Board 8 > Dota 2 Mafia 2 Topic 2 - A Second Serving of Subtle Spiciness

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I thought he was scum, and got overly excited. He said what his item was and I changed my mind. I also believe his role now, because that whole thing is so wildly ridiculous to claim as town.

If he is town, his role has to be compelled to act. The whole point for the role is to be anti-town and appear scummy and confuse scanners. If he is scum, it is to screw up items, scanners, and what not.

Did kirby ever give an explanation for his not miller to miller nonsense?

Is your item a day or night action, Kirby?

Hb does have a little of that 'why must these players I want to lynch be town?' vibe at times.
Not in a big enough way for me to suspect it, but still thats a loud protect he has got going.

Did kirby ever give an explanation for his not miller to miller nonsense?

Technically a Miller without powers is just a "Miller", not a "Miller Vanilla".

Really, it was just kinda fluff to see how Lea would respond in turn. Had she been lying, I would've found her claim inconsistent with the actual details of my role, not simply how I described it.

Also, after Star Wars Mafia, I've generally been adverse to claiming and want to keep my role hidden as much as possible. Yes, I realize that's a product of Chris's influence that game, and he was third-party, but the logic was sound. Why give scum more information than they needed to know?

In this case, however, I judged that it would be better for town to know that I'm a Miller sooner rather than later.

You are limited to one day action and one night action only, unless otherwise stated in your role DM or your item's description.

This just sounds like headcanon theorycrafting nonsense. Would you please shut up and wait for me to hear back from Isquen before speaking in absolutes like "a town role HAS to be compelled to act"

I don't understand what you mean?

I didnt think the illusion nonsense could work with my item as worded. I actually still dont, but I think Kirby isnt explaining it properly.

Oh I was about to say

Though this is still relevant

Because if Kirby's role is compelled it would mean he can never use his item at night. And he can never use the item shop.

Oh ffs

I didnt think the illusion nonsense could work with my item as worded. I actually still dont, but I think Kirby isnt explaining it properly.

Hey Kirby, do me a favor and ELI5.

You just sounded a little upset that Lea looked good to someone, even if that someone was Kirby.
Its not much of a good reason I will say, so dont worry about it too much.

i'm just... I've never claimed Lea was scum? I have no idea what you're getting at here

And I'd he said day action then it could be compelled. But I also don't think Kirby gets an item he can use anytime to start with and a night action he is compelled to use.

So why would that role ever be good to use for town? The cash gaining? That seems more like a downside to scum planting decoys.

If everything Kirby has said is true, he's a major town trap that's for sure.

Honestly i barely take that as an answer because i was thoroughly convinced you were trying to claim somerename for miller.

Nothing here vibes with wording about not being a miller.

A Miller counterclaim? I don't see scum Lea trying something as bold as this so early into the game. And with Role Madness taken into account, I can believe two Millers, especially since my particular role is a bit nuanced. My role is effectively a Miller but not exactly a conventional one. I imagine Lea's role also has similar quirks, and if we're both truthful, those specific quirks don't need to be discussed this early into the game.

Man, I don't want to meta and I don't need to either, but man Miller Decoy would be cruel.

I do believe Kirby being decoy and having those things but that doesn't mean town. Kirby was also trying to reach the conclusion of both him and Lea being town it seemed rather than just testing her. As red is getting at, "essentially miller" is still a weird way to describe Miller Decoy.

Man, I don't want to meta and I don't need to either, but man Miller Decoy would be cruel.

I am just gonna go to bed and assume the compelled answer will be given soon, Kirby.

Don't think too much about the choice of the word cruel. It would just be a town trap in more ways than one, the decoy being iy in the sense that you hear that role and think it must be scum to make sense.

My DM has been read, it seems. In due time, we shall have our answers.

My DM has been read, it seems. In due time, we shall have our answers.

... Though Lea is right. The shop exists, therefore I can't be compelled to use an action every night, right?

What do you say about that, Corrik?

What makes you think that

8.) There is an a money system in play. Every living player will passively generate 100 gold at the end-of-day. After Day 1 resolves, the secret shop opens up, and is available for anyone, unless otherwise noted, to use their night action to visit and purchase items. The shop inventory will be revealed midway through day one, and the shop may add items throughout the game. Inventory may change day to day, and will be revealed midway through each day if so.

I'm going after you because you keep dodging or giving non-answers or unsatisfactory answers to my questions. I think you being so sure on Lea and Ulti's alignments is a pretty clear slip.

Anyway, Hb is scum. Does nobody else besides Death find it odd he's hyper focused on me and has done absolutely no other scum hunting aside from meekly mentioning that Sbell was scum for butting heads with Han?