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codey
11/22/21 12:46:37 AM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
There's no 'why' that excuses any of the 12 signs. Either act like an adult or don't. They can't blame other people if their relationships fail because they can't act like an adult and they expect to date a replacement for their Mother.

Most of the signs are bad, but one of them is literally saying a man shouldn't get stressed out and find a coping a mechanism for said stress. It adds a little bonus if it's part of the "toxic three," but it doesn't limit it to that. I get very stressed out from my job, and sometimes I come home and draw and paint for a couple of hours to relieve that. That's a healthy coping mechanism, but apparently I'm a child and not an adult for dealing with my stress in a healthy way.

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Punished_Blinx
11/22/21 12:51:27 AM
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codey posted...
Most of the signs are bad, but one of them is literally saying a man shouldn't get stressed out and find a coping a mechanism for said stress. It adds a little bonus if it's part of the "toxic three," but it doesn't limit it to that. I get very stressed out from my job, and sometimes I come home and draw and paint for a couple of hours to relieve that. That's a healthy coping mechanism, but apparently I'm a child and not an adult for dealing with my stress in a healthy way.

That's not really what it says.

It says either they use stress as an excuse to lash out at other people or as an excuse to all-consume something by themselves.

Spending a couple of hours to yourself to unwind isn't excessive in most peoples eyes. If it is fuck those people (depending on the context obviously. Two hours on a weeknight if you have kids is a long time if this is a common occurrence). But the article specifically points out people who don't handle stress well so I doubt that's what it's referring to.

People not handling stress well is one of the biggest red flags for a relationship in general. It doesn't say men shouldn't get stressed out. It says does not handle stress well.

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LinkPizza
11/22/21 12:53:10 AM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
He says he doesn't remember.

Sorry but what single excuse is there for him not remembering how to do the laundry? That is not a complex or hard chore. If he wanted to learn he could fucking Google it without her help if he wanted to do the laundry. Or note down her instructions so he doesn't constantly forget. He's an adult.

And that could be about anything. That's all he says. For example, it could be him not remembering the water temperature, or maybe how her clothes need to be washed. Because I believe it's usually females clothes where you have to pay attention more to how they need to be washed.

Punished_Blinx posted...
Which is why the list she was given specifically says irresponsible with money. If he is then yes that's a sign.

Considering it's listed as an example of him acting like a child it's probably not due to financial hardship reasons.

And yet, we still don't know what's actually causing his money issues... It's just a guess on your part. There's nothing to suggest whether he is or isn't...

Punished_Blinx posted...
I'm not acting like anything.

She is given a list to check compare with to see if he's a manchild. You're going off on random tangents that none of us could possibly know that usually have to rely on the her being dishonest.

She feels like she's living with a child. She's given a list of 12 signs that he could be a manchild.

That's it. Nobody is claiming anything else. Nobody is telling her what to do. Nobody is making definitive statements about anything. Nobody is saying he definitely fits all 12 signs.

They aren't random tangents, though. This are things that could happen or the be the because of his or other people's problems. The problem is WE DON'T KNOW ENOUGH... And I now she's given the list. And like I said, I don't care about that. I think the reasons for the signs are more important than the signs themselves...

Punished_Blinx posted...
So she was given a generic article that literally anyone could note as danger signs in a relationship.

And that's why it's not good advice... It could fit anyone, but no context was given on the cause of the signs also being a factor. Which is should have done...

Punished_Blinx posted...
There's no 'why' that excuses any of the 12 signs. Either act like an adult or don't. They can't blame other people if their relationships fail because they can't act like an adult and they expect to date a replacement for their Mother.

Yes there are... It's that simple... There could be many reasons. So, there are definitely reasons. Acting like this is the be all end all list is dumb. And that's what you're saying if you're saying that there's nothing that could excuse any of these...
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Punished_Blinx
11/22/21 12:58:01 AM
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LinkPizza posted...
Yes there are... It's that simple... There could be many reasons. So, there are definitely reasons. Acting like this is the be all end all list is dumb. And that's what you're saying if you're saying that there's nothing that could excuse any of these...

Just because you have a reason for traits that are overall seen as negative in a relationship doesn't mean there's a reason for other people to bother being with you.

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AirFresh
11/22/21 1:00:13 AM
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If this article was about women the guy would be called an incel. How about every human is different and no man is going to be some perfect Disney Prince you god damn womencel.

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LinkPizza
11/22/21 1:00:51 AM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
Just because you have a reason for traits that are overall seen as negative in a relationship doesn't mean there's a reason for other people to bother being with you.

And that makes them kind of shit SOs, then. They could have legitimate reasons. But they run at the first sign of trouble. Thats not a healthy way to have relationships
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Punished_Blinx
11/22/21 1:05:33 AM
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LinkPizza posted...
And that makes them kind of shit SOs, then. They could have legitimate reasons. But they run at the first sign of trouble. Thats not a healthy way to have relationships

Not really.

If it's not a pleasant experience living with someone why stay or hope they'll change? It's not up to you to change your partner to benefit you. People usually aren't a problem to solve.

A lot of people make that mistake and end up very unhappy. What it's like to actually live with someone should be treated as a big wakeup call.

The list given isn't just some minor signs. It's legit an inability to be independent.

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LinkPizza
11/22/21 1:09:29 AM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
Not really.

If it's not a pleasant experience living with someone why stay or hope they'll change? It's not up to you to change your partner to benefit you. People usually aren't a problem to solve.

A lot of people make that mistake and end up very unhappy. What it's like to actually live with someone should be treated as a big wakeup call.

The list given isn't just some minor signs. It's legit an inability to be independent.

They kind of are. Running at the first sign of trouble rather than seeing if there is an easy solution like a compromise you can both reach or something is a bad way to have a relationships. I know many great relationship that has rocky patches. Those relationships would exist if they just have at the first sign that it wasnt perfect

People arent perfect, and thats ok. Nobody is. Instead of running, at least see if this is something thats can be talked anout at the very least

So, if somebody runs at the first sign of trouble, then they are a shit SO, who probably wont have a successful love life since they are looking for the non-existent perfect partner

And I still dont agree with the list. The reason for the signs are way more important
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Punished_Blinx
11/22/21 1:23:52 AM
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LinkPizza posted...
They kind of are. Running at the first sign of trouble rather than seeing if there is an easy solution like a compromise you can both reach or something is a bad way to have a relationships. I know many great relationship that has rocky patches. Those relationships would exist if they just have at the first sign that it wasnt perfect

People arent perfect, and thats ok. Nobody is. Instead of running, at least see if this is something thats can be talked anout at the very least

So, if somebody runs at the first sign of trouble, then they are a shit SO, who probably wont have a successful love life since they are looking for the non-existent perfect partner

And I still dont agree with the list. The reason for the signs are way more important

So in summary someone who;
1. Has a Messy Home
2. Behaves like a frat boy
3. Always has an excuse for his behaviour
4. Has constant financial problems
5. Excessive use of video games, weed and porn
6. Unreliable
7. Can't handle criticism
8. Does not handle stress well
9. Freaks out when you talk about milestone events
10. Does not know how to do age appropriate tasks
11. Uses weaponized incompetence to get you to do things for him
12. You find yourself nagging him

Isn't the shit SO.

The shit SO is the one with this person who doesn't figure out why they're like this, doesn't try to fix them and dumps them.

Good luck with that.

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LinkPizza
11/22/21 1:27:58 AM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
So in summary someone who;
1. Has a Messy Home
2. Behaves like a frat boy
3. Always has an excuse for his behaviour
4. Has constant financial problems
5. Excessive use of video games, weed and porn
6. Unreliable
7. Can't handle criticism
8. Does not handle stress well
9. Freaks out when you talk about milestone events
10. Does not know how to do age appropriate tasks
11. Uses weaponized incompetence to get you to do things for him
12. You find yourself nagging him

Isn't the shit SO.

The shit SO is the one with this person who doesn't figure out why they're like this, doesn't try to fix them and dumps them.

Good luck with that.

I didnt say they werent, did I? I said it depends on the reasons. If they reasons for the signs are bad, then theyre shit. If they have valid reasons, then they arent.

As for their SO, if they dont even know the reasons, and run at the first sign of trouble, then they are shit SOs. If they at least tried to compromise or find out the reasons, or even help, then theyre good SO.

Both people could be either. But Im basing it on more than a stupid list of signs
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Punished_Blinx
11/22/21 1:30:29 AM
#212:


LinkPizza posted...
If they reasons for the signs are bad, then theyre shit. If they have valid reasons, then they arent.

What are 'valid reasons' to not be an independent adult?

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LinkPizza
11/22/21 1:33:04 AM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
What are 'valid reasons' to not be an independent adult?

I cant tell you all the reasons. But to just say they are none just because is my good enough. Sometimes, Im at work and think what good reason could a person have to do things all the time. And sometimes, it was something I hadnt thought of Just because we dont know all the reasons why someone would do something doesnt mean all the reasons are bad But depending on what part youre talking about, it could be due to some sort of childhood trauma. Sometimes, the victims arent even aware of it
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Punished_Blinx
11/22/21 1:37:38 AM
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LinkPizza posted...
I cant tell you all the reasons. But to just say they are none just because is my good enough. Sometimes, Im at work and think what good reason could a person have to do things all the time. And sometimes, it was something I hadnt thought of Just because we dont know all the reasons why someone would do something doesnt mean all the reasons are bad But depending on what part youre talking about, it could be due to some sort of childhood trauma. Sometimes, the victims arent even aware of it

Would be nice for you. Not for them.

It's not on other people to process your trauma at the expense of their happiness.

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LinkPizza
11/22/21 1:39:28 AM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
Would be nice for you. Not for them.

It's not on other people to process your trauma at the expense of their happiness.

Its not. But it still makes them a shit person and shit SO
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Savoots
11/22/21 1:43:04 AM
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So women don't want to date guys who feel like their mothers?

Fine.

Guys shouldn't want to have to date girls who make them feel like their fathers.

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Punished_Blinx
11/22/21 1:44:25 AM
#217:


LinkPizza posted...
Its not. But it still makes them a shit person and shit SO

Other people aren't obligated to stay in a relationship with you.

If you aren't happy and things won't change you should leave. Personal happiness is the single most important thing in any relationship. If both people aren't happy what's the point?

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LinkPizza
11/22/21 1:52:32 AM
#218:


Punished_Blinx posted...
Other people aren't obligated to stay in a relationship with you.

If you aren't happy and things won't change you should leave. Personal happiness is the single most important thing in any relationship. If both people aren't happy what's the point?

They aren't. What I'm saying is if they run at the first sign of trouble, or don't want to help their SO, then there shit people or shit SOs. It's that simple. I never said they had to stay in the relationship. I'm just calling them shit for running at the first sign of trouble, or because everything isn't perfect. Nowhere did I say they had to stay in the relationship. So, I don't know why you keep mentioning that like that's what I'm saying...

And I said if you actually try something (compromise, communication, etc...) and nothing works, then leave. At that point, you tried. If you tried and it didn't work. Then you're not a shit person or SO... This is all stuff I've said multiple times already...

And when did I say only one person had to be happy. All I'm saying is to try...
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Punished_Blinx
11/22/21 2:04:36 AM
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There's a large difference between things not being perfect and a pattern of behaviour that indicates the kind of person they actually are. The latter is not so easy to 'fix'

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LinkPizza
11/22/21 2:12:38 AM
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Sure. But I still seeing trying before running at the first sight of problem as better. So, the decent thing to do is to actually try. If you don't try, you can really say you're a good SO...
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Punished_Blinx
11/22/21 2:15:37 AM
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The trying needs to go both ways.

All of the warning signs in this topic indicate a lack of trying already.

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LinkPizza
11/22/21 2:19:02 AM
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Yeah. I never said the other person didn't have to try. The other person obviously needs to try, as well... That's obvious. The problem is with them, so they obviously need to try, as well. They might not even know it's a problem, depending on what the problem is... Sometimes, it just takes a nudge in the right direction. Or someone to tell them...
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ExtremeLuchador
11/22/21 5:15:27 AM
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Conflict posted...
Is your gimmick just posting a whole bunch of blatantly false things

The last time I mentioned Pro Wrestling to a non-fan I was asked if I enjoyed watching men roll around in their underwear.

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11/22/21 5:57:05 AM
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ExtremeLuchador posted...
The last time I mentioned Pro Wrestling to a non-fan I was asked if I enjoyed watching men roll around in their underwear.
ok, well do you???

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codey
11/22/21 8:56:49 AM
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LinkPizza posted...
Sure. But I still seeing trying before running at the first sight of problem as better. So, the decent thing to do is to actually try. If you don't try, you can really say you're a good SO...

Dude, if you're exhibiting all of these behaviors and you get dumped, they're not leaving at the first sign of trouble, they're leaving at the 12th.

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Cocytus
11/22/21 9:03:12 AM
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12. You find yourself nagging.
Pfft, more like a you problem.
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LinkPizza
11/22/21 9:53:02 AM
#228:


codey posted...
Dude, if you're exhibiting all of these behaviors and you get dumped, they're not leaving at the first sign of trouble, they're leaving at the 12th.

And Im not saying that. To show all 11 signs (And I say 11 because the one nagging is not the one who has the other problems) would actually take some time. So, you will usually learn about them a little at a time, and usually not all at once. And if there are any problem, you should nip them in the bud instead of allowing them to fester and grow. When Insay first sign, I mean leaving after a couple of them show. Instead of immediately leaving, maybe try to solve the problem first. Thats all
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Gwynevere
11/22/21 10:03:20 AM
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Most of the list is good, 5 and 8 are sus as shit, especially 8

It's an incredibly common occurrence to not handle stress well, and in the moment feel like the entire world is bearing down on you. This is never an excuse for shitty behavior because of it, but man children are far from the only people that handle stress poorly

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3PiesAndAFork
11/22/21 10:10:21 AM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
1. Messy Home
2. Behaves like a frat boy
3. Always has an excuse for his behaviour
4. Has constant financial problems
5. Toxic trio
6. Unreliable
7. Can't handle criticism
8. Does not handle stress well
9. Freaks out when you talk about milestone events
10. Does not know how to do age appropriate tasks
11. Uses weaponized incompetence to get you to do things for him
12. You find yourself nagging him
The question is are these red flag traits easily detectable or do you have to date a person for a while to notice these signs?
That list seems reasonable enough. Most of those things you'd have to be dating for a while to figure out.

As a reasonably adjusted adult, I can see a woman having problems with a guy like that. Most women in relationships don't want to mother their SO.

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Veggeta_MAX
11/22/21 11:12:45 AM
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3PiesAndAFork posted...
Most of those things you'd have to be dating for a while to figure out.
I disagree. I think most of these things are easy to see right from the beginning. The dude must be good as hiding his toxic traits to lead anyone that far.

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Zanzenburger
11/22/21 12:29:38 PM
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Looks like a lot of defensive people in this topic fell right into #7 on that list. Lots of deflection and bitterness for a list of reasonable points.

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Ving_Rhames
11/22/21 1:37:09 PM
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This topic is still going lol

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dave_is_slick
11/22/21 2:08:49 PM
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3PiesAndAFork posted...
Most of those things you'd have to be dating for a while to figure out.
Huh? #9 is the only one that would take a while to find out, the rest seem like things you recognize immediately but choose to ignore.

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3PiesAndAFork
11/22/21 2:32:43 PM
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dave_is_slick posted...
Huh? #9 is the only one that would take a while to find out, the rest seem like things you recognize immediately but choose to ignore.
I think most guys would try to hide those traits, but it would eventually get out. That's where I was coming from.


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Punished_Blinx
11/22/21 2:52:10 PM
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3PiesAndAFork posted...
I think most guys would try to hide those traits, but it would eventually get out. That's where I was coming from.

Yeah the early period of a relationship is called the Honeymoon phase for a reason.

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Nathaniel2018
11/23/21 1:34:34 AM
#239:


Ving_Rhames posted...
This topic is still going lol

I know.. im actually enjoyiing reading them
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nexigrams
11/23/21 1:46:33 AM
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My anecdotal personal experience with women who would write that article (or hold the views within it) are that they are projecting. They are looking for someone to take care of them financially, put up with their emotional abuse, and give up everything they are, or enjoy, to cater to the whims of their partner. They get really pissed when you do things like the "toxic trio" because they are inherently self-satisfying. ie they have nothing to do with her. That really triggers them.

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Wii_Shaker
11/23/21 1:57:14 AM
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smoke_break posted...
Damn, men can't enjoy time alone?
That's what I'm sayin'.

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11/23/21 2:06:28 AM
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11/23/21 6:44:17 AM
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Woozul posted...
It must really suck to be you.
Wow rude

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MedeaLysistrata
11/23/21 6:49:26 AM
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Woozul posted...
Im not the one actively following users I dislike in an attempt to do whatever he is attempting to do.

If I see a post by someone that I dislike and I cant be civil, I avoid responding. Dont really think that its a worthwhile or enjoyable use of my time.
Maybe he likes you

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ModLogic
11/23/21 7:07:50 AM
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Woozul posted...
actively following users
yea i actively followed you into this topic before you even posted.

7. Can't handle criticism

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CyricZ
11/23/21 7:43:29 AM
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ModLogic posted...
7. Can't handle criticism
lol at the self awareness

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