Current Events > I'm sorry about that non-binary topic I made

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I really did want to get into the mindset of what its like to be a non-binary person, and I think after watching a few youtube videos I have a better understanding of it.

I just wish I had a better support system on a forum Ive frequented for many years because I really do mean well. I didnt mean to offend anyone, I didnt mean to come across as calling non-binary people liars, even though the way I worded the topic may have made my intentions look insincere. But this is me. I dont shitpost about issues like this. But I take responsibility for the way I worded my OP.

Im not perfect and rereading my OP in the topic made me want to close it down and start out fresh. Again Im sorry for coming across a certain way.

Glad you took the initiative in expanding your horizons and clearing things up like this. Hope it helps.

Also, personally I wouldn't get too worked up about Nerevar and gunplagirl. One keeps spreadsheets on everyone and one calls everyone who doesnt share the exact same perspectives a transphobe.

outside the internet, NB as a term is about as recognized/accepted as xenogenders and neopronouns

It's just how CE goes.

Questionmarktarius posted...

It's just how CE goes.

Its just saying this cuz it got backed the fuck up over its ThEy Is PLuRaL take

BoyOfBattle posted...

outside the internet, NB as a term is about as recognized/accepted as xenogenders and neopronouns

It's just a common term for a natural phenomenon that's literally been a part of human history since the literal beginning of human history, spanning the entire globe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_gender

Seriously people, it's something older than fucking Judaism.

tri-sapphire posted...

It's just a common term for a natural phenomenon that's literally been a part of human history since the literal beginning of human history, spanning the entire globe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_gender

Seriously people, it's something older than fucking Judaism.

While found in a number of non-Western cultures, concepts of "third", "fourth", and "some" gender roles are still somewhat new to mainstream western culture and conceptual thought.[11]

MedeaLysistrata posted...

While found in a number of non-Western cultures, concepts of "third", "fourth", and "some" gender roles are still somewhat new to mainstream western culture and conceptual thought.[11]

And? Doesn't change the fact that the concept is older than Jesus, and is very widespread where said Jesus didn't wipe out older cultures.

tri-sapphire posted...

And? Doesn't change the fact that the concept is older than Jesus, and is very widespread where said Jesus didn't wipe out older cultures.

Jesus the conqueror? This is is a new take. Let me hear it.

Its almost like they want to be a part the LGBTQ community without actually being transgender or gay.

Was the bit people took issue with and when asked about it you ignored those posts which is why people thought you were shitposting which I dont think you were at least not intentionally.

tri-sapphire posted...

And? Doesn't change the fact that the concept is older than Jesus, and is very widespread where said Jesus didn't wipe out older cultures.

"While mainstream western scholarsnotably anthropologists who have tried to write about the South Asian hijras or the Native American "gender variant" and two-spirit peoplehave often sought to understand the term "third gender" solely in the language of the modern LGBT community, other scholarsespecially Indigenous scholarsstress that mainstream scholars' lack of cultural understanding and context has led to widespread misrepresentation of third gender people, as well as misrepresentations of the cultures in question, including whether or not this concept actually applies to these cultures at all.[12][13][14][15]"

I think to equivocate this category to LGBTQ+ is a big mistake. It's not the same thing at all. But that is just my intuition I guess.

tri-sapphire posted...

And? Doesn't change the fact that the concept is older than Jesus, and is very widespread where said Jesus didn't wipe out older cultures.

This is a goalpost shift. Its age was not the point being got at.

Who is this, 2600?

BoyOfBattle posted...

outside the internet, NB as a term is about as recognized/accepted as xenogenders and neopronouns

I didn't know I worked at the Internet.

DespondentDeity posted...

Its just saying this cuz it got backed the fuck up over its ThEy Is PLuRaL take

my pronoun is "it".

Questionmarktarius posted...

my pronoun is "it".

Thats why I used it.

DespondentDeity posted...

Thats why I used it.

ah.
I'm drunk as hell and didn't catch that.

Nice.

DespondentDeity posted...

Its just saying this cuz it got backed the fuck up over its ThEy Is PLuRaL take

This is an opportunity to help me.

"That's Chris. They is constipated."
or
"That's Chris. They are constipated."

What do I do?

Questionmarktarius posted...

This is an opportunity to help me.

"That's Chris. They is constipated."
or
"That's Chris. They are constipated."

What do I do?

Ideally, shut the fuck up.

DrizztLink posted...

Ideally, shut the fuck up.

You guys think I'm "republican" in the abortion and family values sense, but it's really in the low taxes and laissez-faire sense.
The modern republican party is not what I was there for.

I'm not your enemy.

Questionmarktarius posted...

This is an opportunity to help me.

"That's Chris. They is constipated."
or
"That's Chris. They are constipated."

What do I do?

I would use "are". But I'm not sure if that's correct or not.

Trumble posted...

I would use "are". But I'm not sure if that's correct or not.

This is what I don't know, and get hated on for not knowing.

Questionmarktarius posted...

This is an opportunity to help me.

"That's Chris. They is constipated."
or
"That's Chris. They are constipated."

What do I do?

What would you use if you were talking about an absent person of unknown gender?

I don't understand why singular they is such a weird concept for English speakers who have used it for generations.

Questionmarktarius posted...

You guys think I'm "republican" in the abortion and family values sense, but it's really in the low taxes and laissez-faire sense.
The modern republican party is not what I was there for.

I'm not your enemy.

I think you don't know what the fuck you're talking about and don't have the common courtesy TC has to recognize it.

Instead you're keeping your same stupid fucking line of reasoning from the original topic and now you're pissy that it's not working well.

_HayleyWilliams posted...

What would you use if you were talking about an absent person of unknown gender?

When unknown, I would just awkwardly avoid pronouns.

Questionmarktarius posted...

This is an opportunity to help me.

"That's Chris. They is constipated."
or
"That's Chris. They are constipated."

What do I do?

They are.

It's not as hard as you're trying to male it out to be.

Trumble posted...

I would use "are". But I'm not sure if that's correct or not.

Have you guys ever spoken to another human being before

How are you struggling with this

Questionmarktarius posted...

When unknown, I would just awkwardly avoid pronouns.

Did they not teach English when you were a kid?

I admit that I seriously do not comprehend the hangups people are having. I even talk about people who I know the gender of with "they" many times, and I have for almost 30 years. The controversy is lost on me.

_HayleyWilliams posted...

I admit that I seriously do not comprehend the hangups people are having

Some of us are genuinely weird.

Yeah, the singular they is something many people use without thinking about it. I think it's so common many people don't realize how often they use it.

emblem-man posted...

Yeah, the singular they is something many people use without thinking about it.

Some of us are weirdos who do.

I'm nobody's enemy, I'm just thinking too hard.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Some of us are weirdos who do.

I'm nobody's enemy, I'm just thinking too hard.

Maybe you should mind your own thees and thous.

emblem-man posted...

Yeah, the singular they is something many people use without thinking about it. I think it's so common many people don't realize how often they use it.

Ill just post an example I posted in the other topic, with a slight expansion.

Somebody left their umbrella in the office, could you find out who and return it to them? Im sure theyll be grateful since its expected to rain this afternoon.

TC, dont ask LGBT questions here.

Just dont. These guys, for the most part, are jaded as hell and will assume everyone is in bad faith 100% of the time. Theyll try to explain things in context only they understand and then get annoyed it doesnt translate well.

Then, after 5-6 different posters accuse you of being a liar or concern trolling, they then get the righteous opportunity to claim superiority when you inevitably pushback on the character assassination.

Doesnt matter how much egg shell walking you do. How much personal anecdotes you bring up to explain where youre coming from.

It also doesnt matter if theres no logical goal for your question being in bad faith.

You will not get an answer.

There are a handful of posters who would, but everyone else is too jaded from previous online encounters imo. So dont blame them.

except Gunpla and shockthemonkey they are a little extreme lol.

I recommend Reddit for these questions tho. Your post will be downvoted, but youll still have plenty of helpful answers.

Uh-huh. So you've posted bad faith "questions" too I take it?

I learned more about NB people from a NB friend I made at work than I ever did reading dozens of topics here because people get very emotional and aggressive about it here

AldousIsDead posted...

Uh-huh. So you've posted bad faith "questions" too I take it?

Yep. So I know how CE tends to operate.

Anyone who has a genuine interest should post on Reddit instead

Posting questions here may get you answers. But seeing how it upsets so many people immediately, I really dont think its beneficial for anyone to try.

AldousIsDead posted...

Uh-huh. So you've posted bad faith "questions" too I take it?

The name rings a bell.

cuttin_in_farm posted...

TC, dont ask LGBT questions here.

Just dont. These guys, for the most part, are jaded as hell and will assume everyone is in bad faith 100% of the time. Theyll try to explain things in context only they understand and then get annoyed it doesnt translate well.

Then, after 5-6 different posters accuse you of being a liar or concern trolling, they then get the righteous opportunity to claim superiority when you inevitably pushback on the character assassination.

Doesnt matter how much egg shell walking you do. How much personal anecdotes you bring up to explain where youre coming from.

It also doesnt matter if theres no logical goal for your question being in bad faith.

You will not get an answer.

There are a handful of posters who would, but everyone else is too jaded from previous online encounters imo. So dont blame them.

except Gunpla and shockthemonkey they are a little extreme lol.

I recommend Reddit for these questions tho. Your post will be downvoted, but youll still have plenty of helpful answers.

Basically this. Although I dont know if its because theyre jaded, seems more like theres a category of posters that has a natural predisposition to pounce and shit on people and topics of sensitive nature with possibly even an inkling of transphobia is the perfect justification to go balls out character assassinate someone since they can attack from a place of righteousness.

spikethedevil posted...

The name rings a bell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LVt49l6aP8

cuttin_in_farm posted...

TC, dont ask LGBT questions here.

Just dont. These guys, for the most part, are jaded as hell and will assume everyone is in bad faith 100% of the time. Theyll try to explain things in context only they understand and then get annoyed it doesnt translate well.

Then, after 5-6 different posters accuse you of being a liar or concern trolling, they then get the righteous opportunity to claim superiority when you inevitably pushback on the character assassination.

Doesnt matter how much egg shell walking you do. How much personal anecdotes you bring up to explain where youre coming from.

It also doesnt matter if theres no logical goal for your question being in bad faith.

You will not get an answer.

There are a handful of posters who would, but everyone else is too jaded from previous online encounters imo. So dont blame them.

except Gunpla and shockthemonkey they are a little extreme lol.

I recommend Reddit for these questions tho. Your post will be downvoted, but youll still have plenty of helpful answers.

Such a sad tale of wounded innocence. Im pretty sure I could hear angels crying, it was so tragic.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Some of us are weirdos who do.

I'm nobody's enemy, I'm just thinking too hard.

I can guarantee you that I am weirder and think harder than you

cuttin_in_farm posted...

TC, dont ask LGBT questions here.

Just dont. These guys, for the most part, are jaded as hell and will assume everyone is in bad faith 100% of the time. Theyll try to explain things in context only they understand and then get annoyed it doesnt translate well.

Then, after 5-6 different posters accuse you of being a liar or concern trolling, they then get the righteous opportunity to claim superiority when you inevitably pushback on the character assassination.

Doesnt matter how much egg shell walking you do. How much personal anecdotes you bring up to explain where youre coming from.

It also doesnt matter if theres no logical goal for your question being in bad faith.

You will not get an answer.

There are a handful of posters who would, but everyone else is too jaded from previous online encounters imo. So dont blame them.

except Gunpla and shockthemonkey they are a little extreme lol.

I recommend Reddit for these questions tho. Your post will be downvoted, but youll still have plenty of helpful answers.

Why would someone need to ask quesitons abou stuff like this? I was raised Catholic and conservative and still just learned things by myself.

I have zero sympathy for people making up issues to be confused about. This isn't rocket science. People seem to lose the ability to operate if they are asked to or reminded of things they do unconsciously. "You are now manually breathing."

No one cares when someone uses singular they in other instances or respects other people's personal lives, but say "LGBT" when doing it and it becomes a political debate and people need a 30 year study and 50 papers to be convinced that something deserves to be respected.

"My friend is coming over for dinner later on"
"Oh? Do they have any dietary restrictions?"

Normal conversations.

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haha, didn't even realize the Freudian slip typo.

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