Current Events > Wait, fatphobia is a legit thing?

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I just got notified by the moderation team that its real and actually being looked into by research.

I dont want to be late to the party on this. Is it a real thing?

Im obviously comparing it to homophobia or transphobia where the disdain is illogical.

I only hear fatphobia in regards to dating. So I dont believe its a real thing because fatasses arent being discriminated against in general. Just in who people want to date.

Thoughts? Am I off base? I genuinely dont know.

The only time I ever hear fatphobia is when a fat person loses weight and other fat people call them fat phobic

All I'ma say is, I've never heard it used in a legitimate way.

Fatphobics when they see a Fatty Mcbutterpants:
https://youtu.be/noSVMzPafZo

It's nonsensical garbage only used to shame people who don't want to date fat women. You'll never hear it said that women who won't date fat guys are fatphobic.

this will go well

of course its a real thing

garan posted...

It's nonsensical garbage only used to shame people who don't want to date fat women

Or shame those who no longer want to be fat themselves. Or those who have medical/health advice against being fat.

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Do you have an example of this happening?

You mean like fat kids being bullied for being fat in school or something?

Like, is someone missing out on jobs because theyre fat? Excluding physical requirements?

People avoid talking to fat people?

America is majority fat people. I find it unbelievably difficult to think fat people are being mistreated to a degree that a new term is made for it.

Many people will tell you that fat people are just dumb and don't understand that eating a bunch of food makes them fat. That would be fatphobic.

cuttin_in_farm posted...

I find it unbelievably difficult to think fat people are being mistreated to a degree that a new term is made for it.

Things that have been around for hundreds of years do not get to be called "new" unless it's in a historical context, of which this topic is not.

cuttin_in_farm posted...

And honestly, I may get modded for this. But who cares. Im heated tbh. Mod coulda just pmd me instead of being passive aggressive.

This feels like a white woman thing. The group that needs to be a victim for everything. Does anyone claim fatphobia in regards to men?

I know damn well this aint a thing in minority communities.

Who coined this term?

As with many things in America it traces its origins to the slave trades. One of the early "stereotypes" (it really didn't have much basis in reality, hence the quotes) was that black people ate far too much and thus had a predisposition towards being fat. This was especially true for women as African and European cultures had a different take on what constituted as sexy and in African culture having a full figure was considered hot. The term as we really recognize it comes from academia when talking about the excess lengths people would go to in harassing people of color, in particular African American women, for their race.

ellis123 posted...

Things that have been around for hundreds of years do not get to be called "new" unless it's in a historical context, of which this topic is not.

Dude's a right-wing troll. Not sure anything he's ever said has been accurate.

Most people are being mistreated is this a joke

COVxy posted...

Many people will tell you that fat people are just dumb and don't understand that eating a bunch of food makes them fat. That would be fatphobic.

How is being wrong fatphobia? I appreciate you giving an actual example tho.

Thats even if I grant you the idea that majority of fat people dont have eating problems.

Like, yall are saying yea, its true.

But not giving actual examples.

I dont think its a great term, but what it describesdiscrimination against people based on their fatnessis definitely a thing. Its particularly a problem in the field of medicine, where fat people have trouble getting actual medical treatment because healthcare professionals tend to attribute any underlying health problems they are having to being overweight.

It's basically bullying but some fat people want a special victim badge instead of just being a regular victim(and yes...mistreating people due to their appearance is a ting...duh). Otherwise it does not exist in dating, fitness and other things like that...that's just entitled and quite frankly crazy people who happen to be fat trying to control others' speech, thoughts and actions.

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You just gonna ignore my question of clarification?

Is skinnyphonbia a thing too? Is being teased on it all it takes for something to be a phobia?

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Sorry, meant to quote this:

cuttin_in_farm posted...

Do you have an example of this happening?

You mean like fat kids being bullied for being fat in school or something?

cuttin_in_farm posted...

s being teased on it all it takes for something to be a phobia?

no it's more complicated than that

cuttin_in_farm posted...

You just gonna ignore my question of clarification?

Is skinnyphonbia a thing too? Is being teased on it all it takes for something to be a phobia?

"phobia" today is terminally online victim culture stuff. it is tacked on to make up new words for issues that already exist...and in some cases don't exist. easily 80% of posters here are the very ones spreading this thought process though so don't bother debating anyone on it.

MrToothHasYou posted...

I dont think its a great term, but what it describesdiscrimination against people based on their fatnessis definitely a thing. Its particularly a problem in the field of medicine, where fat people have trouble getting actual medical treatment because healthcare professionals tend to attribute any underlying health problems they are having to being overweight.

This is a good answer and something I can believe. Thank you.

Is this board skipping posts?

Oh_Boy_ posted...

Is this board skipping posts?

You probably just got blocked. Try to be less obnoxious

Conflict, Im disappointed. I like you. Youre a decent poster. Dunno what you were doing in this topic, but it wasnt helpful.

Thank you @shockthemonkey and @MrToothHasYou for giving great insight.

Ill take the term more seriously from now on. Ive only seen it in a dating sense, so I was ignorant to what people overweight face in life, clearly.

lol

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I take back what I just said.

Sorry. The mod got me heated, ngl. I hate being accused of fucking trolling when Im giving my honest views. If Im wrong, just lemme know. Fuck.

Thank you.

cuttin_in_farm posted...

I take back what I just said.

Sorry. The mod got me heated, ngl. I hate being accused of fucking trolling when Im giving my honest views. If Im wrong, just lemme know. Fuck.

Thank you.

On GameFAQs, honest views can be seen as trolling even if that was not the intention by the user.

If you keep getting moderated, its best to avoid participating in social debates even if you think you have a valid viewpoint you want to share. The simple act of being contrary to the accepted status quo is seen as trolling these days even if you werent insulting anyone or using derogatory language.

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I dunno why, bro. I dont have similar views or upbringing of most CE folks. But folks on CE are reallly fucking weird to me. Like, I am often times curious where most of yall even live.

But I try to keep in mind Im the minority. But sometimes I feel very confident about something and talk more sternly. But turns out, fatphobia is real.

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It was the passive aggressive kind where the post isnt deleted. Like, just reply to post in the damn topic instead. Or send me a pm.

I hate that ew, Im gonna assume this guys intentions instead of trying to be helpful BS that people do.

I suppose there may be peeps out there who outright don't like fat people....call them fat phobic. Whatever.

But i mostly see the term thrown at people who point out that being fat is unhealthy and is linked to a host of preventable diseases.

i refuse to believe you have never seen people get irrationally irritated at just seein fat people online. especially when a thread about fat acceptance stuff comes up, a ton of people always shoot straight past calling the idea unhealthy or silly and start posting like they lost a dog as a child because john candy sat on it

MarcyWarcy posted...

i refuse to believe you have never seen people get irrationally irritated at just seein fat people online.

Hate to tell you, but CE is literally the only online space I visit besides Youtube. And I dont see this shit on the YouTube stuff I watch.

MarcyWarcy posted...

especially when a thread about fat acceptance stuff comes up, a ton of people always shoot straight past calling the idea unhealthy or silly and start posting like they lost a dog as a child because john candy sat on it

Fat acceptance, like a lot of modern social movements, is often times show in a negative light.

The idea of it is sound. But not when it attempts to delude people that being obese is healthy. I think such extreme delusions getting extreme pushback is just desserts.

But you can disagree I guess.

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This. People saying it's "not a thing" are using the same kinds of arguments that people use to deny homophobia. Hyper focusing on the "phobia" part of the word and trying to downplay it by saying that no one is afraid of them. There's a ton of discrimination and prejudice that happen strictly due to someone being overweight. It may not be as severe as racism, homophobia, transphobia, etc., but it's absolutely a thing.

There's lots of articles on this stuff too

https://www.healthline.com/health/obesity/weight-discrimination#definition

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2022-03-15/weight-discrimination-remains-legal-in-most-of-the-u-s

i dont disagree that fat acceptance is not a very good idea when taken into a realm of "being fat should not be considered unhealthy." what im saying is people never stop at that in discussions about the subject and it always progresses into a bunch of people talking about how fat people are horrible idiots and the only way to rescue them from themselves is to endlessly shame them. which i would certainly call fatphobia

MarcyWarcy posted...

i dont disagree that fat acceptance is not a very good idea when taken into a realm of "being fat should not be considered unhealthy." what im saying is people never stop at that in discussions about the subject and it always progresses into a bunch of people talking about how fat people are horrible idiots and the only way to rescue them from themselves is to endlessly shame them. which i would certainly call fatphobia

This is fair.

This topic, coming on the heels of all the "body shaming" concern trolls posts regarding Andrew Tate, this topic is extra lulzy

cuttin_in_farm posted...

Fat acceptance, like a lot of modern social movements, is often times show in a negative light.

The idea of it is sound. But not when it attempts to delude people that being obese is healthy. I think such extreme delusions getting extreme pushback is just desserts.

But you can disagree I guess.

The amount of people who actually do that is greatly exaggerated. As you said: as a social movement it is *constantly* thrust into people's faces as being negative, which means that any time that it's ever actually done in that sort of improper way get thrown onto every right-wing Youtube channel + many major news sources as if it was actually a valid concern at all. Thus diluting the reality of the situation: that it's all about being able to disengage from actual concerns that people face. In so many ways it's the exact same as how when someone says "SJW" you immediately think of this teen/early-twenties girl with purple/pink/neon whatever hair: it's all a form of propaganda based around diluting an actual issue. And by constantly thrusting it in everyone's faces any time it does come up it is immediately hit with a massive wave of backlash due to just how prevalent it actually feels.

cuttin_in_farm posted...

I take back what I just said.

Sorry. The mod got me heated, ngl. I hate being accused of fucking trolling when Im giving my honest views. If Im wrong, just lemme know. Fuck.

Thank you.

It happens all the motherfucking time too.

I'm not trolling or talking shit this how I really think, like fuck.

It exists, but it's not stupid shit like giving the doctor your weight or Taylor Swift not liking when her scale calls her fat. That's just silly shit the internet clamors about.

Phobia would imply toubare afraid of it. Ive never encountered someone who is afraid of fat people. Note: insulting fat people is not the same as being afraid of fat people.

SauI_Goodman posted...

Phobia would imply toubare afraid of it.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/phobia

2
: intolerance or aversion for
photophobia

Fear of fat people is a thing. Apparently it's called Cacomorphobia.

GATTJT posted...

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/phobia

2
: intolerance or aversion for
photophobia

It's kinda crazy how many CE peeps be in their mid 30s and are barely just learning that words can have more than one definition.

How can people think fatphobia doesn't exist. I mean like it is almost half and half.