Current Events > Emma Frost is the best female member of the X-Men.

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One of the strongest telepaths in all of Marvel, genius level intellect(she made guns to swap minds and tech that can detect mutants, alongside outsmarting Xavier himself on occasion, plus her running a fortune 500 company), plus she's got multiple mutations as well as being the clear best choice in romantic partner for Cyclops, who is the best male X-Man.

Fight me, CE!

Psylocke was always my favorite female. >_> And Gambit my favorite male.

Never read the comics but isn't she a villain half the time?

Jupiter posted...

Psylocke was always my favorite female. >_> And Gambit my favorite male.

Not bad choices either! The only bad choice is Jean Grey...ugh.

Emma and Cyclops were always my favorite though. With Wolverine and Rogue a close second.

I thought she was a villain.

DeadBankerDream posted...

I thought she was a villain.

She stopped being a villian in like the 2000s.

Does she have an OF?

Verdekal posted...

Never read the comics but isn't she a villain half the time?

She was originally a villain but switched sides, and ever since she's basically been doing stuff that seems shady but is always a 'heart in the right place' situation.

Like the time she joined Norman Osborn's dark X-Men and basically worked as an informant for Cyclops and betrayed them at the best possible time.

She's loyal and trustworthy to those that matter. But she's not above killing to get things done.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/2/7/AARI02AAEGe3.jpg

She's a ho, lol. I've been reading a ton of X-Men lately, I like Armor, Kitty Pryde and Domino a lot.

MabusIncarnate posted...

She's a ho, lol. I've been reading a ton of X-Men lately, I like Armor, Kitty Pryde and Domino a lot.

She's no more a ho than any other male or female character in comics. Her heart belongs to Cyclops, though. And I wish they'd drop the toxic-ass relationship of him and Jean and stick to the superior one!

Ehm.

I do like Domino and Armor a ton. And Kitty is always gonna be one of my favorites. Recently, even, Kitty and Emma have been extremely close apparently. I need to catch up on X-Men but I suck at doing so lol. I even have a sub to Marvel Unlimited!

Bump!

I sub also, it's how i've been reading so much. I burned through the 2008(?) Astonishing X-Men and am on book 60 something now, started on X-Men Gold and Blue also. There's an ongoing reading/manga topic that we post a lot of book and comic stuff in, if you are into it and wanna talk more comics.

90s Rogue was still the best.

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Slayer_22 posted...

But she's not above killing to get things done.

That's a huge plus for me. God I hate when heroes get so stupid with the "omg we can't kill ever" rule. I've complained about this a few times on here, but Spider-Man pissed me off so much with it during the first Spider-Verse event with the inheritors. Literal immortal demon vampires are killing different Spider-men by the hundreds, and one of them manages to (temporarily) kill one and Peter lost his shit. "What are you doing?! We're heroes! We don't kill!!" Lost all respect for him with that lol.Pretty sure it was right after this said immortal killed another one of the Spider-Men...and since he's immortal, of course he came back. Wasn't even a real kill and Peter still lost his shit.

Slayer_22 posted...

I even have a sub to Marvel Unlimited!

I have the sub too. I need to get back on it lol. I haven't been reading much lately. But I only got into comics last year and haven't read a lot in general yet. I've read every single Spider-Woman run since the 2000s Origins, some Avengers stuff like the Secret Invasion (mostly for Spider-Woman), Civil War 2, the last 2 Silk runs, a few of the Spider-Verse events, some of the recent X-Men runs, and Carnage's current run. Read some other things too though including some DC stuff.

I think Spider-Woman might be my favorite Marvel character right now. She was the 3rd comic book character I bought (first were Naomi and Silk and I thought Silk was trash). I loved how ruthless she appeared in the first issue of her last run. Too bad it wasn't her normal personality and she was just raging out from that medicine and isn't quite THAT ruthless lol. But I still like her overall. She's not above killing either. Man did they fucking do her dirty in Spider-Man's comic, I heard.

MabusIncarnate posted...

I sub also, it's how i've been reading so much. I burned through the 2008(?) Astonishing X-Men and am on book 60 something now, started on X-Men Gold and Blue also. There's an ongoing reading/manga topic that we post a lot of book and comic stuff in, if you are into it and wanna talk more comics.

Ooh, link!

Sometimes I just blabber on and on about random comic stuff and I don't shut up, it'd be nice to direct that to interested parties rather than people that don't care lmao. I don't read a lot or often but when I do I get REALLY into it.

Jupiter posted...

That's a huge plus for me. God I hate when heroes get so stupid with the "omg we can't kill ever" rule. I've complained about this a few times on here, but Spider-Man pissed me off so much with it during the first Spider-Verse event with the inheritors. Literal immortal demon vampires are killing different Spider-men by the hundreds, and one of them manages to (temporarily) kill one and Peter lost his shit. "What are you doing?! We're heroes! We don't kill!!" Lost all respect for him with that lol.Pretty sure it was right after this said immortal killed another one of the Spider-Men...and since he's immortal, of course he came back. Wasn't even a real kill and Peter still lost his shit.

I have the sub too. I need to get back on it lol. I haven't been reading much lately. But I only got into comics last year and haven't read a lot in general yet. I've read every single Spider-Woman run since the 2000s Origins, some Avengers stuff like the Secret Invasion (mostly for Spider-Woman), Civil War 2, the last 2 Silk runs, a few of the Spider-Verse events, some of the recent X-Men runs, and Carnage's current run. Read some other things too though including some DC stuff.

I think Spider-Woman might be my favorite Marvel character right now. She was the 3rd comic book character I bought (first were Naomi and Silk and I thought Silk was trash). I loved how ruthless she appeared in the first issue of her last run. Too bad it wasn't her normal personality and she was just raging out from that medicine and isn't quite THAT ruthless lol. But I still like her overall. She's not above killing either. Man did they fucking do her dirty in Spider-Man's comic, I heard.

I get that, with Spidey though I always go back to him being a bit...broken. Kinda like Batman in a way. So I can get it, kinda. Though him critiquing them for killing an immortal being is...weird.

And yeah, Spider-Woman being so tied to Spidey himself kinda drags her down honestly. And it sucks, because I always found her interesting as a character.

Slayer_22 posted...

I get that, with Spidey though I always go back to him being a bit...broken. Kinda like Batman in a way. So I can get it, kinda. Though him critiquing them for killing an immortal being is...weird.

Yea, that was my biggest gripe. Like bro. These beings are immortal. And they are committing genocide. I think at that point they even knew they were immortal and that the guy was gonna come back in a few minutes/days.

And yea, I knew absolutely nothing about her (other than the fact she existed and had a 70s cartoon) just a year ago. I bought her comic on a whim since I was disappointed in Silk. I was just looking to get my feet wet into the comic world, and I wanted to start with learning more about the other Spider characters. I fell in love with Spider-Woman like from the first page or two of her 2020 run lol. Also, since I feel no nostalgia towards the red suit, and the fact I hate the color red, I actually liked her black suit she wore for a few issues in her last run lol. Although I do agree with the common complaint that the webbing shouldn't have been done as it makes her look more like she's team Spidey when she's actually her own thing.

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Jupiter posted...

Yea, that was my biggest gripe. Like bro. These beings are immortal. And they are committing genocide. I think at that point they even knew they were immortal and that the guy was gonna come back in a few minutes/days.

And yea, I knew absolutely nothing about her (other than the fact she existed and had a 70s cartoon) just a year ago. I bought her comic on a whim since I was disappointed in Silk. I was just looking to get my feet wet into the comic world, and I wanted to start with learning more about the other Spider characters. I fell in love with Spider-Woman like from the first page or two of her 2020 run lol. Also, since I feel no nostalgia towards the red suit, and the fact I hate the color red, I actually liked her black suit she wore for a few issues in her last run lol.

I loved her red suit myself, the first time I heard about her was Marvel Ultimate Alliance, where she calls Spidey cute, which I found hilarious.

But yeah, Jessica is awesome. And I never liked Silk as a character either. Always was a weird character. Doesn't help they tried to shack her up with Peter WHEN BLACK CAT AND MJ EXIST GRAAAH.

Wait so her costume is basically her in a bra? I dont think that would fly in the movies.

MelbuFrahma4 posted...

Wait so her costume is basically her in a bra? I dont think that would fly in the movies.

She's had a great many costumes. Most of the time they are extremely revealing, yes.

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Though my favorite is always her Phoenix Force outfit. Hnnnng.(That's the gold one up there.)

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Real talk, is there a bigger simp in all of Marvel than Namor. Dude basically spends his entire career lusting over women he can't have.

This was one of her outfits in X-Men First Class, might be slightly cleaned up if she shows again but i'm good with it.

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Compsognathus posted...

Real talk, is there a bigger simp in all of Marvel than Namor. Dude basically spends his entire career lusting over women he can't have.

Namor is second only to Thanos, but at least what Thanos does to get the girl is actually impressive. Namor gets hot and bothered by the prospect of grabbing Emma's missing arm stump.

Maybe at some point we'll see some Beast and Agent Brand furry love in the MCU

MabusIncarnate posted...

This was one of her outfits in X-Men First Class, might be slightly cleaned up if she shows again but i'm good with it.

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Not bad, I never saw that movie nor did I know Emma was in it. I...tried to avoid X-Men movies after Wolverine's lol.

But she looks really good for Emma. I got a few others in mind that could fit my girl but she's got the look down. Does she got the British accent?

I keep confusing her with killer frost

Emma Frost isn't even the best female telepath.

Starks posted...

I keep confusing her with killer frost

Killer Frost isn't even worthy of cleanining Emma's boots.

meestermj posted...

Emma Frost isn't even the best female telepath.

Mary Sues don't count!

You should really give First Class a shot, she's in it a lot, I don't believe she has the British accent but it's been a while since i've seen the movie. There's a lot of bad X-Men movies, but First Class and Days of Future Past are worth watching imo. I think if you are a fan, you'll appreciate both, and the variety of characters along with the stories. Logan is amazing.

MabusIncarnate posted...

You should really give First Class a shot, she's in it a lot, I don't believe she has the British accent but it's been a while since i've seen the movie. There's a lot of bad X-Men movies, but First Class and Days of Future Past are worth watching imo. I think if you are a fan, you'll appreciate both, and the variety of characters along with the stories. Logan is amazing.

Logan is the only one I saw, actually. Such a good movie.

I'll need to catch those movies. Are they on Disney + yet?

Yeah they should be on there still

January Jone's Emma Frost is easily the worst thing about First Class. She is just not a good actor.

Slayer_22 posted...

Mary Sues don't count!

Do you know how many female telepaths there are?

Hell she's not even the best blonde telepath.

meestermj posted...

Do you know how many female telepaths there are?

Hell she's not even the best blonde telepath.

Pretty sure Emma is classified as Omega though. And while others maybe stronger just straight telepathy she can turn her body to diamond which they can't.

Also Emma once rewired a dude's brain to bard whenever he saw boobs.

Then her and Black Widow flashed the dude and he got very sick.

She is the best female X-Men member:

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Or should that be Ex X-Men member.

I bet none of you lot here can name her without googling it.

WingsOfGood posted...

Pretty sure Emma is classified as Omega though. And while others maybe stronger just straight telepathy she can turn her body to diamond which they can't.

She isn't omega.
https://comicbook.com/marvel/news/marvel-x-men-omega-level-mutants-house-of-x/

meestermj posted...

Do you know how many female telepaths there are?

Hell she's not even the best blonde telepath.

I do, and she very easily is. I was talking about Jean.

Exodus ranked her in his top 5 telepaths(next to himself, Jean, Xavier, etc), she's outplayed Xavier himself(who is arguably the 2nd strongest current telepath).

Let's not forget, Emma sent a telepathic message to every mutant on earth without cerebro.

She's incredibly powerful and she's adept in the thing that most matters with telepaths: adept skill and finesse. That's how she beat Rachael and Xavier both.

imagine being an Omega Level Telepath

arguably the most important and powerful of all mutant abilities

but then people are like "well....you are not an Omega level mutant....sure you can like rewrite the minds of most the world population and stuff...but that is weaksauce!"

no wonder she is so feisty

Jupiter posted...

Psylocke was always my favorite female. >_> And Gambit my favorite male.

I agree on both. But Rogue is an extremely close 2nd

meestermj posted...

She isn't omega.
https://comicbook.com/marvel/news/marvel-x-men-omega-level-mutants-house-of-x/

The idea that the classification of Omega can only belong to one mutant is dumb.

If one mutant can throw a fastball at 110 MPH and another at 111 MPH, the latter would be Omega, not the former. It's a dumb classification system that's just an attempt to try and reel in power creep but it only makes the term more or less an award.

CassandraCroft posted...

She is the best female X-Men member:

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Or should that be Ex X-Men member.

I bet none of you lot here can name her without googling it.

I knew it was Fire-something. I was thinking Firebrand. I was close!

Slayer_22 posted...

The idea that the classification of Omega can only belong to one mutant is dumb.

If one mutant can throw a fastball at 110 MPH and another at 111 MPH, the latter would be Omega, not the former. It's a dumb classification system that's just an attempt to try and reel in power creep but it only makes the term more or less an award.

It's not a title, and isn't held by only one mutant.

From the writer himself at Marvel:

defining the term "omega level mutant" as "A mutant whose dominant power is deemed to register -- or reach -- an undefinable upper limit of that power's specific classification." In other words, it refers to a mutant whose capability with their mutant gift, at least in theory, cannot be surpassed.

Almost every mutant on that list of 14 is currently alive, and more than one is a telepath.

meestermj posted...

It's not a title, and isn't held by only one mutant.

From the writer himself at Marvel:
Almost every mutant on that list of 14 is currently alive, and more than one is a telepath.

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Even by the classification it gives itself, it should logically mean there can't be 2 Omega telepaths. The one who can hit 111 is the Omega. The one who can hit 110 isn't. Yet Hope and Jean are both there despite it making no sense.

It's just an award. Not a classification. The classification being broad makes more sense overall, because of this.

Slayer_22 posted...

Yet Hope and Jean are both there despite it making no sense.

Hope has completely different power than Jean though.

WingsOfGood posted...

Hope has completely different power than Jean though.

My bad, meant Quentin there lol. The two labeled 'telepathy'.

Slayer_22 posted...

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Even by the classification it gives itself, it should logically mean there can't be 2 Omega telepaths. The one who can hit 111 is the Omega. The one who can hit 110 isn't. Yet Hope and Jean are both there despite it making no sense.

It's just an award. Not a classification. The classification being broad makes more sense overall, because of this.

It addresses that in the Magneto v Forge comparison.

Forge isn't an Omega level for one reason: he has shown the upper limits of his power and someone else went beyond that.
Emma is in the same boat. She has shown the upper levels of her power and been surpassed.

Look at the telepaths on the list.
Quentin Quire. He has not shown the upper limits of his power yet, as he is still quite young.
Same with Hope and Rachel.
Their upper limit hasn't been determined, but by telepath standard they are far far above the rest.

Look at Ice Man. Not a single being alive with ice based powers has surpassed his greatest feats, and his power keeps growing.

So pretty much what makes someone Omega lv isn't necessarily their raw power in a ability or even being the best. But their theatrical limit and weather or not said limit has or can ever be surpassed.

A little weird but it sorta makes sense. Even if it kind gives the FU to anyone near, at or above their lv, but are likely near their limit and will inevitably be surpassed. So they don't classify as Omega.

Also I heard that Storm shouldn't be Omega by this definition because Thor can also control the weather and is arguably superior.