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wackyteen
02/03/23 4:20:32 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/9/3/AAPw6aAAEJc9.jpg

gunplagirl was right again. They won't just stop at restricting kids or teens or young adults.

This is genocide. This is genocide. Genocide. Genocide. Genocide. Genocide.

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pinky0926
02/03/23 4:23:05 AM
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Classic republican calling card. Say that liberals are jumping up and down at nothing while they clutch pearls at literal phantoms, say they're "just asking questions", and then boom - calls for dystopian horror legislation.

Just say you're worried about the children, that one always works.

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Medussa
02/03/23 4:28:52 AM
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seriously, at what point can i self-defense against this bullshit?

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Southernfatman
02/03/23 4:32:23 AM
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And the Republican voters cheer this on. They're all evil.

What makes things worse is that Democrats are soft on them. They're enablers and appeasers.

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pinky0926
02/03/23 4:35:54 AM
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Southernfatman posted...
And the Republican voters cheer this on. They're all evil.

What makes things worse is that Democrats are soft on them. They're enablers and appeasers.

If republicans are "let's wait for all the facts (and ignore them)", then dems are "let's reach a common ground (and get trampled on)"

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UnholyMudcrab
02/03/23 4:51:42 AM
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I'm fully aware that the right is fucking abhorrent, but sometimes it still manages to take me aback just how fucking abhorrent they are.

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pinky0926
02/03/23 4:54:43 AM
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Remember all those times JP tried to argue that he just had a nuanced take on trans people and that he knows they are real and that he just has contention with specific aspects

What a scumbag, lmao

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cuttin_in_farm
02/03/23 5:13:21 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
Remember all those times JP tried to argue that he just had a nuanced take on trans people and that he knows they are real and that he just has contention with specific aspects

What a scumbag, lmao

People can change overtime. He had a reasonable take at first.

But like Rowling and Chapelle, he let pushback turn him jaded into something I cant agree with.

Its like those villains who progress into wanting to destroy the world. Its a rather extreme reaction to being disagreed with.

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UnholyMudcrab
02/03/23 5:17:56 AM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
He had a reasonable take at first.
At no point has Jordan Peterson ever had a reasonable take on trans people, or anything else for that matter.

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UnfairRepresent
02/03/23 5:19:13 AM
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Yup

They start out "just asking questions"

And then retreat to extremists far right groups who accept them wholesale once they face blowback

religion does the same thing

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LazLemon
02/03/23 5:20:20 AM
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What exactly does 'outlaw transgender ideology' mean here?

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TurtleInFreedom
02/03/23 6:00:18 AM
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LazLemon posted...
What exactly does 'outlaw transgender ideology' mean here?
Elements that were first argued in feminist circles to justify lesbianism, something Judith Butler did.

But Trump doesn't know that nor does he really care lol
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GrandConjuraton
02/03/23 6:57:02 AM
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I can't even find the words to describe how horrifying these "people" are, or to describe how sick they make me feel. Humanity has failed.

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wackyteen
02/03/23 6:58:20 AM
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While I don't disagree with the feeling of needing to protect yourself, the last thing the trans community needs is for one of their own to pop off on an 'innocent Republican'

Even if said Republican had just murdered their dog.

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cuttin_in_farm
02/03/23 7:01:16 AM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
At no point has Jordan Peterson ever had a reasonable take on trans people, or anything else for that matter.

His original stance was I will refer to your wanted pronoun if asked, but not if mandated by law.

Which is reasonable. As his complaint was more at mandated speech.

You dont have to go all or nothing on this, bro.

But I wont derail the actual point of the topic to defend Peterson of all people.

Carry on.

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SenlinDescends
02/03/23 7:06:24 AM
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This sounds like a declaration of war.

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DarkRoast
02/03/23 7:08:28 AM
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Me: Can't wait to go back to being male after this pregnancy

GOP:

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Kloe_Rinz
02/03/23 7:08:50 AM
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We just need a couple of decades without republicans/the right in control of the government, just so this kind of monstrous thinking dies out a little bit
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wackyteen
02/03/23 7:09:33 AM
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SenlinDescends posted...
This sounds like a declaration of war.
"We're just protecting our children!" - *person stomping on the throat of a trans person*

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hockeybub89
02/03/23 7:32:40 AM
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Can we call it genocide now?

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gunplagirl
02/03/23 7:40:37 AM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
His original stance was I will refer to your wanted pronoun if asked, but not if mandated by law.

Which is reasonable. As his complaint was more at mandated speech.

You dont have to go all or nothing on this, bro.

But I wont derail the actual point of the topic to defend Peterson of all people.

Carry on.
He refused to gender students correctly when asked to and when pressure mounted the university reminded him that he was obligated to properly gender them. So no, that's backpedaling to say he ever would have used anyone's pronouns in any context.

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TheOtherMike
02/03/23 7:59:57 AM
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This is literal terrorism. Too bad we can't say which political party this is engaging in literal terrorism on this website.

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Antifar
02/03/23 8:03:32 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
We just need a couple of decades without republicans/the right in control of the government
We really don't. There's no reason to think giving them power will diminish their views.

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Fluttershy
02/03/23 8:40:08 AM
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What exactly does 'outlaw transgender ideology' mean here?

first things first, it means that being transgender is just being part of some ideology. that's meant to undermine its legitimacy; it's just a belief you can hold, a side you can take.

of course the tacit suggestion there is to take a side. and that's totally what they call stochastic terrorism.

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KiwiTerraRizing
02/03/23 8:40:51 AM
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Jordan Peterson is some dude, hes not an authority on anything

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Unsuprised_Pika
02/03/23 8:46:04 AM
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Supporting Trump should now be an instant ban.

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TheOtherMike
02/03/23 8:48:07 AM
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Fluttershy posted...
first things first, it means that being transgender is just being part of some ideology. that's meant to undermine its legitimacy; it's just a belief you can hold, a side you can take.

Yep. Literally the exact same tactic as calling being gay a "choice" or "lifestyle." The Republican playbook never changes, just their target.

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CyricZ
02/03/23 9:01:18 AM
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wackyteen posted...
This is genocide.


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Strider102
02/03/23 9:06:05 AM
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And some people were like "That'll never happen, stop fear mongering!"

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MetroidGamer666
02/03/23 9:07:01 AM
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LGBT for Trump!
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wackyteen
02/03/23 9:10:06 AM
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Strider102 posted...
And some people were like "That'll never happen, stop fear mongering!"
I figured they'd rest on their laurels about it longer

Guess the red puddle made them piss their pants about not having power for long so they're having to play their hand now instead of later.

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NozomisHusband
02/03/23 9:13:11 AM
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remember when trump tried to build a wall

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Jiek_Fafn
02/03/23 9:13:45 AM
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The ideology of existing? This is fucking disgusting. Moreso than usual from Trump

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Ruvan22
02/03/23 9:20:21 AM
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...
Jordan Peterson is some dude, hes not an authority on anything

I mean he's seen as an authority by a lot of people and held up as such by many people in power...
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ZMythos
02/03/23 9:29:00 AM
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So can we start calling Republicans fascist without getting modded yet?

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Garabandal
02/03/23 9:31:00 AM
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Jordan Peterson being a transphobic asshole really isn't surprising given the anti-LGBT+ history of psychology and psychiatry and his hardon for Jungian and Freudian psychoanalysis.

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MisterPengy
02/03/23 10:14:41 AM
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Does any one else view this as Trump trying really hard to be relevant again? It seems obvious that he's getting the nomination for 2024, and he's just being grossly outlandish as if to say, "See? I'm going to do this extreme thing! The other guy won't go this far!"

It's pretty horrific that people's lives are literally being used as political ammo. Not that it's a new thing.

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Questionmarktarius
02/03/23 10:20:49 AM
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The actual answer is just end sex/gender discrimination entirely.
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the_pika
02/03/23 10:21:12 AM
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MisterPengy posted...
Does any one else view this as Trump trying really hard to be relevant again? It seems obvious that he's getting the nomination for 2024, and he's just being grossly outlandish as if to say, "See? I'm going to do this extreme thing! The other guy won't go this far!"

It's pretty horrific that people's lives are literally being used as political ammo. Not that it's a new thing.

it is his formula.

he tried to outlaw being Hispanic. Then he tried to outlaw being Muslim. Now he is trying to outlaw being trans.

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Giant_Aspirin
02/03/23 10:23:44 AM
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does anyone have the actual video of Trump talking, instead of a twitter account's recap? i'm curious to hear exactly what he said

edit: found it https://twitter.com/michaeljknowles/status/1620914228948504576

he's not calling to ban trans people, or "trans ideology" (whatever that means). but he is saying he wants to put an end to gender-affirming care for minors.

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wackyteen
02/03/23 10:25:13 AM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
does anyone have the actual video of Trump talking, instead of a twitter account's recap? i'm curious to hear exactly what he said
https://twitter.com/Esqueer_/status/1620757034080821248

though idk why you'd want to listen to the man speak.

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ThisIsAKnoife
02/03/23 10:26:35 AM
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Idk whats worse - that Donald Trump said this or that he doesnt actually have his own opinion on this matter (or any matter really) and is just parroting it to appease the right. Probably the latter because Repuglicans made it a point for him to latch onto in the first place.

Hes a genuine psychopath. He doesnt care who has to die as long as it gets him fame and power.

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Giant_Aspirin
02/03/23 10:26:47 AM
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wackyteen posted...
though idk why you'd want to listen to the man speak.

i want to know exactly what was said so i can be angry at the correct thing

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MC_BatCommander
02/03/23 10:28:31 AM
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This is just the beginning, they'll expand it to everyone else under the LGBTQ group eventually. Don't let them get this inch

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wackyteen
02/03/23 10:29:01 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Eventually it won't even be safe for me.

A straight, white male who just happens to also not be conservative

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Shadow_Don
02/03/23 10:30:50 AM
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I wonder if Joe Rogan will address the fact that these fuckers have been straight up lying to him for years when they said they were just concerned about the integrity of women's sports.

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UnfairRepresent
02/03/23 10:32:21 AM
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You expect accountability from Joe Rogan?

lol

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