Board 8 > YGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 1 - Ah yes the worst element: Rookie.

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HanOfTheNekos 10/11/22 5:32:15 PM #401:	PunishedBen posted... Does anyone think Lopen's rebuttal holds up here? No. You said the same thing that made me think Sultan is Scum. Anyway, I'm sure somebody said this, but Chang came in with like, his what, third post? To say "it's too early to have thoughts but I'll probably lynch the person who Lopen is pushing". Like, what --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:968648198] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>PunishedBen posted... </cite><quote>Does anyone think Lopen's rebuttal holds up here?</quote>No. You said the same thing that made me think Sultan is Scum. Anyway, I'm sure somebody said this, but Chang came in with like, his what, third post? To say "it's too early to have thoughts but I'll probably lynch the person who Lopen is pushing".Like, what</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PunishedBen 10/11/22 5:34:16 PM #402:	HanOfTheNekos posted... No. You said the same thing that made me think Sultan is Scum. Anyway, I'm sure somebody said this, but Chang came in with like, his what, third post? To say "it's too early to have thoughts but I'll probably lynch the person who Lopen is pushing". Like, what Yeah wait a minute I don't see follow Lopen on the town flowchart --- https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/26864890/ <cite>PunishedBen posted [p:968648240] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>HanOfTheNekos posted... </cite><quote>No. You said the same thing that made me think Sultan is Scum. Anyway, I'm sure somebody said this, but Chang came in with like, his what, third post? To say "it's too early to have thoughts but I'll probably lynch the person who Lopen is pushing".Like, what</quote>Yeah wait a minute I don't see follow Lopen on the town flowchart</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PunishedBen 10/11/22 5:37:12 PM #403:	changmas posted... When Lopen is making logical sense and isn't completely BSing arguments off of the tiniest of factors, he's often right and worth trusting to lead the lynch. Like last game, when he nailed you dead to rights on day 1. Secondly, I just don't buy that Kirby genuinely cares so much about Han's performance in baseball mafia. it feels very contrived to me. memorable example of this? --- https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/26864890/ <cite>PunishedBen posted [p:968648287] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>changmas posted... </cite><quote>When Lopen is making logical sense and isn't completely BSing arguments off of the tiniest of factors, he's often right and worth trusting to lead the lynch. Like last game, when he nailed you dead to rights on day 1. Secondly, I just don't buy that Kirby genuinely cares so much about Han's performance in baseball mafia. it feels very contrived to me.</quote>memorable example of this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PunishedBen 10/11/22 5:38:06 PM #404:	Oh you literally gave one in the very next sentence. I should have kept reading --- https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/26864890/ <cite>PunishedBen posted [p:968648306] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>Oh you literally gave one in the very next sentence. I should have kept reading</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
changmas 10/11/22 5:39:41 PM #405:	HanOfTheNekos posted... No. You said the same thing that made me think Sultan is Scum. Anyway, I'm sure somebody said this, but Chang came in with like, his what, third post? To say "it's too early to have thoughts but I'll probably lynch the person who Lopen is pushing". Like, what in no way did i say i would "probably lynch" Kirby. I'm fairly certain I said something to the effect of trending towards voting Kirby, or somesuch. Come on Han, you're better than this. If you're going to make a case against me you shouldn't need to misrepresent me to do it. --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal <cite>changmas posted [p:968648340] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>HanOfTheNekos posted... </cite><quote>No. You said the same thing that made me think Sultan is Scum. Anyway, I'm sure somebody said this, but Chang came in with like, his what, third post? To say "it's too early to have thoughts but I'll probably lynch the person who Lopen is pushing".Like, what</quote>in no way did i say i would "probably lynch" Kirby. I'm fairly certain I said something to the effect of trending towards voting Kirby, or somesuch. Come on Han, you're better than this. If you're going to make a case against me you shouldn't need to misrepresent me to do it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 10/11/22 5:40:36 PM #406:	cfwr --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:968648364] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>cfwr</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
changmas 10/11/22 5:41:34 PM #407:	HanOfTheNekos posted... cfwr still don't know what that means --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal <cite>changmas posted [p:968648389] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>HanOfTheNekos posted... </cite><quote>cfwr</quote>still don't know what that means</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 10/11/22 5:45:18 PM #408:	Is chang usually this hesitant to give opinions on anything? I recall not putting votes down early before but I also feel like chang usually has pretty strong opinions. I noted early that he seemed nervous to come with opinions, which would make sense if he had actually rolled scum for once. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:968648469] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>Is chang usually this hesitant to give opinions on anything? I recall not putting votes down early before but I also feel like chang usually has pretty strong opinions.I noted early that he seemed nervous to come with opinions, which would make sense if he had actually rolled scum for once.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kirby321 10/11/22 5:54:38 PM #409:	Does chang usually have strong opinions? I thought he got mislynched in Star Wars Mafia because he had a complete lack of strong opinions (granted, that was Chris manipulating everything, but still). I don't think chang having a lack of strong opinions is an issue. I think his current opinion is completely lackluster, though. --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? <cite>Kirby321 posted [p:968648635] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>Does chang usually have strong opinions? I thought he got mislynched in Star Wars Mafia because he had a complete lack of strong opinions (granted, that was Chris manipulating everything, but still).I don't think chang having a lack of strong opinions is an issue. I think his current opinion is completely lackluster, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 10/11/22 5:57:27 PM #410:	Chang was with me in the trenches last game until late game. I don't think it's unreasonable for him to trust a read I have and he's been transparent about why he's doing so. The chang train is really bad here. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:968648693] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>Chang was with me in the trenches last game until late game. I don't think it's unreasonable for him to trust a read I have and he's been transparent about why he's doing so. The chang train is really bad here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PunishedBen 10/11/22 6:03:56 PM #411:	Lopen posted... Chang was with me in the trenches last game until late game. I don't think it's unreasonable for him to trust a read I have and he's been transparent about why he's doing so. The chang train is really bad here. cfwr --- https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/26864890/ <cite>PunishedBen posted [p:968648810] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>Lopen posted... </cite><quote>Chang was with me in the trenches last game until late game. I don't think it's unreasonable for him to trust a read I have and he's been transparent about why he's doing so. The chang train is really bad here.</quote>cfwr</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 10/11/22 6:04:40 PM #412:	Chang For World Ruler --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:968648824] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>Chang For World Ruler</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 10/11/22 6:06:59 PM #413:	Kirby321 posted... Does chang usually have strong opinions? I thought he got mislynched in Star Wars Mafia because he had a complete lack of strong opinions (granted, that was Chris manipulating everything, but still). It was a legit question because I don't remember. It might just be that he has talked more about it than usual. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:968648877] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>Kirby321 posted... </cite><quote>Does chang usually have strong opinions? I thought he got mislynched in Star Wars Mafia because he had a complete lack of strong opinions (granted, that was Chris manipulating everything, but still).</quote>It was a legit question because I don't remember. It might just be that he has talked more about it than usual.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 10/11/22 6:10:00 PM #414:	MZero hasn't posted nor been mentioned once I believe he is probably scum taking in both of these facts at once --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:968648928] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>MZero hasn't posted nor been mentioned onceI believe he is probably scum taking in both of these facts at once</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 10/11/22 6:12:20 PM #415:	HanOfTheNekos posted... Chang is going to have to provide something real to avoid being in my Scummish tier HanOfTheNekos posted... IGCD and Corrik as well Han scum equity skyrockets if MZero is scum --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:968648966] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>HanOfTheNekos posted... </cite><quote>Chang is going to have to provide something real to avoid being in my Scummish tier</quote>HanOfTheNekos posted... </cite><quote>IGCD and Corrik as well</quote>Han scum equity skyrockets if MZero is scum</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kirby321 10/11/22 6:17:25 PM #416:	I completely forgot MZero was in this game oof --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? <cite>Kirby321 posted [p:968649074] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>I completely forgot MZero was in this game oof</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 10/11/22 6:27:51 PM #417:	##Unvote: ##Vote: Mzero Proper emphasis given --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:968649288] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>##Unvote:##Vote: MzeroProper emphasis given</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 10/11/22 6:28:41 PM #418:	Would scum Han really not mention MZero there though? That seems so easy to avoid that my idea was that scum/scum was not possible. Can town Han not miss MZero there regardless of MZero's alignment? --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:968649300] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>Would scum Han really not mention MZero there though? That seems so easy to avoid that my idea was that scum/scum was not possible. Can town Han not miss MZero there regardless of MZero's alignment?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 10/11/22 6:31:09 PM #419:	I feel like Han tends to play hands off with scummates in general having been scum with him recently. Anyway the key isn't whether Han is scum or not (I've got huge mixed feelings on Han's alignment right now), just that I feel like if MZero is NOT scum that scum would have targeted him by now, regardless of who his mates actually are. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:968649361] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>I feel like Han tends to play hands off with scummates in general having been scum with him recently. Anyway the key isn't whether Han is scum or not (I've got huge mixed feelings on Han's alignment right now), just that I feel like if MZero is NOT scum that scum would have targeted him by now, regardless of who his mates actually are. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 10/11/22 6:38:27 PM #420:	I haven't played a game Han was scum in, but my initial idea is that you would not purposely avoid mentioning your scummate there when he has posted less than the others. I get the latter point, but I'll have to consider it. I'm trying to think why a scum team without MZero could have also just not noticed him being in at this point. Hm. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:968649505] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>I haven't played a game Han was scum in, but my initial idea is that you would not purposely avoid mentioning your scummate there when he has posted less than the others.I get the latter point, but I'll have to consider it. I'm trying to think why a scum team without MZero could have also just not noticed him being in at this point. Hm.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 10/11/22 6:39:35 PM #421:	So I also feel like Han as scum would reverse psychology and want to rule of 3 in our faces over mentioning 4. And I think if Han did that he'd intentionally rule of 3 with 3 town and ignore MZero because "it's too obvious!!!" But this isn't chiefly an argument for Han as scum, just explaining that Han is shrewd enough to exploit expectations of scum play and we shouldn't rule anything out on "too easy to avoid" basis. Do I think he would unintentionally avoid mentioning MZero? No. But do I think he would potentially do it fully aware of the implications for a mind game? Absolutely. I also find it strange that town calling out lurky folk out of genuine interest would actually miss MZero. I know me, personally, when I want to check "who has not posted" my first instinct is to go to the playerlist at the beginning and look for people who I don't recall posting anything. MZero is hard to avoid when you do that. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:968649523] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>So I also feel like Han as scum would reverse psychology and want to rule of 3 in our faces over mentioning 4. And I think if Han did that he'd intentionally rule of 3 with 3 town and ignore MZero because "it's too obvious!!!"But this isn't chiefly an argument for Han as scum, just explaining that Han is shrewd enough to exploit expectations of scum play and we shouldn't rule anything out on "too easy to avoid" basis. Do I think he would unintentionally avoid mentioning MZero? No. But do I think he would potentially do it fully aware of the implications for a mind game? Absolutely. I also find it strange that town calling out lurky folk out of genuine interest would actually miss MZero. I know me, personally, when I want to check "who has not posted" my first instinct is to go to the playerlist at the beginning and look for people who I don't recall posting anything. MZero is hard to avoid when you do that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 10/11/22 6:44:49 PM #422:	This sure is WIFOM --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:968649621] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>This sure is WIFOM</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 10/11/22 6:52:25 PM #423:	It is. Anyway one step at a time kill Mzero first then go from there. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:968649778] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>It is. Anyway one step at a time kill Mzero first then go from there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kirby321 10/11/22 7:05:36 PM #424:	Clarifying question: did Han call out the lurkers yesterday or today? If yesterday, that's fair since MZero is usually online while the Americans are asleep. If today, then I suppose you have somewhat of an argument for Han avoiding MZero by name. --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? <cite>Kirby321 posted [p:968650058] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>Clarifying question: did Han call out the lurkers yesterday or today?If yesterday, that's fair since MZero is usually online while the Americans are asleep.If today, then I suppose you have somewhat of an argument for Han avoiding MZero by name.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kirby321 10/11/22 7:08:07 PM #425:	To clarify, MZero wouldn't have had a reasonable chance to post yet at the time Han called out IGCD and Corrik, assuming Han posted before nighttime hit the U.S. It's concerning that MZero hasn't posted at all, both in-game and outside of the game. --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? <cite>Kirby321 posted [p:968650101] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>To clarify, MZero wouldn't have had a reasonable chance to post yet at the time Han called out IGCD and Corrik, assuming Han posted before nighttime hit the U.S.It's concerning that MZero hasn't posted at all, both in-game and outside of the game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 10/11/22 7:08:11 PM #426:	Top of last page so like 3 hours ago. Not long. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:968650102] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>Top of last page so like 3 hours ago. Not long. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kirby321 10/11/22 7:09:04 PM #427:	"Outside of the game" meaning I hope he's okay and nothing happened to him (How I pine for being able to edit my posts...) --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? <cite>Kirby321 posted [p:968650115] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>"Outside of the game" meaning I hope he's okay and nothing happened to him(How I pine for being able to edit my posts...)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 10/11/22 7:09:55 PM #428:	Btw Kirby this is actually a kinda neat feature on the board If you quote a post like I did using the quote button if you click the blue text that says "HanOfTheNekos posted..." it shows the whole post being quoted. So you can at an instant see the time and the post numbers. Only works if you're quoting a post from the same topic though. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:968650129] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>Btw Kirby this is actually a kinda neat feature on the boardIf you quote a post like I did using the quote button if you click the blue text that says "HanOfTheNekos posted..." it shows the whole post being quoted. So you can at an instant see the time and the post numbers.Only works if you're quoting a post from the same topic though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 10/11/22 7:19:06 PM #429:	Devil's Advocate Scumteam does not contain MZero, but contains mostly people who are in no position to call out lurking themselves. It is an interesting possibility. Going to go give the lurker target posts a thorough look through. Solving MZero's complete lack of mention this game will be illuminating I think. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:968650330] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>Devil's AdvocateScumteam does not contain MZero, but contains mostly people who are in no position to call out lurking themselves. It is an interesting possibility. Going to go give the lurker target posts a thorough look through. Solving MZero's complete lack of mention this game will be illuminating I think. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kirby321 10/11/22 7:33:04 PM #430:	Ay yo? I didn't know those were hyperlinks. That's sick! Thank you for the tip --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? <cite>Kirby321 posted [p:968650632] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>Ay yo? I didn't know those were hyperlinks. That's sick! Thank you for the tip </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 10/11/22 7:41:03 PM #431:	So I just sped read the game again Only saw Han doing it Less interesting a lead. Still think the basic idea that MZero is likely scum fits, but was hoping there would be more meat on the bone. Especially after Chang got 3 votes. Was assuming one would be for inactivity, but doesn't seem that really happened? One thing I did find interesting was that Han gave Kirby an awful lot of credit for "attempting to stop discussing previous games" but like... did that actually happen? Like Kirby said "I want to stop" but then continued to mention it Baseball Mafia and Nickelodeon and whatever else. I'm not saying it's necessarily a scumtell to do this. What I'm saying is giving him credit for doing this when he hasn't actually done this doesn't feel genuine. It lends more cred to my "Han is attempting to pocket people" theory because it seems like a weird thing to jump to a hard townread on. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:968650788] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>So I just sped read the game againOnly saw Han doing itLess interesting a lead. Still think the basic idea that MZero is likely scum fits, but was hoping there would be more meat on the bone. Especially after Chang got 3 votes. Was assuming one would be for inactivity, but doesn't seem that really happened? One thing I did find interesting was that Han gave Kirby an awful lot of credit for "attempting to stop discussing previous games" but like... did that actually happen? Like Kirby said "I want to stop" but then continued to mention it Baseball Mafia and Nickelodeon and whatever else. I'm not saying it's necessarily a scumtell to do this. What I'm saying is giving him credit for doing this when he hasn't actually done this doesn't feel genuine. It lends more cred to my "Han is attempting to pocket people" theory because it seems like a weird thing to jump to a hard townread on. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 10/11/22 7:48:14 PM #432:	Kirby321 posted... I mean, if you want to be petty, your correct reads mean jack shit if you can't convince people to follow them. You can't just say "if people had TRUSTED and BELIEVED ME that game things would've gone differently." I mean, you're right. If we had followed you and special'd Ben on Day 1, things would've gone very differently that game, for all the wrong reasons :P Blame yourself if nobody was listening to you that game. But again, that has nothing to do with this current game, so stuff it. So here is the post where Kirby says he wants to stop discussing previous games Then here are all the posts after Kirby says to drop it that Kirby made Then here is Han saying Kirby is town HanOfTheNekos posted... ##Vote: changmas Kirby isn't Scum. Try again. Then here are two more of Kirby's posts talking about previous games. Kirby321 posted... Sod off. I have respect for your play in Baseball Musical Mafia, and I'll praise you and chang for burying Lopen that game and really kickstarting Town's momentum for the victory. But for Nickelodeon Mafia, we lost that game because Ulti and Sbell turned on Lea for no damn good reason. Ben made a foolproof plan for victory, and nobody said anything against it, including Ulti and Sbell. Then Ben died and Ulti was suddenly extremely vocal about lynching Lea, which went completely against the plan Ben established. You're delusional if you think Town not listening to you was the problem that game, and that is a hill I will die on. Sorry, I should be wiser and stop being irrationally angry, but I'm still salty about how we lost that game, and I don't appreciate that you're trying to make it about yourself. Furthermore, I've insisted on tabling this discussion until after the game is over since it's not pertinent to this game, and instead of respecting that, you continue to provoke and mock me over it. ANYWAY, that's a whole lot of nonsense that no one else besides Han and I care about. I'll make a separate post on what I have to say thus far about this game once I've cooled down. Kirby321 posted... It just feels like he's been really trying to get on my good side this game, even down to the whole "I think Kirby is town I think we just have some differences to work out" schtick that I'm pretty sure he also used in Simple Mafia. Am I the only one who is suspicious of Ben? Here is Han saying how as scum Kirby would try to stop discussion of past games. (He did?) HanOfTheNekos posted... I don't think Kirby as Scum tries to tamp down on discussion of the past game like that. For one, Scum love talking about past games (you yourself are complicit in this). For two, it's an opportunity to post and be active and have it not have anything to do with the current game. No, he didn't. Kirby321 posted... Does chang usually have strong opinions? I thought he got mislynched in Star Wars Mafia because he had a complete lack of strong opinions (granted, that was Chris manipulating everything, but still). I don't think chang having a lack of strong opinions is an issue. I think his current opinion is completely lackluster, though. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:968650928] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>Kirby321 posted... </cite><quote>I mean, if you want to be petty, your correct reads mean jack shit if you can't convince people to follow them.You can't just say "if people had TRUSTED and BELIEVED ME that game things would've gone differently." I mean, you're right. If we had followed you and special'd Ben on Day 1, things would've gone very differently that game, for all the wrong reasons :PBlame yourself if nobody was listening to you that game. But again, that has nothing to do with this current game, so stuff it.</quote>So here is the post where Kirby says he wants to stop discussing previous gamesThen here are all the posts after Kirby says to drop it that Kirby madeThen here is Han saying Kirby is townHanOfTheNekos posted... </cite><quote>##Vote: changmasKirby isn't Scum.Try again.</quote>Then here are two more of Kirby's posts talking about previous games.Kirby321 posted... </cite><quote>Sod off. I have respect for your play in Baseball Musical Mafia, and I'll praise you and chang for burying Lopen that game and really kickstarting Town's momentum for the victory.But for Nickelodeon Mafia, we lost that game because Ulti and Sbell turned on Lea for no damn good reason. Ben made a foolproof plan for victory, and nobody said anything against it, including Ulti and Sbell. Then Ben died and Ulti was suddenly extremely vocal about lynching Lea, which went completely against the plan Ben established.You're delusional if you think Town not listening to you was the problem that game, and that is a hill I will die on.Sorry, I should be wiser and stop being irrationally angry, but I'm still salty about how we lost that game, and I don't appreciate that you're trying to make it about yourself. Furthermore, I've insisted on tabling this discussion until after the game is over since it's not pertinent to this game, and instead of respecting that, you continue to provoke and mock me over it.ANYWAY, that's a whole lot of nonsense that no one else besides Han and I care about. I'll make a separate post on what I have to say thus far about this game once I've cooled down.</quote>Kirby321 posted... </cite><quote>It just feels like he's been really trying to get on my good side this game, even down to the whole "I think Kirby is town I think we just have some differences to work out" schtick that I'm pretty sure he also used in Simple Mafia. Am I the only one who is suspicious of Ben?</quote>Here is Han saying how as scum Kirby would try to stop discussion of past games. (He did?)HanOfTheNekos posted... </cite><quote>I don't think Kirby as Scum tries to tamp down on discussion of the past game like that. For one, Scum love talking about past games (you yourself are complicit in this). For two, it's an opportunity to post and be active and have it not have anything to do with the current game.</quote>No, he didn't.Kirby321 posted... </cite><quote>Does chang usually have strong opinions? I thought he got mislynched in Star Wars Mafia because he had a complete lack of strong opinions (granted, that was Chris manipulating everything, but still).I don't think chang having a lack of strong opinions is an issue. I think his current opinion is completely lackluster, though.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 10/11/22 7:59:37 PM #433:	Kirby321 posted... I completely forgot MZero was in this game oof --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:968651142] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>Kirby321 posted... </cite><quote>I completely forgot MZero was in this game oof</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 10/11/22 8:19:53 PM #435:	You forgot, Han? So you're claiming IGCD Corrik and Chang came to mind without referring to the player list then? Can you elaborate on why your mind went to them? --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:968651574] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>You forgot, Han? So you're claiming IGCD Corrik and Chang came to mind without referring to the player list then? Can you elaborate on why your mind went to them?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueCrystalTear 10/11/22 8:20:35 PM #436:	Caught up! I appreciate being the subject of discussion for quite a while during my absence. (lol, just kidding) I really don't like that Kirby wanted me to claim out of nowhere on Day 1. REALLY don't. Wanting someone to claim when they're not getting votes is extremely harmful to town, regardless of the person's role. I saw that and went "WHAT?" While I'm glad he dropped that, the fact that he suggested it at all has made me leery of him. I have no idea what to make of Chang. Lots of arguments he seemed a little late for. Not sure if that's timing or if he's trying to beat a dead horse to get a mislynch. Corrik isn't posting anything of value - like was said, the "competent scum team" comment could definitely be a statement made in the know - and is being dodgy. It's very uncharacteristic of him from my experiences with him. I don't like that. MZero is way too quiet, and I don't like that either. Was he not very quiet as scum the last few times he rolled that way? Good a time as any to just put a vote down to see if he even realizes this game has started. ##vote: MZero That's four suspects I have right now after reading this. Still haven't completely cleared Sultan either. --- Come check out my movie watchthrough topic: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80167031 <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:968651594] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>Caught up! I appreciate being the subject of discussion for quite a while during my absence. (lol, just kidding) I really don't like that Kirby wanted me to claim out of nowhere on Day 1. REALLY don't. Wanting someone to claim when they're not getting votes is extremely harmful to town, regardless of the person's role. I saw that and went "WHAT?" While I'm glad he dropped that, the fact that he suggested it at all has made me leery of him. I have no idea what to make of Chang. Lots of arguments he seemed a little late for. Not sure if that's timing or if he's trying to beat a dead horse to get a mislynch. Corrik isn't posting anything of value - like was said, the "competent scum team" comment could definitely be a statement made in the know - and is being dodgy. It's very uncharacteristic of him from my experiences with him. I don't like that. MZero is way too quiet, and I don't like that either. Was he not very quiet as scum the last few times he rolled that way? Good a time as any to just put a vote down to see if he even realizes this game has started. ##vote: MZero That's four suspects I have right now after reading this. Still haven't completely cleared Sultan either.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 10/11/22 8:25:20 PM #438:	Lopen posted... You forgot, Han? So you're claiming IGCD Corrik and Chang came to mind without referring to the player list then? Can you elaborate on why your mind went to them? Yes. Because Chang was the subject of conversation Corrik has given us "I have bad news", 7 hours of silence, "I have found nothing." and IGCD finagled a bit on page 1 then popped out. They were who I thought of in terms of "people who need to do more", and MZero didn't make the list as I did not recall a single post he has made. BlueCrystalTear posted... Caught up! I appreciate being the subject of discussion for quite a while during my absence. (lol, just kidding) I really don't like that Kirby wanted me to claim out of nowhere on Day 1. REALLY don't. Wanting someone to claim when they're not getting votes is extremely harmful to town, regardless of the person's role. I saw that and went "WHAT?" While I'm glad he dropped that, the fact that he suggested it at all has made me leery of him. I have no idea what to make of Chang. Lots of arguments he seemed a little late for. Not sure if that's timing or if he's trying to beat a dead horse to get a mislynch. Corrik isn't posting anything of value - like was said, the "competent scum team" comment could definitely be a statement made in the know - and is being dodgy. It's very uncharacteristic of him from my experiences with him. I don't like that. MZero is way too quiet, and I don't like that either. Was he not very quiet as scum the last few times he rolled that way? Good a time as any to just put a vote down to see if he even realizes this game has started. ##vote: MZero That's four suspects I have right now after reading this. Still haven't completely cleared Sultan either. Who do you think is Town atm? --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:968651696] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>Lopen posted... </cite><quote>You forgot, Han? So you're claiming IGCD Corrik and Chang came to mind without referring to the player list then? Can you elaborate on why your mind went to them?</quote>Yes.Because Chang was the subject of conversationCorrik has given us "I have bad news", 7 hours of silence, "I have found nothing."and IGCD finagled a bit on page 1 then popped out.They were who I thought of in terms of "people who need to do more", and MZero didn't make the list as I did not recall a single post he has made.BlueCrystalTear posted... </cite><quote>Caught up! I appreciate being the subject of discussion for quite a while during my absence. (lol, just kidding) I really don't like that Kirby wanted me to claim out of nowhere on Day 1. REALLY don't. Wanting someone to claim when they're not getting votes is extremely harmful to town, regardless of the person's role. I saw that and went "WHAT?" While I'm glad he dropped that, the fact that he suggested it at all has made me leery of him. I have no idea what to make of Chang. Lots of arguments he seemed a little late for. Not sure if that's timing or if he's trying to beat a dead horse to get a mislynch. Corrik isn't posting anything of value - like was said, the "competent scum team" comment could definitely be a statement made in the know - and is being dodgy. It's very uncharacteristic of him from my experiences with him. I don't like that. MZero is way too quiet, and I don't like that either. Was he not very quiet as scum the last few times he rolled that way? Good a time as any to just put a vote down to see if he even realizes this game has started. ##vote: MZero That's four suspects I have right now after reading this. Still haven't completely cleared Sultan either.</quote>Who do you think is Town atm?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PunishedBen 10/11/22 9:21:23 PM #439:	If scum is playing the inactive game then my mind goes to HB, Corrik, IGCD, maybe Chang, and yes at this point an Mzero who is this silent is always scum. Could be the case as I've really found myself vibing with a lot of the more active people already at one point or another. Sbell, Han, Ctes, Poppy, Lopen. And of course Kirby and Sultan. If any of these feel like they could be scum bullshitting their way through so far it would be lopen. He's also someone who I know is great at bullshitting, going off the two times I've seen him as scum. --- https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/26864890/ <cite>PunishedBen posted [p:968652788] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>If scum is playing the inactive game then my mind goes to HB, Corrik, IGCD, maybe Chang, and yes at this point an Mzero who is this silent is always scum. Could be the case as I've really found myself vibing with a lot of the more active people already at one point or another. Sbell, Han, Ctes, Poppy, Lopen. And of course Kirby and Sultan. If any of these feel like they could be scum bullshitting their way through so far it would be lopen. He's also someone who I know is great at bullshitting, going off the two times I've seen him as scum. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueCrystalTear 10/11/22 9:23:25 PM #440:	HanOfTheNekos posted... Who do you think is Town atm? You and Lopen are both acting very differently than I've seen you act as scum, so you two. I also like HB. Namely for this reply to SBell: Hbthebattle posted... Are you willfully ignoring the context behind "his last game ended super badly for him, causing a ton of people to jump on his train and he didnt know what to do"? Like, you know EXACTLY why he's acting like that, dude. That isn't a scumtell. Presuming "acting like that" refers to me making self-deprecating jokes about being suspected at the very start of the game. If "acting like that" refers to anything aside from that, however... I think I'm reading into things too much. I don't like SBell's obsession about my first post; he didn't drop it until HB reamed him. I was 100% just making a joke about my last game and he acted like oh noes I confirmed myself scumx0rz!!!!1! Relax. That said, I'm not sure if I'd say he's scum or bad town yet. Leaning the latter. He was much more obviously scum with how he badgered me around last game, but he too could be changing his strategy, much like I wanted to make it clear: Don't take my first post so seriously. IGCD needs to show up but he might be busy with something, as happens. So... in no alphabetical order by tier: Town reads: Han, HB, Lopen (and myself of course) Favorable gut reads: Ben, Poppy ???: ctes, Red Unfavorable reads: IGCD, SBell, Sultan Potential scum: Chang, Corrik, Kirby, MZero All that said I am exhausted from today so I will have to revisit everything tomorrow to see if this holds up. --- Come check out my movie watchthrough topic: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80167031 <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:968652831] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>HanOfTheNekos posted... </cite><quote>Who do you think is Town atm?</quote>You and Lopen are both acting very differently than I've seen you act as scum, so you two.I also like HB. Namely for this reply to SBell:Hbthebattle posted... </cite><quote>Are you willfully ignoring the context behind "his last game ended super badly for him, causing a ton of people to jump on his train and he didnt know what to do"? Like, you know EXACTLY why he's acting like that, dude. That isn't a scumtell.</quote>Presuming "acting like that" refers to me making self-deprecating jokes about being suspected at the very start of the game. If "acting like that" refers to anything aside from that, however... I think I'm reading into things too much.I don't like SBell's obsession about my first post; he didn't drop it until HB reamed him. I was 100% just making a joke about my last game and he acted like oh noes I confirmed myself scumx0rz!!!!1! Relax. That said, I'm not sure if I'd say he's scum or bad town yet. Leaning the latter. He was much more obviously scum with how he badgered me around last game, but he too could be changing his strategy, much like I wanted to make it clear: Don't take my first post so seriously.IGCD needs to show up but he might be busy with something, as happens.So... in no alphabetical order by tier:Town reads: Han, HB, Lopen (and myself of course)Favorable gut reads: Ben, Poppy???: ctes, RedUnfavorable reads: IGCD, SBell, SultanPotential scum: Chang, Corrik, Kirby, MZeroAll that said I am exhausted from today so I will have to revisit everything tomorrow to see if this holds up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Obellisk 10/11/22 10:01:34 PM #441:	BlueCrystalTear posted... I don't like SBell's obsession about my first post; he didn't drop it until HB reamed him. I was 100% just making a joke about my last game and he acted like oh noes I confirmed myself scumx0rz!!!!1! Relax. That said, I'm not sure if I'd say he's scum or bad town yet. Leaning the latter. He was much more obviously scum with how he badgered me around last game, but he too could be changing his strategy, much like I wanted to make it clear: Don't take my first post so seriously. you clearly didn't read anything I was saying today and are a bit fixated on yourself. --- (\____/) ( SBell ) <cite>Obellisk posted [p:968653641] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>BlueCrystalTear posted... </cite><quote>I don't like SBell's obsession about my first post; he didn't drop it until HB reamed him. I was 100% just making a joke about my last game and he acted like oh noes I confirmed myself scumx0rz!!!!1! Relax. That said, I'm not sure if I'd say he's scum or bad town yet. Leaning the latter. He was much more obviously scum with how he badgered me around last game, but he too could be changing his strategy, much like I wanted to make it clear: Don't take my first post so seriously.</quote>you clearly didn't read anything I was saying today and are a bit fixated on yourself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Obellisk 10/11/22 10:13:03 PM #442:	Like if your take away from the day is that I took your garbage entrance to this game seriously... like what are you even talking about? --- (\____/) ( SBell ) <cite>Obellisk posted [p:968653876] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>Like if your take away from the day is that I took your garbage entrance to this game seriously...like what are you even talking about?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueCrystalTear 10/11/22 10:13:44 PM #443:	BlueCrystalTear posted... All that said I am exhausted from today so I will have to revisit everything tomorrow to see if this holds up. --- Come check out my movie watchthrough topic: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80167031 <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:968653887] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>BlueCrystalTear posted... </cite><quote>All that said I am exhausted from today so I will have to revisit everything tomorrow to see if this holds up.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hbthebattle 10/11/22 10:19:33 PM #444:	Hmmm, Mzero was a lot more active by this time last game (and completely destroyed my ass) but I don't think it'd be fair or logical to condemn him before he gets a chance to actually post. --- :) <cite>Hbthebattle posted [p:968654001] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>Hmmm, Mzero was a lot more active by this time last game (and completely destroyed my ass) but I don't think it'd be fair or logical to condemn him before he gets a chance to actually post.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hbthebattle 10/11/22 10:28:15 PM #445:	BlueCrystalTear posted... Corrik isn't posting anything of value - like was said, the "competent scum team" comment could definitely be a statement made in the know - and is being dodgy. It's very uncharacteristic of him from my experiences with him. I don't like that. What sort of experiences are you talking about here? Corrik basically refusing to play the game on Day 1 feels NAI for him. --- :) <cite>Hbthebattle posted [p:968654142] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>BlueCrystalTear posted... </cite><quote>Corrik isn't posting anything of value - like was said, the "competent scum team" comment could definitely be a statement made in the know - and is being dodgy. It's very uncharacteristic of him from my experiences with him. I don't like that. </quote>What sort of experiences are you talking about here? Corrik basically refusing to play the game on Day 1 feels NAI for him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 10/11/22 10:28:55 PM #446:	You scared to go after me, BCT? --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7 Currently playing: Control (X1) <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:968654150] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>You scared to go after me, BCT?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 10/11/22 10:30:06 PM #447:	You sure chose the guy not here to put your vote on instead of me. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7 Currently playing: Control (X1) <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:968654170] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>You sure chose the guy not here to put your vote on instead of me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hbthebattle 10/11/22 10:33:50 PM #448:	#scummoned --- :) <cite>Hbthebattle posted [p:968654237] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>#scummoned </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueCrystalTear 10/11/22 10:34:55 PM #449:	Hbthebattle posted... Hmmm, Mzero was a lot more active by this time last game (and completely destroyed my ass) but I don't think it'd be fair or logical to condemn him before he gets a chance to actually post. There are two scenarios: He's scum and isn't happy about that He hasn't realized the game has started Having a few votes on him is good either way. Either we get scum or we get a panicked MZero coming in here who'll quickly confirm himself town. I will take my vote off if he suddenly has 5 on him; all I want is a little pressure on him because the last two games I watched where he was scum, he hardly said anything. Hbthebattle posted... What sort of experiences are you talking about here? Corrik basically refusing to play the game on Day 1 feels NAI for him. He says he refuses to play the game on day 1, but usually he actually contributes things, often by being combative, before going "See you all Day 2." Or maybe I'm misremembering. Corrik7 posted... You scared to go after me, BCT? No. Do you want me to put my vote on you? I will if you ask nicely. But HB: This is a case in point. --- Come check out my movie watchthrough topic: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80167031 <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:968654260] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>Hbthebattle posted... </cite><quote>Hmmm, Mzero was a lot more active by this time last game (and completely destroyed my ass) but I don't think it'd be fair or logical to condemn him before he gets a chance to actually post.</quote>There are two scenarios:He's scum and isn't happy about thatHe hasn't realized the game has startedHaving a few votes on him is good either way. Either we get scum or we get a panicked MZero coming in here who'll quickly confirm himself town. I will take my vote off if he suddenly has 5 on him; all I want is a little pressure on him because the last two games I watched where he was scum, he hardly said anything.Hbthebattle posted... </cite><quote>What sort of experiences are you talking about here? Corrik basically refusing to play the game on Day 1 feels NAI for him.</quote>He says he refuses to play the game on day 1, but usually he actually contributes things, often by being combative, before going "See you all Day 2." Or maybe I'm misremembering.Corrik7 posted... </cite><quote>You scared to go after me, BCT?</quote>No. Do you want me to put my vote on you? I will if you ask nicely.But HB: This is a case in point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hbthebattle 10/11/22 10:35:21 PM #450:	Corrik7 posted... You sure chose the guy not here to put your vote on instead of me. Anyway now that you are here, what's your thoughts on some of the current trains like Chang's? --- :) <cite>Hbthebattle posted [p:968654273] in YGO Master... [t:80193886]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted... </cite><quote>You sure chose the guy not here to put your vote on instead of me.</quote>Anyway now that you are here, what's your thoughts on some of the current trains like Chang's?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Board 8 > YGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 1 - Ah yes the worst element: Rookie.