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DipDipDiver
06/02/23 1:09:49 PM
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I don't understand why she always chooses to focus on the hate instead all the love she gets. It just seems silly in the midst of all her success and all the people constantly praising her that she would care about what trolls say
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MedeaLysistrata
06/02/23 1:11:21 PM
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Lizzo is proof you can do very little harm and people will still shit on you

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PesticideDream
06/02/23 1:12:40 PM
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She's so fucking gross
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voldothegr8
06/02/23 1:12:48 PM
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Y'all need to lay off Lizzo, she already got enough on her plate.

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ShineboxPhil
06/02/23 1:12:49 PM
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VFalcone posted...
I say this with a heavy heart that with the tons of abuse the internet pounds her with, she should get off the 'gram, and without an ounce of shame. It would be a huge weight lifted off her shoulders.

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TaylorHeinicke
06/02/23 1:13:03 PM
#59:


why not just quit the internet

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masterpug53
06/02/23 1:18:41 PM
#61:


DipDipDiver posted...
I don't understand why she always chooses to focus on the hate instead all the love she gets. It just seems silly in the midst of all her success and all the people constantly praising her that she would care about what trolls say

Unless you are 100% free of self-doubt, it's human nature to give hate / criticism far more weight than love / praise. This is compounded greatly when you achieve any level of fame as an artist / entertainer, because you're making yourself that much more vulnerable by putting your heart and soul on the line through your work.

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NecroFoul99
06/02/23 1:19:24 PM
#62:


lolife67 posted...
This is a really bad take and I'm always surprised when someone says it like they've stated some genius response. "Bad stuff happens, so you shouldn't complain and just accept it."
Its not a bad take. Its reality. And complain all you want, ask me for pity tooyou may get some, but I really dont feel it much. Were all in the mud together.

Go ahead and get caught up with the, people shouldnt and Ill watch you walk in circles for the rest of your life.

You dont have to accept shitty people, you just have to accept that you have no control over shitty people who exist whether you like it or not.

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lolife67
06/02/23 1:22:13 PM
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NecroFoul99 posted...
Its not a bad take.
Yes, it is.

NecroFoul99 posted...
Its reality
So was widespread racism. According to you, that should've just been ignored and black people should have just "dealt with it because it's reality." But that'd be stupid, right? Same thing here.

NecroFoul99 posted...
You dont have to accept s***ty people, you just have to accept that you have no control over s***ty people who exist whether you like it or not
Yeah, you really have no clue what's being argued or said here, do you?
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NoxObscuras
06/02/23 1:22:54 PM
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DipDipDiver posted...
I don't understand why she always chooses to focus on the hate instead all the love she gets. It just seems silly in the midst of all her success and all the people constantly praising her that she would care about what trolls say
Because she had body dysmorphia, which meant she hyper fixated on her own flaws. So people shitting on her just adds fuel to that fire.

I'm really not sure why people feel the need to be so toxic towards her. Yes, she's fat. She's already aware of that, so there's no need to constantly berate her for it. "If she doesn't like it, she should just stop being fat." If it were that simple, we wouldn't have more than half of the country being overweight.

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lolife67
06/02/23 1:23:51 PM
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Lol exactly. It comes off as someone who actually doesn't understand human behavior at all in reality and hasn't interacted with people like a normal person.
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I4NRulez
06/02/23 1:25:46 PM
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You'd think they were teenagers with some of the edgy cringey shit they post man.

but in reality they are probably dudes in their 30s and 40s

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VirtuousWrath
06/02/23 1:27:58 PM
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It's crazy she hasn't hired like a dedicated nutritionist or chef to help her lose weight and keep an exercise plan.

I mean, she doesn't have to be stick thin or anything but at some point, it's just about health.

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codey
06/02/23 1:28:16 PM
#70:


TonyKojima posted...
Honestly she doesn't need to wear skin tight clothing, I mean its very naive to think people won't make fun of her. No its not right and it shouldn't happen but people are assholes so why give them ammo? Also its not "body shaming" to point out obesity. Acting like shes not or that its "beautiful" is harmful to everyone involved. She absolutely should not be made fun of because of her weight. But her weight also cannot be ignored...She has made it part of her image which I disasgree with. I hope she does find peace she doesn't deserve to be ridiculed.

It absolutely is if there's no reason to talk about her weight. I can make a topic right now about her what I think about her music and ask what CE's opinion on it is, and 90% of the posts in it are going to be about her weight.

Now, I can make the exact same topic about Biggie, who is quite literally named so because he was fat, and no one's going to point out that he was obese because in a topic about his art it doesnt matter how much he weighed. If you point it out in that context, you're only doing so to be an asshole.

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NecroFoul99
06/02/23 1:29:02 PM
#71:


Okay. You guys win. When you figure out how to fix the internet, let me know and Ill help however I can.

Im the meantime, I suggest taking a peek at the comments on Yahoo news. Only to impress upon you all how overwhelming and staggering the quantity of vile and hateful people who also have an opinion they wish to share all surf the web. Thats just one tiny samplingand theyre legion.

My position is this, one last time, just in casewe will never stop the tide by saying, we shouldnt have to live this way.

I mean just look at thisyall arent being mean and cruel, but you are going full tilt with the absolute moron stuff. My 40 years of adulthood has taught me nothing, right? Im just a moron? Not a single agreeable thought?

Oh well, whatever.

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ironman2009
06/02/23 1:30:16 PM
#72:


codey posted...
It absolutely is if there's no reason to talk about her weight. I can make a topic right now about her what I think about her music and ask what CE's opinion on it is, and 90% of the posts in it are going to be about her weight.

Now, I can make the exact same topic about Biggie, who is quite literally named so because he was fat, and no one's going to point out that he was obese because in a topic about his art it doesnt matter how much he weighed. If you point it out in that context, you're only doing so to be an asshole.

Biggie got his name from a movie

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ShineboxPhil
06/02/23 1:31:17 PM
#73:


VirtuousWrath posted...
It's crazy she hasn't hired like a dedicated nutritionist or chef to help her lose weight and keep an exercise plan.

I mean, she doesn't have to be stick thin or anything but at some point, it's just about health.

You can spend over $100k on a nutritionist/person trainers but if you have no discipline to follow whatever meal plan or workout, you might as well throw that cash in a fire

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Ratchetrockon
06/02/23 1:31:25 PM
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damn this thread just makes wish more people were supportive of the bullying of bigot supportive vtubers during the hogwarts legacy era.

i see vtubers same way you guys see lizzo (not fat but people that deserve to be bullied)

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I4NRulez
06/02/23 1:31:50 PM
#75:


VirtuousWrath posted...
It's crazy she hasn't hired like a dedicated nutritionist or chef to help her lose weight and keep an exercise plan.

I mean, she doesn't have to be stick thin or anything but at some point, it's just about health.

I mean who cares? I dont recall her ever saying everyone should be fat she just doesn't want to get constantly bullied about her weight. Like people can be overweight and happy and still want to lose weight.

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AirFresh
06/02/23 1:32:26 PM
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She really could hit the gym or find some kind of exercise program that works for her, and fix her diet. Not body-shaming, she is clearly a very intellegent human who is very talented and tries to spread good vibes with her music. There's something mental going on with her unfortunately, I'm not saying this out of shame but out of concern for a fellow creative human being.

That being said yeah I can understand WITH her fame, the amount of harassment she gets, especially with the clear racisim, that is way harder to pull off than it is to say. If I saw her I'd offer to go on a hike or something. She needs positivity, really.

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codey
06/02/23 1:32:32 PM
#77:


ironman2009 posted...
Biggie got his name from a movie

You got me there. Here's a more obvious one: Fat Joe.

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ShineboxPhil
06/02/23 1:32:48 PM
#78:


ironman2009 posted...
Biggie got his name from a movie

Biggie also never twerked his ass in a thong.

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masterpug53
06/02/23 1:34:13 PM
#79:


NecroFoul99 posted...
Okay. You guys win. When you figure out how to fix the internet, let me know and Ill help however I can.

Step #1: don't tacitly endorse the Internet's collective awful behavior with a cliched 'that's just the way the world works' attitude.

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CyborgSage00x0
06/02/23 1:35:34 PM
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im_not_13 posted...
Oh no...anyway.jpeg
This.

She also makes money hand over fist, and is young enough that she should no better than reading social media commentary about herself. Like, I'll take her "problems".

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AirFresh
06/02/23 1:35:40 PM
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Wasn't Biggie shot to death? Why are you bringing him up, it's unrelated.

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VirtuousWrath
06/02/23 1:35:53 PM
#83:


ShineboxPhil posted...
Biggie also never twerked his ass in a thong.
Was gonna say, Lizzo kinda makes it a point that she's all that in terms of women which is why I think the negative responses are so strong

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AirFresh
06/02/23 1:36:56 PM
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I think Lizzo wants to use her fame to spread the feeling that you should feel comfortable in your own skin above all else

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codey
06/02/23 1:36:56 PM
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ShineboxPhil posted...
Biggie also never twerked his ass in a thong.

Who cares? If they're both obese then they're both unhealthy, and everyone that's quick to point out Lizzo is obese "because it's unhealthy to be so" should be just as quick to say it about Biggie. Or their mom, sister, brother, grandma, friend, acquaintance and everyone else they come across that might be overweight. Because if you're only saying it about Lizzo, it's not about being healthy, it's about being an asshole.

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Tenlaar
06/02/23 1:38:34 PM
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NecroFoul99 posted...
Okay. You guys win. When you figure out how to fix the internet, let me know and Ill help however I can.
You can start with not responding to topics like this with thats the way it is so shut up and accept it.
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codey
06/02/23 1:39:19 PM
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AirFresh posted...
Wasn't Biggie shot to death? Why are you bringing him up, it's unrelated.

He was fat. If people were being honest about calling Lizzo out because it's unhealthy, they'd do so for all the other overweight artists in the world too. A topic about Biggie though is going to have people discussing his music whereas a Lizzo topic will have someone post "SHES FAT" within the first three posts.

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R_Jackal
06/02/23 1:39:31 PM
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I can kind of understand being upset/angry with how Lizzo portrays herself for foolish people. The kind that hate watch shows or buy games just to complain.

Personally I have no problems with her looks, or her. I'm not interested in her music particularly so I don't pay her any mind. I don't wish her ill either though, she should be allowed to work without a torrent of hate. I just don't care for her music, though it doesn't seem bad on a technical level.

She's a celebrity that offers a product and presents it in a specific way. If you don't mind it you aren't obligated to partake in the product.

Everyone hates that customer, right up until they become one. This is the equivalent of going in to Best Buy and screaming at the staff because they don't sell boats. Grow up, and move on. Imagine how fun your workplace would be if every disgruntled customer targeted you to take out their frustrations on. At some point, "ignore it" is no longer an option. You can't un-hear or un-see those comments you come across.
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NecroFoul99
06/02/23 1:39:42 PM
#90:


masterpug53 posted...
Step #1: don't tacitly endorse the Internet's collective awful behavior with a cliched 'that's just the way the world works' attitude.
Its NOT an endorsement to accept that theres a tide of hate that cannot be stopped. And like it or not, thats exactly how the world works.

School shootings, random violence, slavery truly still exists, all this stufffucking reality.

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Solo_Wing
06/02/23 1:40:16 PM
#91:


DnDer posted...
As a performer in 2023, she needs Twitter. We'll, socmed of some kind, and... somehow... Twitter is still one of the furthest-reaching platforms available.

Terrestrial radio station airplay and contests, or the local posters and TV commercials aren't enough to fill venues like it used to.

Kind of shitty, but that's the game these days.
Then she should grow some thicker skin.. I mean, a methaporical one, since, y'know.

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CyborgSage00x0
06/02/23 1:40:43 PM
#92:


codey posted...
Who cares? If they're both obese then they're both unhealthy, and everyone that's quick to point out Lizzo is obese "because it's unhealthy to be so" should be just as quick to say it about Biggie. Or their mom, sister, brother, grandma, friend, acquaintance and everyone else they come across. Because if you're only saying it about Lizzo, it's not about being healthy, it's about being an asshole.
That's true on paper. The difference, and KEY difference, is Biggie didn't make his weight apart of his identity. Lizzo does, it's basically her most known aspect of her identity. It's a certainty that the vitriol towards her would be far less if this was not the case.

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TonyKojima
06/02/23 1:40:45 PM
#93:


codey posted...
It absolutely is if there's no reason to talk about her weight. I can make a topic right now about her what I think about her music and ask what CE's opinion on it is, and 90% of the posts in it are going to be about her weight.

Now, I can make the exact same topic about Biggie, who is quite literally named so because he was fat, and no one's going to point out that he was obese because in a topic about his art it doesnt matter how much he weighed. If you point it out in that context, you're only doing so to be an asshole.
Thats the thing, she makes her weight a part of her overall image.

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SgtBash
06/02/23 1:40:55 PM
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I remember she caught some flak for using an ableist slur in one of her songs and had to change the lyric.

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ShineboxPhil
06/02/23 1:41:20 PM
#95:


Solo_Wing posted...
Then she should grow some thicker skin.. I mean, a methaporical one, since, y'know.



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masterpug53
06/02/23 1:42:35 PM
#96:


NecroFoul99 posted...
Its NOT an endorsement to accept that theres a tide of hate that cannot be stopped.

Yes, actually, it is. That's why the 'ten nazis sitting at a table' saying exists.


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codey
06/02/23 1:42:37 PM
#97:


CyborgSage00x0 posted...
That's true on paper. The difference, and KEY difference, is Biggie didn't make his weight apart of his identity. Lizzo does, it's basically her most known aspect of her identity. It's a certainty that the vitriol towards her would be far less if this was not the case.

I counter with Fat Joe. You try telling me being obese isn't part of Fat fucking Joe's image, and no one is going into a topic about his discography discussing when they think he'll have a heart attack because he's obese.

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CyborgSage00x0
06/02/23 1:42:58 PM
#98:


SgtBash posted...
I remember she caught some flak for using an ableist slur in one of her songs and had to change the lyric.
Spaz, which was bizarre, given how mundane that word is/has become in modern parlance. But, that will happen if you play too hard into certain culture warrior aspects.

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AirFresh
06/02/23 1:44:14 PM
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Lizzo uses her fame to try to spread good cheer and for people to feel good about themselves. It's clearly a mental thing, and the negative comments do not help. And because she is talented and has money, people think it's just okay to completely get on her and say the nastiest things. From my perspective I see someone who is trying to help people who feel similar and be a champion but of course society shuns anything that is not perfection. I am not even a fan of her music or her at all, but I can see that. For some reason if you have money you have no right to be a human being in society, when clearly her issue is not laziness but mental. Have compassion for fellow human beings instead of sitting on a throne of negativity to make yourself feel better

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HBOSS
06/02/23 1:45:06 PM
#101:


Her songs reflect what shes been through when she made her music but this, the online abuse has pushed her beyond anybodys tolerance of such negativity.

If she gets through all this online hate, i wonder if the hate she received would inspire her to compose more music about it. The art of being able to reflect on moments in life and use music to be a creative outlet and commercial hit if she could overcome the negativity. She has the musical presence for it...right?

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