and most people would not) and he's not willing to improve then no he's not a good fit. Most of these signs aren't hobbies or character quirks. They're specifically manipulative and irresponsible behavior that creates a specific dynamic for the entire relationship. --- A Fallen Mascot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hoodroar 11/21/21 6:07:33 PM #153: |
Conflict posted...
If he doesn't know, then it's not weaponized. She's clearly talking about a very specific type of behavior I'm saying behavior is possibly being presumptively misinterpreted here. --- ~ HR ~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lost_All_Senses 11/21/21 6:07:35 PM #154: |
OpWarpSpeed posted...
This has to be a joke post. Drinking is legal (for those of age) and less dangerous than weed. The irony. --- Name checks out "I don't wanna be the toughest, I just keep it 100 and think nothin of it"- Black Thought ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heartomaton 11/21/21 6:11:01 PM #155: |
OpWarpSpeed posted...
Drinking is less dangerous than weed. Whatever you say, pony avatar. --- https://www.youtube.com/user/Heartomaton Heartomaton for President 2028. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 11/21/21 6:12:08 PM #156: |
Hoodroar posted...
I'm saying behavior is possibly being presumptively misinterpreted here.The behavior of the boyfriend the writer described is being misinterpreted? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ving_Rhames 11/21/21 6:17:39 PM #157: |
OpWarpSpeed posted...
This has to be a joke post. Drinking is legal (for those of age) and less dangerous than weed. ![]() --- the real Irving Rameses https://imgur.com/A7f6F9h ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OpWarpSpeed 11/21/21 6:31:14 PM #158: |
Ving_Rhames posted...
OpWarpSpeed posted...This has to be a joke post. Drinking is legal (for those of age) and less dangerous than weed. Why is my karma relevant to this discussion? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkDaLunatic 11/21/21 6:39:04 PM #159: |
as expected of someone with a pony avatar
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LinkPizza 11/21/21 6:40:40 PM #160: |
Punished_Blinx posted...
In this article it clearly is straining the relationship so your story here isn't relevant. Is it, though? Because I haven't seen any proof of that. So, until there is proof of that, it's about as relevant as anything else... It's just one of a few things she mentioned. And no actually information on it... Punished_Blinx posted... Most people know what excessive means. I play a lot of video games too but I don't prioritize them over my relationship or my wife's feelings. So it's not a source of conflict. You're arguing against things no one is saying. You think they know what it means, but they only know what it means for them. With my current BF, my hours of gaming aren't excessive to him or to me... But it's possible another person would disagree with that and consider it excessive. The problem is who's right about excessive. Which goes back to excessive is different for everybody... What's excessive for one person isn't excessive for another... And I'm disagreeing with things you're saying... And chances are, they don't know what excessive means. They only think excessive to them. And women account for about 45% of gamers in the US. So, it's probably the same the other way around, too... Punished_Blinx posted... The original letter was from a woman who showed her boyfriend how to use the washing machine several times and he still doesn't know. Is that not her trying to solve the problem? Is that not an alarm bell that maybe he just doesn't want to learn and wants her to do it for him? Which is actually weird considering he was apparently doing it before well enough to live... That's why I said it's probably something else going on if he's not doing it now... Or she's exaggerating and he knows how, but just doesn't do it often. Or he doesn't know how to wash her clothes. Or he knows how to do it, but she meant that he doesn't do it fast enough. Because he was apparently doing it before he met her... So maybe she should ask him about that? Like ask him how was he doing it before of something... Because something has to be going on in that case... And I disagree with what you said. I think most would try to solve the problem instead of leaving at the first sign of trouble... Signs aren't the reason to immediately leave someone. They are things to consider. But in many cases, you should see if there is some reason that something changed... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Phantom36 11/21/21 6:40:51 PM #161: |
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Punished_Blinx 11/21/21 6:47:12 PM #163: |
LinkPizza posted...
Is it, though? Because I haven't seen any proof of that. So, until there is proof of that, it's about as relevant as anything else... It's just one of a few things she mentioned. And no actually information on it... She's writing to a relationship expert? Do people do that if they're happy? LinkPizza posted... You think they know what it means, but they only know what it means for them. With my current BF, my hours of gaming aren't excessive to him or to me... But it's possible another person would disagree with that and consider it excessive. The problem is who's right about excessive. Which goes back to excessive is different for everybody... What's excessive for one person isn't excessive for another... And I'm disagreeing with things you're saying... And chances are, they don't know what excessive means. They only think excessive to them. And women account for about 45% of gamers in the US. So, it's probably the same the other way around, too... Unless you or your boyfriend wrote the letter it's not about you. The letter says he spends a lot of time on the couch playing video games. Excessive was used in the list. Again I have said several times now that if video game playing is something they can't find a common ground with anyway it's probably not going to work. LinkPizza posted... Which is actually weird considering he was apparently doing it before well enough to live... That's why I said it's probably something else going on if he's not doing it now... Or she's exaggerating and he knows how, but just doesn't do it often. Or he doesn't know how to wash her clothes. Or he knows how to do it, but she meant that he doesn't do it fast enough. Because he was apparently doing it before he met her... So maybe she should ask him about that? Like ask him how was he doing it before of something... Because something has to be going on in that case... His Mom probably did it for him. That's generally the situation with these guys. I feel like I'm talking in circles here. These are not 'first signs of trouble' I also don't know why you're spinning in circles trying to find a reason that the letter is wrong. Who cares? What difference does it make? If what she's saying is true then yeah he's probably not being a proper adult in a relationship. If she's lying then the advice is for a false pretense anyway. But do you think guys like this don't exist or can't be blamed for anything? It's weird. --- A Fallen Mascot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 11/21/21 7:04:33 PM #165: |
Punished_Blinx posted...
She's writing to a relationship expert? Do people do that if they're happy? Probably... Or just asking questions. I don't know how old this person is or how many relationships they've had. So, I couldn't tell you. It's vague because it's suppose to be anonymous... So, other than the things she mentioned, who knows how happy she is in the relationship. I mean, she still hasn't broken up with him yet, so there's probably still something... Punished_Blinx posted... Unless you or your boyfriend wrote the letter it's not about you. I never said it was about me. I was using myself as an example, though. To show how excessive still means different things to different people. I thought that much would be obvious, though... And I know that the girl said a lot and the list said excessive. I've mentioned that multiple times, as well... Is there something new you'd like to add? Or are you just repeating what I said? And I never said they could make it work if they can't agree on video games. I said it would be best to compromise if they can. Or if they can finding the cause of the problem. If it can't be fixed, then they break up. Which I also said earlier... Punished_Blinx posted... His Mom probably did it for him. That's generally the situation with these guys. I would think that, but I feel she also would have mentioned that if that were the case. Not 100%, but chances are high she would have... And all it says are 12 signs. She could mean first signs or not. But that's all it says about them... All I've been saying is I don't agree with the letter. That's been my point since the very first post on mine... The very first sentence of my post was, "I dont really agree with this author." And then I gave my reasons why... Then you mentioned "excessive" and I mentioned my thoughts on that. That's all. Why does it matter that I disagree? I never said they couldn't be blamed, either. That's why I said it depends on the reasons for everything. Because certain reasons can change why things are like they are... That's the whole point... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 11/21/21 7:05:43 PM #166: |
Conflict posted...
The vast majority of the list is about how being irresponsible, lashing out and unwilling to learn how to do things are ultimately manchild traits. How CE takes this much offense to what mostly amounts to common sense is both baffling and not baffling at the same time.Scanned the topic and I believe I've picked the #1 post. --- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Punished_Blinx 11/21/21 7:09:48 PM #167: |
LinkPizza posted...
I never said it was about me. I was using myself as an example, though. To show how excessive still means different things to different people. I thought that much would be obvious, though... If neither you or your partner have an issue with video game playing then neither of you see it as excessive so it's not relevant for a person who does. For some people going out to bars every night is excessive and would cause issues while for others it wouldn't. Saying "Well it's not an issue in my relationship" says absolutely nothing. Not every relationship is the same. LinkPizza posted... And I never said they could make it work if they can't agree on video games. I said it would be best to compromise if they can. Or if they can finding the cause of the problem. If it can't be fixed, then they break up. Which I also said earlier... It's also only one of many problems. Do you not know how to work a washing machine and lay that responsibility on your partner? Do you ask your partner to pay rent for you? Do you constantly leave your partner to clean up your mess? The video games isn't a cause of the issues. It's brought up as an example of a partner who sounds to be lazy. If he's playing video games because he doesn't have anything to do these other issues wouldn't exist. LinkPizza posted... I would think that, but I feel she also would have mentioned that if that were the case. Not 100%, but chances are high she would have... You're really overthinking a letter looking for advice. It's not a math problem with a definitive answer. How can you disagree with a letter about a relationship you literally know nothing about other than this letter? It could also go the other way and there are countless more examples she didn't write. --- A Fallen Mascot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RoseLuck2X22462 11/21/21 7:14:27 PM #168: |
Post the list TC
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CyricZ 11/21/21 7:15:39 PM #169: |
RoseLuck2X22462 posted...
Post the list TChttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/79771060/960215282 --- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IronWolf87 11/21/21 7:17:00 PM #170: |
Don't worry about being a manchild, instead try to find a woman who has a fetish for taking care of a manchild.
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GiftedACIII 11/21/21 7:25:26 PM #171: |
There was a similar topic a few months ago called "Women say men who play video games are immature " that had a much more negative reaction than ITT lol. Including from some users like Background_Guy who had the exact opposite stance from this topic.
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LinkPizza 11/21/21 7:27:13 PM #172: |
Punished_Blinx posted...
If neither you or your partner have an issue with video game playing then neither of you see it as excessive so it's not relevant for a person who does. Except for the fact that excessive is different for every person, like I was saying. Even a lot is different for most people. The example was to show that it's not always the same. For me, it could change with a new BF. Maybe the new one doesn't like it as much. Maybe in his last relationship, this wasn't even a problem. So, for him, it's might not seem like a lot. But for her, it might seem like it is... And that's the point I'm trying to make. Every relationship is different. That's why I think reasons should be looked for first... Or solutions. Not to just leave based off the signs of an article like this... Punished_Blinx posted... It's also only one of many problems. Do you not know how to work a washing machine and lay that responsibility on your partner? Do you ask your partner to pay rent for you? Do you constantly leave your partner to clean up your mess? The video games isn't a cause of the issues. It's brought up as an example of a partner who sounds to be lazy. If he's playing video games because he doesn't have anything to do these other issues wouldn't exist. Some people cover each other's weak spots. I know many relationships where only one person cooks or does laundry. It's all about compromise. Sometimes, one partner is a homemaker for the other. Doing the cleaning and cooking. Sometimes, they split the responsibilities... But again, that why communication is key. Trying to find a solution instead of running right when one of these signs show up... And not necessarily. Maybe he's only playing video games when nothing else needs to be done. We don't know because we only have so much information to work with... Punished_Blinx posted... You're really overthinking a letter looking for advice. It's not a math problem with a definitive answer. I'm not overthinking the letter. I just don't agree with it. I have no reason to, either... And I'm disagreeing with the whole letter. Not the part that deals with their relationship. I think they should communicate and talk about it, because these seems like things you can talk about and figure out where to go from there. But I just disagree with the letter in general... And honestly, she should write those other countless examples. When you want help, you need to talk about everything. People can't help you when they don't know the whole problem... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Punished_Blinx 11/21/21 7:34:20 PM #173: |
It's a letter that's asking for advice. There's nothing to agree or disagree with. It's a weird take you read this letter and say stuff like "My boyfriend doesn't think my video game playing is excessive" or "Have you asked him how he used to wash his clothes?"
If he fits the Manchild signs list given to him then he's going to be difficult to talk to about this stuff and he likely won't change. If not then yeah maybe talking to him and working out will work. The bottom line was this; If you're dating a man like this and are thinking about getting married, think again. Marriage does not make a man child grow up. On the contrary, they tend to feel more entitled to do what they want and not develop themselves any further. If you like providing maid service and childcare to adults, this is a great option. If not, run for the hills! --- A Fallen Mascot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 11/21/21 7:41:59 PM #175: |
I read the bottom part, as well... And I still disagree... And yes, I can disagree. I just disagree with the advice given... It's really simple... I just don't agree... And I don't see it as a weird take at all... The video game stuff was just part of the things mentioned in the advice, so why would it be weird to mention why I don't agree with it. Also, if you think the point I was making was "My boyfriend doesn't think my video game playing is excessive" then you're being disingenuous. I mentioned multiple times that I was WAS USING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE. I capitalized to help you since you obviously aren't getting that. And for the "Have you asked him how he used to wash his clothes?" part, she should ask. Because something obviously changed. He was washing clothes, and now he's not. So, what changed? Communication is important for every relationships. But it doesn't seem like that's what's happening...
So, I don't agree. I think before saying someone fits the manchild list, they have to know the reasons behind why he fits in those categories. End result, I still disagree, and there's nothing weird about that... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Punished_Blinx 11/21/21 7:53:18 PM #176: |
LinkPizza posted...
The video game stuff was just part of the things mentioned in the advice, so why would it be weird to mention why I don't agree with it. Also, if you think the point I was making was "My boyfriend doesn't think my video game playing is excessive" then you're being disingenuous. I mentioned multiple times that I was WAS USING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE. Because she thinks it "He spends a lot of time on the couch playing video games and constantly leaves his clothes on the floor." and "I feel like he has done an age regression since we started dating. I feel like I am dating a child." Her feelings aren't just something you 'disagree' with. The letter isn't from your boyfriend. It's not about your relationship. Your example is meaningless. Even if you have the behavior of all 12 things here and your bf doesn't care it doesn't matter. It bothers her and that's what the advice needs to be focused on. LinkPizza posted... And for the "Have you asked him how he used to wash his clothes?" part, she should ask. Because something obviously changed. He was washing clothes, and now he's not. So, what changed? Communication is important for every relationships. But it doesn't seem like that's what's happening... Either;
LinkPizza posted... So, I don't agree. I think before saying someone fits the manchild list, they have to know the reasons behind why he fits in those categories. End result, I still disagree, and there's nothing weird about that... From the limited information he fits it because;
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ImperialScrolls 11/21/21 7:53:55 PM #177: |
lol imagine caring about the opinions of some hollywood pop-psychologist wh*t* w*m*n.
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GiftedACIII 11/21/21 7:59:18 PM #178: |
Conflict posted...
I mean that's understandable because that's actually a very ignorant statement. There's nothing wrong with playing video games, nor indulging in it for long periods of time. There is a problem in neglecting your relationship and your responsibilities because of excessive video game playing though That is true. It's just funny seeing them saying the same things in that topic the people they're opposing in this topic are saying including mocking the stereotypical interests women have. --- </topic> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 11/21/21 8:22:49 PM #179: |
Punished_Blinx posted...
Because she thinks it "He spends a lot of time on the couch playing video games and constantly leaves his clothes on the floor." and "I feel like he has done an age regression since we started dating. I feel like I am dating a child." Her feelings aren't just something you 'disagree' with. I never said I disagreed with her feelings. I said I disagree with the advice given in the letter. And Ive said it multiple times. If youre not going to read what I post, let me know I can stop wasting my time with you. I do disagree with how she seems to going about her relationship, but she can do whatever she wants. Either way, its not her feelings I disagree with. Its the letter. I dont know why you thought otherwise Punished_Blinx posted... The letter isn't from your boyfriend. It's not about your relationship. Your example is meaningless. Even if you have the behavior of all 12 things here and your bf doesn't care it doesn't matter. It bothers her and that's what the advice needs to be focused on. And I never said it was. The only person who keeps saying that I think that is YOU. Not me. I have literally said MULTIPLE times that I was using my relationship AS AN EXAMPLE. I dont how else to explain that to you. I can only do so much to explain that to you So, do you understand now? Or will I have to repeat myself a few more times before you understand something as simple as that? Punished_Blinx posted... Either; Its doesnt necessarily have to be either or. It could be something else. The problem is again, we only know so much about the relationship, and what she actually means And the reason I dont think she ask is the letter. Normally, when asking for help, you give some information. No information about how he did it before makes it sound like she doesnt know how she did it before. If I was asking for help, I would explain why Im asking for help Punished_Blinx posted... From the limited information he fits it because; And all those could have valid reasons behind them. - Maybe he version of a lot is different from his - Maybe she means something slightly different, or maybe theres something bf that change, like previously mentioned - Theres usually a reason for financial issues. So, there has to be a reason here, as well Has she asked to figure out where his money is going if not to rent? - Has she actually talked to him about this whole situation? Because if not, maybe she should So, until the reasons behind those are figured out, I dont think people should be put on the list --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nintendo_Porn 11/21/21 8:53:10 PM #180: |
LOL toxic trio - while i partake in two of the three, it's because i'm introverted, and will become irritable if i don't have space from the gf sometimes to recharge. Socializing is just draining for me, and she understands. I really don't wanna be like that when someone is being affectionate, so see no shame in not wanting to talk. Just...make it up to her/him later.
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codey 11/21/21 9:02:57 PM #181: |
Lol #8
"He gets stressed out and uses hobbies to distract from that" I just started a new career path in my 30s, which is already stressful enough, and the writing staff has been literally cut in half since I joined this summer. But I'm a man child because I find that stressful and am teaching myself how to draw and oil paint in my spare time to ease that stress! --- *runs out of topic naked* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dave_is_slick 11/21/21 9:10:21 PM #182: |
This topic is still going? Y'all don't have to respond to every stupid listicle you know.
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Nathaniel2018 11/21/21 9:16:57 PM #183: |
dave_is_slick posted...
This topic is still going? Y'all don't have to respond to every stupid listicle you know. Am actually surprise this topic got so many post :O ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Master Kazuya 11/21/21 9:17:51 PM #184: |
I think some points are fair. Like, your place shouldn't be a mess. It should be at least cleanly enough to not make people uncomfortable being there, like trash strewn about, nowhere to step, etc. Also the 'toxic trio' thing is a fair point too in the context of a relationship. If you're using video games, porn, and weed to avoid hanging with your gf, that's bad.
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Punished_Blinx 11/21/21 9:28:37 PM #185: |
LinkPizza posted...
I never said I disagreed with her feelings. I said I disagree with the advice given in the letter. And Ive said it multiple times. If youre not going to read what I post, let me know I can stop wasting my time with you. I do disagree with how she seems to going about her relationship, but she can do whatever she wants. Either way, its not her feelings I disagree with. Its the letter. I dont know why you thought otherwise What advice specifically? The letter was asking for help that she's in a relationship where she feels like she's dating a child so she's given a list of 12 signs that she's dating a manchild. LinkPizza posted... And I never said it was. The only person who keeps saying that I think that is YOU. Not me. I have literally said MULTIPLE times that I was using my relationship AS AN EXAMPLE. I dont how else to explain that to you. I can only do so much to explain that to you So, do you understand now? Or will I have to repeat myself a few more times before you understand something as simple as that? Examples need to be relevant to the conversation. Saying there are relationships where people are happy with people playing video games doesn't say much of anything about excessive game playing and lacking adult responsibility in a relationship. LinkPizza posted... Its doesnt necessarily have to be either or. It could be something else. The problem is again, we only know so much about the relationship, and what she actually means And the reason I dont think she ask is the letter. Normally, when asking for help, you give some information. No information about how he did it before makes it sound like she doesnt know how she did it before. If I was asking for help, I would explain why Im asking for help She did give information. She has told him several times how to do laundry and he doesn't remember. That information is enough. We don't need to figure out ways where she is wrong about this somehow. We don't need to imagine or learn some tragic backstory where the guy is incapable of doing laundry. LinkPizza posted... And all those could have valid reasons behind them. All of these reasons are ignoring that she literally feels like she is dating a child. All of her examples are tied to that feeling. Trying to spin it in a way where somehow this is a massive misunderstanding is weird to be quite frank. She's living with the guy. He does things that makes her feel like she has to take care of him. If it was one thing then yeah sure. But it's several things which have lead to her feeling the way that she does. Of course we don't know every single aspect of their relationship. We never do with these letters. There's no reason to make up random information that may possibly exist outside of the letter in order to invalidate what the person is writing about. You could do that with literally any letter like this. Is it possible a conversation will solve it? Sure. But it's also possible she's done that and the guy doesn't actually want to change. Nobody has enough information to automatically say she's dating a manchild. That's why she's given a list of 12 examples. Going by these handful of paragraphs he already fits a quarter of them. It's up to her to figure out if he fits the rest and what to do from there. --- A Fallen Mascot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 11/21/21 9:44:09 PM #186: |
Punished_Blinx posted...
What advice specifically? The letter was asking for help that she's in a relationship where she feels like she's dating a child so she's given a list of 12 signs that she's dating a manchild. Wrong letter? Again, the very first sentence of my first post (Post #104 since I guess you haven't seen it) literally says, "I dont really agree with this author." That is literally the first sentence. Do you understand now? And I won't agree... Punished_Blinx posted... Examples need to be relevant to the conversation. Saying there are relationships where people are happy with people playing video games doesn't say much of anything about excessive game playing and lacking adult responsibility in a relationship. And it was relevant to the conversation. You seem to think it wasn't for whatever reason... And the point wasn't that there were relationships where people are happy with people playing video games. That just proves you aren't really reading what I'm saying if that's all you got from it. The point was that excessive of a lot can mean different things to different people... Punished_Blinx posted... She did give information. She has told him several times how to do laundry and he doesn't remember. That information is enough. We don't need to figure out ways where she is wrong about this somehow. We don't need to imagine or learn some tragic backstory where the guy is incapable of doing laundry. It was vague information, which is not enough to actually go off of. I can say I go to work on a base. But with that information, you still wouldn't know where I work. Vague information can only give you so much. Which is why I said we need MORE information... And no, it's not enough to actually go off of... We barely know anything about the relationship... It wasn't even 10 sentences. You shouldn't be able to sum up an relationship in 10 seconds. Especially the problems... So, no. It was nowhere near enough information... Punished_Blinx posted... All of these reasons are ignoring that she literally feels like she is dating a child. All of her examples are tied to that feeling. Trying to spin it in a way where somehow this is a massive misunderstanding is weird to be quite frank. She's living with the guy. He does things that makes her feel like she has to take care of him. If it was one thing then yeah sure. But it's several things which have lead to her feeling the way that she does. Except no. All those reasons can't be ignored. Unless you just want to be a shitty SO and person... Trying to actually see if there's a problem for all of that would be better. Maybe there is something simple that can fix it. Or maybe she hasn't even communicated herself to him. Or maybe there's a bigger problem she doesn't know about... That's the thing. It seems like something changed, or else she probably wouldn't have started dating him in the first place. So, when did they change happened? And can you find out what caused it? And I'm not trying to spin it. We literally have barely any information. And have only heard one side, which is her side. And most people will tell a story to make them look like a good guy, and the other person as the problem... Sitcoms make fun of stuff like that, but it's something that's actually happens in real life. People sometimes paint themselves in a better light... And the thing is, I'm not making up random information. I've literally been saying we don't have enough information. Or it could be "blank" because we don't know... I'm giving alternatives, because we don't know. And maybe the conversation could work. But we have no idea if she's had it, or if she will even try... And again, I just don't agree with the list. I think the reason behind those 12 signs need to be explored before the author just says these mean he's a manchild... And I think you would need more than a quarter to actually qualify... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThyCorndog 11/21/21 10:00:09 PM #187: |
yall really still discussing this for nearly 200 posts
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cjsdowg 11/21/21 10:05:29 PM #188: |
darklink1017 posted...
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Ruvan22 11/21/21 11:13:47 PM #190: |
LinkPizza posted...
Wrong letter? Again, the very first sentence of my first post (Post #104 since I guess you haven't seen it) literally says, "I dont really agree with this author." That is literally the first sentence. Do you understand now? And I won't agree...Ok I'm new to this conversation with you but it definitely seems like you are making assumptions that benefit the guy... or more specifically downplay his faults. Why are you assuming she hasn't talked to him about these issues? Why do you assume he *was* doing his own laundry before? Why do you assume that because you explain why you need help everyone does? Why do you assume their definitions of 'excessive time playing video games' is the actual issue, and not him choosing to play them and avoid intimacy with her? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 11/21/21 11:30:06 PM #191: |
Ruvan22 posted...
Ok I'm new to this conversation with you but it definitely seems like you are making assumptions that benefit the guy... or more specifically downplay his faults. Why are you assuming she hasn't talked to him about these issues? Why do you assume he *was* doing his own laundry before? Why do you assume that because you explain why you need help everyone does? Why do you assume their definitions of 'excessive time playing video games' is the actual issue, and not him choosing to play them and avoid intimacy with her? I just giving alternatives instead of immediately jumping to manchild for the reason she listed. No assumptions, though The things is he may have faults, but there could be certain reasons for things happening the way they are. And again, were only hearing one side of the story here And the reason I dont think she has is she didnt mention it. Most people will tell you that communication is key in a relationship. So, I would think if she really wanted help, she would also mention something important like she tried talking with him Which is something you should probably try And the problem is WE DONt HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION. Which is what Ive been saying. We cant say that stuff one way or another. Thats the whole point --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veggeta_MAX 11/21/21 11:39:35 PM #192: |
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GMAK2442 11/21/21 11:42:41 PM #193: |
I've read a little. This sound Elitist :)
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Punished_Blinx 11/21/21 11:57:00 PM #194: |
LinkPizza posted...
No assumptions, though LinkPizza posted... And the reason I dont think she has is she didnt mention it. Most people will tell you that communication is key in a relationship. So, I would think if she really wanted help, she would also mention something important like she tried talking with him lol Again she said she tried to show him how to do laundry several times. I doubt she's picking up his clothes quietly. LinkPizza posted... And the problem is WE DONt HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION. Which is what Ive been saying. We cant say that stuff one way or another. Thats the whole point There is enough advice to give on the information provided. Again just to summarize;
We do not need to know his backstory for why he can't do laundry, how many specific hours he plays games or why he can't pay bills. We don't need to know why this is an issue now and if it was before or if it wasn't. We know the only thing that matters. That all of these things bother the person who wrote the letter and make her feel like he's a child. We do not need to know every single minute detail of a relationship. This isn't how dating advice works. If we went by your expectations here dating advice literally cannot be given to anyone unless we know both people equally and we know almost everything about them. That's not realistic. If the information provided is incomplete or false then she's getting advice that doesn't apply anyway and that's on her. It's not even super specific advice anyway and nothing changes at all with your questions. Assuming that the person asking for advice is somehow wrong is counter-productive. Veggeta_MAX posted... The question is are these red flag traits easily detectable or do you have to date a person for a while to notice these signs? A lot of them aren't really knowable until you live with the person. --- A Fallen Mascot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Discussions 11/21/21 11:58:10 PM #195: |
I'd argue more girls act like these 12 things than guys.
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LinkPizza 11/22/21 12:23:04 AM #196: |
Punished_Blinx posted...
lol It's not an assumption. It's a guess. I said think. Meaning I don't know for sure. So, how is that an assumption. And for the clothes, probably not. But we don't know for sure. Nor do we know her teaching methods, or if she actually means do laundry, or do laundry right... Punished_Blinx posted... There is enough advice to give on the information provided. No, there is not enough information. 9 sentences is barely enough to get the vague picture we have. We know he has a good sense of humor, a fun-loving spirit, likes to play video games, and leaves clothes around. We know she tends to be a serious Type A personality, whatever the hell that means. And that they've been living for together for about a year. And the few flaws she mentioned. Other than that, we know nothing. We don't know if she's talked to him about these things, or what she talked about exactly if she has. We don't know his side of the story, or what has caused some of these things if it's not normal behavior for him. We don't know where his money is going. There's so much that actually don't know... So even with these signs the GF gave, we only know a few of the outcomes. But we don't know what's causing these, or if it's normal behavior or not. And for the author of the article, we can't just classify any guy as a manchild without actually knowing the reasons for anything. FOR EXAMPLE, we don't know what's causing his financial problems. Maybe he's bad with money, or he's buying too many games, or maybe something happened at his job, or family issues. We don't have that info, so all we know is he's having trouble with is half of the rent. I think knowing that reason would decide whether of not the financial troubles make him a manchild... As one example... Those are things I'm talking about. Knowing more information on each thing would help to decide... And I'm not making up random things. I'm literally saying we don't have any information, and anything could be causing these. You guys are acting like he has to be a man child because of these things. I'm saying we need more information to actually see if that's true... And honestly, dating advice shouldn't be given if you don't know the people at least somewhat. You don't need to know them personally, but you need more than one short paragraph of less than 10 sentences. This has literally no information about them... Nobody can really give good advice based on that narrative... I don't see how me saying you need more than 10 sentences is saying you need to know them intimately. No, you don't. But 9 sentences isn't enough to give relationship advice off of unless those are some super long run on sentences... So, I still don't agree with the author, and think it depends on the reason why each sign is happening, rather than just the sign itself... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY 11/22/21 12:32:25 AM #197: |
pogo_rabid posted...
Just glanced through it and the article sounds like she just got dumped and is lashing out by writing a passive aggressive article about her ex under the guise of something else.Probably --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Punished_Blinx 11/22/21 12:37:44 AM #198: |
LinkPizza posted...
And for the clothes, probably not. But we don't know for sure. Nor do we know her teaching methods, or if she actually means do laundry, or do laundry right... He says he doesn't remember. Sorry but what single excuse is there for him not remembering how to do the laundry? That is not a complex or hard chore. If he wanted to learn he could fucking Google it without her help if he wanted to do the laundry. Or note down her instructions so he doesn't constantly forget. He's an adult. LinkPizza posted... We know he has a good sense of humor, a fun-loving spirit, likes to play video games, and leaves clothes around. We know she tends to be a serious Type A personality, whatever the hell that means. And that they've been living for together for about a year. And the few flaws she mentioned. Other than that, we know nothing. We don't know if she's talked to him about these things, or what she talked about exactly if she has. We don't know his side of the story, or what has caused some of these things if it's not normal behavior for him. We don't know where his money is going. There's so much that actually don't know... Which is why the list she was given specifically says irresponsible with money. If he is then yes that's a sign. Considering it's listed as an example of him acting like a child it's probably not due to financial hardship reasons. LinkPizza posted... And I'm not making up random things. I'm literally saying we don't have any information, and anything could be causing these. You guys are acting like he has to be a man child because of these things. I'm saying we need more information to actually see if that's true... I'm not acting like anything. She is given a list to check compare with to see if he's a manchild. You're going off on random tangents that none of us could possibly know that usually have to rely on the her being dishonest. She feels like she's living with a child. She's given a list of 12 signs that he could be a manchild. That's it. Nobody is claiming anything else. Nobody is telling her what to do. Nobody is making definitive statements about anything. Nobody is saying he definitely fits all 12 signs. LinkPizza posted... And honestly, dating advice shouldn't be given if you don't know the people at least somewhat. You don't need to know them personally, but you need more than one short paragraph of less than 10 sentences. This has literally no information about them... Nobody can really give good advice based on that narrative... I don't see how me saying you need more than 10 sentences is saying you need to know them intimately. No, you don't. But 9 sentences isn't enough to give relationship advice off of unless those are some super long run on sentences... So she was given a generic article that literally anyone could note as danger signs in a relationship. LinkPizza posted... So, I still don't agree with the author, and think it depends on the reason why each sign is happening, rather than just the sign itself... There's no 'why' that excuses any of the 12 signs. Either act like an adult or don't. They can't blame other people if their relationships fail because they can't act like an adult and they expect to date a replacement for their Mother. --- A Fallen Mascot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExtremeLuchador 11/22/21 12:39:50 AM #199: |
You're on most people's **** lists if you admit to playing video game past age 25 unless it's sports or war games. Same with people who like pro wrestling aren't taken seriously.
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