Board 8 > Super Smash Bros. Mafia - Topic 2: Everyone Is Here (For Now)

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PeaceFrog
05/21/23 8:40:30 AM
#51:


Yeah I'm not trying to be a dick, man, I just don't understand the purpose of bragging about the not claiming part. Felt like a stretch as far as its relevance here.

I liked Marth's "clearing the air" post. It came across as sincere. But i can see that coming from scum, too.

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SirChris
05/21/23 8:41:43 AM
#52:


Well I glanced at the town game linked and sure maybe it is tomfoolery but marth feels similar (because he isn't polarized) but much more awkward here. Last game I looked day 1 and he was being highly manipulative of fights between town members tbh

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PeaceFrog
05/21/23 8:42:29 AM
#53:


htaeD posted...
Not top, but he did call you town
'because'

Which does have big shades of him calling Lopen town last time.
Though I feel like you would prevent Marth from making a list like that to begin with
I'm not sure what's going on with your quoting in this post.

Let's not forget that Marth was making those lists even after chris replaced in last game.

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htaeD
05/21/23 8:43:40 AM
#54:


Oh that was just me saying the word 'because' is the only reason he gave for calling Chris town at first.

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SirChris
05/21/23 8:43:41 AM
#55:


Also peaf I will let you decide

Do you want me killed n1 or do you want to play with me more

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PeaceFrog
05/21/23 8:43:57 AM
#56:


SirChris posted...
Last game I looked day 1 and he was being highly manipulative of fights between town members tbh
Hence him asking me out of the blue yesterday "How do you feel about plum" and not following it up at all seems to rhyme with that strategy last game

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SirChris
05/21/23 8:44:38 AM
#57:


PeaceFrog posted...
Hence him asking me out of the blue yesterday "How do you feel about plum" and not following it up at all seems to rhyme with that strategy last game
Nah he was making commentary and stuff and egging it on. Him asking your opinions on slots isn't that imo

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SirChris
05/21/23 8:45:30 AM
#58:


The most mislynched person in history is the deep wolf the previous game

But you can solve in Marth scum worlds and see if that world view makes sense

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PeaceFrog
05/21/23 8:46:28 AM
#59:


SirChris posted...
Also peaf I will let you decide

Do you want me killed n1 or do you want to play with me more
I'm not advocating for your lynch today. I don't have much of a read on you and don't think I'm skilled enough to get a good vibe of you regardless. Last game i entertained your claim despite knowing death's flip and my own role 100%. I didn't have any good interpretation of that and it's something i was pretty harsh on myself for afterwards.

So if scum wants to kill you n1 because they're afraid of you, then they can do that. I have no input there, thank you.

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PeaceFrog
05/21/23 8:47:48 AM
#60:


SirChris posted...
The most mislynched person in history is the deep wolf the previous game

But you can solve in Marth scum worlds and see if that world view makes sense
Maybe it's because I'm barely awake but this post reads like gibberish to me. Please repeat in simple words, for i am simple minded

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SirChris
05/21/23 8:51:27 AM
#61:


PeaceFrog posted...
Maybe it's because I'm barely awake but this post reads like gibberish to me. Please repeat in simple words, for i am simple minded

Sorry.

Basically a common trend in mafia sites is hyper paranoia over a scum who won the previous game day 1 of the next game. I think things being pointed at about marth are Marth things rather than scum marth things but a lot of people just got burned so it is best to maybe reflect on it rather than being hasty.


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PeaceFrog
05/21/23 8:55:50 AM
#62:


That did cross my mind last night. Could be an over correction!
But I'm not going to not lynch him just because of that. If he is town then we can conclude that. But it would be silly to avoid the lynch just to avoid overcorrecting.

I probably won't be around at day end today. I'd really like for some action to happen before we get there.

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SirChris
05/21/23 8:57:13 AM
#63:


PeaceFrog posted...
That did cross my mind last night. Could be an over correction!
But I'm not going to not lynch him just because of that. If he is town then we can conclude that. But it would be silly to avoid the lynch just to avoid overcorrecting.

I probably won't be around at day end today. I'd really like for some action to happen before we get there.

Solving in a scum Marth world who looks worst and best to you?

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htaeD
05/21/23 8:58:17 AM
#64:


To help Ulti I did look at Plum first and got rewarded with an "I dont feel good" justification for his absence. Which I would be a dick to write off as lies (so I wont). Other than that his big contributions seem to be questioning me a bit and sorta counterattacking Marth who attacked him first. Also calling Red bad.

I do find Marths interest in Plum ...urhm.. interesting
Since he doesnt seem to want to do anything about it himself despite Plum being one of his only scumreads. Yeah he has his vote on Peaf first, but the only player he asked for input from on the subject of Plum.. was Peaf himself.

Dont worry tho, not every data strain will (can) somehow circle back to Marth. ]

More importantly, Plum doesnt look like scum to me.

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SirChris
05/21/23 9:03:00 AM
#65:


So part of my marth is town thought process is I am looking at the flow of the game around them and i point to three people in particular.

The first is mzero. I liked how mzero did research into things and it matches their zeal from last game.

I see red's defense, I check the other game, and I can sew what he sees in terms of difference even of the exact point was a mistaken memory. The impression is different.

The third is sbell who feels really comfy for me so far not liking the lynch.

So yes every read can be wrong but the people who I am comfortable with are also defending Marth for what I think are the right reasons.

This can be wrong, I am not perfect, but I would rather solve each part of the chain rather than just look at marth.

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SirChris
05/21/23 9:07:32 AM
#66:


Part of my Lea vote is it is such a smooth thing for scum to vote for someone for town reading them easily. It fits my internal report of lea's scum game as being very, very good.

It doesn't have to be true but lea hasn't followed up much since so I don't have much to re evaluate on atm

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Obellisk
05/21/23 9:11:17 AM
#67:


Reading back on Page 1 and 2 of Topic 1.

Things I liked: Wallz. I initially went in with an ISO of Wallz with the intent of finding reason for him to be scum. Of course then i had to reevaluate almost immediately when i was reminded he is on the road for most of Day 1. So inactive scum read is out the window. Then there was the whole name interaction with Lea and i felt like that was just a waste of time but it was still all on page 1 so again, let it slide. Wallz further posting and discussion with Crescent and Plum gave me very good feels and I have moved Wallz squarely into my town pile.

Things i disliked; Lea. I did not like her first post to Wallz wishing he was going to be here for day 1. It felt fake (to me). The kind of comment scum makes to appear to care about the game state.

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SirChris
05/21/23 9:13:26 AM
#68:


Obellisk posted...
Reading back on Page 1 and 2 of Topic 1.

Things I liked: Wallz. I initially went in with an ISO of Wallz with the intent of finding reason for him to be scum. Of course then i had to reevaluate almost immediately when i was reminded he is on the road for most of Day 1. So inactive scum read is out the window. Then there was the whole name interaction with Lea and i felt like that was just a waste of time but it was still all on page 1 so again, let it slide. Wallz further posting and discussion with Crescent and Plum gave me very good feels and I have moved Wallz squarely into my town pile.

Things i disliked; Lea. I did not like her first post to Wallz wishing he was going to be here for day 1. It felt fake (to me). The kind of comment scum makes to appear to care about the game state.
Can you quote the Lea post

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htaeD
05/21/23 9:14:24 AM
#69:


I was about the say the same thing about Wallz and also the Lea comment.
But you put it in better words than I could.

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htaeD
05/21/23 9:14:44 AM
#70:


Lmao I wish you weren't travelling for most of day one

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Obellisk
05/21/23 9:18:30 AM
#71:


and the lmao was just in response to the give peaf a chance comment

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Obellisk
05/21/23 9:18:57 AM
#72:


And good things usually occur when death and I are riding the same wave....

...ok sometimes occur

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htaeD
05/21/23 9:19:13 AM
#73:


The lmao is at least deserved, it was a good pun

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SirChris
05/21/23 9:19:54 AM
#74:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


SirChris posted...
Can you quote the posts you found town from me and lea, marth

Lea's reaction to the list versus mine

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htaeD
05/21/23 9:22:55 AM
#75:


It is kinda funny to hear lea saying she hasnt made an effort to do better this game.

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SirChris
05/21/23 9:22:59 AM
#76:


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Actually kind of reminds me of me and lea in star trek

I would not clear marth if lea is scum here tbh

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MZero
05/21/23 9:23:19 AM
#77:


SirChris posted...
So part of my marth is town thought process is I am looking at the flow of the game around them and i point to three people in particular.

The first is mzero. I liked how mzero did research into things and it matches their zeal from last game.

I see red's defense, I check the other game, and I can sew what he sees in terms of difference even of the exact point was a mistaken memory. The impression is different.

The third is sbell who feels really comfy for me so far not liking the lynch.

So yes every read can be wrong but the people who I am comfortable with are also defending Marth for what I think are the right reasons.

This can be wrong, I am not perfect, but I would rather solve each part of the chain rather than just look at marth.

random question because you did this last game but is there a reason you refer to me as they/their

not that I have a problem with it I'm just curious!

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PeaceFrog
05/21/23 9:23:26 AM
#78:


htaeD posted...
The lmao is at least deserved, it was a good pun
Yeah it was.

I think wallz' pun game tends to have higher highs when he's scum but i remember some good ones from the last town game too.


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SirChris
05/21/23 9:25:04 AM
#79:


MZero posted...
random question because you did this last game but is there a reason you refer to me as they/their

not that I have a problem with it I'm just curious!

None at all I just have gotten more used to gender neutral pronouns as I play with a lot of non binary people and boy do I forget sometimes.

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SirChris
05/21/23 9:27:00 AM
#81:


I mean if you are scum here it is kind of goated that I refused to lynch you day 1 there but am sussing you here

But also I was busy murdering leafia 5 minutes into the day

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SirChris
05/21/23 9:28:01 AM
#83:


Let's real time bestie

What would you do if marth flipped town? Who looks suspicious in that world?

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Obellisk
05/21/23 9:29:04 AM
#84:


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In rereading that post with that context I see what you mean. Maybe I just had intent on finding someone suspicious and misread you there.

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htaeD
05/21/23 9:29:33 AM
#85:


Was the game Mzero looked up a different game than the one Marth pointed us at?

I suppose you are at least right about Wallz being an entertaining player to have

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SirChris
05/21/23 9:30:00 AM
#86:


htaeD posted...
Was the game Mzero looked up a different game than the one Marth pointed us at?

I suppose you are at least right about Wallz being an entertaining player to have
Yes mzero went to a b8 game

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htaeD
05/21/23 9:31:03 AM
#87:


Ok then yeah thats some good effort

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PeaceFrog
05/21/23 9:31:28 AM
#88:


SirChris posted...
Solving in a scum Marth world who looks worst and best to you?
In a scum Marth world, i think you and red look worse. Players who have not made any comment on him whatsoever - I don't know who these are right now but it would be something I go back and evaluate post-flip - look especially bad to me.

I had in my notes that Lea would look better, so your comment about this made me /thinkingemoji.

I think plum looks good from the aforementioned "scummarth asks town about town to distract and cause fights" thing.

If Marth is town then the plum read reverts back to nil. I haven't really considered other players beyond that, for this lens.

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SirChris
05/21/23 9:33:02 AM
#90:


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Okay I was looking for who you think looks suspicious lol

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PeaceFrog
05/21/23 9:34:10 AM
#91:


Actually yeah red looks bad either way.
Scum defending scum or scum pocketing town
Ez next

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htaeD
05/21/23 9:34:35 AM
#92:


red13n posted...
If Marth starts playing the slightest bit dumb insta lynch.


Marth didn't really scumwall last game what are we hating here exactly.


Okay this comes across to me like a radical shift
Red, what is a 'dumb Marth' to you?

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PeaceFrog
05/21/23 9:37:30 AM
#93:


Obellisk posted...
And good things usually occur when death and I are riding the same wave....

...ok sometimes occur
All i remember is him burying you at the last minute of the day and then getting recruited to fill your void

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htaeD
05/21/23 9:39:29 AM
#95:


And in general I do agree that yes Red is misrepresenting what Marth was like in the last game.
Cant tell if thats intentional though because Red I dont think ever talked about Marth in dead chat last game.

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SirChris
05/21/23 9:40:01 AM
#96:


PeaceFrog posted...
Actually yeah red looks bad either way.
Scum defending scum or scum pocketing town
Ez next
Hmm

Top ten anime betrayals

##unvote:
##vote: red13n

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htaeD
05/21/23 9:40:09 AM
#97:


PeaceFrog posted...

All i remember is him burying you at the last minute of the day and then getting recruited to fill your void

Good times

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SirChris
05/21/23 9:41:14 AM
#98:


I glanced through red's content and I am not enthused

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masterplum
05/21/23 9:47:47 AM
#100:


SirChris posted...
Hmm

Top ten anime betrayals

##unvote:
##vote: red13n

Didnt you argue last night this was a town red thing to do because scum red would know not to do it

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