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Seaman_Prime
06/14/22 12:10:43 PM
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https://www.wbrz.com/news/investigative-unit-rape-victim-ordered-to-pay-her-abuser-child-support/
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NoxObscuras
06/14/22 12:18:36 PM
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What the actual fuck

Things took a dramatic turn this year when a judge granted Barnes full custody. It happened after Barnes alleged Abelseth gave her daughter a cell phone. Abelseth said she was also ordered to pay Barnes child support.
How the hell did giving her teenage daughter a cell phone justify losing custody? That judge was definitely in the guys pocket and should be investigated.

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ZevLoveDOOM
06/14/22 12:19:28 PM
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just saw that on Reddit.

seriously, what the fucking hell is wrong with this society...
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DipDipDiver
06/14/22 12:22:01 PM
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This story has some confusing elements to it, like for instance if she had never met the guy before he raped her, and she didn't tell anyone about it, how did this dude find out he had a kid?
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Null_Gain
06/14/22 12:23:21 PM
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Sounds like some red state hellhole

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PMarth2002
06/14/22 12:25:17 PM
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That's fucked up.

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PatrickMahomes
06/14/22 12:26:17 PM
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expected texas

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RetroGamer68
06/14/22 12:26:58 PM
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Thats too much news for me today.
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spanky1
06/14/22 12:36:24 PM
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This story is even more disturbing when you realize the child in question is 16 years old...

...the same age as the mother when she was raped.

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WaterLink
06/14/22 12:36:25 PM
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Tangipahoa Parish, why am I not surprised. Though there has to be more to the story, a judge doesn't take away custody and ask for child support over a cell phone, there just has to be more to it than that.

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DipDipDiver
06/14/22 12:37:57 PM
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WaterLink posted...
Tangipahoa Parish, why am I not surprised. Though there has to be more to the story, a judge doesn't take away custody and ask for child support over a cell phone, there just has to be more to it than that.
Yeah that whole thing makes no sense
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Bishop9800
06/14/22 12:38:00 PM
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This is some bullshit

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A_Good_Boy
06/14/22 12:38:30 PM
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WaterLink posted...
Tangipahoa Parish, why am I not surprised. Though there has to be more to the story, a judge doesn't take away custody and ask for child support over a cell phone, there just has to be more to it than that.
I read that since they had shared custody the daughter was under a parental plan. I think the cell phone might have violated that plan, so the rapist got full custody.

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EmbraceOfDeath
06/14/22 12:39:06 PM
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And it's proven it was rape too, as regardless of consent, she was a minor. Why isn't he in prison when it's not possible for him to be the father unless he raped her?

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Tyranthraxus
06/14/22 12:40:13 PM
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NoxObscuras posted...
What the actual fuck

How the hell did giving her teenage daughter a cell phone justify losing custody? That judge was definitely in the guys pocket and should be investigated.

You're probably right.

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Jagr_68
06/14/22 12:40:36 PM
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Fuck the Bible Belt
Fuck the South

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ElatedVenusaur
06/14/22 12:40:51 PM
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EmbraceOfDeath posted...
And it's proven it was rape too, as regardless of consent, she was a minor. Why isn't he in prison when it's not possible for him to be the father unless he raped her?
Well, we can't go ruining his life over a small mistake he made, but we can certainly entrust him with sole custody of his daughter who is the same age her mom was when he raped her.

This is the society we live in. The judge probably believes a daughter is her father's property, or near enough.

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Heartomaton
06/14/22 12:43:56 PM
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Today on As the Clown World Turns...

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A_Good_Boy
06/14/22 12:44:26 PM
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ElatedVenusaur posted...
Well, we can't go ruining his life over a small mistake he made, but we can certainly entrust him with sole custody of his daughter who is the same age her mom was when he raped her.

This is the society we live in. The judge probably believes a daughter is her father's property, or near enough.
Seems part and parcel of a society that only views women as their genitals. Disgusting that the dude was given partial custody at all and not tossed in a jail cell.

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Solar_Crimson
06/14/22 12:51:36 PM
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EmbraceOfDeath posted...
And it's proven it was rape too, as regardless of consent, she was a minor. Why isn't he in prison when it's not possible for him to be the father unless he raped her?
Powerful friends, it looks like.

Disgusting all around.

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DipDipDiver
06/14/22 1:01:32 PM
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Also seems really unusual for a 16-year-old to not be given any input on custody matters, especially when it involves removing her from the home she's lived in her entire life
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DepreceV2
06/14/22 1:10:02 PM
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This needs to be investigated immediately. Something foul is going on behind the scenes

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Umbreon
06/14/22 2:20:33 PM
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Boy I wish expressing my thoughts on this wasn't a ToU violation.

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gunplagirl
06/14/22 2:27:40 PM
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A search of John Barnes shows he owns Gumbeaux Digital Branding, a web company in Ponchatoula. Barnes' website shows Ponchatoula Police as a client.
No wonder the police investigation never went anywhere. This entire thing reeks and the pedo rapist father is ruining yet another 16 year old girl's life. He deserves the death penalty for all of this, rapists are scum.

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Guide
06/14/22 2:37:06 PM
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Is there a legal expert here who knows what to do to handle an absolutely fucked up judge?

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The Wheelman1
06/14/22 2:58:53 PM
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The judge needs to be fired.

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Timmyjinkle
06/14/22 3:24:57 PM
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Anyone who has raped someone else ~ should have all parental rights to any child that results, rescinded (no matter if the rapist is male or female), and only have the responsibilities (such as child support).

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Prestoff
06/14/22 3:40:50 PM
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Expected Texas, got Louisiana. close enough.

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Null_Gain
06/14/22 5:09:18 PM
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You hear many bad things about cops from Louisiana.

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SSJPurple
06/14/22 5:11:06 PM
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This should be investigated

Thats sketchy and bizarre as hell Wtf

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GallisOTK
06/14/22 5:16:16 PM
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Saying my full thoughts on this would get me modded, so I'll say that this is horrible and sickening

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lorddrakath1522
06/14/22 5:52:02 PM
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By the title I thought it was a case of female on male rape but goddamn, it's way worse than I thought.
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Imit8m3
06/14/22 5:57:05 PM
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Loseriana.

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garan
06/14/22 5:58:40 PM
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DipDipDiver posted...
Also seems really unusual for a 16-year-old to not be given any input on custody matters, especially when it involves removing her from the home she's lived in her entire life


Very true, but apparently this is a clear cut case of judicial corruption. I hope the daughter gets out of there safely as soon as she can.
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Cokewave
06/14/22 6:05:09 PM
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Heard about this story earlier

>She was 16 and he was 30 when they had sex
>He found out he was the father when the daughter was 5 and sued for custody
>2 years later (daughter 7 yrs old), he gets 50-50 custody, she goes to police to file a rape charge
>Daughter is now 16 and he gets full custody

Shes says its because of a cellphone, but realistically at that age they speak to the daughter and ask her what she wants. The issue is that he was never charged with a crime, so hes not officially a felony rapist, so he has parental rights. Age of consent in Louisiana is 17 so i'm assuming he's arguing that she was 17 and it was legal when they had sex, shes arguing she was 16 and it was a crime. She waited 7 years to file charges and only after she lost a custody case so it hurts her case in a "he said/she said" situation.

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The_Korey
06/14/22 6:10:04 PM
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GallisOTK posted...
Saying my full thoughts on this would get me modded,

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Tyranthraxus
06/14/22 6:12:28 PM
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lorddrakath1522 posted...
By the title I thought it was a case of female on male rape but goddamn, it's way worse than I thought.
This happened in new Zealand. The victim was 13 when it happened IIRC. I think he didn't even know he was a father.

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WaterLink
06/14/22 6:18:06 PM
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Cokewave posted...
he's arguing that she was 17 and it was legal when they had sex, shes arguing she was 16 and it was a crime.

I'd imagine they can use the pregnancy timeline to find out how old both parties were at conception so a detail like that shouldn't even be arguable, it should be factual.

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fire_bolt
06/16/22 11:47:06 AM
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Goddamnit

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XxKrebsxX
06/16/22 12:38:51 PM
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Cokewave posted...
Heard about this story earlier

>She was 16 and he was 30 when they had sex
>He found out he was the father when the daughter was 5 and sued for custody
>2 years later (daughter 7 yrs old), he gets 50-50 custody, she goes to police to file a rape charge
>Daughter is now 16 and he gets full custody

Shes says its because of a cellphone, but realistically at that age they speak to the daughter and ask her what she wants. The issue is that he was never charged with a crime, so hes not officially a felony rapist, so he has parental rights. Age of consent in Louisiana is 17 so i'm assuming he's arguing that she was 17 and it was legal when they had sex, shes arguing she was 16 and it was a crime. She waited 7 years to file charges and only after she lost a custody case so it hurts her case in a "he said/she said" situation.

There it goes.

she only claimed rape after he took custody. Cmon guys, lets be subjective here. That doesnt strike anyone as odd?
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TheMikh
06/16/22 12:44:21 PM
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louisiana's a pretty purple state, but yes, a hellhole nonetheless

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NoxObscuras
06/16/22 12:54:03 PM
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XxKrebsxX posted...
There it goes.

she only claimed rape after he took custody. Cmon guys, lets be subjective here. That doesnt strike anyone as odd?
So out of this whole situation, that is the part that's odd to you?

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WaterLink
06/16/22 4:16:27 PM
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So me being from Louisiana this story has obviously blown up locally. The story gives this little detail:

A search of John Barnes shows he owns Gumbeaux Digital Branding, a web company in Ponchatoula. Barnes' website shows Ponchatoula Police as a client.

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So that's definitely true. But they've made some updates to their website since this story has blown up on the internet

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/9/5/AAGkrsAADWR_.jpg

The partners section is completely gone. Gee, wonder why that could be. Luckily the internet always keeps receipts.

And also, there's been an update on the story since this was posted here

https://toofab.com/2022/06/15/mom-ordered-to-give-full-custody-of-daughter-to-alleged-rapist/

After WBRZ aired the interview, District Attorney Scott Perrilloux told the station he is now reviewing the case and claimed it was the first he'd heard about it.

Rafael Goyeneche with the corruption watchdog Metropolitan Crime Commission also told the broadcaster he had requested an outside law enforcement agency to step in and review the case.

"I've been doing this a long time," he said. "I've never seen anything like this. This is confounding and deeply disturbing."

"That's why I'm making a referral to another agency today, for them to take a fresh look at it to see if it rises to the level of an actionable felony, and the agency that I would refer it to would have the authority to seek an arrest warrant and arrest any culpable individuals in this case," Goyeneche added.

Sean Cassidy of the Louisiana Foundation Against Sexual Assault told the station: "If a child is born from a felony rape, the law mandates that the abuser shall not have visitation or contact with that child... much less custody,"

A hearing is scheduled for July 15 on the custody issue in Tangipahoa Parish.

I don't see how it's taken this long to get the proper attention it deserved but it looks like it finally is at least. Hope this guy rots

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Null_Gain
06/16/22 4:20:22 PM
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It's a good question but then I see that users tag, and their posts ITT suddenly make more sense

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WaterLink
06/16/22 4:35:30 PM
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So now we have this to digest

https://www.wbrz.com/news/in-rape-paternity-dispute-judge-awarded-child-custody-to-alleged-abusive-father-despite-assault-complaints

In January 2021, the childs school counselor notified DCFS as a mandatory reporter that the child alleged Barnes physically and mentally abused her. Abelseth requested that Barnes custody be limited. Judge Cashe denied that motion.

By November, Barnes filed motions to have Abelseth held in contempt over a cell phone.

On Feb. 2, 2022, Cashe found Abelseth in contempt over the phone and ordered her to pay $500. Abelseth was instructed not to provide her daughter with a cell phone.

That same month court records note for the first time that the child was conceived from a rape. Its also alleged that Barnes drugged and sexually assaulted his daughter on Feb. 21, 2022 and Feb. 22, 2022.

She was transported to New Orleans where she was evaluated and the doctor confirmed that there was evidence of forced entry congruent with sexual assault, the document reads.

On March 18, 2022, Judge Cashe dismisses all of Abelseths claims saying all criminal charges have not been accepted and the evidence does not support the allegations made by the daughter.

Court records were not clear on what evidence led the judge to make his decision. An abuse advocate for Abelseth tells WBRZ the Tangipahoa Parish Sheriff's Office has not cooperated with the family over the location of the daughter's rape kit. The sheriff's office, once again, did not respond to requests for comment Thursday.

Sheriff Daniel Edwards is the brother of La. Governor John Bel Edwards.

By March 21, 2022, Barnes files for full custody claiming Abelseth provided the daughter with another phone. Barnes alleged because the Tangipahoa Parish Sheriff's Office and DCFS took no action, the allegations made by his daughter were false.

That same day, Judge Cashe granted Barnes sole custody.

Additional documents filed show the daughter continues to maintain her dad abuses her.

Judge Jeffrey Cashe notes in the court filings that April 26, 2022 is the first time anything has been mentioned about alleged felony carnal knowledge or rape even though records indicate that was brought up two months earlier.

That day, Abelseths lawyer filed motions to terminate Barnes' custody.

Two weeks ago, the detective who investigated the daughters alleged abuse asked to not be questioned about it. On June 1, 2022, Lisa Reilly filed a motion for protective order asking that if she participates in a deposition, that the questions be limited to matters not under investigation.

In a rare move, Judge Jeffrey Cashe attached a reason why he ruled. That was filed into the court record late Wednesday night, claiming Abelseth never alleged she was abused until Barnes asked to have her held in contempt.

On Thursday, the Tangipahoa Sheriff's Office announced it turned the case over to the district attorney's office following the WBRZ Investigative Unit report which garnered international attention.

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Ruvan22
06/16/22 4:51:47 PM
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WaterLink posted...
So now we have this to digest

https://www.wbrz.com/news/in-rape-paternity-dispute-judge-awarded-child-custody-to-alleged-abusive-father-despite-assault-complaints

WTF...
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