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Eramir
02/12/22 12:23:58 AM
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https://twitter.com/sbagley/status/1492211674496962563
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Tenlaar
02/12/22 12:28:02 AM
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*associate professor
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Robot2600
02/12/22 12:30:53 AM
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associate professors are full-time, usually graduate (i.e. qualified to teach grad students) faculty. they rank lowest within a department structure, but they are very high-up in the university structure.

it's funny because even associate professors are benefitting from the both the unpaid labor of graduate students and the criminally underpaid labor of adjunct professors.

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IndorilGawain
02/12/22 12:33:45 AM
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Tenlaar posted...
*associate professor
Tell me you don't know what an associate professor is without telling me you don't know what an associate professor is.

Robot2600 posted...
associate professors are full-time, usually graduate (i.e. qualified to teach grad students) faculty. they rank lowest within a department structure, but they are very high-up in the university structure.
Assistant professors are the lowest on the TT faculty rank (if they aren't NTT). And yeah, adjuncts and grads are underpaid, but that doesn't mean the TT professoriate isn't.

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What_
02/12/22 12:33:52 AM
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His mathematics serve less of a purpose to our fat ass society then some manager yelling at people shilling out shitty Panda Express
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IndorilGawain
02/12/22 12:34:38 AM
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And yeah, pay often isn't great but it's usually a bit better for TT faculty in bigger/more expensive states (as opposed to Utah in the example). But still no excuse for being lower than a retail/fast food manager.

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Shotgunnova
02/12/22 12:35:04 AM
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If you can't make a Lune of Hippocrates, don't even talk to me, bro!

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WingsOfGood
02/12/22 12:35:24 AM
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WingsOfGood
02/12/22 12:39:03 AM
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What_ posted...
His mathematics serve less of a purpose to our fat ass society then some manager yelling at people shilling out shitty Panda Express

Well if more people learned his mathematics they might decide the billionaires are screwing them over and revolt.

Better prop up the people making everyone fat and tired instead ofc.
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Tenlaar
02/12/22 1:42:04 AM
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IndorilGawain posted...
Tell me you don't know what an associate professor is without telling me you don't know what an associate professor is.
Thats a stupid thing to say. Associate professors are below professors, if the TC wants to make a topic about something like this they should at least be accurate in what theyre talking about.

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IndorilGawain
02/12/22 1:45:32 AM
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Tenlaar posted...
Thats a stupid thing to say. Associate professors are below professors, if the TC wants to make a topic about something like this they should at least be accurate in what theyre talking about.
An associate professor is a professor. The difference between associate professor and full professor is not relevant to this discussion, and not relevant to the wider public outside academe.

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Tenlaar
02/12/22 1:50:24 AM
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IndorilGawain posted...
An associate professor is a professor. The difference between associate professor and full professor is not relevant to this discussion, and not relevant to the wider public outside academe.
Professor and associate professor are job titles and an associate professor is not a professor. It is absolutely relevant in a discussion about pay for the position. I dont know why that bothers you but I also dont care.
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Solid Snake07
02/12/22 1:53:04 AM
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So? Then go manage a fucking panda express if you think it's so easy compared to what you do.

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IndorilGawain
02/12/22 1:53:17 AM
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Tenlaar posted...
and an associate professor is not a professor.
Lmao holy fuck, yes it literally is. They are tenured professors (usually). The vast majority of professors at a university are not "full professors." They have the exact same responsibilities and if anything work and research harder as they try to move up the tenure ladder.

I think you're getting far too hung up on your misconceptions about what the term "associate" means in this context. Stay in your lane please.

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IndorilGawain
02/12/22 1:53:55 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
So? Then go manage a fucking panda express if you think it's so easy compared to what you do.
I think it's hilarious that you're giving literally any credence to the idea that managing a Panda isn't easier than being a professor. But it's you lol.

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Solid Snake07
02/12/22 1:57:10 AM
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IndorilGawain posted...
I think it's hilarious that you're giving literally any credence to the idea that managing a Panda isn't easier than being a professor. But it's you lol.


I didn't say it wasn't, I said if you think it's so much easier then go manage a restaurant and stop crying like a bitch.

I have no reason for bias here, you very clearly do.

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Perascamin
02/12/22 1:59:38 AM
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The panda express advertisement is probably the top out pay for that position

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Arcanine2009
02/12/22 2:10:29 AM
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Hell I'd say that's low as hell for assistant and general manager. wtf.

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Tenlaar
02/12/22 2:30:51 AM
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IndorilGawain posted...
Lmao holy fuck, yes it literally is. They are tenured professors (usually). The vast majority of professors at a university are not "full professors." They have the exact same responsibilities and if anything work and research harder as they try to move up the tenure ladder.

I think you're getting far too hung up on your misconceptions about what the term "associate" means in this context. Stay in your lane please.
Do you also think that a sous chef and a chef are the same thing? You stay in your lane and get banned again.
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IndorilGawain
02/12/22 2:34:23 AM
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Tenlaar posted...
Do you also think that a sous chef and a chef are the same thing? You stay in your lane and get banned again.
Not even remotely comparable. Again, you clearly have zero idea what youre talking about and are arguing based on your misconceptions about what the term means. Associate professors are not subordinate, assistant to, or otherwise less than fulls.

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_Rinku_
02/12/22 2:35:03 AM
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Yeah, that "Total Potential... Compensation" phrase is doing a lot of heavy lifting. Guarantee that's factoring in employer contributions to healthcare, value of sick days, and maybe some stocks (unlikely though). There's zero chance that it's $69k gross pay.
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CaptainOfCrush
02/12/22 2:37:11 AM
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I'd kill to teach for that salary. I'm a part time finance instructor at a university and get paid less than 4k to teach one course. Fulltime equivalency is four classes per semester which comes out to under $32k per year, but no part timer would ever actually sniff annual pay close to that.

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archedsoul
02/12/22 2:37:55 AM
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https://imgur.com/1brz5hG

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Solid Snake07
02/12/22 3:04:46 AM
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IndorilGawain posted...
Not even remotely comparable. Again, you clearly have zero idea what youre talking about and are arguing based on your misconceptions about what the term means. Associate professors are not subordinate, assistant to, or otherwise less than fulls.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associate_professor

In the North American system, used in the United States and many other countries, it is a position between assistant professor and a full professorship.

Hmmmm....

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KainWind
02/12/22 3:23:43 AM
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I like how most of the comments (even some in this topic!) immediately assume the guy is saying he should be paid more.

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Solid Snake07
02/12/22 3:28:51 AM
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KainWind posted...
I like how most of the comments (even some in this topic!) immediately assume the guy is saying he should be paid more.


Yeah, this totally wasn't an elitist "I'm obviously worth more than they are" statement. He's probably just congratulating panda express managers for being offered a higher starting salary than himself.

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Octans
02/12/22 3:41:44 AM
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KainWind posted...
I like how most of the comments (even some in this topic!) immediately assume the guy is saying he should be paid more.
Dafuq else would he be saying? That panda express people make too much money? I suppose that could be his point, but it's the only one that would make him look like more of a d-bag. He's saying "LoOk wHat SoCiEty VAluEs moRe" and insinuating he should be higher paid than a fast food worker.

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IndorilGawain
02/12/22 11:01:18 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associate_professor

In the North American system, used in the United States and many other countries, it is a position between assistant professor and a full professorship.

Hmmmm....

IndorilGawain posted...
Not even remotely comparable. Again, you clearly have zero idea what youre talking about and are arguing based on your misconceptions about what the term means. Associate professors are not subordinate, assistant to, or otherwise less than fulls.


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COVxy
02/12/22 11:16:25 AM
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Lmao at the people completely outside of their element trying to argue about what an associate professor is.

Is it too much to ask for people to just not talk about shit they don't understand?

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IndorilGawain
02/12/22 11:18:01 AM
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COVxy posted...
Lmao at the people completely outside of their element trying to argue about what an associate professor is.

Is it too much to ask for people to just not talk about shit they don't understand?
But it says theyre just an associate! And the assistants probably just help the real professor!

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thronedfire2
02/12/22 11:25:23 AM
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KainWind posted...
I like how most of the comments (even some in this topic!) immediately assume the guy is saying he should be paid more.

is thatnot what hes saying?

unless you think 70k is too much to run an entire restaurant, in which case lol. Especially since 69k is the top potential pay, most people will realistically make less

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g980
02/12/22 11:26:43 AM
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are we already back to shitting on essential workers?

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Jx1010
02/12/22 11:27:48 AM
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But panda express tastes good

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COVxy
02/12/22 11:28:54 AM
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g980 posted...
are we already back to shitting on essential workers?

I think the primary point here is not that the manager is an overpaid position, but that we underpay professors.

But most people don't understand the path it takes to get to professorship, or what professors do. So it's not obvious that they are underpaid.

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Jx1010
02/12/22 11:32:50 AM
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g980 posted...
are we already back to shitting on essential workers?
Are truck drivers essential workers?

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Tenlaar
02/12/22 1:41:01 PM
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IndorilGawain posted...
But it says theyre just an associate! And the assistants probably just help the real professor!
Its amusing how buttmad you are over people pointing out that associate professor and professor are different positions. But I suppose that is your whole personality, being buttmad about everything in between bans.
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IndorilGawain
02/12/22 1:41:46 PM
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Tenlaar posted...
Its amusing how buttmad you are over people pointing out that associate professor and professor are not the same thing. But I suppose that is your whole personality, being buttmad about everything in between bans.
Both Covxy and I have taught at the college level and been through graduate school (MA for me, PhD for him). I think we know more about it than you

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Tenlaar
02/12/22 1:43:04 PM
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IndorilGawain posted...
Both Covxy and I have taught at the college level and been through graduate school (MA for me, PhD for him). I think we know more about it than you
Then you should know that associate professor and professor are not the same position.
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K181
02/12/22 1:45:11 PM
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professors should be paid more!!!!!

So college should be more expensive?

uhhhhh.

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gamer167
02/12/22 1:46:53 PM
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Good, the Panda Express Manager is of more value to me anyways.
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IndorilGawain
02/12/22 1:47:07 PM
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Tenlaar posted...
Then you should know that associate professor and professor are not the same position.
Do you get something out of purposely acting ignorant or is it just a compulsion

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Tenlaar
02/12/22 1:49:45 PM
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IndorilGawain posted...
Do you get something out of purposely acting ignorant or is it just a compulsion
Im not the one refusing to acknowledge that associate professor and professor are different positions for some weird reason.
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IndorilGawain
02/12/22 1:50:02 PM
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Good lord man

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