Board 8 > Fire Emblem Topic 5: Kaga will wait patiently for his revenge...

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Mewtwo59
12/11/22 4:25:23 PM
#101:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Did they have to make the one bisexual dude they put in the game mega horny, lol.

I guess they made sure the one bisexual girl was a full on stalker, so...

At least 3H did this a little better.

You can't mention how terribly this game handles LGBT characters without mentioning Soleil. That one I blame more on gameplay forcing her to have S rank pairings with MCorrin/the other 2nd gen boys, but she honestly should've just been a female Corrin only S support. Her support with male Corrin is especially yikes.

UshiromiyaEva posted...
Oh NOW I rememeber this character.

The Yaoi Girl.

As for her, she's lucky Soleil exists or she'd easily be the worst Conquest kid. Though I do get a little bit of enjoyment out of the fact that she doesn't exist if you go through with the only gay pairing in the game.

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MacArrowny
12/11/22 4:33:13 PM
#102:


Mewtwo59 posted...
You can't mention how terribly this game handles LGBT characters without mentioning Soleil. That one I blame more on gameplay forcing her to have S rank pairings with MCorrin/the other 2nd gen boys, but she honestly should've just been a female Corrin only S support. Her support with male Corrin is especially yikes.
She's just straight in the Japanese version as I recall. I enjoy the changes they made with her though.

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KamikazePotato
12/11/22 4:54:09 PM
#103:


Almost forgot about this

In the Japanese release of the game, a female character named Soleil identifies as bisexual, with a preference for women. However, she's terrible at actually talking to other women, losing her composure and feeling she can't be a "strong and cool woman" around them. Sometimes this is played for laughs, with Soleil fainting around women she likes.

Here's where it starts to get really dodgy. If the customisable player character is male, a conversation scene has him spike Soleil's drink with a magic powder, making her see men as women and women as men. The intent is so she can practise being around actual women without getting flustered, allowing her to focus on her conversations with them even though she's seeing them as male. Once the potion wears off, she finds herself attracted to the male character, saying she fell in love with the female version but now loves him as a man. She even proposes, and renounces her bisexuality.

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LuisSera
12/11/22 4:55:00 PM
#104:


Mewtwo59 posted...

As for her, she's lucky Soleil exists or she'd easily be the worst Conquest kid. Though I do get a little bit of enjoyment out of the fact that she doesn't exist if you go through with the only gay pairing in the game.

  • Nina is the most popular female child and 10th over all female in the official character popularity poll held on the game's official site.


Never get between a Japanese Fire Emblem fan and their BL I guess.

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KamikazePotato
12/11/22 4:56:33 PM
#105:


LuisSera posted...
As for her, she's lucky Soleil exists or she'd easily be the worst Conquest kid. Though I do get a little bit of enjoyment out of the fact that she doesn't exist if you go through with the only gay pairing in the game.

* Nina is the most popular female child and 10th over all female in the official character popularity poll held on the game's official site.

Never get between a Japanese Fire Emblem fan and their BL I guess.
Character popularity polls in JRPG games are dominated by yaoi enthusiasts. I learned this from the Tales series, lol

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LuisSera
12/11/22 4:59:53 PM
#106:


A little more digging comes up with Forrest as the most popular kid overall, which seems consistent with this I suppose!

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UshiromiyaEva
12/11/22 5:06:23 PM
#107:


No matter what happens, these games were worth it for Selkie and Velouria.

They saw how much everyone hated the loser animal kid in Awakening and fixed that right up.

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Kenri
12/11/22 5:18:43 PM
#108:


Mewtwo59 posted...
This was one of the dumbest chapters, plot wise. Zola wins the war for Nohr, but Corrin says "That's not honorable!" as if Nohr isn't a bunch of villains and decides to fight Zola instead. It's even dumber because this is the second chapter in a row where that happens.
  • Win the war for your side
  • Win it practically bloodlessly
  • Tell the prince kid who supports pacifism and changes to Nohr
  • Be told you're dishonorable
  • They refuse to elaborate further
  • Die

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UshiromiyaEva
12/11/22 6:11:17 PM
#109:


Gonna say right now that I think the feature that hurts me the most in these games when it's unavailable is showing stat caps.

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TeamRocketElite
12/11/22 6:13:31 PM
#110:


"Don't need to show stat caps if it isn't plausible to reach a stat cap" ~Three Houses

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UshiromiyaEva
12/11/22 6:17:52 PM
#111:


Lol, if it's uncapped that's a whole different ballgame.

But I'm throwing down all these statues which raise stat caps and I have no idea what the stat caps are, so I feel absolutely nothing building them.

If I could do something in Thracia that showed that bar getting one pixel longer on Olwen's magic I'd lose it.

Also I miss gaining weapon rank on promotion.

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UshiromiyaEva
12/11/22 6:44:12 PM
#112:


Stuck away from the game for a few hours and now I'm just browsing FE videos lol.

Someone put all the Engage gameplay so far together if anyone was interested.

https://youtu.be/JXEhziRlxcA

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Panthera
12/11/22 6:49:14 PM
#113:


Kenri posted...
* Win the war for your side
* Win it practically bloodlessly
* Tell the prince kid who supports pacifism and changes to Nohr
* Be told you're dishonorable
* They refuse to elaborate further
* Die

Zola was the hero Fateslandia needed, but not the one they deserved

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UshiromiyaEva
12/12/22 2:18:51 AM
#114:


Having just finished this , definitely a contender for least favorite map in the series.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/2/1/AAeolZAAD-vd.jpg

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Mewtwo59
12/12/22 2:32:02 AM
#115:


You know a map is bad when I'd rather play Thracia 24x again over it. At least you're through the worst of it now, since you've beaten ninja cave, kitsune lair, and Mr. Fuga's Wild Ride. It's still a little rough from here, but it's better than it has been.

Also, speaking of kitsune lair, Corrin goes through the whole game trying to avoid killing as much as possible, and then he gets to the kitsune lair and goes full Anakin on them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfevBIsVG1o

Just another example of Conquest's "quality" writing.

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tcaz2
12/12/22 2:34:04 AM
#116:


Wind map is awesome

It's not the best map but its definitely top 15 entire series.
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Kenri
12/12/22 2:43:22 AM
#117:


Mewtwo59 posted...
You know a map is bad when I'd rather play Thracia 24x again over it. At least you're through the worst of it now, since you've beaten ninja cave, kitsune lair, and Mr. Fuga's Wild Ride. It's still a little rough from here, but it's better than it has been.
until he starts revelation lmao

though the shitty maps there are at least not difficult, just horribly boring

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UshiromiyaEva
12/12/22 2:52:27 AM
#118:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/2/7/AAeolZAAD-vj.jpg

https://youtu.be/UnyBJJI2eqs

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Kenri
12/12/22 3:08:10 AM
#119:


I was actually kinda sad the first time Lilith died

The second time I just laughed

rest in piss birdfish

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UshiromiyaEva
12/12/22 3:15:45 AM
#120:


Who needs Lilith anyways, we have NEW Lilith now.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/3/3/AAeolZAAD-vp.jpg


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Dark_Young_Link
12/12/22 4:47:57 AM
#121:


Mewtwo59 posted...
Also, speaking of kitsune lair, Corrin goes through the whole game trying to avoid killing as much as possible, and then he gets to the kitsune lair and goes full Anakin on them:


This may not be a popular opinion in this topic, but honestly? Fuck Kaden and fuck the kitsune. He brought it upon himself and his clan. He literally tricks you into thinking he's friendly with you long enough to trap you and force you to fight for your life, and all because "The elder said humans will kill us!". It pains me to defend Corrin in any capacity, but Kaden was the one who brought ruin upon himself.

Compare that to Keaton, who makes it clear he doesn't trust you and wants you to fuck off. He's willing to let you go after you lower your weapons. The fighting only happens because a certain someone killed one of his own, and at that point he has no reason to believe "We have no idea why that happened!" (And to be fair, you have no way of proving this).

No shade if you happen to like the character, I just think that whole chapter was just.... awful.

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KamikazePotato
12/12/22 5:00:04 AM
#122:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/2/7/AAeolZAAD-vj.jpg
This screenshot exudes comedy.

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TeamRocketElite
12/12/22 8:50:32 AM
#123:


RIP Lilith

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Panthera
12/12/22 10:13:10 AM
#124:


Dark_Young_Link posted...


This may not be a popular opinion in this topic, but honestly? Fuck Kaden and fuck the kitsune. He brought it upon himself and his clan. He literally tricks you into thinking he's friendly with you long enough to trap you and force you to fight for your life, and all because "The elder said humans will kill us!". It pains me to defend Corrin in any capacity, but Kaden was the one who brought ruin upon himself.

Yeah I have a hard time sympathizing with the guy who goes out of his way to try to fight to the death with you when he could have very easily kept his distance or told you up front that he wouldn't help or literally anything other than luring you in so he can try to kill you.

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Mewtwo59
12/12/22 2:00:59 PM
#125:


Oh, I don't feel bad for Kaden at all. I just find it funny that Corrin committed genocide of the kitsune after going out of his way to avoid killing up to that point. And even if the story was well written enough that I did feel bad for Kaden, all my sympathy for him would've gone out of the window after playing through that chapter (thank goodness for Effie with a beastkiller, because that chapter would've been even worse if I couldn't have her solo it.)

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Kenri
12/12/22 3:20:44 PM
#126:


I sorta liked the kitsune lair chapter. Not the story part (awful) but the map gimmick was at least an interesting challenge.

UshiromiyaEva posted...
Who needs Lilith anyways, we have NEW Lilith now.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/3/3/AAeolZAAD-vp.jpg
here's hoping this thing dies too

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KamikazePotato
12/12/22 3:38:53 PM
#127:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/2/7/AAIpcmAAD-1z.jpg

sorry for spoilers

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UshiromiyaEva
12/12/22 3:48:04 PM
#128:


Kenri posted...
here's hoping this thing dies too

This is the dude who gives you the gacha crystals so he's an immortal little pupper.

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tcaz2
12/12/22 3:50:37 PM
#129:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
This is the dude who gives you the gacha crystals so he's an immortal little pupper.

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Mewtwo59
12/12/22 4:35:04 PM
#130:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
This is the dude who gives you the gacha crystals so he's an immortal little pupper.

Lilith had a gameplay function too and that didn't help her!

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UshiromiyaEva
12/12/22 4:39:12 PM
#131:


Mewtwo59 posted...
Lilith had a gameplay function too and that didn't help her!

Yeah but who wants to take bets as to whether Gacha Pupper is gonna have a push Y to go to the eshop button?

They weren't letting you pay $4.99 to buy 10 packs of Lilith Milk.

I don't actually think they're gonna do this lol

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UshiromiyaEva
12/12/22 5:46:46 PM
#132:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/9/4/AAeolZAAD-22.jpg

Spirit Dust not worth killing Sakura.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/9/5/AAeolZAAD-23.jpg

Man, fuck Conquest.

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tcaz2
12/12/22 6:30:55 PM
#133:


Honestly a big reason why I dislike both Fates and 3 Houses story is I don't enjoy stories where they railroad me into doing something I don't want to do (like killing or causing harm to characters I don't want to do so to, simply because the plot of that route demands it).

Now 3 Houses I don't think is a bad story (though I do think it has some glaring problems as well) unlike Fates, it's just not for me.
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KamikazePotato
12/12/22 6:39:16 PM
#134:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Wow, just barely coming in there at the finish line. I did NOT expect this chapter to be that mechanically interesting.

UshiromiyaEva posted...
Man, fuck Conquest.

The duality of man

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UshiromiyaEva
12/12/22 6:40:02 PM
#135:


I do think my biggest problem with Three Houses is the lack of a Golden (....you know what I mean) route. Would have honestly killed for one. I know Revelations is kind of a laughing stock and I'm looking forward to finding out why, but I really do love the CONCEPT of it.

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Kenri
12/12/22 6:40:32 PM
#136:


KamikazePotato posted...
sorry for spoilers
LMAO thank you so much, I had this same idea but was too lazy to actually do it.

UshiromiyaEva posted...
Man, fuck Conquest.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/3/3/AACm-yAAD-3d.jpg

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KamikazePotato
12/12/22 6:45:13 PM
#137:


Honestly, my favorite part of Three Houses' story is that it doesn't have a golden route.

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Kenri
12/12/22 6:48:27 PM
#138:


Hot take but the secret 3H golden route is just Azure Moon

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UshiromiyaEva
12/12/22 6:51:26 PM
#139:


What can I say, I'm a sucker for the happy feel good ending!

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/4/4/AAeolZAAD-3o.jpg

Well you see, I have this topic series...and I gotta play all the games...

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UshiromiyaEva
12/12/22 6:53:17 PM
#140:


God this is such unintentional comedy.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/4/5/AAeolZAAD-3p.jpg

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KamikazePotato
12/12/22 6:55:37 PM
#141:


People dunk on Takumi for daring to not constantly suck Corrin's dick like everyone else but his feelings are sooooo justified

Even then his justified feelings can't withstand the power of an S Rank Support

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tcaz2
12/12/22 7:09:07 PM
#142:


I think I'd also have much less of a problem with that aspect of 3 Houses if Byleth WASN'T basically an Avatar-lite. If they weren't silent and had their own thoughts and motivations behind what they were doing it would be a lot easier to enjoy the story for me. But when you're giving me a ton of choice (well, really, "choices", because most choices in 3H actually are completely meaningless, but they clearly want to give the illusion of choice) in everything EXCEPT the major story beats, it takes me aaaaaaaaaall the way out of it.
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UshiromiyaEva
12/12/22 7:09:35 PM
#143:


I definitely have come around on Takumi a bit.

Not enough that I'm going to subject Elise to him since the mod thing for Rev isn't gonna work out, but still.

Camilla will scare him into line.

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tcaz2
12/12/22 7:12:28 PM
#144:


When I paired royals I went Ryoma x Elise, Xander x Sakura, Takumi x Carmilla, and Hinoka x Leo because all of them seemed the most funny.

Though first time through Revelations I married Elise. <3 Elise.

I went with either Hinoka or Oboro in Birthright (I honestly can't remember which I did first), went with Ophelia in Conquest, and then Elise in Revelations.
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UshiromiyaEva
12/12/22 7:15:15 PM
#145:


tcaz2 posted...
When I paired royals I went Ryoma x Elise, Xander x Sakura, Takumi x Carmilla, and Hinoka x Leo because all of them seemed the most funny.


I'll be doing this exactly. Haven't planned it out super hard other than Basara Shiro and Dark Flier Forrest, but I'll mess around.

I'm....ASSUMING Rev has grinding like Birthright, so I can get wacky with it if need be.

Oh, and the reason I decided to go with those pairings to begin with is that Hinoka Siegbert hurts my eyes, lol.

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Mewtwo59
12/12/22 7:43:17 PM
#146:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
What can I say, I'm a sucker for the happy feel good ending!

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/4/4/AAeolZAAD-3o.jpg

Well you see, I have this topic series...and I gotta play all the games...

They have lines like this to make you feel bad about not picking Hoshido, and then it turns out that you actually aren't blood related to these people either, because you need to be able to romance them for whatever reason. Granted, Takumi and the girls didn't know that, but the story gets even weaker when it's "Do I pick my stepfamily or this other stepfamily I hardly know?".

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UshiromiyaEva
12/12/22 8:02:26 PM
#147:


Game will be beaten tonight, I'm sure, once I can get back on it.

Looking at class options I'm the meantime and I think Great Master Siegbert is the way to go there. For Kiragi....Kishi Knight is easy but he can always do that...might partner him up with Midori to get Merchant/Mechanist?

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Panthera
12/12/22 8:22:36 PM
#148:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
I do think my biggest problem with Three Houses is the lack of a Golden (....you know what I mean) route. Would have honestly killed for one. I know Revelations is kind of a laughing stock and I'm looking forward to finding out why, but I really do love the CONCEPT of it.

The problem with golden routes is they turn the entire idea of choosing what to do into a waste of time since your options are just A) Be a moronic asshole, B) Be a stupid piece of shit, or C) Pick the obviously objectively correct option because you're not an imbecile who even considers A and B, right?

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TeamRocketElite
12/12/22 8:27:14 PM
#149:


There's also the option of cheating and using information gained from the other routes to create a golden route.

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UshiromiyaEva
12/12/22 8:30:32 PM
#150:


I kinda don't want to pick what I want though, lol. I've never been big on "your decisions matter", I want a focused linear narrative.

My actual (and literal) dream Three Houses scenario is a single narrative that uses the Divine Pulse mcguffin for timey wimey bullshit as an excuse to do something equivilant to the 3 base routes, going back in time after each one, before finally coming back to bring everything together to fight Nemesis.

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